at the time the surprise was that george wallace, the segregationist governor of alabama, came in and ran in that primary. suddenly it was brewster versus wallace. this is at a time when the civil rights bill was pending in the congress. initially i think danny thought -- danny had always been in support of civil rights. after world war ii when he saw african americans fighting side- by-side with him, and he came home and they were being treated like they were being treated with segregation before the war, he thought that was really wrong. he had a history of this. he just thought that the maryland people would obviously vote against wallace. well, he was shocked at the treatment he got. he was spot on, -- spit on, her what -- his wife's life was threatened. they had to have police outside where gerry was growing up. it was a bitter, bitter, nasty race. but ultimately, danny brewster won that race. he won by 10 percentage points. but a lot of people who lived through it thought, still think, that danny didn't win that race because the initial expectation was that he was swamped wallac

shirley chiz woman -- chisholm went and visited george wallace. she chilled me out, i stayed with the campaign. she talked to him. she prayed with him. and she encouraged him to look at his ways and his views and his horrible treatment of brack people. and peggy told me that he pray -- she prayed and fast forward to after he got out of the hospital. he went to dexter avenue baptist church, in his wheelchair, of course i say too little, too late, went down the aisle and apologized to the people of alabama for what he had done. as a segregationist and governor of alabama. again, i said too little, too late, but finally, let me just say, she carried many bills fighting for domestic workers and fighting for low-income wage workers and fighting for people who were marginalized and didn't have a shot at the american dream. well, george wallace help herd get co-sponsors for her bills and helped her become a very effective legislator and the rest is history. so thank you so much for bringing up that story. that was a pivotal point in my life because she t

my first presumption was that i would be run kind of in between george wallace on my right and ted kennedy on my left. i was disappointed when kennedy withdrew from the race because my plans had been made accordingly and a lot of substitutes came in for him about nine or ten, as a matter of fact. and then, of course, when i went around the country to campaign, i did assiduously or the different questions that were asked to me concerning the middle east, concerning china, concerning panama, concerning the free enterprise system in our country, concerning environment, concerning education and welfare and so forth. me mandatorily start getting in my thoughts and order and so i would say that by the time i was inaugurated, i had a very clear picture of what i wanted to do as and i have to say, not with too much ego, that we accomplished almost all of them. we had a very good and productive relationship with the congress, a batting average that was at least equal to that of london. johnson for instance, if you look at things statistically, we had some very difficult issues to face normalizing r

my presumption was that i would run between george wallace on the right and kennedy on the left. my plans, a lot of substitutes came in, about nine or 10 for kennedy. when i went around the country to campaign, the different questions that were asked of me concerning the middle east and china and panama, concerning the freedom of our country, the environment, education and welfare and so forth, made me get my thoughts in order. i would say by the time i was inaugurated i had a clear picture of what i wanted to do as president. i have to say, not with too much ego, we accomplished almost all of them. he had a production -- productive relationship with congress and a batting average that was he with of lyndon johnston -- equal to that of lyndon johnson. we broke official ties -- the middle east peace process, the panama canal, and the worst political issue i have had to face in my life, what had -- what to be done with young men who went to canada during the vietnam war -- i had to face a lot of those things. >> are you glad you pardoned the draft evaders? >> i am. it was a frustra

so he cut right -- for political reasons he said some nice things about george wallace in order to get elected governor of georgia. and then as michael indicated, in his first moments as governor he said the time for racial discrimination is over. he goes onto integrate georgia state government, move the federal government from tokenism to true diversity, when he becomes president, appoints many black judges and becomes the jimmy carter that we understand and then globalizes the civil rights movement with his human rights campaign. and so i think the lesson here, ali, is that it's never too late to come to a sense of justice. in many ways jimmy carter spent the second half of his life making up for what he did not do in the first half. >> impressive, though, if you can come to that realization and spend that time. michael michael beschloss, there are things -- lick we mention there are echoes today things not great about jimmy carter's presidency whether you hold him responsible for them, iran, it was their revolution. we were allies and then we weren't, and we were never able to recon

you know, george wallace even he didn't believe a lot of the races claptrap that he spouted. it was demagogic, pandering but a few years, the presidency lewis has seen a very different tune. and of course, by then we've heard many remarks by trump that are pretty unambiguously. and lewis says you know, i think in the final analysis, have a president who a racist. i did get to interview john lewis by phone a couple of times his dying months, and i asked him, well, of all the, you know, things of the trump president that have upset you the most, what would you list first? he said, you know, he travel to one of these facilities where they were housing immigrant children been separated from their families and just seeing the and seeing how those children were being housed, he said, caused him so much pain and agony. and donald trump was probably the only prominent person in who when john died, could not find a kind a word of tribute to you know, forget about the political years but to his heroism back in the sixties to any of it. lewis had skipped trump's inaugural session. he sa

he invited george wallace to come and speak, uh, in in georgia.e reached out to notorious segregationist. and yet, as you just said, when he was inaugurated governor, the line that everybody remembers is the time for racial segregation is over. he was then seen as the up and coming governor, you know, representing the, new south. he had a tough time, though, with governor. i i'll never forget an interview with the georgia speaker of the state house of representatives, who told me in an interview, he said, jimmy carter is trying to run the state like he's the commander of a nuclear submarine. in other words, he thought he could give out orders. and that was carter's background. he was a nuclear engineer. he had worked under hyman rickover, and he was really brilliant. i mean, he was he brought all those engineering skills, his interest in literature, faith, theology, art, the arts, music to to his career in politics. and and you put it all together. it didn't necessarily make for a great mix in, in politics. and i think that attributed to his loss

one was ted kennedy, who was running for president, and the other was george wallace from the deep southegationist. and my idea when i first began to think about running was that i would get in between kennedy and wallace as a moderate, and that would be my avenue to the white house. so that's why, that's what happened. but then when ted kennedy withdrew from the campaign after chappaquiddick and so forth, i saw a lot of very wonderful people, most of them out of the u.s. senate and from the house of representatives like mo udall and two or three governors enter the race against me. so i was disappointed, but i kept going. and the reason i first got in it, to answer your question, i thought it would be between me, kennedy and wallace. mr. updegrove: what's your proudest accomplishment as president? pres. carter: i think the proudest accomplishment in general terms, it's maintaining peace. we never dropped a bomb, we never fired a bullet, we never launched a missile while i was president. and the main thing is that we tried to bring that sort of relationship to other countries. i spent a

anybody but carter, and they started throwing people at him and george wallace and carter knocked himff. jerry brown of california. carter knocked him off. frank church of idaho. carter knocked him off. birch bayh of indiana. carter knocked him off. he was just people bought into the fact that he wasn't part of the morass of washington, d.c., in the long 60s, that he didn't have his fingerprints on anything watergate related or vietnam war or supreme court packing or or the assassinations of of the, of the 60s. he kind of was a clean one off for an agent to represent it to the public. old fashioned rural values, southern accent and a very fine one term as governor. and it's a book he wrote called why not the best, an autobiography that he used as a tool to introduce him to people. and he made fast friends. i mean, he got the endorsement of rolling stone magazine from hunter s thompson. he had befriended the allman brothers band out of macon, georgia, where capricorn records was at, and he used that connection to his benefit. he played softball with willie nelson and and so he grew her

we had populism back in 68 with george wallace. we had populism back in the 1930s with huey long. this is not new. we should not be shocked that this happens. this periodically happens in american history when the average person, the average guy feels he's gotten the shaft. she's gotten the shaft. it's hard to raise her family. it's hard to keep a job. it's hard to get ahead. you know, one of the things, if you study populist movements in american history is they tend to arise when there is great skepticism about the so-called elites. and that's a term that we hear thrown around quite a lot. you know, the elites and perception that the elites, whoever they are, are corrupt and that they're running this country to their own advantage. and not to the advantage or the interests of the average american. what do you think of those kinds of claims? do you think there is a kind of coterie of elites who are running things to their own interests, you know? well, historically, as you point out, populism happens when people feel that they are otherwise not being heard. and it becomes a popul

as he is campaigning for governor and recognizing you got george wallace in alabama, sort of leaning into segregation and he is determining i need to move away from this, he leads as well with his face, he also becomes president at a time, it was an incredible statistic, the gallup poll says a third of america at that time considered themselves born-again. a third of america. he is becoming president at a time after decades where the evangelicals were not as engaged in politics but were becoming engaged. he entered it with a sort of pious optimism, and of vietnam and such. and, develop to these incredible relationships with people like vernon jordan and others to usher in a civil rights agenda. it is extra ordinary when you think about it. as he was in his speech earlier at the top of the show, you can see how that faith helps him use a language of transcendence. whatever our anger, whatever you have today, i'm going to find a way to get you through that. that was because of the deep faith he had. >> it also undergirds, reverend, all of his views about who we were and this humidity,

on shaping his life so as he's campaigning for both governor and recognizing that you've got george wallaceing into segregation and he's determining, like i need to move away from this, he leads us well with his faith. he also becomes president at a time, and i took this as critical, you mentioned 76 point the gallup polls that a third of america at that time considered themselves born- again. a third of america. so he's becoming president at a time where after decades the evangelicals were not as engaged in politics but were becoming engaged. he entered it with a sort of pious optimism, coming off of vietnam and such, and developed these incredible relationships with people like vernon jordan and others to really usher in a civil rights agenda. it's extraordinary when you think about it because in his speech earlier, at the top of the show, you can see how that faith helps him with the language, whatever anger, whatever hurt you have today, i'm going to find a way to get you through that, and that was because of the deep faith that he had. >> it also undergirds all of his views about who w

it all together and managed to knock off everybody in iowa, new hampshire, pennsylvania, beat george wallace and all the rest of them. it was a hell of a campaign piece by piece. and later on in the presidency, when i was a speechwriter for him, i learned what jimmy carter was about. he's a man who believes in doing it yourself. i delivered a speech to him at 4:00 in the morning, the coffee was perking, he was up already like a farmer which he was for years, a farmer, and he was already working away on his decision memoranda. he loved when he could get an 80 point questionnaire from stu eisenstadt, his great domestic adviser. he wanted all the facts and figures, all the decisions to be made by himself. that was his undoing. he believed in doing everything piece by piece, like an engineer, like herbert hoover, unfortunately, instead of the grand sweep of things. i think ronald reagan, if he had the hostages grabbed in his role, he would have declared war. that's an act of war. that's an act of war, you iranians, i want those people back by 24 hours or we're going to war with you guys. carter

. >> securities attorney wallace do and george mason university law professor j.w. verret talked about the outlook for the securities and exchange commission's tentative agenda under the second trump administration. other topics included cryptocurrency any threats you could face from possible legislative proposals from the incoming congress. this conversation was hosted by the federalist society in washington, d.c., and runs one hour. >> i'm really excited to be here with my friend wallace to dewitt. this became sort of a laurel and hardy routine we are going to do, but we will talk about what the future holds for the sec. >> >> happy thanksgiving to you, friend. in his spare time he is a professor of corporate law, securities law, and forensic accounting at the george mason university scalia law school. he is a board member of foundation unblock chain and untraceable shielding tech. is a former member of the sec's advisory committee, of which he is a vocal and prominent member. he is a member currently of the fasbe advisory committee and he served as a witness most

george stephanopoulos, real quick, real quick. jd vance, tulsi gabbard, pete hegseth, mike wallace, ron desantis were at that game today. outside of being drawing the ire of liberal media, the other thing they have in common, they all served in my war, the iraq and afghanistan war. and i think that is a big and specific message that president trump sent today. and it's why he got the resounding applause that he got with things going on in syria and israel the way they are, and his promise to not get us into another war like that. yeah. >> thank you for pointing that out. and as always, thank you for your service. always appreciate that. okay. still ahead on this jam packed hour of the big weekend show, our own sara carter sitting right here as an exclusive look inside el salvador's notorious secret prison and an interview with the country's minister of justice and public safety, they commit. >> and they were part of terrorist organization. they have to be here and submit our justice system. >> wow, this is good stuff. and we will have the full clip with his answer on that later. but first, more mysterious drones have be