the reports are very sketchy, but what are the reports, elle?> well, i've heard everything from another $5 million to as much as $7 million or $8 million. >> back to mary margaret, radaron-line.com, an alleged $9 million not including the current $4 million payoff, allegedly. that's getting close to $15 million. what does she do with all her money, mary margaret? >> that's a really funny topic of discussion. as we know she lives a quiet ranch life with her horses and had a wonderful home michael has visited her in beverly hills, so we think she has a fat bank account right now. >> elle, isn't it true that she spends about $25,000 a month on horses? >> well, yes. debbie rowe breeds horses and she's told people that she is on an allowance, she has i guess a fixed income and she does have concerns about whether or not she is financially secure. >> i guess you're referring to the nearly 10 to $15 million as a fixed income? >> right, nancy. >> okay. $25,000 a month on horses. elle, does she ever sell any of the horses or does she just raise them? >>

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>>ell, i don't want to... by statg lessons i don't want to suest that these should be applied to t iraq situation. if y think so, do it. but these are lsons thatapply in general to security. >> rose: a right. >> the first lson is empathize with your oppont. now i don use the word "empathyas synonymou with symphy. i use the word empay as understand your opnent. we did not understan the north vietmese. they didn'understand us. with one exception. we really didn't unrstand uschev. e one exception was toy thompson criticaloment in a sense prevented the nuclear war. >> rose: heaid to presidt kennedy... >>e said to mr. knedy, you'rerong, presidentennedy. present kennedy, we had a soft ssage from kruschev that we coul accept. we have a tough messa that we couldn't accept. the tough mesge had been publicized before we received it. e soft message was sent in secret. we wante to.... >> rose: but t soft message ca before the tough message. >> well, it's a littl uncertain. a little uncertain. you're right, it did but it's

>>ell, our upgrade w on a short-rm basis because, indeed, en the federal reserv uses qntitative easing to get 0% wereate, when the treasur, fdicnd feral reserve provide bas guarantees for losses. en they change the accounting rules so ey don't ve to take loes on mark to market,ou can create any earnis power you want. but for long-term call that the banks are going to have much les leverage thanthey had before. they are going to be more highly rulated than they were bore. when tre raitt --nterest rate goes to their natal level, they run natura now, itill change the dynamic of the interest rate mains in sh a way tha now all tee banks will bery profitable. so aing to that an exslended recessionary conditi and i thinthat the banks still have a long way to go before they are trauly healthy. >>ow you told me that your ast allocations two-thirds cash, and one-third sck. so y are putting se of your clientoney into stocks. i ow you can't talk about specifics t what sectors do you fin attractive rit now in >> yes, this isur equity ogram. we are paid to go out and take risk for invtors. ck in jan

this fully respects and honors the pigness of the pig. >> reporter: steve ells is a fast food mogul whoares about the pigness of the pig. chipotle buys no pork from factory farms, why? >> well, first of all, you can breathe here and it smells great. you can't breathe in a confinement operation. the odor is horrific. and you can see the terror in the pigs' eyes. 100% of the chickens that we served are served vegetarian diet. and not given antibiotics. and, most of our beef now, comes from the naturally raise protocol. >> reporter: this isn't cheap for you. >> it's not. chipotle has higher food costs than our competitors. >> reporter: much higher, right? >> a little big higher, but we have a business model that allows us to invest in high quality food. and it's great because obviously this higher quality food tastes better, which brings people back. >> reporter: it's not clear whether you can taste social responsibility, but you can taste a good burrito. so, whether or not you can taste a happy pig, this is a happy meal. >> delicious. >> reporter: yeah. >> reporter: john berman, abc news,

. >> straight out to elle.hole kit and caboodle are showing up in court monday regarding guardianship. is debbie rowe going to? >> debbie rowe hasn't filed anything about her intentions. she said she plans to fight for her kids. >> to you, lewis, a state attorney joining us from new york, what will happen on monday? >> well, it's fair to say the judge is going to follow the recommendation of the will unless there's evidence to do otherwise. a will appoints kathrine jackson as the guardian. >> to you carman st. george, going into the home is direct opposition to what he wanted to keep his children away from his father that beat him. >> i think, nancy, it's got to be a consideration of the court. it's the letter of intention that michael jackson wrote. this was a will. this wasn't something he just mentioned to somebody. he wrote it down. he intention nally left his father out of the will. he didn't say my mother and father. i think that has to be considered by the courts. these are minor children going to an 80-

early her life she left school to work at "elle" magazine's photography laboratory in paris. a chance meeting with dustin offman at the cannes film festival in 1975 led to his behind the scenes work on his film "all the president's men." many films followed including "close encounters of the third kind" and "the english patient." in her 30-year career, she has photographed everyone from henry kiss sdwror natalie partman to the dalai lama. this diversity in subject is to capture the essence of her subject. here's a look and listen to four of her friends who've also been the subject over the years. >> this is a very unusual photograph for me to take because i am looking in the camera. i really do hate having a still picture taken but i love digit and that is a... this picture is a reflection of our friendship. in august of 2001 we did a production of "the seagull in central park." it was a deliriously happy summer, clearly reflected in this picture. it was the last innocent summer because the a month later was september of 2001. so for me it captures an innocent this is sopd so

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who is going to step rward to ell the world about the horrors gng on in places ke chechn? abcews, in moscow. >> cticism of israel in gaza s so far come frohuman rights orgizations. the israe government has shrugged the critici of. now soldiers who took part in the mission of claimed the army was guiy of abuses, using palestian civians as human shields. these could aunt to war crimes. >> the israi army had aeady answer to accusation of war crimesin gaza. th was palestinian opaganda. now, claims of abuse are being made by israi soldis. it was poli to do this to gaza, and since breakg the since, they describe rule of engagement that didnot stinish between cbatants and civians. >> evything you are seeing now is t result of a deliberate is real policy of destruction, according to brking the silence. the key alletion is that the abus were systematic and not the result oa few bad apples. above all, orders were given to event israeli casuales were ever the cost in palestinian life. one soldier statement said "the minute we got to our startg line, weegan to fire at suspect places.

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>>ell, she kind of gave you an a la ct menuf why. she was tid of the game, you could pick that she s tter for alaska, you could pick she was going to efft change presumably at e national level outside of government. think the thing that confused so manyof her listeneri she didn't give a reason. shthrew all the cards up in the air and said pick yo reason. >> you wroten the article abouthe senior staff in the mccain cpaign. i'll quote the article, "they all know if their candidate had won th presidency, the vice presidency would be in the has of a woman who lacked t knowlee, aptitude an temperament fothe job." this was, of course, one among many searing paragraphin there. are we confident that the release of your artie and the ree of those internal e-mails with nicole walle, were these all coincidences of timing? or is it possible this sequence st week was interrelated and not just sequential? >> oh, i think it'all coincidence. i think my article was probably one of the furthest ings from govern palin mind when she made her remks. and

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>> ell, if the vicpresident totold theia not to inform the congngress, ashey're required to by lawaw, then he's telli them break the aw. >> isis th the tipof the iceberg, senator? >>ell, it may well be we do know of course,e, from th reports, the published reports, and when ththisrogram was diovered or rerted to ln panenetta, t cia directotor, he ordedered itimmediately stopped. especially whehen he fou out that the congress had nev been informed >> senatoror, great have you withs totonight. >> good tobe with y you, idaho. >>>> you bet. setor pat leahy, chahairman of the senaate judiciciary committ with us here on "the ed show." >>> coming up, sarah pin says e's not out of politics. y would that susurpriseny of us? she'e's raisinmoney. i toldld you tt was going to haen. >>> nenext on "e ed show," it's "psyo talk." republican lawmakekerays a publicic optiowill did kill you. ( conversati ) garth, you're up. hold on, i'm at capitalone.com pking a photo... fomyredit card. here's ononfrom mprom. ,, wt memories. how 'bouone from our golf outg? ( shouting i know, maybe onene omymy first-born

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>>ell, you know, that sp has sailed if we were in thbeginning of the year, i mighhave argued that as well. we have a lot onur plate. it'll be niceo get a n, get something doneight. health car reform is big project but wee now down the path and we have to ma it work. >> susie: wall street was encouraged thiseek by a whole batch of positive earnings reports whetheyou were talking aboutntel fromthe tech sector or goldman sachs and j.p. morgan from the banking sector, jnson & johnson, is the economy really doing bter because a few big mpanies reported strong earnings? >> yes i mean, ju think about the opposite. if big mpanies were lling, that would signal the economy was heing in the wng diction. the fact ty're making money and in someases profi are rising is an indication the recession is coming an end and 'll be out of recession, thin by latethis year. >> susie: buwhen you dig into some of the numbers like j. morgan, for example,ou see that the consur loans are still in bad shape. they ve credit card losses all a sign the consumer is still struggling financial. so what kind of recovery

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chris: in the interest of the far right and the far left and in the interest of elle television, i hope it is plausible. thank you. and that's the show, thank you for watching. see you here, next week.

but, you know, what i do think is that the country has to reform its healthcare system or elle not only else -- not else are you going to have people going through a hard time, but seeing a continuing escalation of the budget problems that can't get under control. >> you don't think there's some grain of truth to what senator demint said, this is your waterloo, you have to win it here? >> no. i think america has to win it here. >> but today america or talk radio water cooler said a distraction was underway. >> i -- >> everyone it seemed was talking about the arrest in cambridge, massachusetts, of the scholar henry louis gates at his own home. he had locked himself out and police were called when he was observed trying to get inside the front door. at his press conference last night, president obama, a friend of gates, spoke out. >> i don't know not having been there and seeing all the facts what role raced played in that, but i think it's fair to say, you were in one, any one of us would be angry. number two, that the cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was

>>ell, first of all, we are credit uons are the most highly regularited financial institutions in the ited states. >> susie: so are banks. >> actually the feral government d a toy and sai credit unions are regulat even more than the banks. second, we didn't cause any of this probl. didn't do the no-doc lns, we didn't the liar loans, stuck to our andards by and large and t chairman of the house financial services committee, barney fra, put it succinctl he said ifveryonees in the finaial servic industry condted themselves like credit unis, we wouldn't are this sittion in the first place. so ty're saying in effect, and heaid you're the dog that didn't bark, you did evything right. you we getting a few problems, but you'r the example, not the oblem. >> sieyou know ttin washington there's thi whole move afoot have w relations, new rules forthe financial system. and i knowou're posed to any new regulatn for cdit unions. tell us why. >> well,e have not said we're oosed to any new regulation for credit unions. and i wil tell you t administration, just met with officls yesterday, said that som

>>ell, that' a very tough judgment call. you kn,ometimes you forget that ty're given very, very difficult jobs too. it's sort of the. it's secret work, often the kind of stuffno one else wants to deal wit and often underintense political pressure fro the white house. somemes from congss. sometime contradictory pressure. but i don't really know. the hasn't been a cleaning of the house at c.i.a. by myeans. i think it's yone's guess as to how the c.i.a. is reall operating athis point. rose: it's a guess. you don't really know. we don'teally know. it'srue theye taken lot of recordor their track record on intelligce collections for iraq's weans and these controversial progms involving things like ierrogation, renditn. what they're uto now,hether they'll be able give obama the information he needs for ample, about iran, a tgh ca. >> i mea i think one thi you can see is they are.panetta trying to inform the hill more protly than was done during the bush ars. he was a fmer congrsman and it's somethi he cares about. >> ros i assumed

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and whenou ask them, ell, what is itou want to do? they kind of mumble and muter an but don't have an answer. and soe're very specific. what we've said we want to reform medicare, reform medicaid, stop providing $177 llion worth of subsidi to the insurance company for a medare advantage program tat offers no additional benefit to seniorsompared to regular ol medicare. we have provided very specif measures to reduce costs. nd i am if folks are sincere and sious about deficit reduion over the long-term then the can't ny that we have to ruce our health-careosts. and it'sot easy to do because it involv changin how delivery syste work. it involves changing how doctors are reimbued so thathey are rewarded for quality o care and not just quantity of care. andhat's y we've suggested takin a republican ideof something called a medpac board a commission of medical experts, doctors it and health profsionals to determine, you know, ongoing changes and continuing provement in how the edicare system works. we actually think that will help drive low

>>ell, ihink in terms of the house floor vote and the senate floorvote, we're getng a pretty go sensef that, and w will throgh tonighand the next several days. but tn what happens, the real work, and some of it will actually beginuring the august ress here in washington amg thestaff, they go into something called a conferen committee where you hammer out those differences. there are some big areas of agreement that they' come together on, thgs like requiring almost every americato have health insurance giving some discountto lower income workers who have trouble affording covage, some of those insurance market refoms that presidentbama talks abouttoday out in his campaign swing. but therere also so big areas of disagreement. i would so just mentn, dy, that of cousehe down side of going into thi august recess for those democrats is thatow that weave som specific things on paper, the other side wi start picking those apt and that becom a target for opponents of reform. so it's really gog to be a fascinating period outside of washington to seewhat kind of themes emerge. >> woodruff: than

quitl aouoo cara t for oojuly morning.fo ande'ff oreo aarrt cta sle ell. we'll have lots of sunshine today. details on the forecast in five minutes at 5:01. >> thank you, tom. >> let's go to jerry edwards and get an early look at the roadways. jerry, good morning. >> hey, good morning. as we get under way for a tuesday we're doing fine, nothing too exciting to worry about. moving along quite nicely along 395 to and across the 14th street bridge. there's the gw parkway as it passes under 395. no worries between old town alex an dry a and the merle bridge. making a trip to the wilson bridge, incident free 270 southbound lanes are open. the overnight road work northbound has been picked up. >> thank you. here's a look at four big stories that are happening today. >>> the u.s. house of representatives holds its hearing on last month's deadly metro crash today. it will focus on the progress of the investigation and safety measures implemented since the crash. the accident on metro's red line killed 9 people and injured nearly 80 others. >> the first hispanic su

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>>ell, i think the relaonship with the kds is a complex relationship. i think so of the atements that we've heard out oyou are beal, that is the cabal of the kurdistan area,ome of the statents are not helul. but i think the need to be understood in t context of an election that's coming ujust next week in the kursh regional govnment area. so i don't think we ne to get toworried about tho statements. think what we need worry about are se other tngs. r example, there's intnal boundary question. that is where doe this kdish area end and wre do these... does the rt of the country pickp? that is, where are the arab eas versus the kurdish areas. there's a u.n. procs to s up mediate this, but, you know, you're dling wh some very hard-headed ople on all sides of the equation. so it's not easy f the u.n. and i ink what thunited states needs to dos toe very active here. bumaybe not in the lead re. let's see how the can work this through. there's sothing like 14 different disputes along is line. anyone who's worked on bosnia or places like that understands how thi

>>ell, it's hd to be precise on that. own view would be in the mid-10s. >> rose: 10.5, 10.6. what abo the dollar? at's going to happen to the dollar durg all of thi well, having servedn the treasury twice i've learned e hazards of commenting that. even as a private citizen. it's ptty damn hard.. >> rose: believe... >> no, to forecast the dollar. theotically the dollar shou ween for a whole series of reasons. but, of course, it aays has to weaken agast something. so, you know, you have t say to yourself, what'she outlook r e dollar and what'she outlook for the euro and the dollar going to ween agnst the ro. i think 's very diffult to know thee theoretically th llar should weaken and not the least of rich which is the deficit outlk we face. it should have been weaker in cent months than it has been. so i.... >> rose: why hasn't it? theoretically it should ha been weaker than it has been. >> a the dollar a safe haven currency in times of fare and real seanic people move into the dollar. so it's d a safe haven halo around it. second, r current count deficit, the amoun we borrow f

think of fords as being drin by people who just loved power and they didn'think that cars were made vy ell. and we told them that if they wanted toell more fords to chy owners, they wou have to cover some of their concern and their concern were, that the cars were -- wen't really built terribly wl anderen't terribly safe. so then told them, how people decided what mad a car se or not safe. andou remember evybody says they wanto kick the tires? wellhat turned o to be a cliche that was nothe case. when weried to find out how did people decidef a car was solid not, it was by openg and chosinghe door. d you know, heari the click. that comes when the car is about the we -- built well. we did that kindf, what you might cl psycholical analysis. tavis: iet it now. i get it nowow it is tt compans would pay a hot of money forhat kind of research and infortion. it leads to the oious question for , which is whetherr not you believe today's world that kind of data research, that information is stills valuae and as accure? >> i'm sure it is. ere's nothing like understanding the consumer. i'm a big admir

. >> they are high-profile figures in the public eye -- model elle mcpherson, former deputy prime minister john press got and a publicist. it just a few of the thousands of personalities alleged by "the guardian" to have been spied on illegally by private investigators working for "the news of the world." two years ago, the royal editor, it minutes hacking into hundreds of mobile phone voice messages up will staff. he was jailed for four months. a private and mr. diller also went to prison for hacking further funds. the paper said clive goodman was the only reporter involved in hacking and acted without their knowledge. now "the guardian closed would claims the news group, part of news corp., secretly paid out more than a million pounds to settle the cases that could reveal other newsgroup journalists were involved in mobile phone hacking to get stories. >> if these allegations prove to be true, then it is something an awful lot of people who will be unhappy about and justifiably so, just as i was. also, why has it just come out? because according to "the guardian," it comes from police so

>>ell i agree.d although i agr it's vy tricky, the trickyart is, the fluence we necessaly have in afghantan because we are nding virtually evething in that count. and to thextent that it looks like we are reinforcing this sexism i not the word fort. terrible oppression of women. >> bonnie: brutality, rlly. >> absolutely. then we're complicated - inflicted in -- saudi arabia is in fact aittle bit worse. we're payinfor i in one way or the other. and at the same time respecting their o cultural trations. that's thericky part. >> it is definely the -- >> bonnie: you g to talk fast. >> our polies in afghanistan, saudi arabia, afric we've talked abouthat before. i don't thk it's wro establishing the post, that' a good thing to have somebody at the table that can present the things in a way that affect t policy decisions. i don'tee anything wrong with that but it's certainly a dicey area. it's certainly clear that putting pressure on officials, karzaiesponded when they paed that rape bill, it' still out th

>>ell there, might ha been so misuerstanding about just how tough they should and they mightave blundered into a slightly larger crisiswith israel than they want to or intendedo get into. onhether hand, ihink what the isyales a starting to wake up to is th there is really a new guy town and the last two admistrations -- both clinton andush jr. -- soou have essentially 16 years of american poli that was very, very, ver prosrael. and this n one, there's a litt bit more hands-off. we're going back, to esntially, bush one and caer, in which the israelis are basically going t find that theyon't always g their way and they d't always have a friend in the white use who is absolutely going to take everything the israelis say as face vae. >> i want tourno china real quk before we run out otime. another big week ofmeetings there. wheris this relationshi going e s. and ina? >> i thi right now what we see the administration strate is emphasizing the ecomicaspects of the relationship. over human rights, political issue and ihink they're acceuating the positive because right w with the economy being so

so many times, but its so movg for me a yo ha been so humble aboutt over the yea that it's worth ellingagain that is the hit that almost wasn't. you and marvin went back and forth over "wh's going on." y'all went backnd forth, maybe one of e best songs ever written. you went back and forth. marvin won in th end. tell me about that. what were you n hearing? what wereou missing that day, mr chairman? >> wasn't missing anying, u know. i led the record, but i was his manager and i was his record company and i w all those things and was like the prector of these young people. marvinaye was the bigst pop singer that motown had ever seen with his stature and erything. yore wonderful one, pride and joy. all the stuff that he did, "i heard it through the grapevine," marn was our superstar ngle male and i was his maner. so when he camep with this protest record, this protest recor police brutality, all of these things that were vietnam war. wait a mute, this is my sex symbol guy and all of a suen he is coming in and, you know, that's kind of rough. but i was more conceed about him as his mager. s

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>>ell, there are scientiic papers that ve madehe corlation between both of those facrs and the spread malaria. there are other scientist reports an more receny that estion, especiall the straight on correlation between global warming a the spread of malia. what actually , the pattern is theyre predictions based on science of where t disease will spread an where it will diminish, depenng on those condions. ut why degradation environnts, what's the factor there? well, any time you get that, you very often also comes wit more peopledegraded eironments lik stagnant ater, polluted ter, a greater amount of mosqtoes. >> more people going into >> the combinaon, a dangerous combination. lotsf mosquitoes and lots of people. what does science do en you try toombat thisisease? and do y think that one day, o day, it can be eeradicateed? >> it is possible tat a huge disease, very effective and problematic disease likthis could be eradicated itould take an enormous amount of effort and money. in the meantime, there a efforts on all fronts to control the mosquito a vector. also to develop new drugs t