frieden, thank you so much for joining us. as you watch the numbers of new case, the numbers of hospitalizations in the u.s. tick back up toward previous highs, how concerned are you about what will unfold during the coming weeks and months as we approach winter here? >> well, wolf, it's extremely concerning. what we're seeing is an up surge throughout most of the u.s., and the increases continue. not only the levels high but they're increasing and although the focus is on the number of diagnosed cases, the best estimate is there are roughly five times as many infections each day as diagnosed cases. what that really tells us is that we are, yes, turning the corner and into a tsunami of an increase in cases, hospitalizations and deaths. >> what do we need to do to try to stop that? >> there's a lot we can do, but one thing we have to understand is it's not one thing. masks are important, but it's not only maskings. a vaccine is important but we're still going to have a pandemic. there's no fairy tale end to go this pandemic but

frieden mentioned, to the common flu. that is not the case. but the president's social media presence is just the tip of the iceberg with an entire amplification ecosystem of both right wing media, influencers, conspiracy communities, they're engaged on this and that convergence takes these information narratives and makes them more mainstream. >> woodruff: dr. frieden, when we see, for example, this week reports that the white house turned down an offer from the c.d.c. to help with contact tracing after this big outbreak at the white house, what are we to make of that? >> this was such a teachable moment, one that testing alone doesn't prevent spread of covid, you need a comprehensive policy. the white house got too reliant on testing, that's why may have they have an outbreak there. two, that someone who's sick needs to isolate. three, that everyone who is exposed needs to be quarantined so thaw don't spread it to others. this could have been a great teachable moment to explain what we can do to get ahead of the virus. instead, we see delaye

frieden said and others, this is doable.t now and should have, and in some parts of the country, the appropriate things are being down, when your leadership is working against you and the virus, the virus has an ally that makes it a pretty strong contender. >> dr. besser, let me stay with this theme. we mentioned at the top, we asked viewers the question, do you trust the cdc for covid-19 information? why or why not? the majority so far said no. one viewer tweeted, i feel the integrity of the cdc has been compromised by the lackadaisical attitude. any other administration, yeah, now, no, i noknow you heard it before, rich, how much are you concerned that the erosion of trust will last? and how will the cdc get that trust back in your mind? >> it cuts to the core when you read things like that, and you see intense after intense of political interference of one's work. i think it can be regained, where cdc where it's clear there is a firewall between the work that cdc is doing and the political level that would be attainable,

frieden, i appreciate it. dr. gupta, sanjay, thank you very much. next, more on the breaking news from the supreme court that jim acosta mentioned, involving the swing state of pennsylvania. more, as well, on the debate commission's decision just announced on microphones and interruptions. >>> and later, just days after the alleged plot to kidnap michigan's governor, the president is basking in calls from his supporters to lock her up. we will talk about it with michigan's attorney general. before we talk about tax-smart investing, what's new? -well, audrey's expecting... -twins! grandparents! we want to put money aside for them, so...change in plans. alright, let's see what we can adjust. ♪ we'd be closer to the twins. change in plans. okay. mom, are you painting again? you could sell these. lemme guess, change in plans? at fidelity, a change in plans is always part of the plan. because i want to be a part of something amazing. - i know my gift to shriners hospitals for children makes a difference in the lives of children. - our support gives kids

frieden, thank you so much for joining us. as you now know the cdc, which you used to lead, is warning that small family gatherings are a growing source of the coronavirus spread. does the news, for example, that the president's teenage son barron also had the virus illustrate the agency's warnings about just how easily this virus spreads, especially among families, especially as so many families are getting ready for thanksgiving? >> we know this is a really contagious virus. it's both more readily spread than flu is and it's deadlier by far than influenza is. that's why it's so important to do the simple things. wear a mask, watch your distance, wash your hands. and the indoor crowded spaces, that's where the virus can spread like wildfire. and even though some people will do fine, in fact, the vast majority of people will do fine, because so many get -- so many people get it you're going to have many deaths when you have many infections. >> what is so disturbing, dr. frieden, right now when we look at the big picture of how

frieden, right now? >> well, we're failing. covid has the upper hand. cases are increasing in most of the country, though there are parts of it, including much of the northeast, where the numbers are much lower. but we're seeing an increase in hospitalizations. they increased from 30,000 people admitted to almost 45,000. that's a 50% increase. we're beginning to see an increase in deaths. it is inevitable that if you let the virus spread, it will spread among states, it will spread among communities, it will spread to seniors and following the case increase, our hospitalization increases, and tragically increases, further increases in the number of deaths. >> there's growing evidence, dr. frieden, that hospitals as you pointed out in so many hot spots are simply overwhelmed with patients right now. how much of an impact does that have on the level of care that doctors and nurses are able to offer, not just those who have covid but who come into the hospital with other ailments? >> we see a lot of problem when hospitals begin to get overwhelmed. first of

frieden raises a really good point. in -- in the three nights that he was at walter reed, i don't have the actual death toll how many americans died of covid-19. but none of them were receiving the -- the experimental treatments with a team of doctors like this president has had assembled. and again, he's the president of the united states. he should get the best health care. but so should everybody else. >> sure. >> and, you know, that -- his experience is -- is different than every other covid patient out there. >> well, let me just parse a little bit from his video that he did tonight. because it's sort of stunning to me, and i think it speaks to your point. he said i stood out front. i led. nobody that's a leader would not do what i did. i know there's a risk. there is a danger. that's okay. and now, i'm better and, maybe, i'm immune. is he talking about the risk he took in taking the regeneron drug? is he talking about the risk he took in -- in the other drugs he's on? is he talking about the risk he took in going

tom frieden, the former director of the centers for disease control and prevention. dr. frieden thank you so much for joining us through these new guidelines from the fda removing the political pressure on vaccine development, the entire process, now that authorization before election day is off the table. >> that's the way it looks. it's encouraging, frankly, if this holds because what it means is there aren't going to be shortcuts on safety. and the risk here is that one of the companies might have said, hey, it works, let's give it to people, let's make a big announcement but that would have been done before the people who had gotten the vaccine had had time to have adverse reactions or even before we had known that the protection, if it protects, lasts a long time. so this is a step forward, this is a step that should help with cnfidence for a vaccine if, as i say, if it holds. >> you have to make sure that a vaccine that's going to go to tens of millions, maybe 100 million or 300 million people here in the united states and indeed all around the world it's not only

certainly betty frieden was jewish. and i'm jewish. [laughter] there is betty frieden. why so many jewish women -- why this is the case is just a interesting question. i don't know. maybe it's because there a kind of marginality that jewish women particularly of this generation experience, that they draw upon that underlies their feminism. also, there are arguments that a period in which, after an immigrant jewish generation in which men and women, husbands and wives join together to bring their families into the american dream. now we entry the 1950's and sort of the mad men period. where the next generation of jewish men eager to assimilate to american society are, how shall i say this, they are not as committed to, and linked to the mutuality of their relationship with jewish women. it is possible there is a kind of that jewish women of this , generation understand about this basis. lee: the question why do you , think the british suffragists were more prone to use violent methods their cause? for their cause? also, with their connections between these movements befo

tom frieden. thanks for being here all of you. carol over the course of 55 minutes the president seemed to have a lot to get off his chest, includes dropping out apparently of next week's debate. >> for now, hallie, the president saying that the debate in a virtual format is just not worth his time. he even suggested in this interview with fox business that that sort of format might not allow him to dominate, to interrupt in the way that we saw him do in the first debate. take a listen to what he had to say. >> no, i'm not going to waste my time on a virtual debate. that's not what debating's all about. you sit behind a computer and do a debate, they cut you off. they're trying to protect biden. everybody is. >> now this is a decision that the commission of presidential debates made on its own. it did not consult the campaigns about this. they informed the campaigns before making that announcement publicly but the campaigns didn't have a choice in this and the president is saying now that instead of going to this debate for now th

thomas frieden. dr. frieden, i mean, it's obviously dishonest.the trump campaign is using dr. fauci's words out of context? certainly, for somebody who has a high level of credibility, it seems to undermine that. >> well, anderson, i can't comment on the politics of it. but if we just look at factually, it's very clear that what dr. fauci was saying is not what the campaign wants that to be construed as. you really can't say, with a straight face, that the administration has done everything it could to stop covid. no one, who understands public health or covid, would say that. in fact, the record of this administration is of colossal failure. even now, eight months in, there's no national plan. there is no common understanding of where we are. and there's not the existence of frank and effective communication. those are the three most important things to run the response to an epidemic. and all three of them have been really lacking in the federal response. so it's clear, whatever the politics of it, that dr. fauci's comment does not refer to act

tom frieden, former cdc director, dr. anne rimone, zeke emmanuel, bob costa with "the washington post" and nbc's mike memoli. he joins us from grand rapids where vice president biden was scheduled to campaign today. geoff, good news about vice president pence, but tell us about that and who else might be at risk and what we know about the president. does he have symptoms? >> i'll start with what you said about vice president mike pence. it's a positive sign that he and the second lady karen pence have tested negative. this is according to the vice president's press sngt. that's a positive sign from a continuity of government perspective. but as we've come to learn over the last seven or eight months of this pandemic, one negative test is a good sign but it's not a final one. the pences will continue to be tested. but to your other question, the contact tracing that the white house is doing, according to a white house official, you would imagine is just a herculean effort in large part because of the great many people pres

strategies doctor frieden thanks for being here with us.take to reach herd immunity and is this strategy plausible or preposterous? >> this is not just a bad idea. it's a dead wrong idea. i think we can all understand that the more infections there are the worst shape we're in. we're currently losing the battle against covid but we can win it we can turn this around. we're not going to do that by waving the white flag saying let's let it rip. that's what this group is saying basically will the young people get the infection let's protect the vulnerable. it sounds logical but it will fail. what we say starts in the young doesn't stay in the young and there are young people who get severely ill. every infection is a step backward so encouraging infection to stop an pandemic is not wrong but dead wrong. arthel: i understand you're very much against that notion. but how many more people would are we talking about who would need to become infected with the coronavirus in order to achieve herd immunity not to mention how many more might die? >> l

tom frieden, always good to have you here.us smarter, better and hopefully safer every time we see it. >>> now to the latest not just on coronavirus. the health aspect, but on the economic aspect. the coronavirus relief package that is currently stalled in congress. remember, last night president trump said he's ready to go. it's nancy pelosi. that's not the case. mitch mcconnell telling reporters in his home state of kentucky that he would not put a new relief bill up for a vote on the senate floor and that it all but destroys any hopes that a package is currently being negotiated between the white house and democrats will be passed before election day. the comments come despite a more than hour long talk between secretary mnuchin and nancy pelosi yesterday. each call they have sounds positive and then goes nowhere. and as each day passes without a new relief package, more and more americans are facing hunger, eviction from their homes, unemployment, and loss of their private health care coverage. joining us now is democratic

frieden, you ran the cdc. how is this contrary -- how do you think this country could handle this pandemic differently with president trump's now firsthand knowledge of the drugs and of the severity of the types of symptoms? could it for instance speed up regulatory approval the use for antibodies which is not approved >> the company will have to develop data and show whether it works. they have got one company that looks at 275 people in an uncontrolled fashion we need to know, does it work and is there enough of it? antibodies are a very promising treatment, so we hope they'll be available for people, and i hope this will emphasize to people that covid can be very serious, and we hope the president will get fully better very quickly, but a lot of people aren't, and, in fact, if you think about a simple number, thursday, the day he became ill with the disease or was diagnosed with the virus, probably 200,000 other americans also got the virus that day. we were diagnosing about 40,000 a day, and five times tha

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. >>> joining us, former cdc director tom frieden, one of my favorite experts.cord 90,000 cases in one day. that's huge. what could that translate to in terms of hospitalizations and deaths in a week or two? >> well, think of it very straightforward. actually that's only about 1 out of every 5 patients who get infected. we're only diagnosing about 1 out of 5 infections. that means that there's a diagnosed case every second, five actual cases every second means that more than one death per minute in the coming weeks. we'll see a decrease in cases over the weekend. that always happens because of less testing, but we're on the upswing. unfortunately, the harvest of months of failure is going to be weeks and weeks of much harder days and nights fighting covid. >> president trump said deaths are going way down. they're going away. people aren't dying anymore. >> deaths are increasing. they lag cases by a few weeks. it takes a week or two for hospitalizations to increase after cases increase. also what we're seeing is a lot of the spread started in younger people but

deaths by the end of october that stark warning today coming from a former cdc director doctor tom frieden says that this projection is based on the number of infections already confirmed. >>meanwhile, the university of washington school of medicine. projects the death toll here in the u.s. could double to about 400,000 by february. the model predicts daily deaths will peak at about 2300 in mid-january. >>president trump says he is you to the coronavirus but health experts say there is no definitive evidence that having covid-19 antibodies protects you from catching covid again today the president's doctor released a statement saying that trump has tested negative on consecutive days. doctor conley says the president is no longer infectious trump's campaign schedule has him traveling nearly every day until the election, beginning tonight in florida where he is having a rally tonight. he just said that he is not contagious anymore and said he wants to go into the crowd and kiss everybody he said quote kiss the guys and kiss the beautiful women just give them a big fat kiss of course. >>turn

doctor tom frieden says that this projection is based on the number of infections already confirmed. meanwhile, the university of washington school of medicine projects, the death toll in the u.s. could double to about 400,000 by february the model predicts daily deaths will peak at about 2300 in mid-january. and president trump now claims that he is immune from the coronavirus this despite health experts saying that there's no definitive evidence that having covid-19 antibodies protects you from catching it again. it has been 11 days since president trump tested positive. his doctor says president trump is no longer a risk to spread the virus. trump's campaign schedule has him traveling nearly every day until the election. beginning tonight when he is holding a campaign rally in florida. >>for your money tonight, it is now looking even more unlikely that congress will be able to pass a new stimulus deal before the election. the white house sent a letter to congress asking to redirect about 130 billion dollars for the paycheck protection program. this comes after both republicans and

to spread would lead to an enormous number of deaths well let's get more on this now with dr tom frieden he's president and chief executive of the u.s. group resolve to save lives and former head of the u.s. centers for disease control and prevention between 20092017 sorry it's a real pleasure to have you here on al-jazeera thank you so much for joining us to join us live from new york so you've heard i guess my explanation there where do you stand on the role of herd immunity do you think there is a role for it in the various countries approach to dealing with covert 19. first let me make something clear this is not a scientific disagreement there is close to unanimity that the idea of letting the infection run rampant and protecting the vulnerable is a delusion it's a dangerous idea it is bizarre it is not scientifically supported and it would result in hundreds of thousands of percent preventable deaths in the united states and millions of preventable deaths lobel e. you know you see this often you saw it with tobacco you see it with climate where you have 99 scientists saying one thi

doctor tom frieden says that the projection is based on the number of infections already confirmed. meanwhile, the the university, a washington school of medicine projects the death toll in the u.s. could double to about 400,000 by february. the model predicts a daily deaths will peak at about 2300 mid-january. and president trump claims that he is immune from the coronavirus health experts say that there's no definitive evidence that having covid-19 antibodies protects you from catching coronavirus again keep in mind that it's been 11 days since president trump tested positive. his doctor has not said if he has since tested negative. but his doctor did say that president trump is no longer a risk to spread the virus trump's campaign schedule has him traveling nearly every day until election day beginning today in florida. and now one of the experimental drugs that was used to treat the president has now running trials all across the country people are actually been and being injected with an antibody treatment from the company regeneron. others were given a placebo so far none of t

tom frieden: >> the pauses in the trials i find somewhat encouraging because it tells me that they're looking really carefully. >> reporter: more americans are looking with caution. a recent gallup poll shows the number willing to get a vaccine has dropped 16 points from july to september. >> i think all of this politics is making people suspicious. we don't want politics in a shot that we're going to get. we want good medicine in that shot. >> reporter: and that will take time. meg oliver, cbs news, patterson, new jersey. >> o'donnell: so with no vaccine and covid cases surging, is the u.s. headed for another shutdown? cbs news chief medical jon lapookent dr. jon lapook asked dr. anthony fauci for this asked dr. anthony fauci for this sunday's "60 minutes." >> how bad would things have to get for you to advocate a national lockdown? >> they would have to get really, really bad. first of all, the country is fatigued with restrictions. so we want to use public health measures, not to get in the way of opening the economy, but to being a safe gateway to opening the economy. so instead o

certainly betty frieden was jewish. and i've jewish. [laughter] -- i am jewish.ughter] women -- whyewish this is the case is just a question. i don't know. maybe it's because there a kind of marginality that jewish women of this generation experience, that they draw upon that underlies their feminism. also, there are arguments that this is also a. whichs is also a time in there is an immigrant jewish generation in which men and women, husbands and wives join together to bring their families into the american dream. now we entry the 1950's and sort of mad men. which the next generation of jewish men eager to assimilate to american are, how shall i say this, they are not as committed to the mutuality of their relationship with two jewish women. it is possible there is a kind -- that jewish women of this generation understand about sexism on the spaces. why do you think the british suffragists were more prone as violent methods to their cause? also, with their connections between these movements before ellis paul? professor dubois: good question. this question raise

the cdc director tom frieden said, the threat to cove a control from protesting outside is tiny comparedo the threat to cobit control created when governments active way that boost community trust. it's amusing and a better way. losing community trust? that happened the day that they claimed protesters were safe and hours worked. we knew for a fact that they were lying for partisan reasons and these people should never be in charge of anything ever again. but they stayed in charge. now they are telling us we can't have confirmation hearings for amy call me barrett on october 12 because it's too dangerous. coronavirus, clinical obesity, 209,00209,000 data, whatever. as a matter of science, donald trump is not allowed to appoint anyone to the supreme court. >> there's no reason that they shouldn't be delayed. >> i don't know why he would ramp through the supreme court hearing and put people in danger because it would be within that two week period, while you have's shut down the whole senate. i just think it's wrong. >> sadly three of my colleagues have been diagnosed as having the virus.

former cdc director tom frieden says that number could be even higher. >> if you die from cancer ando have diabetes, you still died from cancer. if you died from covid and you also had diabetes, you died from covid. covid does affect older people much, much more than younger people. and many older people have lots of other health problems. that ends up on the death certificate. >> for health metrics and evaluation out of the university of washington predicting that the u.s. death toll could reach almost 395,000 by february, with daily death hitting 2,300 by mid-january. >> we're expecting both cases and, unfortunately, deaths to really surge as we head into late november and december. probably peak sometime in january. >> reporter: and with cold weather months approaching, health officials strengthening the important of wearing a mask. >> every little bit of increased mask wearing is going to save lives. >> reporter: as a vaccine is still in development. >> for a vaccine to actually work, it's got to not only be safe and effective but also be accessible and trusted. >> reporter: many

tom frieden reminds all of us, the public health precautions we've come to practice are still going tocessary for some time. >> we're still going to need to adjust our lives, reduce risk by wearing masks, not shaking hands, reducing risky indoor gatherings. >> and eventually that's how you contain this virus. misconception two. the flu shot will make you more susceptible to covid-19. we've seen this argument being pushed on social media, even claiming there's a study to back it but the study that's being referred to as published last year, before the novel coronavirus even existed, and it suggested the flu vaccine might be linked to an increase risk of season seasonal coronaviruses like the one that cause the common cold. the author clarified saying "results from this study should not be applied to or interpreted with covid-19 in any way." truth is, it's even more important this year to get a flu vaccine. misconception three. masks don't stop the spread of the coronavirus. >> i hope every one of you gets voted out who votes for a mask here today. >> reporter: when a mask mandate was or

the former cdc director tom frieden told cnn over the weekend that a second wave is not inevitable but added the new cases mean a lot of tragedy is coming in the next few weeks. >> the only thing that's really inevitable is what's going to happen in the next couple of weeks, and from the infections that have already occurred, we will see something like 20,000 deaths by the end of the month. additional deaths. anytime we ignore, minimize or underestimate this virus, we do so at our peril, and the peril of people whose lives depend on us. we still have within ourselves, our communities, our society, the ability to turn this around. when you look around the world, the parts of the world and parts of the u.s. that have been guided by public health have done better. >> reporter: his words about the urgent need to follow infection mitigation guidelines ring especially true in new york city. this was once the worst place in america for the pandemic. but in recently months, it's seeing those numbers come way way down, and the picture has been pretty good, until recent weeks, that is. numbers a

doctor tom frieden says that this projection is based on the number of infections already confirmed.le, the university of washington school of medicine projects, the death toll in the united states could double to about 400,000 by february the model predicts daily deaths will peak at about 2300 in mid-january and here's a look at the latest numbers around the world more than a million lives have been lost because of this pandemic in the united states more than 214,000 people have died in california close to 17,000 deaths and here in the bay area where the 1600 lives have been lost because of covid-19 governor gavin newsom gave an update today on california's covid-19 status kron four's noelle bellow has more on why state officials say contact tracing is so important lot of work has been put in this place not as much attention. >>perhaps is deserved governor gavin newsome used monday's press conference to tout the nearly 11,000 person contact tracing army, the state has built over the last 7 months. >>all dedicated to making sure one positive test doesn't turn into 10 or 20 i talk to

the cdc, at least the former director of the cdc tom frieden saying, yes, testing that's essentiallyd. but it does not replace the safety measures that americans should still be taking here. of course, the handwashing, the social distancing and, of course, the mask wearing as well. >> reporter: president trump working from maryland's walter reed medical center where he was flown friday night out of abundance of caution according to the white house. the president dealing with mild symptoms according to officials and received an experimental regeneron antibody cocktail on friday. half the states from vermont and nevada are experiencing upward trends in the virus. wisconsin where president trump was expected to hold a rally cancelled because of the diagnosis reported more than 2700 new cases on friday. further west, colorado experiencing it's highest rate of hospitalization since august. and in ohio, the presidential debates, an alarmi ining rise governor to governor mike dewine. the republican governor describing the president's diagnosis as a reminder the virus does not discriminate.

tom frieden warning it's inevitable another 20,000 americans will die from coronavirus by the end ofnth. let that sit in for a moment. he also says the true number of u.s. coronavirus deaths is actually much more than the reported 214,000. he said he believes it's actually well over 250,000. now, all of this comes as doctors fear that we are already seeing signs of that dreaded second wave. for the first time since august the u.s. has reported four consecutive days of more than 50,000 new daily coronavirus cases. cnn's evan mcmorris in new york city where there has also been an uptick, esche. . >> reporter: that's right, erica. city and state leaders here have been trying to paint a rosy picture of things for months now. and it's easy to see why. let me show you this chart that shows how things looked in the summer. we had a nice, steady -- the numbers came way down from april when it was really, really bad. it was a nice, steady summer. started to go back up again at the end of september. now we're at the place where the statewide infection rate is below 1%, but there are areas in t

tom frieden speaking earlier at a cnn town hall says that's why so many americans have died. >> the death rate is a fact. it's a tragedy. and we need not to get hardened to the reality that these are health care workers, these are mothers and fathers and brothers and sisters, and it's going on every day. we are having 1,000 more deaths. next month we're going to have 20,000 more deaths in the u.s. but we can turn this around if we understand that it's a matter of learning how to do one thing right, which is, follow the science. be guided by the facts. tell people what we know when we know it. work together. recognize we are all connected. you may not get sick at all from this, but you may spread it to someone who then dies or spreads it to someone else who dies. that's why we all have to recognize that we're in this together. there's only one enemy, and that's the virus. >> and dr. julie gerbeding also used to head the cdc. she said mixed messages from public officials are undermining americans' confidence in an eventual vaccine. >> americans can tolerate really tough truths. but it has t

. >> reporter: at a cnn town hall, former director tom frieden said the u.s.ditional 20,000 deaths by the end of october alone. and get this, in just the last seven days, 11 states have reported the most covid-19 cases in a week than they have ever since the pandemic. eric? eric: all right, charles, thanks so much. and a quick correction, i a moment ago said that the teenager who was shot and killed by police in milwaukee, he was armed, not unarmed. i apologize. arthel? arthel: a well, eric, it has been nearly nine months since the first coronavirus case was diagnosed and treated inside the continental united states. so what has the medical community learned about covid since then? let's ask the doctor who treated that very first patient back in january outside seattle. dr. george diaz is the section chief of infectious diseases at providence regional medical center in everett, washington. doctor, thanks so much for join ing us. tell us how diagnosis, treatment, knowledge about the virus has advanced in nine months. >> well, thank you for having me, arthel. th

but former cdc director tom frieden told cnn over the weekend that a second wave is not inevitable, but he added that the new cases mean a lot of tragedy is coming to this country in the coming weeks. >> the only thing that's really inevitable is what's going to happen in the next couple of weeks. from the infections that have already occurred, we will see something like 20,000 deaths by the end of the month, additional deaths. any time we ignore, minimize or underestimate this virus, we do so at our peril and the peril of the people whose lives depend on us. we still have the ability to turn this around. if you look around the world, the parts of the world and the parts of the u.s. guided by public health and supported by public health have done better. >> fredon's words about the urgent need to follow infection mitigation guidelines ring especially true here in new york city. this was once the hardest-hit place in america when it comes to the pandemic. but those numbers have dramatically improved in recent months. that's until recent weeks when a few new york city neighborhoods in bro

so expect 20,000 more covid-19 deaths by the end of the month doctor tom frieden says this projection is based on the number of infections already confirmed. meanwhile, the university of washington school of medicine projects, the toll, the death toll in the u.s. could double its about 400,000 by february. the model predicts daily deaths will peak at about 2300 in mid-january. for your money and is now looking even more unlikely that congress will pass a new stimulus deal before the election. the white house sent a letter to congress to redirect about a 130 billion dollars for the paycheck protection program. this comes after both republicans and democrats rejected the trump administration's one 0.8 trillion dollar proposal. house democrats say they want to pass a more comprehensive program. and on the peninsula, this man you see on your screen is accused of sexually assaulting his client in palo alto police say 27 year-old roy alberto melgar was working at the spine and therapy center when a woman in her 40's said he sexually assaulted her. according to the investigation says she did

>>by the end of this month doctor tom frieden says this is based on the number of infections that areng right now. the university of washington school of medicine projects, the death toll in the u.s. could be double it could be 400,000 people dying of covid by february that is predicting that the daily deaths will peak at about 2300 in mid january. meantime president trump says you from coronavirus because he had it but health experts say there's no definitive evidence that having covid means that you are prevented from catching it or giving it to anybody else. it's been 11 days since the president tested positive in his doctors won't say if he's tested negative. all they'll say is that he's no longer a risk to spread the disease so he's taking that as the go ahead to go ahead and spread out and travel throughout the country nearly every day until the election actually will be campaigning beginning today in florida. it's now looking even more unlikely that congress is going to pass a new stimulus deal before the election. the white house sent a letter to congress asking to redirect ab

>>doctor tom frieden says the projection is based on the number of current infections meantime universitychool of medicine projects the death toll the u.s. could double to 400,000 by february. the model predicts daily deaths will peak and about 2,300 daily deaths in mid-january. meantime president trump claims he is immune from the coronavirus because he got it even though health experts say there's no definitive evidence that having the virus and having antibodies makes you immune. it has been 11 days since the president tested positive in his doctor. still refuses to say if he has tested negative. but he is going on about his business and the president says that his doctors say he's no longer a risk for spreading and so he's out on the campaign trail, traveling nearly every day and fact until the election beginning today in florida. it's now looking even more unlikely that congress is going to pass a new stimulus deal before the election. the white house sent a letter to congress asking to redirect about a 130 billion dollars for the paycheck protection program. and this is republicans

doctor tom frieden said the projection is based on the number of infections already confirmed meanwhiley of washington school of medicine is projecting the death toll in the u.s. could double to about 400,000 by february. the model predicts daily deaths might perhaps peak at about 2300 per day in mid january. >>president trump now claims he's immune from the coronavirus health experts say that there's no definitive evidence that by having covid and recovering in the having antibodies protects you from catching again. >>it's been 11 days since the president tested positive and his doctor still won't say. if he's tested negative, but his doctors do say. >>they believe he is no longer a risk to spread covid so he is out spreading the word campaigning his schedule has him traveling nearly every day on right up until the election starting today in florida. and it's looking even more unlikely now that congress is going to pass a new stimulus deal before the election. the white house sent a letter to congress asking to redirect about a 130 billion dollars for the paycheck protection program. b

doctor tom frieden says this projection is based on the number of infections that have already been confirmedile, the university of washington school of medicine projects, the death toll here in the u.s. could double to about 400,000 by february the model predicts daily deaths will peak at about 2300 in mid-january. president trump. now claims that he is immune from the coronavirus health experts say there's no definitive evidence of course that having covid-19 antibodies actually protection fully from catching coronavirus again. it's been 11 days since president trump tested positive in his doctors haven't said if he has since tested negative but his doctors did say the president is. >>no longer a risk to spread the virus. trump's campaign schedule has of traveling nearly every single day until the election beginning today in florida. well it's now looking even more unlikely that congress will pass a new stimulus deal before the election. the white house sent a letter to congress asking to redirect about a 130 billion dollars for the paycheck protection program. this comes after both republi

doctor tom frieden says this projection is based on the number of infections that have already been confirmed. meanwhile the university of washington school of medicine projects, the death toll in the u.s. could double to about 400,000 by february. the model predicts daily deaths will peak at about 2300 in mid-january. >>president trump now claims that he is immune from the coronavirus health experts say that there's no definitive evidence that having covid antibodies protects you from catching the virus again. it's been 11 days since the president tested positive and they still will not. >>show or say whether he's tested negative sense. >>his has said that he is however not contagious and. >>he can go along with his business which he plans to do spreading the word about voting and hopefully not the coronavirus trump's campaign schedule has him traveling. nearly every day until the election beginning today in florida. it's now looking even more unlikely that congress is going to pass us new stimulus for coronavirus before the election. the white house sent a letter to congress asking to redir

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tom frieden -- >> the pauses in the trials, i find somewhat encouraging because it tells me that theyre looking really carefully. >> reporter: more americans are looking with caution. a recent gallup poll shows the number willing to get a vaccine has dropped 16 points from july to september. >> while trials are ongoing, companies are beginning to ramp up production with government help. however, a wide scale distribution for the public t wouldn't happen until at least next spring or summer. for cbs this morning saturday, meg oliver, paterson, new jersey. >>> cbs news medical contributor dr. david agus is here with more on this. david, you have seen the poll. half of americans say they're not confident about taking this vaccine. so should they? should americans be confident? >> the answer is, i don't know yet. we have to see the data. it's very hard when you see these polls. there can be nobody advocating yet for a vaccine because we have to advocate with the data. here's the data, how it works. here's the safety data, and based on those, myself and i think many other doctors will stan

tom frieden from the centers of disease control and convention. give our viewers an update. we just received word the travel pool has been called. they were at the white house. they've been called to walter reed medical center this just coming into us. we don't know why. could be an update from the doctors. but the details are not there yet. but the pool is heading over to walter reed medical center. we'll see what update we'll see. as far as the treatment the president has received what does it tell you how he is progressing and recovering from this virus? >> a few things. first the fact that he needed supplemental oxygen suggests he does have a moderately severe case of covid. otherwise you wouldn't have that drop in oxygen level. he has gotten four different treatments. oxygen, monoclonal antibodies. remdesivir and now dexamethasone or steroid. the first three are generally given early in the course of the illness. the antibodies are experimental but promising. remdesivir reduces the length of hospitalization and may improving outcomes. one tha

frieden.bama administration and is now the president and ceo of resolve to save lives. that's a global health initiative. dr. frieden, thank you so much for joining us on this really important morning. we want to get your perspective on how important it was, the decision to move president trump to walter reed. how important will that be to his recovery, do you think? >> well, there's no doubt that the responsible thing to do. we all wish the president and his family well and for a speedy and full recovery. the fact that he received the monoclonal antibody cocktail yesterday is an experimental treatment, but it's a very promising one, particularly when given early in the course of disease. it was probably expected that he would receive remdesivir, as well. remdesivir, there's some evidence will delay or shorten the duration of illness and may improve outcomes. because the president is 74 and because of his weight, he is in an increased risk category, but really, even at that age, even with the