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joining me now with the latest, nbc's ellison barber. ellison barber, the sun just coming up up there at the border where you are. tell us what you're seen. >> yeah, so we heard just a massive amount of sustained bombardments into the gaza strip until about four a. m. local time this morning. it's just after seven now. the last couple of hours, we have heard artillery fired in the direction of gaza, but nothing as consistent or a significant as what we heard up until four a. m.. what we heard in the overnight hours, that was again, by far, the heaviest and most sustain bone barn we have heard in the nearly three weeks we have been reporting along this section of the israel gaza border. according to a telegram post from hamas's military wing, they say that they engaged with israeli forces on the ground inside of gaza a little after 11 pm local time into different areas. they describe those classes as violent. but we don't have a lot of information, since israel acknowledged that they were expanding their airstrikes in gaza, and also their
joining me now with the latest, nbc's ellison barber. ellison barber, the sun just coming up up there at the border where you are. tell us what you're seen. >> yeah, so we heard just a massive amount of sustained bombardments into the gaza strip until about four a. m. local time this morning. it's just after seven now. the last couple of hours, we have heard artillery fired in the direction of gaza, but nothing as consistent or a significant as what we heard up until four a. m.. what we...
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seeking out shelter, running a little further doesn't seem to exist here at all. >> ellison barber inashkelon, thank you so much. >> reporter: there goes some more military trucks, jose. >> it's a developing situation, and we will check back as things continue to develop. ellison do stay safe, the courage you and your crew have there. >>> let's turn to nbc's raf sanchez who is in israel with details about the horrors israeli hostages have endured. he spoke to somebody who escaped. >> reporter: we're at the home of an elderly israeli couple. they were held hostage for 20 hours by hamas gunmen. i want to show you just the scene of devastation in here. you can see bullet holes all over the walls against the stairs there, more gunfire, but this is the truly extraordinary part of this story. this grandmother, she actually fed the men holding her hostage. you can see some of the cans of tuna here that she fed to them. she sang to them and the entire time she was trying to buy time for israeli forces to gather. now, her son is a policeman and at some point he came to the door to conduct nego
seeking out shelter, running a little further doesn't seem to exist here at all. >> ellison barber inashkelon, thank you so much. >> reporter: there goes some more military trucks, jose. >> it's a developing situation, and we will check back as things continue to develop. ellison do stay safe, the courage you and your crew have there. >>> let's turn to nbc's raf sanchez who is in israel with details about the horrors israeli hostages have endured. he spoke to somebody...
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at stores everywhere without a prescription. , i'm ellison barber >>> the death toll growing we've got a live report coming up >>> back here at home, president biden is set to speak on the war at the white house later today, after we learned at least 11 americans have been killed overseas what to expect from the remarks and how they could impact the war. >>> also this morning, new fallout for an arkansas doctor accused of medicaid fraud after more than 40 patients accused him of imprisoning them against their will >>> new sports could be coming to the olympic games in los angeles. >>> and fall is in full swing, but when it comes to leaves changing colors, the autumn changes aren't changes that much we'll explain why climate change could be to blame. "early today" starts right now >>> thank for being with us, i'm frances rivera >> i'm jessica haylayton israel has taken back control of its territory after the violent raid by hamas. at least 900 people have been killed there and nearly 700 have been killed in gaza and the west bank the nation has now ordered a full siege of gaza, firing a
at stores everywhere without a prescription. , i'm ellison barber >>> the death toll growing we've got a live report coming up >>> back here at home, president biden is set to speak on the war at the white house later today, after we learned at least 11 americans have been killed overseas what to expect from the remarks and how they could impact the war. >>> also this morning, new fallout for an arkansas doctor accused of medicaid fraud after more than 40 patients...
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. >> joining me now from israel gaza border, and bases ellison barber, ellison, the israeli military telling palestinians to leave northern gaza. where at the latest attacks been concentrated? >> they've been consistently telling them to head to south, to go past the gaza river, or the waddy river, and get to the southern part of gaza. the majority of what we have been hearing tonight and last night's heavy artillery fire into northern gaza. israel has said that they plan to focus their military efforts on northern gaza, particularly gaza city. which they say that is where hamas primarily operates out of. but, we have consistently seen israel continue to strike the areas that they have told people to evacuate to. we haven't gotten a lot of information about where the latest round, this latest escalation or expansion, new phase of the war, where further south those targets have been. that's in part because it's so difficult for information to come out of gaza with the communications blackout, that has been going on for more than 30 hours now. but we've consistently seen, almost every
. >> joining me now from israel gaza border, and bases ellison barber, ellison, the israeli military telling palestinians to leave northern gaza. where at the latest attacks been concentrated? >> they've been consistently telling them to head to south, to go past the gaza river, or the waddy river, and get to the southern part of gaza. the majority of what we have been hearing tonight and last night's heavy artillery fire into northern gaza. israel has said that they plan to focus...
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. >> let's get right to my khalid, ellison barber, who is at the israel gaza border. just after six a.m. 6:00 ellison barber -- >> stephanie, you might be -- overhead, throughout the, night we -- throughout the sound of military aircrafts, military helicopters and drones circling over this area. when we look back to the area behind me, which is part of gaza, you can see sometimes when something goes off -- the glow of orange from where we are standing and we had not heard from the overnight hours any sort of our hunch artillery bombardment -- into gaza. we have not heard anything rockets was coming from the section of the border out of gaza into israel last night. in the overnight hours we heard quite a bit of -- coming from the israeli side into gaza. that has not been the case tonight. most of the discussions, the talks, from the israeli military to all of the different parties inside of gaza have been focused on what happened at that hospital in gaza city. there is a lot of finger pointing going on right now, and nbc news has not been able to independently verify w
. >> let's get right to my khalid, ellison barber, who is at the israel gaza border. just after six a.m. 6:00 ellison barber -- >> stephanie, you might be -- overhead, throughout the, night we -- throughout the sound of military aircrafts, military helicopters and drones circling over this area. when we look back to the area behind me, which is part of gaza, you can see sometimes when something goes off -- the glow of orange from where we are standing and we had not heard from the...
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ellison barber, nbc news, the israel/gaza border. >>> as the world debates the military response, 19ays since the worst terror attack in israeli history, its leaders are trying to frame the stakes, today laying bare the brutality in graphic detail here's raf sanchez >> reporter: it felt like there couldn't possibly be new horror left to see, no brutality that hadn't already been shared or livestreamed, but tonight with global attention turning to the spiraling death toll in gaza, israel's military trying to keep the focus on the massacre that sparked the war, inviting nbc news and other journalists to a screening of raw video from the october 7th hamas terror attack. i have some sense of what's in this footage, and i've been trying to prepare myself, but i'm still anxious about what we're going to see for 46 minutes we sat in stunned silence watching video filmed by hamas and filmed by their victims. much of it had never been seen before, and while israel's military is not releasing the clips, because they're so graphic, they allowed us to describe what we saw, including a terrorist
ellison barber, nbc news, the israel/gaza border. >>> as the world debates the military response, 19ays since the worst terror attack in israeli history, its leaders are trying to frame the stakes, today laying bare the brutality in graphic detail here's raf sanchez >> reporter: it felt like there couldn't possibly be new horror left to see, no brutality that hadn't already been shared or livestreamed, but tonight with global attention turning to the spiraling death toll in gaza,...
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>> ellison barber for us. with us. -- unfolded overnight, what is it that you are looking for? >> -- case of a normal consequence -- both the political and military leadership have determined that at the end of this campaign, the retaliation, with the slaughter, deliberately planned slaughter of 1400 some odd israeli civilians, that they want hamas to no longer be the governing institution in the area. so, that is what they are trying to do. what we are now seeing is shaping the battlefield. in the -- of october they conducted five raids. tank mick ground incursions. navy commando raids from the sea. they have gotten in by air. they are conducting intelligence operations. they are trying to push hamas back from the border so they don't face a sudden 2000 terrorist attack back in israel again. but at some point, my conclusion is, they will go in on the ground, sit on this gaza city area, and try and use rewards and intelligence collection to get back as many of their hostages as they can. alicia, when you look
>> ellison barber for us. with us. -- unfolded overnight, what is it that you are looking for? >> -- case of a normal consequence -- both the political and military leadership have determined that at the end of this campaign, the retaliation, with the slaughter, deliberately planned slaughter of 1400 some odd israeli civilians, that they want hamas to no longer be the governing institution in the area. so, that is what they are trying to do. what we are now seeing is shaping the...
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nbc correspondent ellison barber joins us now from tel aviv. we're feting word out of the biden administration that secretary of state blinken does plan to be in israel in the region soon, don't have a precise timing on that, but talk about that relationship and what the president said in his speech a short time ago. >> reporter: we heard from the president a reminder and the number of americans who have been killed, some of the people being held he is tajs are americans, how close the united states and israel are, there are many people here as we've been out walking around today when we were in southern israel today, in a city speaking with people who are working as medics, they asked me where i was from, they said new york, brooklyn, they immediately started talking about neighborhoods where they have family. what the u.s. says here matters. they provide a ton of money and military assistance, economic assistance, also just on a personal level, so the fact that you could have secretary blinken making his way here will be something that matter
nbc correspondent ellison barber joins us now from tel aviv. we're feting word out of the biden administration that secretary of state blinken does plan to be in israel in the region soon, don't have a precise timing on that, but talk about that relationship and what the president said in his speech a short time ago. >> reporter: we heard from the president a reminder and the number of americans who have been killed, some of the people being held he is tajs are americans, how close the...
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your time, ellison barber, thank you for being here so early.t happened overnight there. >> reporter: stephanie, we have been here all night. we heard starting at about 1:48 am local time, it's significant volley of heavy caliber artillery in the direction of gaza. let's listen to what we heard, we heard this for about an hour and a half, it was consistent, every time you hear this boom, it maintains that pays for the entire time. it did not stop until about 3 am. listen. [sound of artillery] >> reporter: that was the most extensive volley of artillery we have heard in the section of the israel gaza border for at least two days now we have not seen missiles come from this side of the israeli border since thursday evening. israel has said they have everything in place to launch this next phase of war, which they have described as something that will be integrated and coronated attack on gaza from the air, by sea, and by land, from everything we have seen being in this area for more than a week now, they have the troops, the military equipment, th
your time, ellison barber, thank you for being here so early.t happened overnight there. >> reporter: stephanie, we have been here all night. we heard starting at about 1:48 am local time, it's significant volley of heavy caliber artillery in the direction of gaza. let's listen to what we heard, we heard this for about an hour and a half, it was consistent, every time you hear this boom, it maintains that pays for the entire time. it did not stop until about 3 am. listen. [sound of...
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joining us now, from israel, is nbc news correspondent ellison barber. ellison, when president biden lands, we would be likely that the israelis will be able to show him a full explanation of what they believe happened at the hospital? >> that is what we expect to happen. there was a briefing a couple of hours ago with the spokesperson for israel's defense forces. he said that they have acquired evidence, evidence that he described as various pieces of footage, some that they have publicly released. he also said they have some sort of audio recordings that their intelligence operations have collected, that they say will show islamic jihad members talking about this. they say it will prove that they were the ones that were firing a rocket. or rockets towards the direction of israel. and that they've been misfired and struck this hospital. they say that all of that evidence will be presented to president biden in a briefing when he arrived here in israel. he laid out so where well, lawrence, the different accounts that we are getting right now from hamas to
joining us now, from israel, is nbc news correspondent ellison barber. ellison, when president biden lands, we would be likely that the israelis will be able to show him a full explanation of what they believe happened at the hospital? >> that is what we expect to happen. there was a briefing a couple of hours ago with the spokesperson for israel's defense forces. he said that they have acquired evidence, evidence that he described as various pieces of footage, some that they have...
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israel ellison barber, in israel. tonight ellison, thank you.e want to let you know, reverend sharpton is moments away from the studio. but first, joining me now is congressman adam smith i, democrat of washington state. the ranking member of the house armed services committee. congressman, great to have you here tonight. thank you for joining us. let's start with the israel-hamas war, the white house is taking more than 14 billion dollars in aid for israel from congress. as part of 105 billion dollar national security package, which as we know, also includes 61 billion dollars in aid to ukraine. that request comes as the house has gone 18 days now without a speaker, which we're going to talk about in a moment. but first, are you optimistic at all that congress can deliver on this a package? >> i think it's going to be very difficult. optimistic not the right word -- i think the president took the right step [inaudible] the speech he gave a couple of days ago meeting the case for why it was important, very well stated. and working closely with t
israel ellison barber, in israel. tonight ellison, thank you.e want to let you know, reverend sharpton is moments away from the studio. but first, joining me now is congressman adam smith i, democrat of washington state. the ranking member of the house armed services committee. congressman, great to have you here tonight. thank you for joining us. let's start with the israel-hamas war, the white house is taking more than 14 billion dollars in aid for israel from congress. as part of 105 billion...
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joining us now from the israel gaza border is nbc news correspondent ellison barber. ellison, what is president biden likely to see or be in the middle of when he arrives in israel? >> reporter: you know, that's the big question. we have seen u.s. senators, majority leader senator chuck schumer, and republican senator mitt romney, who visited israel in recent days. they were here yesterday. and there was an air raid siren in tel aviv. they had to be rushed into a shelter. that is a very real risk for all of israel right now. and that certainly will be a risk when the president is here. this is not going to be his first visit to a war zone as president. remember, in february of this year, he did spend 24 hours on the ground in kyiv, ukraine. we were just in a press briefing, a phone press briefing, with a spokesperson for the idf, and we were able to ask him if he thinks there will be any sort of impact or delay to their military plans because of the president's visit. i want to read you a little of what he said. this is lieutenant colonel jonathan--. he said to our que
joining us now from the israel gaza border is nbc news correspondent ellison barber. ellison, what is president biden likely to see or be in the middle of when he arrives in israel? >> reporter: you know, that's the big question. we have seen u.s. senators, majority leader senator chuck schumer, and republican senator mitt romney, who visited israel in recent days. they were here yesterday. and there was an air raid siren in tel aviv. they had to be rushed into a shelter. that is a very...
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what >> ellison barber at the israel gaza border. ellison, as always, thank you. with that let's bring in our lead off panel, former fbi special agent clint watts. he's also a consultant to the fbi's counterterrorism division and in an assembly see msnbc national security analyst. michael mcfaul, former u.s. ambassador to russia and msnbc international affairs analyst. ambassador michael mcfaul, i want to begin with you. this is president biden's second wartime trip. your biggest take away from his visit to israel? >> i am glad president biden is the president of the united states. this is exactly what we need to be doing. this is super hard work. he is trying to support an ally, and their right to self defense. and at the same time prevent a bigger war and, at the same time, provide humanitarian assistance to the palestinians, as you were just talking about. that is a very difficult multitask that he is trying to pull off. but better him than anybody else. i would also say the same about secretary blinken. what he has done, while everybody else is talking about w
what >> ellison barber at the israel gaza border. ellison, as always, thank you. with that let's bring in our lead off panel, former fbi special agent clint watts. he's also a consultant to the fbi's counterterrorism division and in an assembly see msnbc national security analyst. michael mcfaul, former u.s. ambassador to russia and msnbc international affairs analyst. ambassador michael mcfaul, i want to begin with you. this is president biden's second wartime trip. your biggest take...
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we talk with minority leader hakeem jeffries, let's get a quick update from israel where nbc's ellison barberanding by. ellison, it's midnight there. what is the latest update? >> we are on the israel gaza border. does it is just behind me. that is the north part of gaza. we have seen and heard throughout the night artillery, you are hearing some of it now in the distance. fire in the direction of gaza. we have seen rockets fired into gaza. numerous explosions in northern gaza, lighting up the skyline. we have also seen rockets fired from inside of gaza towards israeli cities in this area. israel's prime minister says they have entered a new phase of this war. that ground forces are inside of northern israel. they announced that initially the grant forces had gone into israel last night, at about 8:15 local time. they have not left since then. they've been in there for more than 24 hours now. hospitals, it is really forces were on the ground in gaza. military wing state, in a social media post just yesterday, they were engaging with israeli forces in at least two different cities in northern
we talk with minority leader hakeem jeffries, let's get a quick update from israel where nbc's ellison barberanding by. ellison, it's midnight there. what is the latest update? >> we are on the israel gaza border. does it is just behind me. that is the north part of gaza. we have seen and heard throughout the night artillery, you are hearing some of it now in the distance. fire in the direction of gaza. we have seen rockets fired into gaza. numerous explosions in northern gaza, lighting...
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. >> ellison barber filed this report from israel. >> reporter: u.s.ecretary of state antony blinken says president biden will visit israel on wednesday shortly after the announcement at 3:30 a.m. the spokesperson for the israel defense forces held a briefing and we asked if he thought the president's visit would impact the military plans here. he said the short answer is he does not know. we will have to see. he expects later in the morning hours for the israeli government to comment more on the u.s. president's visit here. he does not believe this is meant to hinder the military plans here. he says this is to act as a show of solidarity to defend itself and ensure the conflict doesn't expand beyond what we have seen so far. israel is prepared to launch the next phase of this war which they have described in an integrated attack by air, land and sea. so far, it hasn't started. we have been on the border for days now. fired in the direction of gaza. we heard drums overhead. military aircraft and helicopters as well as fighter jets. so far, that next ph
. >> ellison barber filed this report from israel. >> reporter: u.s.ecretary of state antony blinken says president biden will visit israel on wednesday shortly after the announcement at 3:30 a.m. the spokesperson for the israel defense forces held a briefing and we asked if he thought the president's visit would impact the military plans here. he said the short answer is he does not know. we will have to see. he expects later in the morning hours for the israeli government to...
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nbc's ellison barber filed this report from the border with gaza. >> reporter: the section of the israelnd gaza border was relatively calm other than a few pockets of the boom of arrtilley in the direction of gaza. we have seen military equipment moving through the area. so far, no indication that the expected ground assault by israel into northern gaza has begun. we heard drones flying overhead overnight. we heard fighter jets overhead. we have seen military equipment moving toward the direction of gaza and a fairly large and consistent presence of israeli troops in the area. israel defense forces have called up 300,000 reservists and they are at the border with gaza preparing to launch the next phase of the war. they will attack hamas from the air, by sea and from land. they say the goal for israel is to make sure that hamas no longer has any military capa capabilities. a big question is what happens to civilians. this is a small pocket of land and not a lot of room for people to move to evacuate although 1.1 million civilians in the north of gaza have been told to move south. co co co
nbc's ellison barber filed this report from the border with gaza. >> reporter: the section of the israelnd gaza border was relatively calm other than a few pockets of the boom of arrtilley in the direction of gaza. we have seen military equipment moving through the area. so far, no indication that the expected ground assault by israel into northern gaza has begun. we heard drones flying overhead overnight. we heard fighter jets overhead. we have seen military equipment moving toward the...
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we have pentagon correspondent courtney kube, but we'll get started with ellison barber on the ground in tel aviv. ellison, i know you've been speaking with people in tel aviv. that sound that we heard from prime minister netanyahu about what will happen here will echo for generations. >> reporter: a short speech, really from the prime minister, less than ten minutes where he essentially said that these air strikes being carried out in gaza that's likely just the beginning, from speaking with people in tel aviv, they want to see more from the israeli military from the sraeli government in response to what's happened here. they feel like this date, october 7th is their version of 9/11. describing as we heard the prime minister do in his speech as well, hamas as an organization that's like isis, very much using terms that probably click for an american audience and american viewers than other terms, as we have spoken to people here one thing they've made clear to us they feel like there was a life in tel aviv, different from other parts of israel, but for tel aviv, for city life, they f
we have pentagon correspondent courtney kube, but we'll get started with ellison barber on the ground in tel aviv. ellison, i know you've been speaking with people in tel aviv. that sound that we heard from prime minister netanyahu about what will happen here will echo for generations. >> reporter: a short speech, really from the prime minister, less than ten minutes where he essentially said that these air strikes being carried out in gaza that's likely just the beginning, from speaking...
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with us now, nbc news correspondent ellison barber, ellison, you have any sense when a ground invasion into gaza may begin, and the latest on the ground in gaza this hour? >> yeah, that is the big question, when will this begin? a spokesperson for israel's defense forces today said that they are moving closer to launching this ground offensive into gaza. but they have been saying that for quite a while now. just the other day, we heard the defense minister at the israel gaza border speaking to combat troops. telling them you have seen gaza from the outside, soon you will see it from the inside. a spokes person with the israeli prime minister's office at a press briefing today said that they had moved forward on some of the final preparations and approvals to launch the next phase of war, which will include a ground offensive. but speaking with idf soldiers in this area, one told us they've been told three times that tonight would be the night, on three different days, for the ground offensive to start. and then it hasn't happened just yet. but what we can tell you is that the equipment
with us now, nbc news correspondent ellison barber, ellison, you have any sense when a ground invasion into gaza may begin, and the latest on the ground in gaza this hour? >> yeah, that is the big question, when will this begin? a spokesperson for israel's defense forces today said that they are moving closer to launching this ground offensive into gaza. but they have been saying that for quite a while now. just the other day, we heard the defense minister at the israel gaza border...
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>> ellison barber, for us at the israel gaza border. ellison, thank you. huma, one thing that was interesting to me, the families of hostages held by hamas, they gathered today to protest the gaza invasion. take a listen. >> we have to engage in negotiations. we have to do it now. they say that the only solution is to destroy, to flatten gaza. they never mentioned the hostages, never! >> we are afraid for our hostages, our family. we want to bring them home alive. >> as we watch that, we are reminded, the hostages, front and center in this crisis. i wonder, as you hear israelis themselves talk about the need to bring those hostages home, the way that they are framing this conflict, how they are challenging netanyahu's frame. >> i think part of it as well is, they, just like everybody else, were surprised to hear that this invasion, or the increased incursion -- i shouldn't say -- calling it an invasion. -- has alarmed everybody else. and the reason they are not using the word cease-fire is -- and we all know why they can't use the word cease-fire, is becau
>> ellison barber, for us at the israel gaza border. ellison, thank you. huma, one thing that was interesting to me, the families of hostages held by hamas, they gathered today to protest the gaza invasion. take a listen. >> we have to engage in negotiations. we have to do it now. they say that the only solution is to destroy, to flatten gaza. they never mentioned the hostages, never! >> we are afraid for our hostages, our family. we want to bring them home alive. >> as...
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. >>> let's bring in ellison barber, she's in ashkelon right now. you just heard richard's reporting there, what is it like on the ground where you are right now in. >> reporter: we've seen in the last hour give or take a series of volley if you will of missiles coming from the direction of gaza towards the more populated areas where we are, the city of ashkelon in southern israel and seeing israeli air defenses intercept -- we're seeing some empty flat beds now moving through here, earlier we saw flat beds trucks like that going through but carrying military supplies. we've seen further down the road an area where it was clear that israeli military was amassing near the border the northern border with gaza. we weren't able to film the majority of it. we weren't allowed to go past a certain check point. in part because as if war progressesed earlier today in the morning, a notice was issued by israel limiting what they said journalists can show inside of the country here and perhaps that seems to be why they were telling us we couldn't film past a c
. >>> let's bring in ellison barber, she's in ashkelon right now. you just heard richard's reporting there, what is it like on the ground where you are right now in. >> reporter: we've seen in the last hour give or take a series of volley if you will of missiles coming from the direction of gaza towards the more populated areas where we are, the city of ashkelon in southern israel and seeing israeli air defenses intercept -- we're seeing some empty flat beds now moving through...
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>> nbc's ellison barber starting us off this evening. thank. you join me now are daniel levy, president of the u. s. middle east project and aaron david miller, senior fellow at the carnegie endowment for international peace. daniel, i'll start with you. we have been saying this for now for several days, eminent. you just tell my colleague they're saying it. but i juxtapose that with what is happening beyond israel's borders. that release of two american hostages, the delivery of not enough aid but nonetheless aid into gaza today. and this caro peace summit. is there any reason to believe that maybe something is happening behind the scenes? not so transparently that could perhaps delay this? >> i think -- should not be overly focused on whether or not they will be a ground invasion because we just saw the heartbreaking scenes of palestinian family and gaza, on top of the heartbreaking scenes of what happened on october 7th. but every day, there is this terrible loss and destruction now in gaza. and that's going on without a crime invasion. in f
>> nbc's ellison barber starting us off this evening. thank. you join me now are daniel levy, president of the u. s. middle east project and aaron david miller, senior fellow at the carnegie endowment for international peace. daniel, i'll start with you. we have been saying this for now for several days, eminent. you just tell my colleague they're saying it. but i juxtapose that with what is happening beyond israel's borders. that release of two american hostages, the delivery of not...
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. >> nbc's ellison barber with that reporting. heart breaking reality of war. that does it for us today. thanks for joining us. we're back tomorrow, same time, same place. until then, i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. thanks for being with us. jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now. >>> good morning. it is 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart. we're just an hour away from the house floor opening, with now a fourth republican nominee for speaker. this time it is congressman mike johnson of louisiana. and he says he has the votes to win. >>> overseas, we're following breaking developments out of israel. the u.n. warning it may be forced to stop operating in gaza today as fuel runs out. some world leaders intensifying their calls for a cease-fire. >>> plus, forecasters warn of a, quote, nightmare scenario after a cat 5 hurricane slams into mexico's southern pacific coast overnight, near the popular resort city of acapulco. it went from a tropical storm to a cat 5 in just 12 hours. >>> we begin this hour on capitol hill, wher
. >> nbc's ellison barber with that reporting. heart breaking reality of war. that does it for us today. thanks for joining us. we're back tomorrow, same time, same place. until then, i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. thanks for being with us. jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now. >>> good morning. it is 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart. we're just an hour away from the house floor opening, with now a fourth republican nominee for...
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joining me now, from the israel gaza border is nbc news correspondent, ellison barber. ellison, thank you for joining me tonight. could you tell us what you have been seeing across the border in gaza, this evening? >> yeah, gaza is just in the direction behind me. you can sort of make out through the haze what would be the start of gaza, where just to the north of gaza. tonight, we have heard, what i would describe as the heaviest -- >> what's our, plan we do this and then -- >> into gaza. since we've been out, here we've been reporting on the ground here for about three weeks, alex, the last hour, it's gotten a little bit quieter. we've heard in just the last couple minutes a couple rounds of artillery headed in the direction of gaza. then there's been a bit of a law. all but for about three and a half, four hours, there's been constant booms heading in the direction of gaza. coming from really every angle of this section of the border. hamas's military wing, they have said that their forces engaged israeli forces inside of gaza, near the city of beta noon, which is not
joining me now, from the israel gaza border is nbc news correspondent, ellison barber. ellison, thank you for joining me tonight. could you tell us what you have been seeing across the border in gaza, this evening? >> yeah, gaza is just in the direction behind me. you can sort of make out through the haze what would be the start of gaza, where just to the north of gaza. tonight, we have heard, what i would describe as the heaviest -- >> what's our, plan we do this and then --...
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>> ellison barber, thank you so very much. we are also keeping a close eye on doha, qatar, where secretary of state antony blinken is scheduled to speak soon. there you see the podiums that have been set up. we'll bring you those remarks as soon as they begin. but with us now to continue our conference is yakov kotz, former editor in chief of the "jerusalem post" and senior fellow at the jewish people policy institute. thank you for being with us. what do you think that the -- the people inside israel today, how would you help us understand what israel right now is feeling as we're looking at six hours maybe left of this deadline they have given the folks in gaza, what is the mood there? >> the mood in israel, jose, is one of great anxiety. it was just less than a week ago, over 1,000 people were butchered in their homes, children, babies, women, men, elderly, holocaust survivors, hundreds taken to gaza, 40 babies found dead in one of these communities along the border. and we know this ground incursion is happening. israeli f
>> ellison barber, thank you so very much. we are also keeping a close eye on doha, qatar, where secretary of state antony blinken is scheduled to speak soon. there you see the podiums that have been set up. we'll bring you those remarks as soon as they begin. but with us now to continue our conference is yakov kotz, former editor in chief of the "jerusalem post" and senior fellow at the jewish people policy institute. thank you for being with us. what do you think that the --...
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nbc's, live ellison barber joins me now. from the israel gaza border. n, it's great to have you with us. i know you've been reporting on our air throughout the day. you've been seeing these explosions on the other side of the border from where you are standing. tell us what you know about how the second part of the operation is, this expanded ground operation is going so far, for the israeli military. >> you can probably, will likely see and hear it as we are talking to you here. but as we keep an eye on the skyline of northern gaza, the booms of artillery headed in the direction of gaza is constant. and there will often be just explosions that you can see happening inside of gaza. the sky will just turn to this reddish orange, and you will see that pocket, in some ways, in some moments, the explosions we have seen, a couple of them have been so big that, if you were to pause the shot, it looks like you are looking at the sunset. but you are not. you are looking at -- when that happens -- an explosion inside of gaza. and the reality is, every time you he
nbc's, live ellison barber joins me now. from the israel gaza border. n, it's great to have you with us. i know you've been reporting on our air throughout the day. you've been seeing these explosions on the other side of the border from where you are standing. tell us what you know about how the second part of the operation is, this expanded ground operation is going so far, for the israeli military. >> you can probably, will likely see and hear it as we are talking to you here. but as...
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. >> our correspondent ellison barber was reporting live on "nbc news daily" earlier today from the israel-gaza border. she had to take cover as rockets coming in from gaza suddenly flew overhead. >> so far today we have not since we've been out here in the last couple of hours seen or heard any sort of rockets. actually we have something coming over our head right here now. >> get down, ellison, we'll come back to you. >> ellison and her crew are thankfully safe from that. she joins us now. ellison, i understand it's an active scene where you are. what are you seeing there? >> hey, guys. we were just watching in the sky as some flares were sent up, and we could hear the booms coming from gaza. as you said we were waiting to see what prime minister netanyahu would have to say in his speech tonight, the fact that he was speaking on the sabbath we thought perhaps there would be some sort of big announcement within that. there wasn't necessarily. they did not announce as you reported accurately there that there is an official start to the ground offensive, but we do know that the idf, israel's def
. >> our correspondent ellison barber was reporting live on "nbc news daily" earlier today from the israel-gaza border. she had to take cover as rockets coming in from gaza suddenly flew overhead. >> so far today we have not since we've been out here in the last couple of hours seen or heard any sort of rockets. actually we have something coming over our head right here now. >> get down, ellison, we'll come back to you. >> ellison and her crew are thankfully...
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>> all right, nbc's ellison barber starting us off this hour. ellison, thank you so.let's bring in middle east analyst aaron david miller, a senior fellow at the carnegie endowment for -- it's great to see you again, aaron. it's a lot to discuss today. we will start with that press conference from the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. in a line that stood out to me he called this, quote, this war, the second war, israel's second independence, second war of independence. help us impact unpack what that means. will this generally fall as israel's second independents? to try to get rid of hamas once and for all? or is he saying, what is at stake here in terms of the fight for israel? of course, israel's war of independence conjures up a completely different feeling for the palestinians and the memories of the nakba. >> and by the way the prime minister quoted shakespeare as well. sort of elevating troops, to be or not to, be in reference to a state -- choice. to exist, or not to exist. so, clearly, the prime minister's frame is an existential one. and there's no
>> all right, nbc's ellison barber starting us off this hour. ellison, thank you so.let's bring in middle east analyst aaron david miller, a senior fellow at the carnegie endowment for -- it's great to see you again, aaron. it's a lot to discuss today. we will start with that press conference from the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. in a line that stood out to me he called this, quote, this war, the second war, israel's second independence, second war of independence. help us...
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ellison barber, thank you very much. >>> coming up next, for years, netanyahu propped up hamas. now it's blown up in our faces. what is next for prime minister's benjamin netanyahu's leadership. we're back in 60 secondings. -- seconds. -- seconds. seconds. seconds. secondingsseconds. secondseconds. . . . . . . d . . . . . s businesses need 5g solutions today. that's why they choose t-mobile for business. mlb partners with t-mobile to not only enhance the fan experience, but to advance how the game is played. aaa relies on t-mobile's network to stay connected nationwide, so they can help get their members back on the road. and we're helping pano ai innovate, to stop the spread of wildfires. now's the time to see what america's largest 5g network can do for your business. >>> speaking to the nation tonight on shabbat, noless, prime minister benjamin netanyahu vowed there will be revenge and the heroism of these days will be etched into jewish history. it is a move to rally the country, yes, but one also to rally support for his leadership which has been heavily criticized by many
ellison barber, thank you very much. >>> coming up next, for years, netanyahu propped up hamas. now it's blown up in our faces. what is next for prime minister's benjamin netanyahu's leadership. we're back in 60 secondings. -- seconds. -- seconds. seconds. seconds. secondingsseconds. secondseconds. . . . . . . d . . . . . s businesses need 5g solutions today. that's why they choose t-mobile for business. mlb partners with t-mobile to not only enhance the fan experience, but to advance...
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>> ellison barber, thank you. joining us now from tel aviv is ronen bergman, of the new york times., rise and kill first, the secret history of israel's targeted assassinations. does officials anticipated at least as far of the war. what is the latest your hearing tonight? >> the latest, and the dilemma is really decision-makers, both the military defense establishment, and mostly the government are going through is whether to go for that planned ground invasion into gaza. that is the only way they can achieve their goal, to dismantle that military infrastructure and political infrastructure of hamas. now, today, they added another goal. to kill the two leaders of hamas in gaza. or maybe listen to the calls from the world, and don't go to the ground offensive. it seems that the israeli prime minister, and some of his followers on social media, famous journalists, commentators, is expressing hesitance whether to go to the ground offensive. now i think, unlike his image, it is not a trigger happy politician. and he knows that all prime minister is that were commanding the country duri
>> ellison barber, thank you. joining us now from tel aviv is ronen bergman, of the new york times., rise and kill first, the secret history of israel's targeted assassinations. does officials anticipated at least as far of the war. what is the latest your hearing tonight? >> the latest, and the dilemma is really decision-makers, both the military defense establishment, and mostly the government are going through is whether to go for that planned ground invasion into gaza. that is...
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and i want to go to nbc's ellison barber, who is in israel. what are you seeing right now?> reporter: hey, jose, so we are on the outskirts of ashkelon technically, but fairly close to the gaza border and almost as soon as we arrived here, we started to notice some israeli tanks that were moving a bit in the distance as we were stopped over, they started to soon come directly next to us. i want you to watch a little bit of what we saw in that moment, and then we'll talk after. >> israeli tanks are moving in from across -- we don't know what direction they're going, constant of three, four in the last five, ten minutes here, just moving back in, all of them israeli troops headed back in that direction. so jose and ana, at times it's a little hard to hear because those tanks are so loud. what i was saying there is that we had seen three, four tanks in the last ten minutes coming from an area where we'd seen more movement, cutting through that path underneath the bridge heading into the wooded area. we don't know exactly what direction they were head from that point, presumabl
and i want to go to nbc's ellison barber, who is in israel. what are you seeing right now?> reporter: hey, jose, so we are on the outskirts of ashkelon technically, but fairly close to the gaza border and almost as soon as we arrived here, we started to notice some israeli tanks that were moving a bit in the distance as we were stopped over, they started to soon come directly next to us. i want you to watch a little bit of what we saw in that moment, and then we'll talk after. >>...
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joining me now is nbc news ellison barber. the secretary reiterated something that we heard president biden say yesterday that this is isis level depravity. what have you seen? >> reporter: yeah, i mean, look, we keep hearing those stories, right, and that's some of the frustration from a lot of israelis as people have had discussions about the situation here. multiple things in war and in this situation especially can be true at the same time. it is true that there are many civilians stuck in gaza with nowhere to go. it is also true that what hamas militants did here, what has been done to the civilians, things that, you know, raf sanchez was walking you through a home showing you minutes ago things that have been done to civilians since saturday is horrific. it is terrorism. and people here, when we talk to israelis, they're using a lot of terms that i think probably some of them know resonate with americans and people overseas, things like comparing it to isis-level depravity. one thing we have heard about israelis say, the
joining me now is nbc news ellison barber. the secretary reiterated something that we heard president biden say yesterday that this is isis level depravity. what have you seen? >> reporter: yeah, i mean, look, we keep hearing those stories, right, and that's some of the frustration from a lot of israelis as people have had discussions about the situation here. multiple things in war and in this situation especially can be true at the same time. it is true that there are many civilians...
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ellison barber has that story. >> reporter: this is the scene inside gaza's largest hospital.rwhelmed with wounded, running out of every essential supply. doctors tell us many of their patients are children. >> this is a 9-year-old boy with a large blast injury on his back. >> reporter: at least it is open. the world health organization says six hospitals in gaza have already shut down due to a lack of fuel. the ministry of health in gaza, an agency of the hamas-controlled government, says the number of closed hospitals is actually twice that, saying the health system in gaza is in a state of complete collapse. >> we're running out of everything from simple dressings to complex burn dressings. we have over 150 patients ventilated in intensive care areas. >> reporter: the hospitals throughout gaza that are open, struggling to keep up, and in desperate need of fuel. israel's military claims hamas has plenty of fuel and that they could provide it to the overrun hospitals in gaza. hamas denies this. "there is no room for additional patients," the health minister says. "we are now
ellison barber has that story. >> reporter: this is the scene inside gaza's largest hospital.rwhelmed with wounded, running out of every essential supply. doctors tell us many of their patients are children. >> this is a 9-year-old boy with a large blast injury on his back. >> reporter: at least it is open. the world health organization says six hospitals in gaza have already shut down due to a lack of fuel. the ministry of health in gaza, an agency of the hamas-controlled...
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nbc's ellison barber, thank you very much.gears for us, the senate judiciary committee is moving ahead today in its ethics investigation into the united states supreme court. the committee's latest move to vote to subpoena the billionaire benefactors of justices thomas and alito. the committee's chairman will be our next guest. don't go anywhere. s chairman wie our next guest don't go anywhere. (♪♪) (♪♪) (♪♪) (♪♪) i suffer with psoriatic arthritis and psoriasis. i was on a journey for a really long time to find some relief. cosentyx works for me. cosentyx helps real people get real relief from the symptoms of psoriatic arthritis or psoriasis. serious allergic reactions, severe skin reactions that look like eczema, and an increased risk of infections, some fatal, have occurred. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms, had a vaccine or plan to or if ibd symptoms develop or worsen. i move so much better because of cosentyx. ask your rheumatologist about cosentyx. >>> the senate judiciary committee has announced that
nbc's ellison barber, thank you very much.gears for us, the senate judiciary committee is moving ahead today in its ethics investigation into the united states supreme court. the committee's latest move to vote to subpoena the billionaire benefactors of justices thomas and alito. the committee's chairman will be our next guest. don't go anywhere. s chairman wie our next guest don't go anywhere. (♪♪) (♪♪) (♪♪) (♪♪) i suffer with psoriatic arthritis and psoriasis. i was on a...
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>> ellison barber, thank you so, much as usual, for your reporting. dr. matt gilbert isn't amused regency medical doctor, a member of the norwegian eight committee, emergency aid to assist in gaza. clearly trying to get aid to hospitals in gaza which we can't enter. he is treated patients in gaza during several violence including at al-shifa hospital, and he joins me now. doctor, i want to start with a basic logistical question about fuel for hospitals. not in any place where hospitals are operating they have backup generators in case the power goes down. the power went down in gaza very early in the blockade, it ran out of fuel, but there's some back up on the generators new, and where is the fuel usually come from under, quote unquote, normal conditions in gaza? >> under normal conditions there is a constant flow of both tanks and tank carriers and trucks. 4 to 500 per day to sustain a the people of gaza because of the siege and they need a constant supply of goods and fuel from the outside. these fuel carriers will bring the fuel to gaza and it is stor
>> ellison barber, thank you so, much as usual, for your reporting. dr. matt gilbert isn't amused regency medical doctor, a member of the norwegian eight committee, emergency aid to assist in gaza. clearly trying to get aid to hospitals in gaza which we can't enter. he is treated patients in gaza during several violence including at al-shifa hospital, and he joins me now. doctor, i want to start with a basic logistical question about fuel for hospitals. not in any place where hospitals...
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ellison barber is live on the ground today. rter: carl we're on the outskirts of ashkelon not far from the border of gaza. within the last hour or so we were headed down in this direction on the road when we started to see a large number of israeli military tanks and we stopped on the side of the road and watched as in a span of ten minutes a number of them, three or four, just came directly by us, heading into the woods. we don't know exactly where they are going but presumably headed in the direction of gaza. this is the second day where we have seen what appears to be more movement, more of a build up, of israeli military equipment, tanks, headed towards gaza. yesterday when we were driving towards the area of the northern border of gaza as well, we were stopped by israeli military and told we couldn't go further, but we did see through the trees what looked like at least 100 tanks and military vehicles lined up seemingly in preparation for some sort of ground assault. we don't know when or 100% sure if that will happen, but
ellison barber is live on the ground today. rter: carl we're on the outskirts of ashkelon not far from the border of gaza. within the last hour or so we were headed down in this direction on the road when we started to see a large number of israeli military tanks and we stopped on the side of the road and watched as in a span of ten minutes a number of them, three or four, just came directly by us, heading into the woods. we don't know exactly where they are going but presumably headed in the...
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let's go straight out to ellison barber with the latest in tel aviv as nightfall approaches there. ellison? >> reporter: hey, kelly, our team was closer to the gaza border a couple of hours ago in the israeli city that is about 2 1/2 miles from the gaza border. it is one of the cities that has just seemed to be under a constant threat of missiles and air strikes. while we were there, the sirens sounded and very quickly we heard and saw the rockets coming in and had to rush and seek shelter. we know that is happening in the city right now as well. inside of gaza, israeli military have changed the way they are going about their assault at this point. they have shicfted to a wave of air strikes. they have a full blockade of the gaza strip. they have brought up over 300,000 reservists, to the border around gaza, working on infrastructure. seemingly preparing for a ground assault inside of gaza. they have warned palestinian civilians in the area, telling them that they should leave, but the entire area, all of gaza, is blocked. there is one crossing that is israeli military officials wer
let's go straight out to ellison barber with the latest in tel aviv as nightfall approaches there. ellison? >> reporter: hey, kelly, our team was closer to the gaza border a couple of hours ago in the israeli city that is about 2 1/2 miles from the gaza border. it is one of the cities that has just seemed to be under a constant threat of missiles and air strikes. while we were there, the sirens sounded and very quickly we heard and saw the rockets coming in and had to rush and seek...
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. >> nbc news correspondent ellison barber joins me now from the gaza israel border. 's been quite a day there, ellison. what have you been learning and who have you've been talking to? >> we spoke to some people who are inside of gaza tonight about president biden's visit to israel, and about the news that there is an agreement, at least between israel, egypt and the united states to allow aid to cross into gaza via the sole land crossing that goes into a place that is not israeli territory, into egypt. and there was immense frustration from people inside of gaza. one person we spoke to, he said, he was disgusted by president biden's visit. and in terms of that humanitarian aid, he said, number one, he will believe it when he sees it, and number two, he said, that's not what they want. listen. >> if you could speak to president biden about this current situation, what would you want him to know. >> i want him to know that i feel disgusted -- comforted the families of the victims and talked so passionately about them, and about israel, the friendship to israel. the sam
. >> nbc news correspondent ellison barber joins me now from the gaza israel border. 's been quite a day there, ellison. what have you been learning and who have you've been talking to? >> we spoke to some people who are inside of gaza tonight about president biden's visit to israel, and about the news that there is an agreement, at least between israel, egypt and the united states to allow aid to cross into gaza via the sole land crossing that goes into a place that is not israeli...
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let's get a live record from ellison barber in israel.ening. >> reporter: we've been watching all of that in the last 34 -- 30 to 40 minutes or so. we've seen a number of rockets fired from gaza in the direction of israel, over the more populated part of the city of ashkelon. we were making our way down south a little closer to the gaza border, we're about two miles away right now. further down that way, we were stopped by israeli forces and told that we could not go further. we did notice a large amount of israeli tanks and israeli military equipment amassed in that area. the leaders have said they have hundreds of thousands of troops on the border with gaza and they are prepared to do what they believe is needed next. presumably, what we are expecting, is some sort of of ground assault to be launched. but right now, and this has been throughout the day, we have seen waves at different periods of missiles being fired both from the direction of gaza into israel and both from this side israel back in the direction of gaza. most of the ones
let's get a live record from ellison barber in israel.ening. >> reporter: we've been watching all of that in the last 34 -- 30 to 40 minutes or so. we've seen a number of rockets fired from gaza in the direction of israel, over the more populated part of the city of ashkelon. we were making our way down south a little closer to the gaza border, we're about two miles away right now. further down that way, we were stopped by israeli forces and told that we could not go further. we did...
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nbc's ellison barber takes us inside el shifa hospital where doctors struggle to treat patients as gaza's a warning, the images you're about to see are graphic. >> reporter: if the walls of gaza's el shifa hospital could talk, they would tell a story of a perpetual hell, of children crying out in agony, bloody, fighting for their lives after israeli air strikes. >> 40% of all of the wounded are children. this is a 9-year-old little boy with a huge blast defect in his back. this war is different in the types of ordinance that's used has a much bigger, incendiary component to it. >> reporter: the walls of el shifa hospital cannot speak. but they carry the echoes of the most brutal, often unspeakable moments of war. if the world listens. >> today israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu said that israel is preparing for a ground invasion of gaza, but he did not say when it will happen. more than 200 hostages are believed to be trapped in gaza. joining me now is daniel levy, and former senior adviser to ahu barak, and thank you both for being here. mr. amadun, i want to start with you, to ta
nbc's ellison barber takes us inside el shifa hospital where doctors struggle to treat patients as gaza's a warning, the images you're about to see are graphic. >> reporter: if the walls of gaza's el shifa hospital could talk, they would tell a story of a perpetual hell, of children crying out in agony, bloody, fighting for their lives after israeli air strikes. >> 40% of all of the wounded are children. this is a 9-year-old little boy with a huge blast defect in his back. this war...
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nbc's ellison barber starts off our coverage this hour from the israeli gaza border.hat are you seeing at this hour? >> hey lindsey. we're starting to hear a bit more moves in the distance in the direction of gaza, just over my shoulder back that way. that is where the border is with gaza. we have seen, tonight is also last night when we were in this area, and the days before massive movements of military equipment and military tanks and military vehicles, troops and artillery and everything you can imagine, as they make their way towards the gaza border. the idf, they said they have called up over 360,000 reservists. and the vast majority of them have been positioned along the border with gaza. some others have been positions along the northern border with lebanon, where they have been seeing strikes coming from hezbollah. the majority of those reservists who have been called off, they have been sent to the border with gaza. a spokesperson with israel's defense forces had a press conference is about for him tonight. or at least we're taking questions from reporters,
nbc's ellison barber starts off our coverage this hour from the israeli gaza border.hat are you seeing at this hour? >> hey lindsey. we're starting to hear a bit more moves in the distance in the direction of gaza, just over my shoulder back that way. that is where the border is with gaza. we have seen, tonight is also last night when we were in this area, and the days before massive movements of military equipment and military tanks and military vehicles, troops and artillery and...
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. >> ellison barber is near that border and joins us now.r: you know, it's been fairly quiet here the last two days, at least compared to how it had been earlier in the week when we had been in this area, almost throughout the night a sound of drones, military helicopters, military planes in the air here, but since thursday, really, we haven't seen massive amounts of missiles flying from this side of israel into gaza, at least from this section of the border and we also since friday haven't really seen massive bombardments of artillery. what can we see is the glow of orange flashes when something from the israeli side lands in that area, obviously president biden's visit today, there were a lot of questions as to whether or not it would change israel's military plans, for days they've talked about launching a ground assault into the northern part of gaza, just yesterday at a press briefing a spokesperson for israel defense forces pushed back on it, everyone's talking about the next phase but it noticeably be that. they were talking about a g
. >> ellison barber is near that border and joins us now.r: you know, it's been fairly quiet here the last two days, at least compared to how it had been earlier in the week when we had been in this area, almost throughout the night a sound of drones, military helicopters, military planes in the air here, but since thursday, really, we haven't seen massive amounts of missiles flying from this side of israel into gaza, at least from this section of the border and we also since friday...
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. >> let's get right to my colleague, nbc ellison barber, she was at the israel gaza border where it is now just after 6 am. excuse me, five a. m.. alison, good to see you, good to see you there safely. the last time you and i spoke, it was late friday night my time. you were hearing more ruckus, more strikes than you had ever heard before. things were getting intense. would have been like since then? >> it has stayed this. way when we spoke last, massive artillery bombardments into northern gaza. tonight, we're still hearing artillery, but we're seeing a lot more rockets as well as what appeared to be flare bombs fired into northern gaza. there's been a main pocket on the ridge. if you watch as you talk, you might see some of it again. we have seen just a constant flow of rockets, and again what appears to be a flare bombs fired in that direction northwest gaza's were israeli forces first entered the gaza strip. they've been inside gaza since friday. there are reports from inside gaza saying that israeli tanks have been cited near gaza city. remember, israel has said they plan to fo
. >> let's get right to my colleague, nbc ellison barber, she was at the israel gaza border where it is now just after 6 am. excuse me, five a. m.. alison, good to see you, good to see you there safely. the last time you and i spoke, it was late friday night my time. you were hearing more ruckus, more strikes than you had ever heard before. things were getting intense. would have been like since then? >> it has stayed this. way when we spoke last, massive artillery bombardments into...