george mcgovern got a lot of good press early on because he was the underdog. humphrey was the underdog and he started getting a positive press. they were playing the same expectations game that mcgovern won in new hampshire. but he lost in california. everyone assumed he was going to win in a blowout, but it turned out to be very close. it nearly derailed his nomination. >>we are going to get into that a little bit more, but i want to first talk about dirty tricks. a couple of callers have brought that up. what were some of the dirty tricks happening in the campaign? >> most of them are in new hampshire. we have already talked about the thing that was done to muskie, but throughout the campaign, dirty tricks were integral to nixon's strategy because that is the way they did business. the whole watergate break-in was a manifestation of their desire not only to win, but to destroy the whole campaign, which was really personified by nixon himself. it was to decimate the opposition, not to take chances. it led to the exits we saw soon after the watergate break-in.

but there was one group that pulled the lever for george mcgovern. who was that? those are 1820-year-old voters. who are the groups that is barack obama's strongest opponent today quotes it is the exact same 1829-year-old voters going for george mcgovern in 1972. if you do the math, 1972 to 2012 is 40 years. a voter 18 tonight 29-year-old is 58 to 69 years old today. you cannot say what a kid is doing what is 18 to 29 will drive what he's doing in his 50s or 60s. a lot of changes go on. it may be the case. i'd be shocked if it was. i want to spend the last 10 minutes talking about the latino vote because it's incredibly important to our country's politics. and at the basis for a counterrevolution of thousands the 1960s and his famous book come in the emerging republican majority, kevin phillips noted that clubs have provided new level political consciousness for hispanic americans in texas to support the first roman catholic president. phillips estimated from 1960 to the 1972, mexican-americans gave 84% of their vote to democratic anchovies. this is critically imp

and romney can be, and they're going to say, no -- look, some of my friends are the left like george mcgoverni think this is a test of whether or not people have courage of their convictions. they honestly believe people of anger and rejection, that they're the majority. if they really believe that, they'll nominate gingrich. >> that was barney frank earlier this evening. i'm "the ed show." you can listen to me on channel 127 monday through friday. we'll originate the show on washington, d.c. tomorrow, and this show will comfrom the

and romney can be, and they're going to say, no -- look, some of my friends are the left like george mcgoverni think this is a test of whether or not people have courage of their convictions. they honestly believe people of anger and rejection, that they're the majority. if they really believe that, they'll nominate gingrich.

some said it about george mcgovern. this is a test whether or not the people have the courage of their convictions. they honestly believe in their rejection of serious public governing, they are the majority. and if they believe that, they will nominate gingrich. >> congressman barney frank, gate to have you with us. >> thank you, ed. >> get your cell phones out. tonight's question about the congressman has barney frank lived a good enough life to see newt gingrich be the gop nominee? text a for yes, b for no, to 622639, and go to the blog at ed.msnbc.com. >>> the stakes couldn't be higher. what can we expect from tonight's nbc news republican debate in florida? christ chris matthews will join us. how much will romney and gingrich teach each other apart -- tear each other apart toward the nomination. we will be right back. and when it does men with erectile dysfunction can be more confident in their ability to be ready with cialis for daily use. cialis for daily use is a clinically proven low-dose tablet you take every

and romney can be, and they're going to say, no -- look, some of my friends are the left like george mcgovern

test because the republican establishment will try to stop him as the democrats tried to stop george mcgovern. tip o'neill lost a primary in his hometown of cambridge, massachusetts to a mcgovernite. i think they're wrong, but let's have that test. >> the ed sew week nighow week #:00 eastern. >>> tonight, the political spotlight shifts to president obama as he lays out his vision for the nation in his third state of the union address. tracie potts joins us from washington with a preview of tonight's speech. good morning. >> reporter: it's critical, perhaps more so than any other state of the union. the argument for president obama's second term. and he previewed over the weekend in his weekly address some of what he'll talk about fan standing up for middle class families, rewarding hard work, and he's expected to chide congress for its inaction. the president reviewing his jobs plan and also national security, the end of the iraq war, the killing of osama bin laden, the arab spring, plus, we are told, new proposals for housing, manufacturing, and college and, yes, he will, again, call on the

. >> rose: also this evening, former senator george mcgovern, also a democratic presidential nominee, talks about what it means to be a democrat. >> i don't agree with those who criticize the federal government as our enemy. i think it's the best government in the world. and look at all the things that has done... so i cringe when i hear some of my republican friends talking about the terrible federal government. >> rose: barney frank and george mcgovern when we continue. captioning sponsored by captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: barney frank is here. since 1980 he has represented massachusetts in the house of representatives of the united states. from 2007 until 2011 he chaired the house financial services committee where he remains a ranking democrat. among his accomplishments is the 2010 dodd-frank wall street reform and consumer protection act which overhauled the nation's financial regulatory system. in november, he announced he would not seek reelection for his 17th congressional term this year. his retir

but there was one group that pulled the lever for george mcgovern. who was that? are 1820-year-old voters. who are the groups that is barack obama's strongest opponent today quotes it is the exact same 1829-year-old voters going for george mcgovern in 1972. if you do the math, 1972 to 2012 is 40 years. a voter 18 tonight 29-year-old is 58 to 69 years old today. you cannot say what a kid is doing what is 18 to 29 will drive what he's doing in his 50s or 60s. a lot of changes go on. it may be the case. i'd be shocked if it was. i want to spend the last 10 minutes talking about the latino vote because it's incredibly important to our country's politics. and at the basis for a counterrevolution of thousands the 1960s and his famous book come in the emerging republican majority, kevin phillips noted that clubs have provided new level political consciousness for hispanic americans in texas to support the first roman catholic president. phillips estimated from 1960 to the 1972, mexican-americans gave 84% of their vote to democratic anchovies. this is critically important

host: the caller referring to george mcgovern, part of our "contenders" service, looking at those who ran for president, lost, but changed history. go to c-span.org and find all the different contenders we focused on, george mcgovern b and one, al smith, etc. you can watch it on our website. jim is a democrat in st. louis, missouri. c-span.i love i'm wondering how in which foreign countries act as a super pacs, and whether they do it as a sovereign entity, or if they do it through multinational corporations. as an example, i can see how every opec nation would like to keep us dependent on foreign oil. guest: there remain limitations on foreign contributions to campaigns that are tightly regulated. but when you bring in the issue of corporations being able to give, corporations span international borders and it becomes more complicated. we have not seen in this cycle any situation where foreign interests seem to be involved in giving. most of the giving to the super pacs has clearly been friends of the candidate, wealthy people involved in politics for a long time who are american citi

host: the caller referring to george mcgovern, part of our "contenders" service, looking at those who ran for president, lost, but changed history. go to c-span.org and find all the different contenders we focused on, george mcgovern b and one, al smith, etc. you can watch it on our website. jim is a democrat in st. louis, missouri. c-span.i love i'm wondering how in which foreign countries act as a super pacs, and whether they do it as a sovereign entity, or if they do it through multinational corporations. as an example, i can see how every opec nation would like to keep us dependent on foreign oil. guest: there remain limitations on foreign contributions to campaigns that are tightly regulated. but when you bring in the issue of corporations being able to give, corporations span international borders and it becomes more complicated. we have not seen in this cycle any situation where foreign interests seem to be involved in giving. most of the giving to the super pacs has clearly been friends of the candidate, wealthy people involved in politics for a long time who are american citi

we would talk about civil rights at the dinner table, about politics, george mcgovern, nixon and watere. i do have very specific memories about her as a passionate involved woman who loved john kennedy in a big way and loved the democratic party, was a diehard irish -- you know, she was so proud of being irish. >> what do you think she would have made of how you have grown up? >> i don't know. i often think that my life would be totally different had she not died. but i don't know in what way. when someone die, you tend to sanctity fi them and they become in your memory almost like a movie. i think if she were alive today, we'd be great friends and going out to events. i don't know. many of my friends have turbulent relationships with their parents, most of us, right? when a parent is gone for whatever reason, you can make up something in your head about her. >> you haven't seen your mother in 40 years now. >> yes. >> amazing statistic when you get it down to that. when you see people who have very close relationships with their mothers, do you feel like you've had this huge void in yo

is the exact same 18 to 29-year-old voters that were going for george mcgovern in 1972. if you do the math, 1972 to 2012 is 40 years so a voter that was 18 to 29-years-old batvinis 58 to 69-years-old today. you can't say what it is doing when he's 18 to 29-years-old as we did not what he's doing when he's in his 50s or 60s. a look at changes go on. it may be the case. i would be shocked if it was. i want to spend the last ten minutes or so talking about the latino vote because this is incredibly important to the country's politics. the basis for the democratic counterrevolution in the 1960's and the famous book the emerging republican majority kevin phillips noted that the kennedy club had provided a new level of political consciousness for hispanic americans in texas for the first roman catholic president most likely the northern program. phillips estimated the 1960 to 1972 mexican-americans gave 84% of their vote to democratic presidential candidates. this is critically important. why? because mexican-americans don't get anywhere near 84% of their vote to the democrati

there george mcgovern used the state to catapult himself to the nomination. but the turnout is actually low. people have to be present to vote, and there is no early or absentee voting. in 2008, 17% of the voters took place in the caucuses. that year former arkansas governor mike huckabee won the republican caucuses, and president obama won the democratic caucuses. stay tuned to nbcwashington.com to bring you the latest on the iowa caucuses. >>> this morning president obama and the first family are returning to the white house after vacationing in hawaii over the holidays. they're expected to arrive at joint base andrews around 7:30 this morning. then later tonight, the president will turn his attention to iowa. he plans to host a video chat with democrats across the state as the republican caucus results are coming in. and then tomorrow he will head to cleveland for an event that will be focused on the economy. >>> the second session of the 112th congress formally convenes today. the senate will conduct a pro forma session, which means that no official busin

>> i don't think it's like the early days of gene mccarthy or george mcgovern or pat buchanan where theres a lot of excitement, or with hillary clinton last time. i think it's pretty low grade right now excitement, but i do think there are a lot of undecideds, and that's what's going to make this race tonight so interesting. where are those 15% going? where are those 40-some percent who say they haven't made up their mind? i think this is very up in the air up here, and that's why i'm betting on huntsman. i think when in doubt, they're going to go with the guy who has shown himself right near polling time. huntsman did very well in that debate with david gregory on sunday morning when he stood up for national service and stuck it to romney. i think people -- well, maybe i'm voting or thinking with my heart here. i'd like to think americans pay attention to those moments on television. >> "hardball"'s chris matthews. thank you very much. he will be a part of the live coverage coming out of the primaries. it all starts at 6:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. >>> mitt romney's carefully pl

that was the first time there was a serious iowa caucus in which george mcgovern did very well and of course new hampshire. but this stuff was almost wiped off the air waves by richard nixon making the first visit of an american president to china. so in the evening you think that people would be noticing iowa and new hampshire, mcgovern doing very well. instead there was an hour special each evening on most of the networks for a week, you know, richard nixon at the great wall, the great hall of the people. people were not thinking very much about domestic politics, thought a lot about nixon. >> brown: michael just said 1972, the first important iowa caucus. this wasn't around forever. >> it seems that way already. >> brown: what's your thought on the incumbent now and then? >> think of jimmy carter who experienced the highs and the lows of iowa. in many ways he's the man who defined the modern iowa caucuses coming out of no where with no money, no organization to speak of in 1976. to tap into the mood post watergate mood for change. but then four years later as an incumbent facing a

i've known her since george mcgovern put her dad on the ticket, when she was 16 years old in those dayss box. she was a great person. i was afraid -- by that time she was married to arnold schwarzenegger and i could just see this guy coming in there with a baseball bat or something, spilled hot coffee on his wife. >> exactly. >> she's a great person. >> we'll be right back, with more. laces? really? slip-on's the way to go. more people do that, security would be like -- there's no charge for the bag. thanks. i know a quiet little place where we can get some work done. there's a three-prong plug. i have club passes. [ male announcer ] now there's a mileage card that offers special perks on united, like a free checked bag, united club passes, and priority boarding. thanks. ♪ okay. what's your secret? ♪ [ male announcer ] the new united mileageplus explorer card. get it and you're in. >>> we want to tell you this morning about an incredible team of unheralded journalists, the cbs news national journal off-air reporters. what they do is -- they're assigned to a canndidate and thy go everywh

george mcgovern and barry goldwater's had a lot of intensity. people showed up at straw polls. turnout was low. they are small but powerful. we may see that here. >>> the evangelical vote was huge in 2008. this year's gop field is working very hard for the evangelical vote again, some people say working too hard. we'll look at that in just a moment. i don't want healthy skin for a day. i want healthy skin for life. [ female announcer ] don't just moisturize, improve the health of your skin with aveeno daily moisturizing lotion. the natural oatmeal formula goes beyond 24-hour moisture. it's clinically proven to improve your skin's health in one day, with significant improvement in 2 weeks. for healthy, beautiful skin that lasts. i found a moisturizer for life. [ female announcer ] aveeno daily moisturizing lotion. and for healthy, beautiful hair, try nourish plus haircare. only from aveeno. forty years ago, he wasn't looking for financial advice. back then he had something more important to do. he wasn't focused on his future. but fortunately, somebody else was. at usaa we provi

and the idea that we should -- that this prebate is a good idea, excuse me in 1972, george mcgovern proposedidiculed by all the conservatives. when he put forth his tax plan to do exactly that in 1972. we've had this shift. >> i want to steer you back to this issue, though, which is sometimes when you hear people make the argument for the flat tax or some sort of -- gary wants me to call it the fair tax. it's flat, whether it's fair is up for debate. sometimes people will make the argument and this is the one that sounds compelling to me, right, which is that there is a wedge opened up between the rate that is on the books and what people are actually paying. we have a huge problem with loopholes and enforcement and all sorts of ways people hide income that are entirely legal, in the tax code. we now know some of the funds in romney's portfolio are domiciled in the cayman islands, which is usually a way of evading taxes. how do you deal with that issue? there's a libertarian argument that says the system will be gained. you have to come up with something simple. as someone who studies the me

where the little old lady from mississippi agreed with ronald reagan on everything, but voted for george mcgovern because sherman had been mean to atlanta recently. but as people to -- decided to divide up into two teams based on whether they had -- wanted more government, less government, more individuality, or -- individual liberty or more state control over lives, the two began to work together into political movements. to answer the question what is a conservative, what is a reagan republican, if you were to have the modern conservative movement, the modern reagan republican movement sit around the table, you can tell who was at the table. taxpayers, do not raise my taxes. the small business community, do not regulate or tax my ability to run my business, being self- employed, an independent contractor, my professional life. home schoolers, people who just want to be left alone to educate their own children and maintain control of their children's upbringing. the second amendment community, i serve on the board of directors of the national life association. chuck cunningham with the nra will

a little old lady from mississippi who agreed with ronald reagan on everything but voted for george mcgovern, because chairman had been mean to atlanta recently. but as people decided to divide up into two teams based on whether they wanted more government, less government, more individual liberty, or more state control of peoples lives, it became easier for the two parties to work together, the two political movements. and i think to answer the question comes in, what is a conservative, what is a reagan republican, if you were to have the modern conservative movement, the modern reagan republican movement sit around a table, you can tell who's at the table. taxpayers don't raise my taxes. the small business community can don't regulate overtax my ability to run my business, myself being self-employed, independent contractor. my professional life. homeschools, people just want to be left alone to educate their own children and maintain control of their children's upbringing. the second amendment community comprised of on the board of directors of the national rifle association, chuck cunning

george mcgovern and barry goldwater's had a lot of intensity. people showed up at straw polls.w. they are small but powerful. we may see that here. >>> the evangelical vote was huge in 2008. this year's gop field is working very hard for the evangelical vote again, some people say working too hard. we'll look at that in just a moment. i don't want healthy skin for a day. i want healthy skin for life. [ female announcer ] don't just moisturize, improve the health of your skin with aveeno daily moisturizing lotion. the natural oatmeal formula goes beyond 24-hour moisture. it's clinically proven to improve your skin's health in one day, with significant improvement in 2 weeks. for healthy, beautiful skin that lasts. i found a moisturizer for life. [ female announcer ] aveeno daily moisturizing lotion. and for healthy, beautiful hair, try nourish plus haircare. only from aveeno. forty years ago, he wasn't looking for financial advice. back then he had something more important to do. he wasn't focused on his future. but fortunately, somebody else was. at usaa we provide retirement p

a little old lady from mississippi who agreed with ronald reagan on everything but voted for george mcgoverneople decided to divide up into two team is based on whether they wanted more government or less government, more individual liberty or more state control of people's lives it became easier for the two parties to work together. the two political movements. i think to answer the question what is a conservative and what is a reagan republican, if you were to have the modern conservative movement and modern reagan republican movements a round table you can tell who is at the table. taxpayers don't raise my taxes, small business community, don't regulate my ability to run my business or be self-employed or independent contractor. home schoolers, people who wants to be left alone to educate their own children and maintain control of their children's of bringing. the second amendment community. i serve on the board of directors. national rifle association. chuck cunningham, will be talking later. but again the second amendment community does not go knocking on doors insisting that you be a h

hampshire said no to the vietnam war by giving a boost to gene mccarthy, four years later to george mcgovern likes gritty mavericks different as pat buchanan and john mccain, a state that doesn't like the bushes, father or son, likes the clintons, bill and hillary, both who made big çcomebacks here, likes nothing better than to buck the tide, bang on the pipes, whatever says, look here. rachel? >> chris that is excellent. when we look ahead tonight, all of you guys, we look ahead tonight to what is probably mitt romney victory, his prohibitive lead in the polls seems to suggest he is coasting towards a first place finish what is more important, the way his rivals are going after him right now in terms of the way that sets the tone for the rest of the campaign or who comes in second is a second place finish the most important thing that comes out of tonight? >> when off guy from massachusetts, there is always a massachusetts discount in the new hampshire primary. paul tsongas won the new hampshire primary 33% of the vote, bill clinton came in second at 24. second is what it's all about when