i voted for the dumb fence, i guess. i didn't realize it was a dumb fence. i thought it was a commitment we made to the american people to get serious about skraourg the border. there are other ways -- i would certainly concede -- other ways in which we can combine manpower, technology, infrastructure along the border to make it more secure. however, a border fence is a cost-effective component, and i would say to my colleague from louisiana, there are dollars in this bill. there's $6.5 billion for border security, some of which is dedicated, $1.5 billion is dedicated to fencing, infrastructure and those sorts of things. and the costs that i mentioned in my earlier remarks, if you look at it on a per-mile basis to build the fence, $3.2 million per mile, you would be looking at somewhere around a billion dollars, less than the amount that's allowed for and allocated in the bill for fencing and infrastructure and those sorts of things. but this is not a new issue. we have been here, you voted for the fence. i think many of us here in the senate at that time, a

the deer keeps trying to get on the other side of the fence, so he keeps running back into the fence. >> you can't go through the fence. >> this little baby figures it out. >> i just rescued a baby deer. >> we get a nice zoom in shot of the baby deer trotting off into the forest. now, remember, i said i had a couple of videos that show you that sometimes pesky fences get in the way. this time, not baby deer, but a baby goat. >> oh. >> oh, man. >> and his baby horns got stuck. did you hear that snap? >> what was it? >> it was the little horn coming loose from the fence. it was the horn that got him stuck. and then watch. >> he's fine. >> he's doing just fine. runs back over with the rest of his herd and he's going to nibble grass elsewhere. >> whoever came one that style of fence should rethink things. it doesn't seem effective. >> do you have your head stuck in the fence? yes, you do. >> all aboard the angry train. >> this guy in the red shirt just sucker punched this dude in the blue. >> see how this drain ride got off track. >>> and this guy is using a speech jammer app. now watch w

so the fences in these kind of areas are not damaging. fences can make things better. and as they say, sometimes good fences make good neighbors. good fences make good neighbors. so i just would -- i'm not impressed with that so much, and i do think it's important for us to ask ourselves will it actually get built this time if we pass that? i have my doubts because you don't have the trigger on it, as i understand from the reports. the trigger being you don't get the amnesty until you get the fence bill. then you might try to -- you might get some fencing. senator thune offered a good amendment. senator thune's amendment said before you give the first bit of amnesty, you should bill at least -- build at least 350 miles of the double fencing, and then the other 300 has to be built therefore after that. that was voted down. but after the bill got in trouble, now they got 700 miles in there or at least of single fencing. that's the way this process has worked, and i believe the american people are absolutely right, they're absolutely right to be unhappy with their governm

running back into the fence. >> you can't go through the fence. >> this little baby figures it out. >> i just rescued a baby deer. >> zoom-in shot of the baby deer trotting into the forest. >> a couple of videos that show you sometimes pesky fences get the way. ts time, not a baby deut a >> oh. >> oh, man. >> sounds awful. >> you know what's going on here. the little baby horns got stuck. >> hear that snap? >> what was it? >> the little baby horn coming lose. >> he is doing just fine, runs back with the rest of the herd and nibbles elsewhere. >> whoever came up with that style of fence, should re-think things. >> do you have your head stuck? yes, do you. >>> not the smartest driving move. what happens when the car comes up for air. >>> and the new exercise that is prancing all around the web. >> i think this might be the next internet means, because now we have the >>> moose takes the sprinkler. >> you know, the days before the internet, you do something stupid, you were kind of asha d ashamed. now it seems like pint of pride. two guys racing along a dirt road next to a lake, when t

for 350 miles of fencing. 700 miles of fencing. that compares to about 42 miles of fencing we have in place right now. fourth, the secretary of homeland security must verify that the mandatory e until these requirements are met. once again, simply put, we must secure the border first. that's what americans demand and that's what we must do to get comprehensive immigration reform right. that's what this legislation does and it does it with objective and verifiable methods. we ask our colleagues on both sides of the aisle to join with us and to pass this legislation. at this point i would like to turn to my distinguished colleague from tennessee and again i want to thank him for his tremendous work which is ongoing but i just can't say how much i appreciate his good efforts and his good faith on a bipartisan basis and i turn for his comments as well as then to enter into a colloquy with our colleagues who have worked so hard and played a real leadership role with this legislation. >> i want to thank the senator from north dakota for

that's the type of the fence. in addition at the departments suggestion we will help establish an appropriate edge. the masonry is intended to respond to other fencing in the neighborhood it will be making the fensz sympathetic to its surrounding. grocery outlet is going to paint a mural. so we're working with we have identified an artist. and to have a mural paint on the current blank walls to further beautify the site for the benefit of the neighborhood. in closings the grocery outlet t is going to provide full grocery optioned to the neighborhood. we have to significantly improve the attractiveness of the neighborhood. it has the support of our staff and neighborhoods and hope it will receive our approval as well. we're here to answer any questions i might have thank you >> thank you. opening it up for any public comment at this point. seeing none, the public comment is closed >> i think this is a terrific project. it's look a grocery store over the last 40 years >> i'm glad this is appropriate including dealin

because the issue was, you say you're for a fence, you go back home and say, "i voted for fencing and barriers," and then you don't put up the money. so the money was even put up, and it still did not happen as required by law. and, senator thune, i think you said it so clearly, that's why the american people are rightly concerned about amnesty first with a promise of enforcement in the future. even when we pass laws that plainly say a fence shall be built, we put up money to build that fence and it doesn't happen in the future. so what we are asked to do with this legislation is to grant amnesty immediately. that will happen. that's the one thing in this bill that will happen. but we need to ask ourselves, what are the american people telling us. and a recent poll showed by a 4-1 margin the american people said, we want to see the enforcement first. then we'll talk about the amnesty. do your enforcement first. and your question is, how will it work? well, we have discussed that over the years. greatest example of how it works is at san diego. that area was in complete disarray -- vio

there were holes all over the part of the fence that we saw.zona, texas, you're going to see the same thing. it is the -- chain is only as strong as its weakest link. the chain is only effective as pistol. john: this is the age of cool, amazing technology. i would think with drones, the cameras, president bush found it a virtual fans. >> he did promise a virtual fans, but it was costly, still requires a lot of border patrol manpower. john: they give up on it. >> they did. it was costing billions of dollars. the gao, a general accounting office issued several skating reports about the virtual fans because it was a boondoggle, too expensive and it was enough time to work and still require just as much if not more manpower. john: they could spend more, but most of the people who sneak in the country now, 40%. >> forty to 50%. forty to 50 percent of the people like him into this country and stayed illegally are here on student visas. john: illegal visas and then just she was there already in the country. >> they hang out and stay past their visa st

john: theorder fence to not cover the old border.smart smuggler is not going to go to where the security is. he will take the weak spot. john: lots of weak spots lik this and guarded tunnel that led him what t mexico. >> you are in mexico now. youe in violation. jo: even where the was fans, people vetiver. theyring ladders like this one we found lying right next to the fans', they cut holes inhe fence. this one has been passed, but it does not matter how high fencecs if you can cut holes in it. john: many ials are caught sneaking through, they are sent ba to mexo, many media the snk back tomerica. its where the jobs are, is man says. >> ne, two, three, four, five times. jo: fourears later, fewer cross illegally bause t mexin economymy has done better. we build bigger, stronr fences. john: a the border patrol now are here? >> oh, yes. john: an hour later they showed up. >> filmi a segment. i intend donald -- tenonnelly. john: afte that the left them alone. once more fences. >> is this your idealans? >> this is good. it forces people w

she can waive the fence. all throughout this bill we're letting a nonelected individual with power to undermine every aspect of any tooth in this bill. you know, when the immigration debate started my hope was that we would do the principle that most americans want us to do, which is we need to solve the problem of the undocumented in this country. we need to bring them out of the shadows. but the price to do that is cogent and realistic control of our borders. and let me make a point. if in fact you don't have cogent and realistic control of your borders and do everything else in this bill and everything works as the authors want it to work guess who's going to be coming across the border? the very people we actually don't want here. the drug runners the human smugglers, the criminals the terrorists. so when i say 90% operational control of the border and i'm in oklahoma, people look at me and they are askance. they say well, that means 10% of the people are still coming. and guess what makes up that 10%. th

once more fences. >> is this your ideal fans? >> ts is good.forces people w wantt to smuggle something to go to a high point where law-enforcement border patrol ents can easil see they have been interdicted. we ought t secure it. john: a problem with the current fans. >> here is this biggeffective miti dance. impervious, scalable. then all the suddenn it just hands. is right here is absurd. >> despite the billions we have spent, there are still lots of balls in the fen. especially the older part. >> ts looks like a pretty good-sized already your. >> this is an area that we have volunteers who came down with welding track and well that up these holes. i mean, it is patchwo. >> i'm touching mexico. john: not that hard to get over the fence. drug dealers build ramps. this carappens to get stuck. kennedy found it was pretty easy to climb the fence. >>ou could totally get over this. john: in fact, there were >> pointy. >> easiir to cross from the other side. jjhn: thank you for going there and clely there are problems with both sounds. but proponent

that 20 or 30 foot high fence made of steel and concrete. that is the physical thing that you see in this picture. that is the structure there that separates evelyn from her mom in this photo. evelyn is on the american side of the fence, her mom is on the mexican side. before this picture was taken yesterday, evelyn had not seen her mom for more than six years. she's 24, she had not seen her mom since she was a teenager. evelyn is called a dreamer, someone who grew up in this country and has never really known any other country in her whole life. she does not have legal status here. evelyn's mom yolonda was deported after being pulled over in a routine traffic stop in florida more than six years ago. evelyn cannot leave the united states to see her mom, if she left she would not be allowed back into the united states. and her mom obviously cannot enter the united states to see her daughter either because she was deported and she's barred from coming back. a pro immigration reform group called united we dream raised donations to pay for their

. >> there's a fence around that backyard. obviously not a deterrent for the bear because the bear got over it to get on top of that play house roof. there's the bear. we see the bear get down from the roof of the playhouse. kind of leisurely walking around in the grass in this backyard in this heavily populated area. >> this is, according to reports, a bear cub that they think was about 150 to 175 pounds. still a sizable bear. as you can see, that bear has wandered over to the fence. >> hey, get inside your house! >> you see a brief moment where that bear is climbing over the fence. [ screaming ] >> they all run into the simkus household. t.j.'s mom said about 15 neighborhood kids ended up inside her house. they were obviously terrified and thrilled all that once. this was a big day for them. >> now, according to police, this bear ended up causing a problem a few days later in the week. they ended up having to call the pennsylvania game commission. they called in a sharpshooter who shot this bear cub with a tranquilizer. the

i don't know how he is about fencing in arizona.me more fencing, and there are areas where it is absolutely necessary. and, look, all of these things that succeed are a series of compromises without departing from principle. and this principle is that we increase border security, we have a system that makes sure that we verify people who are in this country illegally before they can get a job and do a humane but tough path for people to become citizens. all of that requires compromise, and i'm confident that we can get this done because the fact is that there's, as you saw my rather calm statement on the floor of the senate, there are 11 million people who are in this country illegally, and they're here in de facto amnesty. i say that to one side, and being exploited and mistreated in many ways without the protections that ordinary citizens have. that's why i think they need a legal status, but a tough, tough path to citizenship. jon: we saw the difference in viewpoints between yourself and texas senator john cornyn. what about the

we're going to build a fence. we all voted for a fence. then no, we're not going to build a fence. we've pwot -- got a better idea. then we spent $1 billion and got zero for it. this is not necessary. we can make great improvements at the border if we have the will to do so. the will and determination is what's lacking. proponents of the bill have repeatedly said this legislation contains the toughest border immigration enforcement measures in history. if that's the case, why is the bill weaker than current law? why is it weaker than in 2007, the bill that was offered and was rejected? congress overwhelmingly passed the mandate to build a fence in 2006 -- and i was engaged in that debate -- by 80-19 vote. with the support of then-senators biden and obama. vice president biden and president obama, they voted for it. it hadn't come close to have been built. i think we have 30 miles of fencing having been completed when the bill called for 700. if we had done that, we would be in a lot better place to ask the american people today let's be compassionate and see if we can't do somethin

of fencing. that's double the amount required in the underlying bill, which calls for 350 miles of fencing. 700 miles of fencing. that compares to about 42 miles of fencing we have in place right now. fourth, the secretary of homeland security must verify that the mandatory everify system has been implemented to enforce workplace laws so that illegal immigrants are not employed. and fifth, the electronic entry-exit identification system must be in place at all international airports and seaports in the united states where u.s. customs and border protections officers are currently deployed. so these are the requirements. these are the requirements, and they must be met before lawful permanent residency is allowed. no green cards other than for dreamers and blue card ag workers until these requirements are met. once again, simply put, we must secure the border first. that's what americans demand, and that's what we must do to get comprehensive immigration reform right. that's what this legislation

keep our eye on the fencing to the left. see all of the flashing? almost looks look fireworks. a power line has fallen down and arcing against the fence. >> geez. >> how volatile does that make the situation? because not only do you have that up against the metal, you're trying to fight this fire with water. you've got to cut that power source. >> and that's what they do, but they don't wait for the electric company to cut the power source. the firefighters cut the line themselves, with what they call a mechanical ax. >> wow! >> standing there, nipping at those lines, trying to at least cut the line shorter so firefighters aren't endangered by the energized fence. scary to see and kind of cool at the same time. >>> this video captured a car chase but not the kind where a cop chases a criminal. this one is an 18-year-old chases a bear. >> oh my god, oh my god, oh my god! it's a bear. >> danielle is in her car and chasing after this bear running through the neighborhood. >> is she trying to chase the bear out of the neighborhood to get out of the popule area and maybe backorest?

the inner fence is a stun fence, it's a nonlethal stun fence. the outside fence another 14-foot fence covered with razor ribbon. shaker alarm on the motion detector. in between the fences. so we think our perimeter is very, very secure for us. >> security is tight inside the perimeter as well. especially in the secured confinement unit which houses the prison's most violent and disruptive inmates. today internal affairs investigator frank littlejohn has been called to the unit to investigate a report that possible escape paraphernalia has been found inside a cell. >> last night an officer had looked inside of a cell and observed a sculpture object like a, we refer to them like a dummy-like object on a comment report. which is escape paraphernalia. so they conducted a shakedown of this guy's cell and during that cell search they also found an 11-foot rope. when you put the 11-foot rope with the sculpture of the face then that gives concerns that the guy might be planning a possible escape. >> this here is actually the head that was removed from t

we passed a secure fence act. it was never built, it was junior mined afterward. the only way you can trust these people if they secure the border, no legalization until the board is secure and then let's start talks on something else. >> there we go. >> they are not serious, they want undermine the rule of law and anything that legalizes is a path to citizenship, which is, of course, amnesty. >> congressman gomer, isn't it the law of the land from the 2006 right now? that we are supposed to build the fence, or has that been changed? >> that's exactly right. you may remember a couple of years ago or so secretary napolitano was unilaterally canceling the law passed by the congress, wasn't going to build the fence. i would trust my friend steve king over all of the love and affection flowing from democrats, trying to help the republican party, but the fact is, we love this country and know we need a secure border. the president can do it right now, and we are going to past one bill now and says resolve, the house will do nothing in the president finally secured the

>> well, it's a pretty tough fence. and it's not just a fence.use all kinds of devices, listening devialses that can find when people cross the border illegally in the future. and they can be apprehended and turned back. it's much tougher and much stronger using a lot of the new technology than the previous attempts. >> stephen: will there be more listening devices on the mexican border or in americans telephones that the nsa is listening in on. >> if we have our way, more on the border. >> stephen: tell me about the gang of eight. you're the leader of the gang of eight, aren't new. >> i guess john mccain and i have been called the two leaders of it, yes. >> stephen: are there other gangs on the senate floor like crypts or bloods? if you throw the wrong gang sign could john corni cut a bitch. >> no, these gangs are constructive gangs. we're trying to get democrats and republicans to come together and do some good things and if the more gangs we would be a better place. >> stephen: will senator marco rubio ultimately vote for the bill that marco r

he crawled over the fence to somebody's house. >> that is a fancy little one. >> right on the fence, eh. >> that is the homeowner while holding up water for the koala. >> i thought he would give the beer to the koala. >> i thought for a second, but no, he is responsible. >> cheers. >> and the koala holds the bowl up like, okay. thank you, mate. >> he is taking his time. >> the guy is standing there, and he says, hey, this bowl is heavy. >> all right. >> the bowl is too heavy. >> look at that. >> he figured it out. >> after the water, there is the kisses. >> what? kissed him right on the face. >> not just one time, but they get a couple of them in. >> you know what, they don't leave this poor little koala without water. they tape some sticks and rocks and you have water for the neighboring koala. >> he has thumb's up. check it out. >>> it's got four wheels and bright orange paint job. >> this shiny jeeb rubicon is known as stom per. >> and hear from the jeep owner how it brought help and hope to an oklahoma neighborhood devastated by a tornado. >> stomper has become quite the internet

a fence isn't that complicated the fact that the fence not being 100% built, shows they're not serious reason democrats want this is because it will help them electorally. the idiot argument that somehow hispanic that's live here goring to hate republicans more, look, every poll taken not only 30 million new illegals every poll says 80% of them are going to be voted for democrats if we don't give them amnesty they can't punish republicans so we're talking about 70% of 8.4 already of hispanic voters only and the argument is that they're gooding to dislike republicans more than not voting for us now. >> doub do you know what i don't understand? its like republicans are suckers and i don't trust the government. every time there is a talk of a tax increase and spending cuts you get the amnesty. never the border control. >> that is why patriotic house members position has got to be until the senate is in republican hands, prefr bli rubio-free, sorry, as you should know john boehner wants to pass amnesty because his idiot consultants are telling him it's going to be great for republicans hav

we passed a law to have 700 miles of double-wide fencing, double-layered fencing. this bill is weaker than that, and it has a specific provision that says the secretary napolitano does not have to build any fence if she choose not and she's publicly said she has enough fencing. the reason this bill is in trouble, the reason the amendment was thrown in here at the last minute was because the promises weren't fulfilled, and this legislation, this amendment doesn't fulfill its promises, either, frankly. we're going to have amnesty first, no enforcement in the future. we're going to have continued illegality, at least 75% according to the c.b.o. report. and c.b.o. concludes that the legal immigration will be dramatically increased and we'll have, in addition to that, we're going to have lower wages and higher unemployment according to the c.b.o. analysis of this bill. why would any member of congress want to vote for a bill at a time of high unemployment, fall wages, to bring in a huge surge of new labor that can only hurt the poorest among us at the moment. >> schieff

>> i mean, it could be, as i said, it could get fence sitters off the fence. again, we are coming toward the end of the spring season that was lackluster when it came to sales. there's such low inventory out there that is pushing prices higher. this is not the sales season we expected to see, despite the fact that we saw a rise in prices. >> coming up, another issue for consumers a rash of car recalling and what it means for car buyers. >>> a big blow more apple and a win for samsung. the u.s. trade commission is banning one version of an ipad and iphone sold by at&t, saying that apple's technology violates patents held by samsung. >> iphones, ipads, samsung galaxies, as physical objects they are mostly glass, metal and plastic, worth no more than a couple bucks. but the design and engineering that makes them work and makes them pretty? that is worth billions. and that is why samsung and apple, are at each other's throats in court and with regulators. yesterday, the u.s. international trade commission ruled in favor of samsung, saying that apple violated wirel

we didn't get the fence. we wasted a billion dollars on a failed technology and didn't build the fence that was promised. and this is why the american people are not confident that anything politicians tell them about immigration particularly will ever happen. and the american people are right. time and again, politicians have promised, promised, promised and never delivered, delivered, delivered and that's just a fact. this bill and these statements say a lot, i think. with regard to senator cornyn's amendment that would add 5,000 agents and do some other thing, this is what senator schumer said back in the committee in may, just last month. "and what we've learned, and it was hit home to me when senator flake and senator mccain took me to arizona portion of the border, it's vast. we have more people on the border patrol. what's the number? 21,000. i think it was triple what it was five years ago. but you can't have -- if you want to have the whole federal budget, you guys figure out how you're going to spen

we have spent 36 miles of double fencing of a 2,000-mile border.have never had a barrier that was ever tested. >> bret: this amendment say it would double 350 miles of fencing already deployed to 700 miles of fencing. >> that's single strand which does not work. >> the big problem is people flying in the country and oversaying their visas. >> that's 40% right there. this border thing is just ridiculous. this wall thing. it's like -- >> bret: we are going to talk about this wall thing and a lot of other things all week long on this debate. thank you very much. by the way, the senate floor 67-26, will he that alexander arriving from the airport voting aye. stay tuned for a surprise visitor during a local weather report. that means your smartphone, her blackberry, his laptop, mark's smartphone... but i'm still on vacation... ...stilln the plan. nice! so is his tablet, that guy's hotspot, thentern's tablet. the intern gets a tablet? everyone's devices. his, hers, oh sorry... all easier to manage on the share everything plan for small business. connecti

the fence was supposed to be built since 2006. let me read a section from this bill to show border security is not queen shurd. page 35 line 24 and it says nothing in the subsection shall require the secretary, meaning janet napolitano, to install fencing in a particular location in the southern border. if the secretary determines that the use or placement of those resources is not the most appropriate means to achieve and maintain effective control over the southern border doesn't have to do it. so what's the point? there is no security, am i wrong? >> you're exactly right. this bill has roughly 1,000 waivers written into it, hands it all over to janet napolitano and says use your discretion to decide what to waive. it's designed to never to happen. there's a sharp contrast between this bill and the amendment i introduced that would have put really teeth into border security and would have secured the border first. this bill weakens and i'm talking about the amendment we voted on today, weakens current law regarding a border fenc

it's my fence, and it's my property.matter of fact, if i can't get this up i'm just going to reach over and paint -- >> no, you're not. >> it's my fence. i can do whatever i want. >> you can't -- >> well. >> surprisingly, it's the neighbor who calls the police. the police order her to remove the sign and they tell angie to get a "no trespassing" warrant to prevent the neighbor from coming only her property. angie gets the warrant, but she also gets revenge. she posts the video on youtube. >> i don't think i could have written a better script. but carry on. >> i didn't expect anyone to look at the video. in fact, i put it on there for my friends and family because they really didn't believe me, i think, how bad it was. i figured it was entertaining at best and maybe she would -- maybe she would embarrass her and she would leave us alone. >> believe it or not, angie and her neighbor have made up. angie has since moved away and moved on with her life but says if she ran into the neighbor today, you'd see a reunion quite unl

are there fences, barbed wire? what? >> yeah. all of the above. we have a fencing system.eally outside. there's no trees, no shrubs to hide behind. there's a blank area. there's bright lights. if you come here at 10:00 it will be you're like at a movie theater it's so bright. well, probably not a movie theater, that's kind of dark. but it's pretty bright. spotlights. and our officers walk every 25 minutes in a circle and check everybody there. that's the first line of defenses, the officer making sure that everybody that's supposed to be there is there. you've got to get down this long narrow hallway. you've got to get through the big steel doors you got through and there's another door behind that one. you've got to wait for it to close. there's a lot of different safety levels you have to go through. >> the biggest clue, the biggest giftaway something's going to happen is when you have a lot of eyes on you. you'll be sitting there watching your housing unit and you'll notice every inmate's watching you. that's because they're looking out, they're trying to see what you'r

we didn't get the fence. we wasted a billion dollars on a failed technology and didn't build the fence that was promised. and this is why the american people are not confident that anything politicians tell them about immigration particularly will ever happen. and the american people are right. time and again, politicians have promised, promised, promised and never delivered, delivered, delivered and that's just a fact. this bill and these statements say a lot, i think. with regard to senator cornyn's amendment that would add 5,000 agents and do some other thing, this is what senator schumer said back in the committee in may, just last month. "and what we've learned, and it was hit home to me when senator flake and senator mccain took me to arizona portion of the border, it's vast. we have more people on the border patrol. what's the number? 21,000. i think it was triple what it was five years ago. but you can't have -- if you want to have the whole federal budget, you guys figure out how you're going to spen

building the border fence or improving the existing fence makes sense on some locations but may not make sense and others. san of senate seat euro -- providesome say it benefits. is gambler, the gao questioning the effectiveness of the fence and that question has been raised for number of years. >> in our work we did find that dhs had not taken steps to assess or quantify the contribution that fencing is making to border security and we recommended they conduct a cost analysis to do that. >> if congress were to do decide to do double the size of the fence or add hundreds of additional miles, how would the department determine where to build that extra fence? >> i do not know how they would determine where to build the fence but they do have analysis to determine what contribution something is making to border security efforts. that would be an important question going forward. >> i am guessing it makes sense to add fencing to some and a total waste for others. >> that would be for the department of homeland security to determine. sound like some areas would be a good investment and other