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judge arthur engoron telling trump, this is not a political rally. telling trump to answer the questions, threatening to eject him from the court. leading the courtroom for a break but still under oath, the former president gesturing to reporters that his lips were sealed. there is no jury in this case. the judge will decide trump's fate, the future of some of trump's landmark properties. even so, taking on that judge was clearly the strategy today. and trump did concede he knew what was in the financial statements at the heart of this case. abc's senior investigative reporter aaron katersky leading us off tonight outside court. >> reporter: donald trump arriving at court today to testify in his civil fraud trial, spoiling for a fight. >> this is really election interference. that's all it is. this trial is ridiculous. >> reporter: new york's attorney general unfazed. >> i am certain that he will engage in name-calling and taunts and race-baiting and call this a witch hunt. but at the end of the day, the only thing that matters are the facts and the
judge arthur engoron telling trump, this is not a political rally. telling trump to answer the questions, threatening to eject him from the court. leading the courtroom for a break but still under oath, the former president gesturing to reporters that his lips were sealed. there is no jury in this case. the judge will decide trump's fate, the future of some of trump's landmark properties. even so, taking on that judge was clearly the strategy today. and trump did concede he knew what was in the...
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leave my children alone, engoron. you are a disgrace to the legal
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at one point, engoron told trump's lawyer, quote, control your client.udge also threatened to have trump removed as a witness, but eventually gave up trying to control the former president. the high stakes court case threatens the very heart of trump's brand. he is realest date empire. new york attorney general letitia james is suing him for 200 and $50 million and looking to bar him from doing business in the state. this is not the first time trump has clashed with the judge presiding over his case. brian todd gives us the background on the man weighing the fate of the former president. the >> judge arthur engoron might be hard-pressed to name a defendant in any of this cases who has been as contentious with him as donald trump, even prior to trump's testimony on the stand monday. during this civil trial judge and grown called trump to the stand and rebuked him, finding him $10,000 for public comments that the judge perceived as attacks on his clerk. >> a very partisan judge, with very partisan sitting alongside of him. perhaps even much more partisan t
at one point, engoron told trump's lawyer, quote, control your client.udge also threatened to have trump removed as a witness, but eventually gave up trying to control the former president. the high stakes court case threatens the very heart of trump's brand. he is realest date empire. new york attorney general letitia james is suing him for 200 and $50 million and looking to bar him from doing business in the state. this is not the first time trump has clashed with the judge presiding over his...
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>> this is a bench trial, which means judge engoron is going to ultimately make the decision. this is not going before a jury. yesterday judge engoron lashed out at trump attorney chris keis apparently made saying, there is a sense of misogyny in you referring to my female principal
>> this is a bench trial, which means judge engoron is going to ultimately make the decision. this is not going before a jury. yesterday judge engoron lashed out at trump attorney chris keis apparently made saying, there is a sense of misogyny in you referring to my female principal
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engoron saying you can attack me, but answer the question.warned trump that it wasn't a political rally and asked one of trump's lawyers to control his client. saying that was a simple yes or no question and we got another speech. i beseech you to control him if you can and if you can't, i will. here is trump speaking after his testimony. >> i think it went very well. i think that we were prepared and they listened. this is a case that should have never been brought. it is a case that should be dismissed immediately. the court was the fraudster in this case. >> the case brought by new york attorney general la tee tistia seeking $250 billion in damages and bar will him from doing business in new york. jeremy, there is a lot to dig into here. what do you see in how the judge handled him? >> i've never been beseeched, so a little difficult for me to fully comprehend. but as an outsider looking in, it was bombastic, it was not helpful. it really hurt him these at times it appeared to be a strategy to enrage the judge and get the judge do somethin
engoron saying you can attack me, but answer the question.warned trump that it wasn't a political rally and asked one of trump's lawyers to control his client. saying that was a simple yes or no question and we got another speech. i beseech you to control him if you can and if you can't, i will. here is trump speaking after his testimony. >> i think it went very well. i think that we were prepared and they listened. this is a case that should have never been brought. it is a case that...
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brought >> during nearly four hours on the stand, trump continuously clashed with trump arthur engoron. i am sure the judge will rule against me because he always rules against me. the judge responding, you can attack me. you can do whatever you want, but answer the question. in another testy exchange, the judge had to instruct defense attorney chris guys to control your client, adding this is not a political rally. we are here to hear him answer questions and, most of the time, he is not. the judge said, and then threatened to remove trump from the stand. on the financial statements at the heart of the case, trump said i would look at them, i would see them, and i would maybe, on occasion, have some suggestions. and, on his role in preparing the statements, i accepted it. other people did it, but i didn't say make it higher or make it lower, he said. when asked if he maintained accurate records from august 2014 going forward, trump said, i hope so. i didn't keep them myself. trump was also questioned about the valuation of his assets, including his trump tower apartment, which financi
brought >> during nearly four hours on the stand, trump continuously clashed with trump arthur engoron. i am sure the judge will rule against me because he always rules against me. the judge responding, you can attack me. you can do whatever you want, but answer the question. in another testy exchange, the judge had to instruct defense attorney chris guys to control your client, adding this is not a political rally. we are here to hear him answer questions and, most of the time, he is...
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i don't think judge engoron _ what he heard? i don't think judge engoron is _ what he heard?ation or indeed the trump family. the antagonism is on show and clear. in fact there was a point today where the judge suggested to donald trump's lawyers that they should keep them in control, and he said if you don't, i will. and bear in mind he is going to make these other decisions about what they call the disgorgement is effectively affiant, and the attorney general is looking for $250 million. but notjust that, it is about revocation of business licenses here in new york, about taking — dismantling those companies they control things like trump tower on fifth and a0 wall st just around the corner from where i am now. those are iconic bases would donald trump. that is what he has built his reputation on, quite literally. while he may have transformed himself into a politician with the presidency etc, one of his core self views is of an incredibly successful businessman, the art of the deal and all that. this would eat away at him a lot. i think thatis why we saw the anger from him
i don't think judge engoron _ what he heard? i don't think judge engoron is _ what he heard?ation or indeed the trump family. the antagonism is on show and clear. in fact there was a point today where the judge suggested to donald trump's lawyers that they should keep them in control, and he said if you don't, i will. and bear in mind he is going to make these other decisions about what they call the disgorgement is effectively affiant, and the attorney general is looking for $250 million. but...
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judge arthur engoron warning trump's lawyer to rein in his client. i beseech you to control him if you can, if you can't, i will. do you understand that. at one point trump leaned into the microphone saying this is a very unfair trial, very very, and i hope the public is watching. joining us now sheer shenland, public was not watching because there were no cameras in the courtroom, much to my frustration. to start, in terms of how the judge in this case operated knowing the spectacle it was almost certain to become, would you have done anything different? >> i think the answer is yes, but i'm not entirely sure. meaning there's a big difference between a jury trial and a non-jury trial. on a jury trial he had to do what he did. he would have had to cut off any irrelevant and speech making answers, but in a non jury trial, he's going to be the finder of fact in the end. he's going to decide the case so it really doesn't matter how long donald trump went on because the longer he takes, the more likely he was to make admissions, to sink himself, and that
judge arthur engoron warning trump's lawyer to rein in his client. i beseech you to control him if you can, if you can't, i will. do you understand that. at one point trump leaned into the microphone saying this is a very unfair trial, very very, and i hope the public is watching. joining us now sheer shenland, public was not watching because there were no cameras in the courtroom, much to my frustration. to start, in terms of how the judge in this case operated knowing the spectacle it was...
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judge engoron, i restrict you not to bring up confidential communications. one of donald trump's lawyers responds saying if he files a motion for reconsideration, he has to mention the subject. what's he taking about there? >> not entirely sure. i was hoping you were going to ask vaughn that question. it's hard because some of the notes are shorthand, and maybe not intended for us to interpret immediately on air. >> reporter: chuck knows he's the first on call for everybody at nbc news. if chuck doesn't have the answer, we have to stick around a little longer. >> we have to wait to see if the document gets updated. attorney general is also going to be talking about this. look, we have a little bit more. if we have materials at issue, are you saying you deny -- i don't see, hold on, i restrict you not to bring up my confidential communications. i'm prohibiting you from making it. you can appeal, you have no right or reason to complain about my confidential communications. if he files the motion, blah blah blah, if we have materials at issue, are you saying yo
judge engoron, i restrict you not to bring up confidential communications. one of donald trump's lawyers responds saying if he files a motion for reconsideration, he has to mention the subject. what's he taking about there? >> not entirely sure. i was hoping you were going to ask vaughn that question. it's hard because some of the notes are shorthand, and maybe not intended for us to interpret immediately on air. >> reporter: chuck knows he's the first on call for everybody at nbc...
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well, judge engoron — yip two don't get onto elf?so he is already $15,000 lighter. that tells you what this trial is all about from donald trump is my point of view. it is not a jury is my point of view. it is not a jury trial, it is a bench trial as it is called here, and he is still being rude about it. in some sense, donald trump has thrown in the towel in this case, and this is much more about the politics, the message to the wider country, the message to his supporters. find the wider country, the message to his supporters-— his supporters. and away from the grandstanding. — his supporters. and away from the grandstanding, did _ his supporters. and away from the grandstanding, did we _ his supporters. and away from the grandstanding, did we learn - his supporters. and away from the grandstanding, did we learn today| grandstanding, did we learn today anything that was pertinent to the case, who was responsible for the preparation and presentation of the financial statements? did he have a look at them? did he have any influence of
well, judge engoron — yip two don't get onto elf?so he is already $15,000 lighter. that tells you what this trial is all about from donald trump is my point of view. it is not a jury is my point of view. it is not a jury trial, it is a bench trial as it is called here, and he is still being rude about it. in some sense, donald trump has thrown in the towel in this case, and this is much more about the politics, the message to the wider country, the message to his supporters. find the wider...
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but it's not surprising. >> glenn, at what point does judge engoron up the ante.doesn't appear the fines are stopping trump from targeting the court staff. what more can he do? >> he can up the fines, but as you say, that probably will not deter donald trump. it feels like he believes he's found a winning formula. he pushes boundaries and pushes boundaries. he has his lawyers, you know, file the kind of court pleadings that i never saw as a prosecutor. they're embarrassing. they're unprofessional, and they are often just sort of unhinged attacks on judges, on the opponent, the prosecutors, or letitia james attorneys, on witnesses or others. i don't think donald trump will be deterred unless and until he is perhaps facing the prospect of a jail cell pretrial, i think that's most likely to come not in this civil fraud case, but in one of his criminal prosecutions, if he continues to push these boundaries in danger, witnesses, court staff and prosecutors, and poison future jury pools, then judges may feel like they have nowhere left to go but to revoke him on release
but it's not surprising. >> glenn, at what point does judge engoron up the ante.doesn't appear the fines are stopping trump from targeting the court staff. what more can he do? >> he can up the fines, but as you say, that probably will not deter donald trump. it feels like he believes he's found a winning formula. he pushes boundaries and pushes boundaries. he has his lawyers, you know, file the kind of court pleadings that i never saw as a prosecutor. they're embarrassing. they're...
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judge engoron has already decided that there is a problem here. there's liability. these were fraudulent statements. we're in the penalty phase where he's supposed to determine what the actual penalties will be for the trump organization. how does this week's testimony play into that, and was the trump team successful or did they really do themselves some damage this week? >> i think it was a very, very challenging week. i do agree with maya there. ultimately, what they have to convince the judge is the nuclear option that the a.g. is giving the court. in other words, anything for example, making it so that they can't do business in the state of new york, dissolving some of these companies, appointing a receiver. some of those penalties aren't warranted, and unfortunately, i really don't think that they did themselves any favors. and i really think that that is kind of underscored by the fact that most of the offspring around mr. trump has been attacking the judge, test. at that point that could be held against them. from then on it's all been about a slow -- defeat
judge engoron has already decided that there is a problem here. there's liability. these were fraudulent statements. we're in the penalty phase where he's supposed to determine what the actual penalties will be for the trump organization. how does this week's testimony play into that, and was the trump team successful or did they really do themselves some damage this week? >> i think it was a very, very challenging week. i do agree with maya there. ultimately, what they have to convince...
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it is not surprising that trump has gone after judge engoron, or his law clerk. i think anyone in this country would not have bet against him doing it yet again. but talk to us about this danger again, given how we've seen trump supporters reacting to these attacks before. >> it's enormously dangerous. i just, i am shocked that we have allowed this to get this far. i'm just going to use my best analysis that i can give you at this point, on this situation with trump, and the attacks on the judges. put his assets in jail. that's how you ended. that's how it stops. now, yeah, people will be mad, they will be upset. but there is no other person on this planet, certainly not in this country, who would be given the kind of grace that donald trump has been given to run his mouth the way he has. attacking clerks, attacking judges, attacking the prosecutors personally, threatening them. we've shown the evidence when he does that. how his base responds. and so the system is getting pulverized from within by trump, and is being pressed to the up teeth corner that you can g
it is not surprising that trump has gone after judge engoron, or his law clerk. i think anyone in this country would not have bet against him doing it yet again. but talk to us about this danger again, given how we've seen trump supporters reacting to these attacks before. >> it's enormously dangerous. i just, i am shocked that we have allowed this to get this far. i'm just going to use my best analysis that i can give you at this point, on this situation with trump, and the attacks on...
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justice engoron is on the side of letting the testimony in.ith this. i think that's the wrong tack. i think the state should let donald trump jr. testify in a way, justice engoron is doing the ag's office a favor, by allowing the defense to put in as much -- >> digging a hole? >> yes, that but by allowing them to put in as much evidence as they want without objection, it's going to be harder on appeal if the defense loses to claim, hay, we weren't given a fair trial. we weren't allowed to put in the evidence we want. i get it. i get being frustrated, but they should take a stop back and realize justice engoron is helping them by allowing the defense to put in as much as they can. there's no danger in clouding the issues to a lay juror. justice engoron has been involved in the case from the start. the ag needs to relax a little bit. >> donald trump jr. described the trump org as a mom and pop shop, an international organization run as a mom and pop shop. what do you make of that description? >> i think that's accurate. the trump organization, i
justice engoron is on the side of letting the testimony in.ith this. i think that's the wrong tack. i think the state should let donald trump jr. testify in a way, justice engoron is doing the ag's office a favor, by allowing the defense to put in as much -- >> digging a hole? >> yes, that but by allowing them to put in as much evidence as they want without objection, it's going to be harder on appeal if the defense loses to claim, hay, we weren't given a fair trial. we weren't...
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as judge engoron said, he's received hundreds of voicemails and threats and, you know, letters. emails and so on. that's just a small amount of the hate that i have received from maga supporters of donald trump over the course of the past couple of weeks. first, when i was initially supposed to testify, and then, of course, when they ultimately did testify. i would like to see that gag order include witnesses in here. witnesses should be protected to the same extent that law clerks and staff and the judge himself, prosecutors, chris kise, trump's attorney, alina hobbs, and cliff roberts. they are out of control. they are trying to take on donald persona, and in so doing, all they are doing is fostering this hatred and this inappropriate behavior by even now, by civilians outside of the process. from continuing, you know, continuing to do the things they are currently doing, which are really abhorrent. it is witness intimidation. it's obstruction of justice, and it would be nice to see and go around include that in the gag order. >> chris kisen experienced lawyer. alina hobbs, yo
as judge engoron said, he's received hundreds of voicemails and threats and, you know, letters. emails and so on. that's just a small amount of the hate that i have received from maga supporters of donald trump over the course of the past couple of weeks. first, when i was initially supposed to testify, and then, of course, when they ultimately did testify. i would like to see that gag order include witnesses in here. witnesses should be protected to the same extent that law clerks and staff...
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it's judge engoron. if donald trump is foolish enough to think that judge engoron is so gullible that he is going to buy into anything here is comes out of donald trump's month mouth tomorrow, i think he sorely mistaken. i do wish cameras were in the courtroom, some say that would give trump what he wants, i say let the american people let him see play the fool on the witness stand. and expose him as far and wide as we can. unfortunately, georgia right now as the only jurisdiction involved in pursuing trump that allows cameras in the courtroom. but tomorrow will be a bit of a circus. i do think the more perilous testimony will come later in the week from ivanka trump. >> take me gland, into the prosecutors shoes for a moment. what does he need to say? what can he expect from donald trump in terms of answering to his possible questions? but if you were the prosecutor, what is the moment that you are trying to get in the questioning tomorrow? >> what you want to do is set him up for failure. and laetitia j
it's judge engoron. if donald trump is foolish enough to think that judge engoron is so gullible that he is going to buy into anything here is comes out of donald trump's month mouth tomorrow, i think he sorely mistaken. i do wish cameras were in the courtroom, some say that would give trump what he wants, i say let the american people let him see play the fool on the witness stand. and expose him as far and wide as we can. unfortunately, georgia right now as the only jurisdiction involved in...
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and some respects, a judge engoron and's law clerks were very lucky in that there was a police officere to dimension the size and scope of the threat, but fani willis had some trouble yesterday in a similar hearing with respect to harrison floyd and his bond replication. he is one of the codefendants in that georgia r.i.c.o. case. he's a publicist associated with that weird episode in which a woman went down to try to get the two election coworkers to falsely confess. >> correct, and she had trouble demonstrating us today that harrison floyd's point -- post about this woman, ruby freeman, an election worker, were in fact threats. why, because there's nobody appointed by the government was writing them down or transcribing them. it should not be the case that you have to report to police to get the police involved for a judge to believe that is a credible threat that violates conditions of release or a gag order that is in place. >> look, the first one is really important. there are novel first amendment issues here, for the person running for president. there is something insidious her
and some respects, a judge engoron and's law clerks were very lucky in that there was a police officere to dimension the size and scope of the threat, but fani willis had some trouble yesterday in a similar hearing with respect to harrison floyd and his bond replication. he is one of the codefendants in that georgia r.i.c.o. case. he's a publicist associated with that weird episode in which a woman went down to try to get the two election coworkers to falsely confess. >> correct, and she...
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and i suspect we will now see the threats spike again to judge engoron's clerk. question becomes when will the system, when will the criminal justice system, take this seriously enough that they really, in earnest, trying to put a stop to it? >> we heard a response to your question, glenn, not only from the doj, but also from fulton county to gay fani willis when she says, this is not really supposed to be a cart before the horse problem. you shouldn't actually have to have the violence occur in order to justify the muzzling of someone who is trying to incite violence. the silencing of someone appropriately so, because the interest of justice require it. so, do you think that there is any type of cribbing coming on, in terms of i'm that new york a.g. appellate court, and looking to see what's happening in the d.c. appellate court, and looking to see what's happening in fulton county? you and i know there may not be open communications going on physically are publicly, but people are paying attention if you are on these benches to what is going on with donald trum
and i suspect we will now see the threats spike again to judge engoron's clerk. question becomes when will the system, when will the criminal justice system, take this seriously enough that they really, in earnest, trying to put a stop to it? >> we heard a response to your question, glenn, not only from the doj, but also from fulton county to gay fani willis when she says, this is not really supposed to be a cart before the horse problem. you shouldn't actually have to have the violence...
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overall, what do you make of the way engoron has handled all this? >> i was a little surprised to hear that. i don't think that's an ideal thing for a judge to say. let's put that aside because it's one awkward comment in many week's worth of testimony and trial. i wouldn't make too much of it. perhaps it's a strategy of mr. trump to try and goad the judge into making a mistake. perhaps they're hoping that there's enough error introduced into the transcript that they can make some sort of argument on appeal because there will inevitably be an appeal. all that said, different judges handle their courtrooms in different ways. this particular judge who is an experienced jurist, seems to be letting mr. trump have his way at certain moments and reign him in at others. none of it is going to make a lot of difference, frankly, chris. again, what the judge is hearing -- and the judge is the trier of fact -- are evasive answers which do not inure to mr. trump's benefit. it seems to me the case is going well for the state, that the record is relatively free of
overall, what do you make of the way engoron has handled all this? >> i was a little surprised to hear that. i don't think that's an ideal thing for a judge to say. let's put that aside because it's one awkward comment in many week's worth of testimony and trial. i wouldn't make too much of it. perhaps it's a strategy of mr. trump to try and goad the judge into making a mistake. perhaps they're hoping that there's enough error introduced into the transcript that they can make some sort of...
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and i thought, if anything, judge engoron was holding his fire and actually trying not to react. and you should know, most judges are very aware that litigants who are losing try that tactic. they try to goad the judge. i don't think he's falling for it. i don't think that strategy is going to work. if anything, attacking a law clerk, i don't think on appeal, those judges, they have law clerks also. so i don't think it's going to work. >> yeah, and it might not be a tactic. he might just not have any self control. andrew, thank you. >>> still ahead, we are moments away from polls closing in ohio. steve kornacki, there he is, he's standing by at the big board where he lives, with the latest. i'm sarah escherich, i'm the life enrichment director at independence village, the senior living community in waukee, iowa. everybody here really, really make you feel like family and that they love you. our goal with tiktok was to enrich the lives of our residents and just to be able to show people what senior living can be like. i think i am a tiktok grandma. my kids think i am. i mean, we'r
and i thought, if anything, judge engoron was holding his fire and actually trying not to react. and you should know, most judges are very aware that litigants who are losing try that tactic. they try to goad the judge. i don't think he's falling for it. i don't think that strategy is going to work. if anything, attacking a law clerk, i don't think on appeal, those judges, they have law clerks also. so i don't think it's going to work. >> yeah, and it might not be a tactic. he might just...
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the former president has repeatedly called the case a witch hunt and accused arthur engoron and letitiapolitical bias. we can speak to leslie, a former assistant attorney general in the department of justice's criminal division. good to see you. i want to start with these heated exchanges that we saw in the new york court today. do you think that the former president damaged his case at all by clashing with the very judge to is going to be the one to decide the verdict? >> i think from his perspective, no. he has already lost the case. the judge has ruled against him. i think he is playingo a different audience that is not sitting in the courtroom. trying to portray himself as a victim of an unfair prosecution. that appears to be resonating with some people. i think that is his strategy. he does not have control over what happens with this particular case. >> the judge has made clear that there could be consequences for these exchanges. could he find donald trump in contempt of court? >> certainly, that would be possible. depending on the facts. i think it is unlikely given who he is an
the former president has repeatedly called the case a witch hunt and accused arthur engoron and letitiapolitical bias. we can speak to leslie, a former assistant attorney general in the department of justice's criminal division. good to see you. i want to start with these heated exchanges that we saw in the new york court today. do you think that the former president damaged his case at all by clashing with the very judge to is going to be the one to decide the verdict? >> i think from...
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failure to abide by this directive should result in serious sanctions, engoron warned. the ruling came after eric trump returned for a second day of testimony in the civil fraud suit. eric acknowledged he was aware of the trump organization's statements of financial condition as far back as 2013, ten years ago. after repeatedly denying knowledge of them, after court adjourned he ripped state attorney letitia james to reporters, taking lines straight from his father's racist playbook. >> what new york state is doing to my father is truly awful. unbelievable company, some of the best assets in the world. they dragged us, and that's damage. they want our names in this thing because it sensationalizes the case. we have done absolutely nothing wrong. we have a better company than they could have ever imagined. >> letitia james' office has argued trump's children participated in a scheme to falsely inflate their company's assets to secure more favorable loans and insurance policies. remember, the judge has already found that donald trump and his two sons engaged in persistent
failure to abide by this directive should result in serious sanctions, engoron warned. the ruling came after eric trump returned for a second day of testimony in the civil fraud suit. eric acknowledged he was aware of the trump organization's statements of financial condition as far back as 2013, ten years ago. after repeatedly denying knowledge of them, after court adjourned he ripped state attorney letitia james to reporters, taking lines straight from his father's racist playbook. >>...
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trump attorney chris kise essentially accusing judge arthur engoron to his face of bias against his clients particular what he sees as the judge' riance on his law clerk for advice. according to an nbc news producer in the room, kise said, quote, as a judge you are entitled to receive advice, but if you are receivingdvice in a way that is indicative of bias, we have to make a record of it. the rulings are frequently, if not inordinately against us on every major issue. well, the judge insists he's been down the middle and that his clerk, quote, doesn't tell me how to rule. all this setting the stage for eric trump's return to the stand for a second day today. people inside the courtroom describe him as nervous looking as prosecutors work to poke holes in his claims that he had zero involvement in preparing the trump organization's financial records. after court adjourned, eric trump spoke to reporters. >> the last couple of days have gone great. you know why they've gone grate graet? because we haven't done a damn thing wrong. they dragged don and i into it as collateral damage. she can sit
trump attorney chris kise essentially accusing judge arthur engoron to his face of bias against his clients particular what he sees as the judge' riance on his law clerk for advice. according to an nbc news producer in the room, kise said, quote, as a judge you are entitled to receive advice, but if you are receivingdvice in a way that is indicative of bias, we have to make a record of it. the rulings are frequently, if not inordinately against us on every major issue. well, the judge insists...
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engoron cited a tax assessment valuing mar-a-lago at $18 million.mp responded it's much more valuable, i think between a billion and billion five. trump said the statements were not important and had worthless clauses, warning bankers not to rely on them. it was the responsibility of internal and external accountants to put together the statements, but he did acknowledge that the banks reviewed them. trump's attorney argues new york attorney general letitia james has no case. >> when we get a chance to speak, the truth is not pretty for them. it's honest, it's fair. they're a great company. it's not good for her politics, and great for his, and that's the truth, the truth hurts. >> james responding to those claims directly. >> you continue to persistently engage in fraud. the numbers don't lie. i will not be bullied. i will not be harassed. >> there's no court today for election day. tomorrow, ivanka trump will be on the stand. once her testimony is completed, the new york attorney general will rest their case. trump's lawyer is expected to begin th
engoron cited a tax assessment valuing mar-a-lago at $18 million.mp responded it's much more valuable, i think between a billion and billion five. trump said the statements were not important and had worthless clauses, warning bankers not to rely on them. it was the responsibility of internal and external accountants to put together the statements, but he did acknowledge that the banks reviewed them. trump's attorney argues new york attorney general letitia james has no case. >> when we...
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>> we got this filing on behalf of judge engoron, made by the office of the court decisions, a lawyer representing him in the proceeding. my ask, why does he need his own lawyer here? this is no ordinary appeal. this is a particularly type of lawsuit in new york state where you can sue a government official for unconstitutional, unlawful actions, so what trump is doing here is suing judge engoron himself and therefore, the office of administration talking stepping in as his lawyer. the affirmation that you're referring to was filed by basically the equivalent of a police officer for the court system who works for the judicial assessment unit. >> you work in new york city in the court system and so do. this kind of thing directed a clerk at the court, it's one thing, right, if you run for district attorney and hat, you're going to take some income. there are going to be saying nasty things about you. you may have to worry a bit about security, but you know that when you're doing it. not to say it's okay, but it's just a little bit of a different thing. a court clerk, have you ever enco
>> we got this filing on behalf of judge engoron, made by the office of the court decisions, a lawyer representing him in the proceeding. my ask, why does he need his own lawyer here? this is no ordinary appeal. this is a particularly type of lawsuit in new york state where you can sue a government official for unconstitutional, unlawful actions, so what trump is doing here is suing judge engoron himself and therefore, the office of administration talking stepping in as his lawyer. the...
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for example, the quote about her saying that judge engoron characterized trump as just a bad guy thatponding to allegations that trump was being selectively prosecuted saying repeatedly he doesn't fit into a protective class and that the attorney general is within her rights to make the decision that he is just a bad guy who needs to be prosecuted for his crimes. that's just one example of the selective quotation. the campaign contribution allegations, nicole, are of a different variety. and they may turn out to be true, and a violation of new york rules of judicial conduct. however, i've consulted with a fairly prominent lawyer, very well versed in these rules. and that person tells me, that's not a basis for invalidating or overturning any of these decisions on appeal, it's not a basis even for removing judge arthur engoron from the case. if anything it would be a basis for discipline. i think the trump lawyers knew that. they were hinting at allegations of campaign contributions that it emanated from a bright bot report, late last week and they told the judge on monday, the same da
for example, the quote about her saying that judge engoron characterized trump as just a bad guy thatponding to allegations that trump was being selectively prosecuted saying repeatedly he doesn't fit into a protective class and that the attorney general is within her rights to make the decision that he is just a bad guy who needs to be prosecuted for his crimes. that's just one example of the selective quotation. the campaign contribution allegations, nicole, are of a different variety. and...
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that let the judge, judge engoron here to push back against the attorney for donald trump, chris kise, who suggested these were open-ended questions to donald trump and donald trump may answer how he best sees fit because it's part of, in his words, a narrative that donald trump is painting as part of his testimony here. but judge engoron in response said that the prosecutor for the new york attorney general's office, in the judge's words, was being patient with his rambling answers and that donald trump, the witness on the stand here, needed to be more concise with his answers. donald trump is only expected to take the stand here today to answer the new york attorney general's questions. there's only so many hours here to work with. the judge directly here within the first half of donald trump here taking the stand already telling the defendant here to keep his answers more concise and pushing back against donald trump's attorney, chris kise's suggestion, that donald trump, this is a key part of his ability to build out his own narrative in his own defense. >> peter, we have seen tru
that let the judge, judge engoron here to push back against the attorney for donald trump, chris kise, who suggested these were open-ended questions to donald trump and donald trump may answer how he best sees fit because it's part of, in his words, a narrative that donald trump is painting as part of his testimony here. but judge engoron in response said that the prosecutor for the new york attorney general's office, in the judge's words, was being patient with his rambling answers and that...
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judge engoron saying to jump's defense attorney, "can you control your client? this is not a political rally. maybe you should have a talk with him right now." trump's attorney responded that trump was the former and he said future chief executive and should be allowed to speak his mind. now, a reminder, it's not just trump who faces the accusations. his sons and the trump company do as well. ivanka trump at one point faced the same charges, but the judge ruled she fell outside the statute of limitations. nonetheless, she's expected to take the stand later this week. trump left the courthouse for the morning break. reporters shouted out questions, but he made that zip gesture across his lips, a reminder, judge engoron has already found that trump, the sons, the company fraudulently overestimated or overvalued real estate assets. we don't say guilty in this case. we say culpable. but who did what is over. it's now what is the punishment. >> exactly. to be clear, it's not jail time. >> right. this is a civil case. that's a good point. no. but it could be hundreds
judge engoron saying to jump's defense attorney, "can you control your client? this is not a political rally. maybe you should have a talk with him right now." trump's attorney responded that trump was the former and he said future chief executive and should be allowed to speak his mind. now, a reminder, it's not just trump who faces the accusations. his sons and the trump company do as well. ivanka trump at one point faced the same charges, but the judge ruled she fell outside the...
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judge engoron has been perfect as a judge in this matter., i sat there for two days, not four hours, like donald lost his concentration and started acknowledging all the things that they probably sat with him for hours on and said not, whatever you do, do not acknowledge that you did this, or do not acknowledge that you did that. instead, he came right out, said yeah, i was involved with it, to some extent and so on. which by the way, it's a lie. he was involved in all aspects, something that i again testified to. i think judge engoron is absolutely setting the record perfect to avoid any appealable issues, because there are no appealable issues. this is a case of documentary -- documentary evidence corroborated with testimony. >> -- what do you make of the fact that prosecutors left ivanka as the final witness this week? >> well, remember that ivanka is not part of the case. she was time barred based upon the statute of limitations. why they would put her last, i don't really know. she could've gone for, as eric could've gone last, donald j
judge engoron has been perfect as a judge in this matter., i sat there for two days, not four hours, like donald lost his concentration and started acknowledging all the things that they probably sat with him for hours on and said not, whatever you do, do not acknowledge that you did this, or do not acknowledge that you did that. instead, he came right out, said yeah, i was involved with it, to some extent and so on. which by the way, it's a lie. he was involved in all aspects, something that i...
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and that is happening while an appeals court decides whether to revoke judge engoron's gag order. but things could soon change for donald trump. today an attorney for judge engoron argued in support of keeping that gag order citing an alarming increase inthets against the judge and his clerk since the gag order was temporarily lifted. since trump posted a picture of the judge's clerk online last month she has received 20 to 30 calls a day per day on her personal cellphone and 30 to 50 daily messages on her personal e-mail and social media accounts. today the attorney said the hundreds of voice mail messages fills more than 275 single-spaced pages. roughly half of those messages the filing states had been anti-semitic. meanwhile we continue to await a ruling from the circuit court of appeals. joining me now is josh gerstein. christine, the evidence the attorney for the court presented today is staggering. it is when donald trump posts pecktures and posts messages about this judge and this clerk. how does the appeals sort of process balance, yes, trump's first amendment rights but q
and that is happening while an appeals court decides whether to revoke judge engoron's gag order. but things could soon change for donald trump. today an attorney for judge engoron argued in support of keeping that gag order citing an alarming increase inthets against the judge and his clerk since the gag order was temporarily lifted. since trump posted a picture of the judge's clerk online last month she has received 20 to 30 calls a day per day on her personal cellphone and 30 to 50 daily...
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but he didn't appeal it in a traditional dway.tr he filed a lawsuit against judge engoron. he asked for a stay while that lawsuit was pending. that's what was denied today. the lawsuit is technically stilt pending, but there is no way for it to be resolved before this trial is over. so practically speaking, this gag order cannot be lifted, will not be lifted until the expiration of this trial, and even closing arguments in january.on o unless trump tries some sort of wild legal maneuver that i can't anticipate right now.an but the expectation is for the rest of the trial, trump and his attorneys cannot make public statements. now the two gag orders are a little bit different. the lawyers can still talk about corporate, but what can't talk about isn the confidential communications between the judge and his law clerk. trump cannot talk about courtroom personnel at all.m it will be interesting to see if the attorneys take advantage of that minor difference. >> what would that look like? >> it could complain, for example, about her partisan political aactivities, as they have i
but he didn't appeal it in a traditional dway.tr he filed a lawsuit against judge engoron. he asked for a stay while that lawsuit was pending. that's what was denied today. the lawsuit is technically stilt pending, but there is no way for it to be resolved before this trial is over. so practically speaking, this gag order cannot be lifted, will not be lifted until the expiration of this trial, and even closing arguments in january.on o unless trump tries some sort of wild legal maneuver that i...
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, hurlock lurked, also the general -- calling engoron psycho, the new yo.ch do you think the appellate court is going to take all of this into account tomorrow? >> i think they should file the wise old outage that when someone shows you who they are, you should believe them. i think it matters. i think donald trump has demonstrated that he will push the limits as absolutely far as he can and then a little bit more. and so, i think that this was a very powerful filing. there is sometimes a temptation to think of threats and harassment as theoretical and maybe dangerous. but to see these words and to realize how disruptive this is to the business of the court, and the individuals involved, getting phone calls, there is a real danger here unless the court stepson. >> okay. that is the new york case. as you know, the doj is using that evidence from the new york filing to argue as to why a gag order should remain in their d.c. federal case. trump's lawyers responded they believe that evidence is irrelevant because it has to do with h civil fraud trial. but here
, hurlock lurked, also the general -- calling engoron psycho, the new yo.ch do you think the appellate court is going to take all of this into account tomorrow? >> i think they should file the wise old outage that when someone shows you who they are, you should believe them. i think it matters. i think donald trump has demonstrated that he will push the limits as absolutely far as he can and then a little bit more. and so, i think that this was a very powerful filing. there is sometimes a...
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that is happening while an appeals court decides whether to invoke judge engoron's gag order.hese things could soon change or data. trump today, an attorney for judge engoron argued in support of the gag order, saying that the alarming increase in threats against the judge and its clerk since the gag order was temporarily lifted. since trump posted a picture at the judges clerk last month online, she has received 20 to 30 calls a day on her personal cell phone, and 30 to 50 daily messages on her personal email and social media accounts. in today's filing, the attorney said that hundreds of threatening and harassing voice mail messages feels more than 275 single spaced pages. roughly half of those messages, the filing states, has been antisemitic. in a meanwhile, we continue to await d. c. circuit of appeals, which is expected to oppose a narrow gap order, limiting what trump consent before his federal election interference trial in d. c.. joining me now is josh christie, senior legal affairs reporter for politico and christie greenwood, former criminal division deputy chief fo
that is happening while an appeals court decides whether to invoke judge engoron's gag order.hese things could soon change or data. trump today, an attorney for judge engoron argued in support of the gag order, saying that the alarming increase in threats against the judge and its clerk since the gag order was temporarily lifted. since trump posted a picture at the judges clerk last month online, she has received 20 to 30 calls a day on her personal cell phone, and 30 to 50 daily messages on...
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i don't thinkjudge engoron is convinced by anything he has heard, frankly, from the trump organizationump family. in fact, the antagonism is on show and clear and in fact there was a point today when the judge suggested to donald trump's lawyers that they should keep him in control. and he said "if you don't, i well." and bear in mind he will make these other decisions about what they called the disgorgement, effectively the names for a fine. the attorney general is looking for $250 million. but notjust looking for $250 million. but not just that, looking for $250 million. but notjust that, it is about revocation of business licenses here in new york, it's about dismantling those companies they control things like trump tower on fifth and a0 wall st, just around the corner from where i am here. those are iconic places for donald trump. that is what he has built its reputation on, quite literally. while he may have transformed himself into a politician with the presidency etc, one of his core sort of self views is as an incredibly successful businessman, the art of the deal, and all of
i don't thinkjudge engoron is convinced by anything he has heard, frankly, from the trump organizationump family. in fact, the antagonism is on show and clear and in fact there was a point today when the judge suggested to donald trump's lawyers that they should keep him in control. and he said "if you don't, i well." and bear in mind he will make these other decisions about what they called the disgorgement, effectively the names for a fine. the attorney general is looking for $250...
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i meant judge arthur [echoing] engoron!be taking the stand soon, so he responded by rage-truthing on his website. "there is no victim -- except me! leave my children alone, engoron. you are a disgrace to the legal profession!" "how dare you come after my sweet innocent children: don jr., ivanka, and eric. or as i call them, "little me, lady me, and wonder gums." now... like a totally not-worried person would do, trump wrote this attack on the judge at 2:28 a.m. nothing says "i'm not thinking about you" like posting at 2:00 in the morning. it's like a guy posting a gym selfie with the caption: "pumping the iron at midnight. i don't miss you, brenda. say hi to the kids. 'cause the judge says i can't." i know. behind that is kind of a sad story. but it turns out, 2:00 a.m. truth-rants are not legally binding, and as planned, today, the court heard from trump son and guy failing to catch a shrimp at benihana, don jr. don jr. arrived at the courtroom in a jovial mood. >> i should've worn makeup. >> stephen: no. you don't need it
i meant judge arthur [echoing] engoron!be taking the stand soon, so he responded by rage-truthing on his website. "there is no victim -- except me! leave my children alone, engoron. you are a disgrace to the legal profession!" "how dare you come after my sweet innocent children: don jr., ivanka, and eric. or as i call them, "little me, lady me, and wonder gums." now... like a totally not-worried person would do, trump wrote this attack on the judge at 2:28 a.m. nothing...
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trump was repeatedly admonished engoron by judge engoron for testimony that veered off topic, lashedagainst the court, new york attorney general letitia james gains, whom trump called a political hack. james is seeking $250 million after accusing trump, his oldest two sons, company executives of inflating the assets of the company. the trial determines how much the trump's will pay and damages. for more, we are joined by lauren aratani, reporter for the guardian who has been attending the trial. her most recent piece is headlined "speeches and grandstanding: trump scores few if any legal points in court." so you were there, lauren. if you can describe the scene but also contrast his early that's, getting angry, his face getting red with the documentary evidence that has been presented in the trial. >> the scene was pretty incredible to witness. not only is there the typical media circus that surrounds donald trump, but the also have it in a very -- it was supposed to be a civilized courtroom. it is very quiet. there are no cameras were recordings allowed. it is really just a prosecut
trump was repeatedly admonished engoron by judge engoron for testimony that veered off topic, lashedagainst the court, new york attorney general letitia james gains, whom trump called a political hack. james is seeking $250 million after accusing trump, his oldest two sons, company executives of inflating the assets of the company. the trial determines how much the trump's will pay and damages. for more, we are joined by lauren aratani, reporter for the guardian who has been attending the...
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he could certainly start an fbi investigation fani willis or arthur engoron or whatever. but he's running this as a real crass political campaign. his audience doesn't seem to be the judge or juries. but his adoring fan base. in the sense that he is both a martyr and a rebel. >> yeah, it is stunning. let me ask you quickly about the new court filing by the ial counsel this week, the electiinterference case. whh revealed the january 6th insurrection will be the centerpiece of the trial set to begin in march. is this surprising? because trump was not charged by the special counsel with inciting a riot, is this a risky strategy considering the courts have not noted that rather they have noted he didn't explicitly tell his supporters to commit violence or break laws that. >> not at all. all the special counsel is saying is this really goes to his intent and motive. is responding to a trump motion and how rich is this. the motion is, let's not even talk about january 6th. the actual riot it would be inflammatory. yeah, i think so. who did the information here? it was trump. tr
he could certainly start an fbi investigation fani willis or arthur engoron or whatever. but he's running this as a real crass political campaign. his audience doesn't seem to be the judge or juries. but his adoring fan base. in the sense that he is both a martyr and a rebel. >> yeah, it is stunning. let me ask you quickly about the new court filing by the ial counsel this week, the electiinterference case. whh revealed the january 6th insurrection will be the centerpiece of the trial set...
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at one point, engoron said i'm not going to allow you to file that motion.lked that back later. that raised my eyebrows, obviously they have a right to file that motion, but i think that in terms of appealable issues, as joyce noted, this negative inference, this assessment of credibility as the witness as we know, it's engoron stands in for the jury, as we know as lawyers, are ones that trial courts don't question at the trial court level, and engoron has said straight out open court when he put donald trump on the stand askin him about the gag order, about talking about his clerk, he said, i don't believe you. i find your testimony not credible. so if he did it then, i think it's more than likely that he will do it when the testimony matters more on the stand now with respect to the actual substance of these issues. >> tons of legal talk, which means that i get to talk to all my lawyer friends. joyce vance and caroline polisi, thank you so much for joining me. >>> still ahead, one of the key architects of the january 6th coup is speaking up and out in a de
at one point, engoron said i'm not going to allow you to file that motion.lked that back later. that raised my eyebrows, obviously they have a right to file that motion, but i think that in terms of appealable issues, as joyce noted, this negative inference, this assessment of credibility as the witness as we know, it's engoron stands in for the jury, as we know as lawyers, are ones that trial courts don't question at the trial court level, and engoron has said straight out open court when he...
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that gives them ten more days to attack judge arthur engoron, who was never a subject of the gag ordertantly his principal law clerk who was the primary focus of their ire and the reason judge engoron entered the gag order in the first place. >> and trump already came out as soon as this gag order was paused, he came out and immediately went on the attack against the judge, against his law clerk. so what happens if at the end of the day, this gag order is reinstated? he's already been fined $15,000. could he face additional penalties for this time? >> not for this time because there's an interim stay. so he can't be punished for anything that happens during the period of time that the gag order is stayed. however, if it is reinstated by the first department, that's the appellate court that has jurisdiction here and he does it again, you can expect that the penalties will be harsher than the $15,000 that he's been fined so far in two increments, $5,000, the first time, $10,000 the second time with a warning from judge engoron saying i will consider penalties up to and including jail for
that gives them ten more days to attack judge arthur engoron, who was never a subject of the gag ordertantly his principal law clerk who was the primary focus of their ire and the reason judge engoron entered the gag order in the first place. >> and trump already came out as soon as this gag order was paused, he came out and immediately went on the attack against the judge, against his law clerk. so what happens if at the end of the day, this gag order is reinstated? he's already been...
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judge engoron already making findings of fraud. wants him to, and lawyers like elena hall but chris kai are too scared or incompetent to tell donald trump no? >> i think you just nailed it right on the head there, katie. it makes no sense to me. what's the strategy here that they're trying to employ? first and foremost, as you appropriately and accurately stated, the issue of liability has already been decided. this is specifically a case on to scorch mom. how much? if don jr.'s own words, as to what role did he play, his comments was that he was merely a broker. i'm not even sure what that means. a sea referring to real estate broker, a deal broker? i don't need to think don junior knows. in essence, he lied. he perjured himself under oath before judge engoron. now, eric, who i understand is going to be testifying as well, he stated that all he does that the company is poor concrete. clearly another lie, and we'll, perjury. what i don't understand is the strategy. what i will tell you is that donald trump, he has to know that this
judge engoron already making findings of fraud. wants him to, and lawyers like elena hall but chris kai are too scared or incompetent to tell donald trump no? >> i think you just nailed it right on the head there, katie. it makes no sense to me. what's the strategy here that they're trying to employ? first and foremost, as you appropriately and accurately stated, the issue of liability has already been decided. this is specifically a case on to scorch mom. how much? if don jr.'s own...