the prison at guantanamo. they are still committed, but there was never really a vision that was articulated that they would move the majority of them into military detention. they did look at a state prison in illinois as something they would purchase and perhaps move some of the guantanamo detainees to. that could be a brig-style detention come -- detention, but congress did not allow. there are 171 detainees. none of them are moving elsewhere anywhere in the near future. it is impossible legislatively. host: milwaukee, wisconsin. good morning. caller: i have one question. as halliburton involved in this in any way at all? guest: halliburton did some of the construction of the prisons, the steel and cement prisons that were done early on were the majority of the detainees are currently capped. they had a hand in construction and you can see it on the plaque on the building. we have had a very, very difficult time drilling down and servicing the meaning of this $800,000 per detainee cost. i am not aware of an

the prison at guantanamo.hey are still committed, but there was never really a vision that was articulated that they would move the majority of them into military detention. they did look at a state prison in illinois as something they would purchase and perhaps move some of the guantanamo detainees to. that could be a brig-style detention come -- detention, but congress did not allow. there are 171 detainees. none of them are moving elsewhere anywhere in the near future. it is impossible legislatively. host: milwaukee, wisconsin. good morning. caller: i have one question. as halliburton involved in this in any way at all? guest: halliburton did some of the construction of the prisons, the steel and cement prisons that were done early on were the majority of the detainees are currently capped. they had a hand in construction and you can see it on the plaque on the building. we have had a very, very difficult time drilling down and servicing the meaning of this $800,000 per detainee cost. i am not aware of any

the prison at guantanamo. they are still committed, but there was never really a vision that was articulated that they would move the majority of them into military dettion. they did loo at a state prison in illinois as something they would purchase and perhaps move some of the guantanamo detainees to. that could be a brig-style detention come -- detention, but congress did not allow. there are 171 detainees. none of them are moving elsewhere anywhere in the near future. it is impossible legislatively. host: milwaukee, wisconsin. good morning. caller: i have one question. as halliburton involved in this in any way at all? guest: halliburton did some of the construction of the prisons, the steel and cement prisons that were done early on were the majority of the detainees are currently capped. they had a hand in construction and you can see it on the plaque on the building. we have had a very, very difficult time drilling down and servicing the meaning of this $800,000 per detainee cost. i am not awaref any cur

bush signed an executive order setting out military commissions to try terrorism suspects at guantanamo bay this was to the bush administration an easy fix a place to keep us up suspects detained as part of the quote war on terror and what too much of the rest of the world want tunnel day was a free pass a place where the u.s. could avoid playing by its own rules rules like the right to a fair trial innocent until proven guilty it is also a place where the harsh interrogation practices and torture came to light angering friends and foes alike and because of this candidate barack obama promised to make some changes listen. want to out of all bets easy close vote was a total restore habeas corpus we're going to leave was shielding the wild plot hole that was storing her or post to the close guantanamo i will follow through on top of the world people's. representatives. and that's where we're going to close their. doors. all right so just a few weeks after coming into office in january two thousand and nine president obama did sign an executive order mandating the closure of guantanamo bay

yes, this is a significant day in guantanamo. this is the first time these military trials have resumed. president obama put a block to them when he first came into office. under opposition from congress, he is effectively being forced to withdraw that. what we will see today for the first time in nine years since his capture in the arabian gulf -- he is accused of bombing the uss cole. we have been here for the last 36 hours. the military authorities have shown us around the base during that time. >> inside america's most notorious prison, this is one of several camps at guantanamo bay housing those captured during the u.s. war on terror. we have been brought here under strict regulations. cannot show the faces. there's one camp we cannot visit. that's where the authorities keep what they described as a high value prisoners, including the suspected mastermind of the 9/11 attacks. another of its inmates is alleged to beat the boat bomber, al-nashiri. it killed 17 american servicemen and wounded dozens more. he was captured in the

pay a high price to keep the doors of guantanamo bay open here's his take. well basically it comes down to the fact that where you played the clip of obama stating that you know we're going to restore habeas corpus. we're they're hypocrites where you dismissed ration has actually fought every he'd be a squirt his case that has appeared in d.c. courtroom so you know we're very good at preaching but not practicing what we're preaching so it's integrity it's credibility credibility is is the number one issue right now. and there is a lot of rhetoric there's a lot of promises that have been made certainly obama does not there all of the blame congress has voted time and again to withhold funding that would have that would have allowed some of these trials to military commissions some of the trials rather take place in what is referred to as article three federal courts here in the united states that's what i was going to say you know providing the defense department with the money to shut down guantanamo but again just getting back to you know your question inte

in a closed guantanamo and i will follow through on a legitimacy is what do see when we've got. them all that is open. represented. and that's where we're going to. refer. all right so just a few results are coming into office in january two thousand and nine the president did sign an executive order mandating the closure of guantanamo bay within the year well it is now november of two thousand and eleven one hundred day is open for business with plans for renovations and nearly two hundred detainees still in custody but miami herald carol carol rosenberg has no doubt spent more time than any other journalist there and she writes it's actually the most expensive lesson on she says the pentagon detention center that started out in january two thousand and two as a collection of crude open air cells guarded by marines in a muddy tent city is today arguably the most expensive prison on earth caused costing taxpayers eight hundred thousand dollars annually for each of the one hundred seventy one captives by obama administration reckoning that's more than thirty times the cost of kee

i turn to close guantanamo and i will follow through on. promises promises candidate obama was all about president obama is all a different story so was the u.s. marks in the ten year anniversary that's most expensive prison in history will take a look back and also discussed by president obama still has not shouted down. his monday nov fourteenth eight pm in washington d.c. i'm christine friends out there watching our team. let's begin tonight in oakland where protesters with the occupy wall street movement are gearing up to retake the park they were evicted last night early this morning in what seemed for the most part to be a peaceful protest though thirty two people who refused to leave were arrested while in just about an hour from now that park will reopen and protesters say they plan to take it back and the mayor of oakland jean quan had told police to back off protesters since changed her tune and that's what really will advisor dan siegel has just resigned i want to put up a tweet he posted just about an hour ago he says quote no l

well, this has been an area of interest of mine because of where we are right now with the guantanamo detainees. the reality is unfortunately 27% of those who have been released from guantanamo have gotten back into the fight and are back trying to kill us, our troops, our coalition partners, and this is an area that was very important to have clear standards where transfer would only be appropriate in the instances where we could ensure that there wouldn't be recidivism so that we could protect our troops and our partners from having to see the very same individuals that we had already in custody at guantanamo. and so the provisions set here are very important to have that statutory standard for when transfers can be made and how they should be handled. in fact, i would add when you think about some of the detainees who have gotten back into theater that we had in our custody at guantanamo, they are conducting suicide bombings, recruiting radicals, training them to kill americans and our allies. some of the former gitmo detainees -- and i think unfortunately it's a little bit of a ba

guantanamo bay remains open. he said, the president of the united states also said that we would have detainees tried in civilian as well as military court. that was a position that he's held. so they had the great idea -- they had a great idea, let's take khalid sheikh mohammed to new york city. that was a great idea. let's have $300 million in security costs while they have a trial at one of the most -- of the most notorious international criminals. obviously that one got the support that -- that it deserved. we now have, thanks to the release policy of guantanamo, 27% of the detainees of guantanamo who have been released are back in the fight trying to kill americans. only this time, they've got a red badge of courage and a degree of legitimacy because they are -- spent time in guantanamo bay. leaders of al qaeda have been released from guantanamo bay under this administration. now, they were released under the bush administration as well, to be fair, but we didn't know at that time how many of them would retu

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guantanamo bay was built to house them. i have been down to guantanamo bay, and i can tell you this much. in the years since it was built, it does become a three- star or four-star palace. i'm being facetious, but there are treated humanely. their rights may have been violated to the extent that if you were in an american -- an american citizen, and put in that camp, your rights might be violated, but if you went through on a act of terrorism, you would be allowed to put in that camp. host: james, a democratic caller in tennessee. caller: thank you. in the last few days we have noticed that rupert murdoch has resigned from the newspaper. host: his son has resigned. caller: yes. they have accused -- of an accused of from hacking -- phone hacking. anyone who believes they're not doing damage to our country. host: i think we are off topic. bishop, an independent. you're on the air. caller: please give me a chance to finish my idea. the reason i would like that is because i have seen you identify things like denial, minimizatio

>> i have been to guantanamo as the facility is now run. i believe the men and women conduct themselves in an upper broadway and prisoners are treated in a humane fashion. >> isn't it true every guantanamo bay detainee will have access to federal courts to make habeas petition for their release? >> there are a number of cases we are handling. >> isn't it true any condition that comes from a military commission will be appealed? >> i think that is true. i am not sure. >> the bottom line is we all agree guantanamo bay is a few main detention facility being well run and we have civilian oversight of what happened in guantanamo bay. my view is we are less safe if we don't have the prison. please tell me in the next 30 days, submit to this committee or me individually a plan because we're running out of time that would be reasonable, sound and has political support to confine future captors and move people out of iraq and afghanistan who are too dangerous to let go. could you do that in 30 days? >> i don't know. this decision will be made -- i w

base in guantanamo he what that's right and i remarking an important chapter of american history that most people don't like to talk about because it's still going on ten years after president bush signed the order guantanamo bay is still home to one hundred seventy one detainees detained deprived of any normal legal protections and sort of mark the tenth anniversary of this executive order which created the military tribunals to get my retired air force colonel morris davis is speaking out about the conditions there davis was the former chief prosecutor at one time a baby resigned in two thousand and seven and he now says the u.s. has set up a law free zone at the camp speaking to a conference on human rights law in new york davis said that america was great at preaching to others but not so good at practicing what we preach there's a point when enough is enough and you have to look at yourself in the mirror torture has no place in american courts well i have to agree with him there but eventually he was seen as a symbol of us human rights abuses around the world and i didn't ridge h

and that's leaving a question many say he is a later version of push through agree with that guantanamo the president tried to close but he did not fight hard enough and republican congress and democrats refused to pass legislation to allow. civilian trials were to bring detainees into this country and others he could have fought harder but he did not he's not bush lite but what he has done is continue the national security state in ways that have disappointed many and on libya. he went to the united nations he did get a resolution but it was a different kind of warfare again and an abuse of nato which is an institution in my view which should be abolished and other institutions should be supported like the united nations how do you assess obama's handling of the arab spring how does the arab world see obama now he's still supports that this process between israel and palestine he didn't back posting in groups for statehood plus his relations with iran continue to sour we all remember that it's up to bush it has to reengage with the middle east and now it seems that he has to remain gau

guantanamo is a 24/7 operation. when they are inside the wire and working as guards as opposed to other stocks that may be outside what they call "the wire," but also get combat halite their brothers and sisters outside of guantanamo. is it like a gated community down there. host: a pie chart from "the miami herald." carol rosenberg, you have worked hard to try to get more spefic numbers. why they are spending, and what they are spending. tell us about your search for information. guest: this is a very superficial snapshot, the best we could surface when we k the detention center staff and their supervision at the southern command. they give us a very, very broad categories. when we asked them to drill down and asked what intelligence meant it, ask for things that seemed, perhaps, privileged but are actually quite meaningful at guantanamo, we could not get anywhere. basically, the people down there who handled the budgets, the people who handle public relations refused to drill down to any level. when we went to the

but it is administration policy to close guantanamo. we think it would be an appropriate thing to do for a variety of reasons. we have run into opposition. >> if i may just interrupt i understand where you're coming from and i embrace the idea of finding a new confinement facility but certain legal changes had to occur for that to be viable that have occurred. we don't need to blame each other but going forward we live in a real practical world. do you agree with that? we got to make practical decisions. >> as practical as i like it to be but somewhat practical. >> i buy into the idea of this approach that sometimes the best venue in trying terrorists. i never said the courts don't have a place in this war. i have been very passionate about military commission. i think we see that the same. and all of the above approach and be as flexible as possible. my point is if we don't have a at a jail in the war on terror for future captures, that makes us less safe. where would we put someone if we caught them tomorrow? high-value target, where

guantanamo bay -- the believe it is humanely run? >> i have been to guantanamo and as the facility is now run, i believe the men and women down there conduct themselves in an appropriate way and prisoners are treated in a humane fashion. >> is it true every detainee at guantanamo bay will have access to our courts to make a habeas petition? >> there are a number of cases in the d.c. courts. in any conviction from a military commission will be automatically appealed to our civilian court system? >> i think it is true. i am not sure. >> i think it is true. the bottom line is we all believe guantanamo bay is a humane detention facility that is well run, and we have civilian oversight over what happens in guantanamo bay. my view is we are less safe if we do not have a prison. please, tell me in the next 30 days, submit to this committee or the individually, a plan. because we are running out of time -- that would be reasonable, sound, and as political support to confine future captures and to move people out of iraq and afghanistan who a

washed my interview with colonel morris davis former chief prosecutor of military commissions at guantanamo bay and the marquis said on facebook brutal honesty this sums it all up and it's not just good no either obama's balls also dropped off over tax cuts universal health care a public option defense spending education reform energy bt rights and so on and here in force or truth is that president obama has disappointed many of his most ardent supporters time and time again closing guantanamo was one of the first promises that he made on office but simply part of a long list of unfulfilled commitments on his first major accomplishments health care and that was marred disappointment a lot of people think that president obama's chief of chief failing was not going as far as promised as the public option was sacrificed all the name of political expediency next up president obama extended the bush tax cuts something he vowed not to do while campaigning and in fact that was is something a piece of his temp eight i don't even get me started on the rule of law extra judicial killings state secret

that is how things work. >> you know that at guantanamo bay, citizens are detained at guantanamo bay. >> ok, you can stay here, because in a better two minutes? >> well, i would like to pose my question to tony. my question basically is this. the logic about bringing people to justice, can you conceive of any war where in all instances you would be able to go and arrest without putting undue risk to the seal team or any other team, an obligation to bring somebody back, that you can never use deadly force against even a person like bin laden, under even your own logic about the scope of authorization. we cannot use deadly force against him? not as a matter rules of engagement and whether he was surrendering, but you basically said we should have gotten them. did i get it wrong? >> no, you're correct. i think your column is now giving draft dodgers and new excuse. if use this to an individual being a will to resist, if you're able to do that, apparently you're going to put yourself in danger. so from here on, you feel that you might be put in nature walk going after back as to resist, y

president obama has disappointed many of his most ardent supporters time and time again closing guantanamo was one of the first promises that he made on office but simply part of a long list of unfulfilled commitments one of his first major accomplishments health care and that was marred disappointment a lot of people think that president obama's chief of chief ailing was not going as far as promised as the public option was sacrificed all name of political expediency next up president obama extended the bush tax cut something he vowed not to do while campaigning and in fact it was as something a piece of his campaign i don't even get me started on the rule of law extra judicial killings state secrets you've heard it all before but yes well we don't all have to use colonel morris his rhetoric save his balls fell off something happened this president when he got an office and it wasn't for the better and next on respond if you are the washed my interview on the stop online piracy act also known as so political hell commented on you tube i wish more people were aware of this all the videos i

there will be no guantanamo detainees at thompson.let's do something right for our bureau of prisons and right i hope for my state of illinois. the last point i'd like to make is on a separate issue. we're going to consider a veterans bill today on veterans unemployment. we'll vote on it soon, in the next day or two. it is a bipartisan bill, and it should be. it is a bill that's based on president obama's jobs bill which said that in addition to all the other unemployed in america, we should give special help to our returning veterans. i remember the president's speech at the joint session of congress. members on the republican side didn't jump up and applaud very often, but they sure did when the president said we ought to help our veterans. they fought for america. they shouldn't come back home and fight for a job. let's give them a helping hand. everybody stood up and applauded, as we should. so this bill provides incentives for people to hire unemployed veterans. we estimate there are about 240,000 of these veterans, and the tax c

military defense base near guantanamo in cuba. he has been held for nine years. we are in guantanamo bay with more background on this story. >> it is quite extraordinary case, he effectively appeared in public for the first time today after nine years after he was captured in the gulf of arabia. he has appeared short and stocky, his hair cropped back and his first appearance quite extraordinary. pictures are not allowed, but the background of the cases this. he was accused of masterminding the bombing against an american warship back in 2000 that killed 17 american service people. and subsequently, a number of other plots he has been accused of being part of. after 2002, he was effectively sent to a number of secret prisons and emerged in 2006. >> history of tough job prospects. >> south korea holds the exam today. this year, pressure for academic success is as fierce as ever. young koreans are finding that there aren't enough jobs to go around and the government has said it is a social problem and persuading students to offer vocational training instead. many ex

tavis: even on guantanamo, it is not closed yet. he took a different position, but it is still open. >> he is getting so much push back from congress. it is difficult to say, he has not done it. congress is battling him when he wants not to use military commissions. we want the option of going into regular court. people say to me, does that mean that he was lying when he was a candidate? i do not think so. i think it looks different from the point of view of a president. every morning, the president gets a briefing about all the things that might happen. most of them never to happen. the chief thing we did in the fall of 2001 during the leadership of george w. bush, was that the government got congress to give them -- we better get the president a great deal of power because what if there is a terrorist that we could find this way and we could not find a different way? we have to do more surveillance, more opportunities for criminal law enforcement and prosecution. we better have more security screenings. but president bush said u.s

more on this new round of war crimes tribunal from guantanamo bay. what happened in the tribunal today? >> we saw the detainee come in. he looked very calm and relaxed. surprising for a man who spent nine years in conformance -- in confinement. much of that was in secret detention around the globe. he seemed very relaxed. his defense counsel seemed happy that finally these proceedings had begun. this was a preliminary hearing. it involved a lot of procedural arguments and also setting out the charges against him. he is accused of organizing the attack on the uss cole and yemen back in 2000. that killed american service people. he is facing the death penalty. the trial itself will not start for a year in it could take another two years to actually conclude. this could stretch all the way into 2014. the big issue is exactly that, the death penalty makes it much more complicated in addition to those documented cases of his torture. in addition, this is a very controversial system, the military commission system. effectively, we have no idea when this wi

of president obama's pledge to close guantanamo on the secret overseas cia prisons calls are increasing for him to reexamine the treatment of prisoners detained as part of the so-called war on terror being held inside the united states with little public scrutiny the bush administration open to secretive prisons and indiana and illinois known as communication management units or c m use that are designed to severely restrict person or communication with family members the media and the outside world dozens of muslim men are still being held at the c.m. used as well as other person or some clothing environmental and animal rights activists the governments provided little information about the special prison units a search on the bureau of prisons website yields just one document even mentioning the program only a handful of news articles have covered what's been described as a little guantanamo by some of the person hours. and april of two thousand and ten we filed a lawsuit against the bureau of prisons the attorney general eric holder. director of the bureau of prisons harley and on an

guantanamo bay -- the believe it is humanely run? >> i have been to guantanamo and as the facility is now run, i believe the men and women down there conduct themselves in an appropriate way and prisoners are treated in a humane fashion. >> is it true every detainee at guantanamo bay will have access to our courts to make a habeas petition? >> there are a number of cases in the d.c. courts. in any conviction from a military commission will be automatically appealed to our civilian court system? >> i think it is true. i am not sure. >> i think it is true. the bottom line is we all believe guantanamo bay is a humane detention facility that is well run, and we have civilian oversight over what happens in guantanamo bay. my view is we are less safe if we do not have a prison. please, tell me in the next 30 days, submit to this committee or the individually, a plan. because we are running out of time -- that would be reasonable, sound, and as political support to confine future captures and to move people out of iraq and afghanistan who a