a former faa special claims blaming the faa ludicrous spirit to what i see at this point they have zeroith this accident. but is not a matter of staffing. they had nothing to do with this at all. i can tell you that right now. >> plast think that firing at the faa and placing the faa is already short 800 technicians and these firings inject unnecessary risks in the airspace of aftermath of four deadly crashes in the last month. democrat congressman eric swalwell taking partisan shot, john, no president has had more planes crash then donald trump! and former transportation secretary pete buttigieg questioned the safety of the firings prompting current secretary sean duffy to set the record straight stating less than 400 of the out of 450000 employees who were let go, all probationary employees and none were air traffic controllers for critical safety personnel. sean duffy blaming pete buttigieg for failing to update an outdated system and account for the shortage of air traffic controllers, john cara joe. >> john: wow! it is extraordinary what is going on in terms of the blame game, grat

. 28-year-old jason king was at faa for eight months. when you were doing your job at faa, did you believe you were helping to make the public safer? >> i actually did. >> reporter: king, an army veteran with a service-related disability, says he worries cuts could be too deep. >> even for the people that are still there, their work load has drastically increased. and i think that's where a big part of my concern for the public safety comes in. >> reporter: other federal job cuts may also be linked to public safety. 400 layoffs at homeland security, including 200 positions at fema, the federal emergency management agency. hundreds fired from the centers for disease control, including about two dozen who support outbreak response, according to agency sources. protests across the country turning this president's day holiday into a day of action. from the winter chill of albany to sunshine in orlando, to the west, to the nation's capitol. >> the people are going to feel it eventually. >> reporter: meanwhile, an employee affiliated with doge

and faa grants. the spacex operator launch licenses. this is the tweet from transportation secretary sean duffy, who says that america deserves safe, safe, state of the art travel. and president trump ordered that i deliver a new world class air traffic control system that will be the envy of the world. he also says that representatives from musk, spacex and the transportation secretary himself will visit the faa command center in warrenton, virginia, today. he's also making essentially be on the lookout call, an all call for feedback from any high tech american developer who wants to revamp the air traffic control system. here is the rub, though. one air traffic controller put it to me like this air traffic control and the faa system is like turning around an aircraft carrier with a singular boat, or things don't happen fast at the faa for a reason, because the rules in aviation are written in blood, and safety is paramount. doing major sweeping changes in a quick way may not be a good idea. and it

under biden the faa, u.s.and n corporate america elevated de, diversity, equity, andway, inclo to status and that included delta air lines.d ar >> was the junior most juniorn. person they are and looked around the table and it was fuln of women. that is when i really realize this is ann agency that can empower women, rode him, and make them and have them become leaders. >> laura: hoanw reassuring. and we certainly know under biden and harris dei was ensuring every level of government. that was top priority for them. now recall the rampant speculation but the female black hawk pilot who was one of icanthree crewmembers tragically lost on the helicopter when ito collidedma with the regional je. meanwhile the two pilots names were release d in just two hours of the crash. w most of the female pilot social media had been scrubbed, we learned about in the interim, h of course led to more speculation. began, whatever the truth is, the public has a right to know. is a series of aviation nightmare always just a coinci

considering the faa employs about 50,000 people.hat we're looking at here is such a minuscule amount. a spokesman for the faa said on social media that the agency has retained employees who perform safety and critical functions. he also said the faa continues to hire air traffic controllers, mechanics and other support staff. we expect to learn a lot more about exactly who was let gofter the faa administrative offices reopen after the holiday. in san jose. thom jensen, nbc, bay area news. thank you tom. so who will be the next mayor of oakland tomorrow? your chance to learn more about the candidates happens. special election forum is set for tomorrow, hosted by the housing action coalition. greenbelt alliance and east bay for everyone. mayoral candidates barbara lee, lauren taylor and renea webb are expected to be there. three candidates for the open seat representing district two will also take part. forum runs from 6 p.m. to eight at the block community block on broadway. okay. how much do you. how much time do you spend commuting

but isn't there already a shortage at the faa?o this now, especially considering what's happened in the states? and now, of course, you have this other incident and a few others. >> yeah. >> well, this one happened in canada. >> but yes. >> i mean, i can only tell you what the secretary of transportation says. there are 45,000 employees at the faa. we're talking about fewer than 400 people. and he says. zero air traffic controllers and critical safety personnel were let go. so if that's true, i don't really have a problem with it, to be honest with you. i do like the idea of keeping the people who are in the direct chain of command of safety and the air traffic control system and so on and so forth. but i have a hard time believing that there is a single government agency that doesn't have a bloat of administrative personnel that we could probably do without. and i think that's why a lot of voters are happy that donald trump and elon musk are finally going through the federal government and trying to, uh, take out some of this bur

we should point out, by the way, the faa is not only being cut by mus the faa regulates musk and his spacex projects. the securities and exchange commission, no longer pursuing a rule that would force publicly traded companies to disclose their greenhouse gas emissions. that new rule was tied up in the courts. the sec says it will no longer defend that case as it decides what to do next. president trump has been flying around with a giant gulf of america map in his airborne office this morning. the government of mexico says it may sue google for changing the name on the map. at issue, trump's order only applies to the american sea shelf in the gulf, not mexican waters. the mexican government warning, quote, under no circumstance will mexico accept the renaming of a geographic zone within its own territory and under its jurisdiction. google maps in mexico still say gulf of mexico, but mexico's point is they have far more territorial waters than america does, and a country ought to be able, they say, to decide the name of its own waters. ask alexa about the gulf of mexico. she'll proba

now the faa employs 45,000 people.we're hearing so far is that these termination notices have been sent out to hundreds of people. so some say these won't be as impactful. however, others are saying that these positions still need to get filled quickly because it's part of a bigger system. in san francisco, ginger conejero saab. today in the bay. all right. thank you ginger. we also have new developments as members of a peninsula boxing gym are remembering one of their own who died far too young and a valentine's day stabbing. this happened at santana row in san jose. and we're not identifying that 15 year-old boy just yet. but redwood city gladiators boxing gym posted on social media that he was like family there. they also shared a gofundme page saying that he was stabbed in the heart while on a date with his girlfriend. last night we spoke with a gym trainer there who says he worked with that victim over the past two years. his character? he was he was a funny kid. he was. and chill. he had chill vibes. yeah, he was

this as doge was at the faa today. they visited the command center after trump fired nearly 400 employees. the faa union boss saying the lost jobs will have long term safety implications. i want to go straight now to pete muntean. and pete, what more can you tell us about these safety concerns at the faa? >> well, brianna. >> the faa is. >> overarching goal. >> is keeping flying safe. >> so it was an agency considered immune. >> to possible. >> government efficiency cuts. >> but today, i was given an internal. memo from the acting head of. >> the faa. >> and in it, he. >> says so-called special government. >> employees from elon musk's spacex. >> have been deployed to the faa to quote, engineer solutions to what he calls the agency's challenges. >> no doubt that they. >> are numerous. >> the faa is facing. >> a. major shortage of air. >> traffic controllers. >> and many of them are working. >> mandatory six. >> day. >> weeks of. >> ten hour. >> shifts. >> in fact, doge employees. >> already met with some of them this.

that is everything, -- all the lessons are emanating from the faa. we can start with the faa. the dei, problem that we have in the country and i 100 percent support president trump in eliminating dei, beginning with the faa, and the law supports not including dei in safety sensitive positions. in fact the federal aviation act of 195 #, titled 601 b states that the federal aviation administrator must perform his duties and powers in a manner as best eliminates or reduces accidents or the recurrence of accidents near transportation. nowhere in the act does it say that the administrator has any authority introduce a threat, which necessarily means that anybody in those positions must be qualified. so then -- >> laura: just to interrupt for one moment, the delta ceo indicated that there was no issue with the pilots at all, that he knew about. but many people watching -- back to that video, because, remember, we were in toronto. we weren't in the united states for that one. the weather might not be to blame for the crash. watch this. >> that's -- i concur. >> laura: wait, we are go

flying is safe but i would like someone to doge the faa.k yes but only after we get the budget balance. elon already has enough on his plate. jason. strictly speaking it's still the safest way to travel. he's right, that's true. susan. something needs to happen. if musk can help, so be it. mark says absolutely, and upgrading weather detection around airports would be a great idea. thank you for joining the nightcap. thank you for watching america's late news, "fox news@night." i'm trace gallagher in los angeles. we just started the week. see you back here for a tuesday "fox news@night." most influential audience. need creative? we can help. fox news media impact starts here. advertise with us today. i had the worst dream last night. you were in a car crash and the kids and i were on our own. that's awful, hon. my brother was saying he got life insurance from ethos. and he got $2 million in coverage, all online. life insurance made easy. check your price today at ethos.com. (man) got one more antoine. (vo) with usps ground advantage, it's li

the faa was still responsible for inspecting the aviation equipment and trump just let go of faa safetyt white house press secretary karoline leavitt is firing back. >> it's incredibly irresponsible for chuck schumer to say such a thing when the investigation is still under way. this crash unfortunately took place in canadian air space with canadian air traffic controllers overseeing it. reporter: this after democrat senator maria cantwell blasting the faa firing saying it's already short 800 technicians and these firings inject unnecessary risk into the air space in the aftermath of four deadly crashes in the last month. and former transportation secretary pete buttigieg questioned the safety of the firings, demanding answers, prompting current secretary sean duffy to set the record straight, saying that less than 400 to 45,000 faa employees were let go and all were probationary employees and ronna mcdaniel none were airtraffic controllery blasted mayor pete say he failed to update a world war ii system. liz: man, griff jenkins, thank you so much something else good to see you. now lis

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considering the faa employs about 50,000 people. what we're looking at here is such a minuscule amount. a spokesman for the faa said on social media that the agency has retained employees who perform safety and critical functions. he also said the faa continues to hire air traffic controllers, mechanics and other support staff. we expect to learn a lot more about exactly who was let go after the faa administrative offices reopen after the holiday. in san jose, thom jensen, nbc, bay area news. president trump also taking a case to the highest court. the trump administration has asked the u.s. supreme court to overturn a lower court ruling, which reinstated the head of an independent agency who was fired by president trump. hampton dellinger, a biden appointee, was still serving his five year term when he was fired. now, if the supreme court agrees with president trump, he could have even more power. joining us now is our political analyst, larry gerston. haven't heard that much about this case. tell us the details about it. i haven't

nothing to to with the way the faa is run. it's not the faa. one thing i want to say, the faa and canada, tremendous aircraft certification requirements. the outcome of this crash, with not a single fatality really indicates how superior the regulation is when it comes to building these airplanes. they have 16 g seats in that airplane. and also breakaway wings. we haven't seen those in airplanes 40-50 years ago. and that attests how great the system works. everybody walked away from this. that's what the airplane was designed for. and, umm, if there is, you know, a glimmer of light here is that everybody walked away. obviously there were a few injuries, but the system worked, umm, with everybody walking away. we really have to applaud the way these airplanes are built and the certification that the faa and canadian authorities mandate in the building of these, umm, airplanes. >> sure. real quickly, kyle, is there anything odd about the fact that the ntsb -- would we expect the ntsb, our ntsb, to take part in the investigation, even though it's

still ahead, what donald trump just did to the faa. weeks after a deadly mid-air crash over the potomac exposed and understaffing problem at the agency. plus, amid a cascade of resignations, he ordered to drop corruption charges against mayor eric adams. has just been put in someone else's hands. what his prior decisions could signal on that case. plus, secretary of state marco rubio has landed in saudi arabia for talks with russia on the war in ukraine. but there are no ukrainians there to negotiate this. what president zelenskyy is saying and also what european leaders are saying about it, you can see that some of them are meeting today in paris with emmanuel today in paris with emmanuel macron. time to press rewind with... neutrogena rapid wrinkle repair. it has derm-proven retinol... ...expertly formulated... ...to target skin cell turnover... ...and fights not one—but 5 signs of aging. with visible results... ...in just one week. neutrogena when emergency strikes, first responders are the first ones in... but on outdated networks,

from the faa. he remained on his job until inauguration day. >> yeah, that's a huge conflict, objectively. so what more can you tell us about who is impacted in these faa firings? >> is it a pretty big deal? and the fact that this is happening at the faa is huge. the concern is when these federal workers go back to work from the long weekend tomorrow, they could be barred from faa facilities. the workers impacted here are members of a union called passe. that's the professional aviation safety specialists union, part of the afl-cio. and union president dave sparrow tells me. between 2 and 300 faa workers started receiving firing notices from the trump administration late on friday. these are the workers who helped maintain the critical infrastructure that keeps the air traffic control system operating, he says. not only were these workers fired without cause, but that this was hardly a surgical move by the trump administration in a statement saying it's dangerous to public safety and especially unc

now, so far, the faa has not returned my request for comment. but we do know this from transportation secretary sean duffy, who announced the visit by musk's team. he posted on x that president trump is ordering a new air traffic control system and called for help not just from private industry, but any high tech american developer in overhauling the faa. so we're talking about private individuals as well. important to keep the context here, pam. this is happening during a very busy weekend for air travel, seeing as though it's a long weekend. in fact, some of the garages at reagan national airport were packed already on friday. on friday, about 2.5 million people pass through security at america's airports. a pretty big weekend for air travel. >> it certainly is. pete muntean, thank you so much. well, the irs and faa are joining the growing list of agencies targeted by president trump as he tries to overhaul the federal government and his actions are leading to lawsuits, including one involving a government watchdog who is suing after he was le

the faa's. >> overarching goal is. keeping flying safe. so it. >> was an. >> agency considered. >> immune to possible. >> government efficiency cuts. >> but i. >> was. >> given an internal memo from the acting head of the faa. and in it, he says, so-called special government employees from elon musk's space x have been deployed to the faa to quote, engineer solutions to what he calls the agency's challenges. no doubt that they are numerous, and the faa is facing a major shortage of air traffic controllers, many of them working mandatory six day weeks of ten hour shifts. in fact, doge employees already met with some of them this week. we know from the memo that this doge team toured the faa command center in warrenton, virginia. also, potomac tracon, that's the air traffic control center responsible for the airspace around washington, d.c. it is that facility that handled american eagle flight 4005 19 just before it was handed off to the control tower at reagan national airport. that midair collision happened three weeks ago. the faa has ma

plus the ceo of delta pushing back on the media trying to pin the toronto plane crash on trump's faaorms with the sound in this story too for you tonight. >> what seems like another one of those things that donald trump is either exaggerated or making up but city of aurora is great. >> safer than its ever been. >> it's one the people of colorado never heard about. >> the amount of terror and the amount of impact and mismanagement, the amount of care, the amount of concern was extremely evident. we have turned the corner on that crime and turned that corner on that mismanagement and we have definitely turned the corner on the victimization of the people who came here for a better life and ended up living in a place like this. liz: democrat colorado governor is now getting called out for blatantly and falsely misleading america during the election. the city of aurora, colorado never had an illegal alien gang problem, but aurora police now revealing the truth coming up we'll show you what the media will not report but first this. we've got trump nominee kash patel confirmed as fbi direc

but is not the faa. one thing i want to say the faa inents tremendous aircrafth certification requirements, the outcome with his crash with not a single fatalitiny really indicatewhens how superior the regulation is when it comes to building these airplanes.also they have 16g seats in the airplane and breakaway wings. we haven't seen those on airplanes 40 or 50 years ago. that attests how great the system works that everybody w walked away from this.as that is what the airplane was designed for. if there is a glimmer of light year, everybody walkedjuri away. obviously there were a few injuries, but the system worked withlly everybody walking away. we really have to applaud the way the airplanes are built into certification that the faa and canadian authorities made in the building u of these airplanes. >> charlie: sure. that is a great point. real quickly, kyle, is therentsb anything odd about ntsb, would we expect ntsb, air ntsb to take part in the investigation evenod though it is canada? >> yes we wou

now, the faa regulates space x, as i understand it. how concerned are you about that type of engagement? and do you think there's a conflict? what do you think of the conflict there? >> well, our, you know, our our employees that we represent have to sign after sign financial disclosure agreements to make sure they don't have any conflicts. our aviation safety inspectors, they have to make sure that the carriers that they're overseeing, they don't have a conflict with them. they can't if there's a shutdown hope there, hopefully there isn't. but if there's a shutdown, they can't go and take a job working in the aviation industry that they oversee because that's a conflict of interest. so you have to i think, you know, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. >> so i'm so grateful you came in and talked to us. thank you so much for taking the time. i really appreciate it. and coming up, elon musk and his doge crew are headed to the irs. and just in the last hour, we learned they're now inside the social security administration t

. >> the faa will not be will not be investigating this crash. the agency released a short statement reading the transportation safety board ofne investigation and will provide any updates. coming up right here on the four, we're going to talk live with an aviation analyst. excuse me about this crash and how faa layoffs could impact flight safety. again, that's coming up a little bit later right here on the four. well, thousands of people all across the country spent this president's day protesting president trump and the growing influence of billionaire elon musk. this was the scene in washington, d.c. today. an estimated 2000 people gathered in front of the capitol. organizers called it the no king's day rally. >> and similar protests were held all across the country, ba. ktvu is an rubin joins us now live from san jose, where one demonstration was held near. drew a big crowd today. >> and yeah, this rally was peaceful but vocal. the protesters say they hope if they make enough noise, maybe their government representatives will listen. [applaus

in that letter they sent to the acting faa administrator they write while we applaud faa for early actionsr safety, recent actions indicate your agency is inviting inexperienced individuals with intense partisan leanings into a process that should be objective and expert driven. you saw they were praising the faa and sean duffy for restricting helicopters from flying over the potomac near the airport but they say they want assurances that the faa will consult with experts in aviation to come up with recommendations after that midair collision in dc a couple weeks ago. sean duffy hasn't responded directly to this letter but in response to concerns that doge will jeopardize air travel safety he points out that doge isn't just about cost cutting but making systems including aviation more efficient and effective. >> i went to elon musk and said i want you to help me build. what are the best ideas from the engineers elon musk has access to but also on the hill, come to gather, air traffic control system that will be safer and allow more efficiencies. >> the faa say they will respond to members

. 28-year-old jason king was at faa for eight months. when you were doing your job at faa, did you believe you were helping to make the public safer? >> i truly did. >> reporter: king, an army veteran with a service-related disability says he worries cuts could be too deep. >> even for the people that are still there, theheirorkload has drastically increased. and i think that's where a big part of my concerns of public safety comes in. >> reporter: other federal job cuts may also be linked to public safety. 400 layoffs at homeland security, including 200 positions at fema. the federal emergency management agency. hundreds fired from the centers for disease control, including about two dozen who support outbreak response, according to agency sources. protests across the country turning this presidents' day holiday into a day of action. from the winter chill of albany to sunshine in orlando. >> we win! >> reporter: the west coast to the nation's capital. >> the people are going to feel it eventually. >> reporter: meanwhile, an employee aff

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investigations into that crash exposed staffing issues at the faa. faa. their union president says 300 members were just terminated by the new administration. the faa has about 50,000 employees. those laid off include mechanics and aviation safety assistants, but no air traffic controllers. who is already understaffed, by the way? a spokesman for the faa said in a statement that the agency has retained employees who perform safety and critical functions. all right. up next, here's a smile on your face. he stole the show during the all star game. he wasn't a player. he's a teenager from oakley. he won 100,000 bucks. he's going to join us next. also, how a brand new all-star is using his influence to help save athletics. the sports programs at sonoma state. you're watching a new year and a new adventure, with the perfect chevy to take you anywhere. ♪♪ with pure power unleashed. ♪♪ and future-forward technology. ♪♪ because every mile matters. ♪♪ and every path leads to new possibilities. or, current chevy owners can get $7,850 total value on this silverado w

we didn't get any notice from the faa at this point. right now we don't know if it's 300 or 400 or 1000 because. >> it could be i sorry, i just want to posit that it could be way more than the 350 that have been reported. >> it could be they haven't. they haven't told us who it is. and for as far as we're concerned, the inspectors and the technicians, they could we have probationary inspectors and technicians that could possibly have gotten the ax, but we don't know that for certain. all all we're getting right now is our members reaching out to us and telling us, hey, i lost my job. and we're we're talking about people that support the entire air traffic control system by virtue of the support work that they do. so let me start out and talk about aeronautical information specialists. they are a skilled group of people that that create charts, navigational processes, performance based navigation where aircraft can, can fly in a lot more efficiently. it takes a long time to develop those skills. there's at least 30 of them that are proba

hundreds of faa employees received notice over the weekend that they've been fired. it comes as the nation still mourns the deadly midair crash over the potomac river that claimed 67 lives just three weeks ago. investigations into that crash have exposed understaffing issueses at the faa, which empls 50,000 workers. but the president of the professional aviation specialists union said 300 members were just terminated by the new trump administration. they include mechanics, information specialists and aviation safety assistants, but no air traffic controllers, who already face a nationwide shortage of more than 3000. we got mixed reactions from local aviation experts about the significance of these cuts at the faa. all these people, although they may not be talking to an aircraft every day, still play a very critical role in the air safety system of the united states. a few hundred employees who are all probationary new employees or new to their position. these are not air traffic controllers, air safety inspectors, or front line aviation maintenance specialists. a sp

the faa is a good example.eeks after the deadliest plane crash in a long time, and just as we see more incidents around the country, president trump has fired hundreds of faa workers, including air safety personnel. firing people whose very job it is to keep air travel safe is nothing short of reckless. now the white house accused us of linking the crash of the minneapolis flight directly with faa cuts in staffing. nothing could be further from the truth. i simply said that when there are fewer faa personnel, the skies are less safe. does donald trump deny that there are fewer faa staffers? does donald trump deny that when he fires faa workers, including workers who focus on safety, it makes travel less safe? of course donald trump is obfuscating once again. he doesn't want the truth to come out. but he should correct course immediately and halt these firings, because the safety of the skies is at risk. now of course we know that president trump ignores the truth, but we need to speak the truth when people's sa

the faa firing hundreds of staffers as trump administration trims down the government.portation secretary sean duffy says workers were let go and dot said faa continues to hire and onboard air traffic controllers and safety professionals, including mechanics and others. the agency retained employees who perform safety-critical functions. everyone onboard this delta jet survived after it crashed and flipped upside down on icy runway in cloert. randy clatt, board of advisors for aviation safety, joins me now. remarkable images out of torrential and amazingly everyone survived, although several were injured. what happened there? >> good morning, carley. the latest we've seen in the way of statement from a passenger tells us the most. the weather wasn't very good in the way of cross winds, but well within the capability of that airplane. what i heard from a passenger statement said that they hit the runway very hard and then the airplane rolled and next thing he knew, he was upside down. that tells me the runway condition wasn't an issue. in fact fire chief of the airport a

a number of faa firings were ann announced. already short and this is a risk in air space in the aftermath of four deadly crashes in the last month. swalwell taking a shot saying no president has had more plane crashes in their first month in office than donald trump and pete buttigieg questioning the safety of the firings which prompted sean duffy to set the record straight saying mayor pete failed to update traffic control system and said the facts are faa has 45,000 employees les than 400 were let go, zero safety controllers. some connecting toronto to trump and doge, former aviation xfrts that's ludicrous. >> from what i see, they have zero to do with this accident. it is not a matter of staffing, nothing to do with this at it, i can tell you now. >> griff: canadian controllers are not part of the faa. >> steve: you know what they say in politics, never let a crisis go to waste. thank you, live report from d.c. here in studio m carley has news. >> carley: just confirmed this americaning, american kaylen biers was freed from

there is no linkage here regarding the cuts at the faa. we have an older air traffic control system. it has suffered from funding issues for many, many generations. and as a result, we need a significant number of highly qualified maintainers. those some of those were people that got cut. and i think the issue is going to be one of capacity as much or more than safety. the result is if the system can't take the new airplanes, additional airplanes, then they're going to cause flight cancellations and delays. so i think that that is one of the effects that we could be looking at by faa personnel cutbacks. >> yeah. so important to try to forecast what those cuts at faa could mean as we monitor the skies and this specific instance out of canada. tom costello, as we continue to wait for that press conference to begin, what are you looking to what are you looking for? what are you listening for? >> let me just if i could pick up on something, john said, i do think it's important to note that the faa is the. the transportation secretary says that

often the faa says, yeah, that's a great recommendation, but we don't put it into play because the faa has to weigh a couple of other things as well, or because they just can't get it done quickly enough. so the ntsb is very frustrated with the faa because the faa is that regulatory body, in this case, the 16 seats is something that was approved thanks to the insistence of the ntsb and the faa approved it. and the fact that it was there did save lives. and it's testament again, to the regulators working together with the ntsb to make sure that there is a regulation that enforces that safety improvement. >> it's fascinating to see how that recommendation has an immediate impact in the scene that we're seeing. and if you're just joining us, emergency teams right now are responding to a delta plane flying from the united states, from minneapolis into toronto pearson airport, a delta flight that apparently flipped upside down. you were seeing the debris right now. toronto pearson airport put out a statement saying that all passengers and crew have been accounted for. really a remarkable si

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in his recent changes to the faa -- for the incident.was pressed on whether this has anything to do with president trump, he pushed back pretty forcefully. >> the trump administration recently barred many employees of the faa administration. do those cuts were you and do you feel that impact safety? i note -- but after looking at all these mishaps, a lot of people are nervous. duties affecting? speak of cuts do not affect us. the reality is, there's over 50,000 people that work at the faa, and i understand the cuts were 300 people, noncritical safety projects. the trump administration has committed to investing deeply in terms of improving the overall technologies used in the air traffic control systems, modernizing the skies. they have committed to hiring additional controllers and investigators, safety investigators, so no, i'm not concerned with that at all. >> that was gayle king been fact-checked. maybe, the delta ceo has a career in fact-checking. no fact-check on this. what he said was correct. >> congresswoman jasmine crockett fr

elon musk, meanwhile, sent a team from his spacex rocket company. >> to visit. >> the faa headquarters. musk. >> reviewing the agency. >> that he's supposed to be on equal bargaining terms with. and there's an allegation spacex violated safety rules. >> in the past. >> so, again, a lot of scrutiny on how safety works and what the priorities are and whether you cut corners to make money or not, because there have been these mass layoffs under the trump administration at the faa. and one of the unions there says this will only increase workload at a time where employees are further stretched thin. again, we don't have evidence and the news is not indicating any direct causal link here, but rather a larger question of whether this is the time to cut back on aviation safety. and is this being done in a competent, thought out manner? those are the first sort of primary safety concerns. the second order concerns are whether elon musk, who doesn't run the faa, hasn't been put on the cabinet, whether he should have this much authority. the courts, as you know from following the news, are tackl

the faa says 2 people were aboard each plane. the more on a regional airport has 2 intersecting runways but operates without an air traffic control tower. multimillion dollar project was underway to build a tower but delays due to the pandemic pushback. construction, tens of thousands of flights arrive and depart from the airport each year. the ntsb is investigating the crash. meantime, authorities are still investigating what caused a delta plane to crash land and flipped over in toronto on monday. >> more than a dozen people were hurt, but everyone on board did survive a video showing the moment the plane crashed is raising questions about the pilot's actions. experts say that the clip appears to show that the pilot did not raise the aircraft's nose during the descent. canada's transportation safety board with the help of the faa. they're heading the probe into this crash in total 8 crashes have happened in the last 3 weeks in both the u.s. and canada on the peninsula. contract negotiations for san carlos airport. air traffic c

the faa says two people were on board each aircraft. while federal investigators say the cessna landed uneventfully, the other crashed, catching fire. local officials confirmed two people are dead. both planes were over what's known as an uncontrolled field that has no air traffic control tower. >> small airplanes go in a out frequently. they depend on radio positions to tell each other where they the airplanes are and visually to watch out for other airplanes, similar to driving a car. you look outside to make sure you don't hit anything. >> reporter: this has been a troubling year for american aviation. last month, 67 people were killed on an american airlines jet. then earlier this week, a delta airliner flipped over as it landed at toronto pearson international airport. 18 people were injured. tonight, officials say efforts have begun to remove the plane from the runway, which should improve traffic delays at one of north america's busiest airports. jesse kirsch, nbc news. >>> in washington, the pentagon is expected to be the latest

faa air traffic firings might look startling, especially considering recent history.s we talked to say it could be a lot

authorities in canada and faa work hand in glove, they sync up all of their rules and regs.oordinate every single day on aviation, air traffic control, on investigations, their transportation safety boards cooperate on a regular basis not just of course for aviation safety incident but a private plane that went down. there's a very close cooperation and as you would expect this is the busiest airport in all of canada. i'm often -- i often say on the air when we're talking about how airports in the united states are impacted by weather for example, i often say don't forget about toronto it's literally right across the border and it's pay jar airport that's also affected and it's affect airplanes in the united states. groundstop in effect in toronto. it will affect traffic down to the united states. lot of folks going to europe for example from the states they'll go through toronto and then on to europe and vice versa coming back that way. this will have a ripple effect. >>> if you're just watching right now we're covering the breaking news out of toronto, a plane accident as

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or faa employees.lled the accusation ludicrous. >> from what i see at this point they have 0 to do with this accident. it's not a matter of staffing, nothing to do with this. >> reporter: this as plane crashes are at the center of political attacks on trump and a doge-commerce senator maria cantwell blasted the decision to fire faa employee saying the faa is already short of technicians and these firings inject unnecessary risk into the airspace in the aftermath of four deadly crashes last month. democrat congressman eric swallwell saying, quote, the president has had more plane crashes in the first month in office than donald trump. former transportation secretary pete buttigieg questioned the safety of the firings demanding who was left go and fry -- why. sean duffy said 400 were fires all were probationary, did not include air traffic controllers. duffy criticized his predecessor saying get buttigieg failed to address the air traffic controller shortage and the updated system. stuart: thanks very mu