clearly guliani doesn't want this to drag on, shep. >> shepard: john, guliani upended the narrative on the firing of james comey. there's three separate and distinct explanation. first, it was comey -- i should say because comey released to the public derogatory information about hillary clinton during the campaign. that was from the rosenstein letter. a position which the president supported. and then the russia on my mind admission to lester holt of nbc news. the president told two russians that the firing of the nut job, as president trump called comey, relieved great pressure on him. now a new story. guliani says the president fired james comey because he wouldn't say that the president was not a target of the investigation. because he wouldn't publicly clear the president. john, this new version of the comey firing goes to allegation of obstruction of justice. this came up in the briefing. >> we do know through james comey's memos that the president asked him on several occasions, if i'm not a target of the investigation, can you please let the american public know about that. jam

did guliani say anything else about this inform plant? he said he spoke with president trump last night and this morning. he says he spoke about the situation with the fbi informant. guliani is telling us that he wants to conduct a confidential interview with this informant and he thinks that a president special council interview should be contingent him getting to talk with this informant. he said he needs to talk to the informant so he knows what information that informant told special council mueller. rick. >> rick: the president has plenty to say on this topic. >> reporter: some of this started last night when president trump tweeted and called on the department of justice to release documents related to this informant. he said that in order to find conclusive answers and information on what actually happened here, that those documents needed to be reviewed and released. he is now saying that he's going to make an official demand tomorrow, tweeting i hereby demand and will do so officially tomorrow that the department of justice look

rudy guliani making waves this week. the president responding to how guliani broke the news.e president had to say on "outnumbered." oh, sorry i'm late, sir. when you said you were at the doctor, but your shirt says you were at a steakhouse... that's when you know it's half-washed. add downy odor protect with 24-hour odor protection. downy and it's done. >> julie: what a difference a day makes. the sun is out in denver after a soggy may snowstorm. this storm dumping up to two inches of rain in the denver metro area. >> jon: some parts in the rock can you mountains are got over a foot of snow. that's keeping the ski resorts up. >> julie: you used to ski a lot. thanks for joining us. >> jon: "outnumbered" starts right now. >> fox news alert. new reaction from president trump to rudy guliani's revelation that president trump reimbursed michael cohen for stormy daniels payments. the news sent shock payments across the news media and putting sarah sanders on defense. now trump said guliani just started and he will get his facts straight. that's what he said. this is "outnumbered"

no, i think that rudy guliani knows what he is doing. when you are making a payment like this to settle a disputed claim, i do as a lawyer on behalf of my clients all of the time, you don't' to be talking about it publicly. so now they have to do it because of controversy. but it is plausible some of noteworthy of the president would not know details of settlements like this. i am sure it not necessarily only settlement he has been afilliated with michael cohen for many years, it may seem like a lot to most, but in the grand scheme of things, people who are this wealthy routinely are shaken down approached with these types of threats and routinely it better economically, piece of mind and family save to resolve it privately. we know about stormy daniels is a person that cannot be trusted because she breached that agreement. john: who can be trusted between michael cohen and rudy guliani, one of them is lying. if you are lawyer, you said you made, i no reason to doubt, payment to behalves of your client, of $130,000. it may not mean who d

but guliani also said this this morning. listen here. >> imagine if that came out on october 15, 2016 in the middle of the last debate with hillary clinton. >> so to make it go away, they made -- >> comey didn't even ask. cohen made it go away. he did it his job. >> the way he framed it there, there would have been some impact on the campaign had the payment not been made. one thing i can tell you about that rudy guliani said last night, came as a surprise to everybody at the white house except the president. the president knew he was going to go out and say it. the chief of staff didn't. the white house counsel didn't. the press office certainly didn't know about it. i would hazard a guess, neil, if some of those people, particularly the chief of staff and the white house counsel, don mcgann knew that rudy guliani was going to do it, they would have gone to great lengths to try to talk the president out of it. neil? >> neil: amazing. we're following that. what does this mean if in fact there was a separate issue of the pres

guliani. that time has passed now september 1, this is getting too be a strain on guliani credibility. >> i'm rolling back, brennan and clapper's words against them, if there is in addition to be worried about -- if there is nothing to be worried about why you are upset that you are target. >> whose words. >> brennan and clapper have used that line about, if there is nothing to worry about, why are you so defensive. >>o. lou: i am talking about guliani and this business about september 1. >> kicking the can on this, president should never submit himself to a in person interview, i disagree with mr. guliani there, he should never did it. written at best, then, there has to be a line drawn, that is it, thank you very much we're done playing. lou: i think that is line that president has drawn. we hope. chris ferrel thank you. >> thank you, lou june next, president trump blasting former cia director john brennan today, we take up revelations concerning obama administration's intelligence operation

i am not say that rudy guliani is not correct if what me is aing. i would say that mueller, telling guliani that he will follow the justice department rules and regulations when indicting a sitting president should give critics some confidence that mueller is following rules not going outside of his jurisdiction whether politicizing this. how we move forward, president is last subject. but whether he will sit with mule are they have not decided how they would handle this yet, i don't know which it will end, i don't think that anyone knows, it could en next week or next year. >> like a soccer game, then minutes at end, where is the buzzer. then a whistle, and mueller is ultimate referee. they want a silt down with president. is this a way for their team through rudy guliani to comfort the president, so he knows he is not going to be charged. how critical is that sit down to this investigation, and can it end? president does not act -- >> i think that president is competitocomfortable, his attore saying, this is a trap, we don't think this good for yo

like rudy guliani is in charge now. like maybe he's going to set the rules of the special counsel. no, you'll go two hours. no, you won't ask those questions. they can subpoena him. >> i was going to say, shep, that's not how that works. remember the initial statement is he's going to wrap it up in a couple weeks. that's obviously changed. now the story is he's going to decide on the legal strategy within the next couple weeks. the fact is, it behooves both sides not to take this all the way up to the supreme court in terms of getting a subpoena. >> shepard: think about how that trek will go. first thing you do is yes, yes and nine where are you. >> so both sides have bargaining power. of course, the ultimate trump card, if you will, on mueller's side -- >> shepard: i see what you did there. >> yeah. and they still have some bargaining power. guliani does have -- look, alan dershowitz -- >> shepard: he's looking for a job. >> he's saying they would do written interrogatories. since when? it's not going to happen. >> she

now trump said guliani just started and he will get his facts straight. that's what he said. this is "outnumbered" and i'm melissa francis. this is kennedy, republican strategist lisa booth. former deputy spokesperson for the state department and fox news analyst, marie harp and fox news contributor, guy benson. everybody knows guy and marie will co-host ben sen and harf, which is launching monday. i heard that somewhere. >> it's going around. >> yeah. >> good for you guys. >> benson&harf.com. >> we should hire you. >> yeah. she's the new spokeswoman. >> i love it. >> let's get to it. president trump reacting after rudy guliani's re-lation that the president reimbursed his personal attorney for those payments to the porn star. here's the president this morning. >> rudy is a great guy. he just started a day ago. he really has his heart into it. he's working hard. he's learning the subject matter. he's going to be issuing a statement, too. he's a great guy. he knows it's a witch hunt. that's what he knows. he's seen a lot of them. he said he's never seen anything so horrible. h

i talked to guliani about this as well.e said that he has a couple of items that need to be satisfied before he would ever let the president sit down with robert mueller for an interview. i asked guliani if they were red lines. he said yes. the two conditions are, they want to see everything on so-called spygate and that is what trey gowdy was talking about, the fbi informant that approached members of the trump campaign and what is known as the rosenstein scope memo. this is the memo that he wrote to outline what authority he had to investigation. here's what trey gowdy said last night. >> i want to to see the documents that trey gowdy has never seen, which is outrageous, and i'm not going to let my client testify, the president of the united states, even if he wants to, without those documents being produced. if and when we find this was handled appropriately and there's some evidence on which they can base this phony investigation we'll have him testify. >> one other aspect of this, the existence of a memo written by the

you know rudy guliani well. you know his playbook.ms like they're trying to discredit the mueller investigation rather than take on the political baggage of firing him. >> i feel that -- i worked for rudy. he's a stand-up guy. he's getting a lot of grief. he knows his business. he's in the media. he know what's he's doing. there's a lot of strategy behind rudy and the media. i have to tell you something, looking at this as americans, we should be not only upset about russian meddling, but we should be more upset, leland, about somebody putting an informant in a campaign without telling the candidate. >> noel, we just heard from kevin corke and saw the sound bite from marco rubio. he didn't seem too concerned. he has access to more intelligence than you do. why should he be so worked up about it? >> this is a threat to our democracy. >> leland: do we know what happened? >> that's the point. we don't know what happened. the problem is this: if you are going to be this upset about russian meddling in our elections, which we should, but t

that's why that guliani is on to something. i think the president will ultimately be forced to testify. it's disagree with the doj official that was on prior to me. i think ultimately he will be forced to as richard nixon was forced to turn over the tapes. he didn't testify. he resigned. it was a bad precedent. if the president can answer in writing, that would be great. probably not. let's have a very hard time limit. they do it in civil lawsuits all the time. all right. it's three hours. you get 20 questions. you don't have to tell me the questions ahead of time. if you did, i could be better prepared to answer. show me your good faith that you don't really want to trick me. you're not looking to trap me. >> neil: good luck on that. >> yeah. >> neil: reading your book. what an amazing life you've had. we've been friends for years. i can remember, especially when you came here, why is he coming here? he has all this money. i realized in the beginning of the book, you didn't have a lot of money. you said to me, roger ailes met

let's start with rudy guliani's blockbuster.ation that two weeks ago mueller told president's legal team he will not indict the president. >> mueller has finally grasped obvious. there has been a rule, you cant indicts sitting president. lou: he has not abided by a lot of rules. it is as if republicans recuse themselves from cone flick or step -- conflict or step back from a job or post, democrats seem to go full on tilt. >> i can teach an entire semester law school class on professional responsibility and use robert mueller, he is saturated with conflicts of interest. with a man who has such a reputation of integrity, i question his -- or lack there of. in his determination to stay on this case, where he does not bo long. lou: at-this-point, president, is it too early to start discussing with the special council the wind down. >> as long as there is a special counsel, i would be apprehensive, you never know what a guy like mueller will do. there are a couple of things about rudy guliani's comments. ford pardon opted nixon -- pa

the president's lawyer, rudy guliani says mueller's team could wrap up another investigation by september. and tough tack on iran by secretary of state mike pompeo. >> we'll track down open ties around the world and crush them. >> than as the secretary's warning about what's to come. in hawaii, poisonous steam and clouds of acid. new dangers from a volcano. we'll go live to the big island. also, china's plan to make it to the dark side of the moon. that's ahead in this hour of "shepard smith reporting." i'm rick leventhal. a live look at the white house where president trump is supposed to make with christopher wray after the president ordered the justice department to see if agented supplied on his campaign for political reasons. that's what sources are telling fox news who say officials scheduled this sit-down last week. the president tweeted yesterday, i hereby demand and will do so tomorrow that the department of justice look into whether or not the fbi, doj infiltrated or surveyed the trump campaign for any such purposes and if the demands were made by the obama administration. this

let's start with rudy guliani's blockbuster. blockbuster revelation that two weeks ago mueller told president's legal team he will not indict the president. >> mueller has finally grasped obvious. there has been a rule, you cant indicts sitting president. lou: he has not abided by a lot of rules. it reputation of question his -- or lack there of. in his determination to stay on this case, where he does not bo long. lou: at-this-point, president, is it too early to start discussing with the special council the wind down. >> as long as there is a special counsel, i would be apprehensive, you never know what a guy like mueller will do. there are a couple of things about rudy guliani's comments. ford pardon opted nixon -- pardoned nixon. preemptively, you worry about that. aspect of it. other is when you read special counsel regulation it calls for mueller to issue a report, i thought it has been his goal that hedges and call into question,a all he has to do in one line say there may have been some evidence that trump might have obs

rudy guliani is saying that the special counsel won't indict the president. we've been saying that because mueller never had the legal standing to do it in the first place. we'll explain. and president trump responding to kim jong-un's threat to pull out of the summit and he refusing to back away from the denuclearization of the media. the media promised a smoking gun. remember the trump tower meeting between trump jr. and the russian lawyer? the senate released the documents. in spite of what the media told you, it's a dud. going nowhere. and a stunning record new from the fbi launched a secret investigation. it has a name into the trump campaign. only days after they rigged and put the fix in in the clinton e-mail investigation. "the new york times" has inadvertently told you everything that we've told you about this regarding the massive abuse of power and corruption. also tonight, mark meadows and jim desantis are fighting back hard against the doj. they're now urging the president to get involved. we need the documents released. they're demanding to see

rudy guliani said they put an undercover fbi agent in the campaign. there's zero evidence for that. that is such an outlandish and outrageous allegation. it should not have been made without showing any evidence. >> you know this from last night but trey gowdy made one thing clear, donald trump was never a target in this investigation. listen to this. >> wray and rod rosenstein made it clear to us, donald trump was never the target of the investigation and not the current target. that can all change depending on what a witness says, but as of now, chris wray and rod rosenstein are stunned when they think trump is the target. >> target means the government has decided an indictment. subject is they're still investigating. the subject could still be the president. you can go from a subject the a target like that. >> but what strikes me about this, the fact that you have the fbi who is so concerned about infiltration in the campaign that they told the dnc that someone is fishing around your servers and we believe that they have broken through. they also knew that there were russians th

when we come back, rudy guliani. later on, wing have a mini monologue. we'll examine the cancellation of "roseanne" and we'll talk about liberal hypocrisy. that's straight ahead. printed? the business advisors at office depot can assist with exactly what your business needs to grow. get your coupon for 20% off services, technology and more at office depot and officedepot.com. >> if the fbi was so concerned and if they weren't targeting trump, they should have told trump. if they're really concerned about the russians infiltrating a campaign, then why not try to stop it? why not tell trump? well, the answer is perfectly clear. to me, they were running this whole story. they were pushing this scam. >> great insight. rush limbaugh says they should have warned the campaign. rudy guliani says two things. carter page on this show last night, mr. mayor, this was the spring of 2016. he's never met donald trump. comey's notes, the single biggest unreported part of it, trump saying to comey, hey, i didn't collude with russia. if anybody did, i want to get to the t

anyway, rudy guliani is type. it was a petty cab hit a car.t anybody by the petty cab. the petty cab is fine. we're getting hints about a possible motive behind the las vegas shooting, the deadliest shooting in the nation. two people told cops that the suspect who gunned down dozens of people at a music festival, that suspect ranted about the government trying to take people's guns. that's according to the newly-released documents. cops arrested stephen paddock after the shooting october 1. they said he fired at people from a mandalay bay hotel and killed 58 injuring hundreds more. one of the people that reported his rants told the cops that paddock said, and i'm quoting "somebody has to wake up the american public and get them to arm themselves." quoting again "sacrifices have to be made." dan springer has the news. words have power. dan? >> yeah, shep, las vegas police fought the release of these 1,200 pages of witness statements and would give no comment about what they tell them about the mass killer's possible motive. at least from some o

what you just watched there, rudy guliani on the south lawn.as the sports and fitness event going on. guliani, the president's attorney as relates to the russian investigation, decided to walk up to the cameras and answer a few questions there. speaking of the investigation, "the new york times" is reporting this morning that there is a certain instance back in march of 2017 that according to the times has caught the eye of the special counsel, robert mueller and it's this. the times reports that at mar-a-largo in that month, president trump berated jeff sessions for the days and months to rest cues himself from the russian investigation. the times report that the president had asked his attorney general to reverse his decision. earlier today, the south carolina congressman trey gowdy who appeared on the cbs morning show and was asked about that times report and this is what he said right here. listen. >> i would be frustrated, too. that's how i read that. senator sessions, why didn't you tell me before i picked you? there's lots of good lawyer

we'll put those questions to rudy guliani.teven mnuchin has arrived in beijing for trade talks with chinese officials. the meetings are expected to cover a range of u.s. complaints on china's trade practices. secretary mnuchin outlined his expectations when i talked to him earlier this week. >> i'm cautiously optimistic about the meetings. we're going to go over there. we're going to have franks frank discussions. these -- frank discussions. these are issues that president trump has been focused on for over the last year and hopefully we'll make significant progress. we're going there to make progress. that's our objective. >> maria: president trump tweeted about it last night, our great financial team is in china trying to negotiate a level playing field on trade. i look forward to being with president shy i xi in the not to distant future. joining me now is former ceo of famous dave's barbecue, ed rensey. thanks for joining us. >> good morning. exciting times, huh? >> maria: it sure is. you visited china. you dealt with chin

rudy guliani was back at it again this week, attacking the special council investigation. here he is. >> if you're going to write an unfair report, write it and we will combat it. we're ready to rip it apart. and we're ready to rip them apart if that's what they want. >> chris: do you think rudy guliani is helping or hurting the president? >> i think he's showing a determination to push back and aggressively defend his client. with rudy it's a little bit of both. i'd like to have rudy on my team if i were the president because he's pretty good at talking to the american people. he has a reputation of being a solid prosecutor. let mr. mueller do this job abd then see what's there and let the trump people rip into it and we'll figure out as a country whether or not there's anything there. i haven't seen evidence of collusion by the president but time will tell. >> chris: senator graham, thank you. always good to talk with you. let's hope we never need a good lawyer. >> let's hope so. >> chris: up next we break down year one of the mueller investigation and what to expect as

as for the special counsel's investigation, rudy guliani is claiming that mueller's team told them that they would wrap up the investigation of justice investigation by september 1 and if he can interview the president by mid july. the president's team is whether an interview would do more harm than good. >> if the president can put this behind him by september one by sitting down with questions that he can answer, that would be a good thing. now a source familiar with the investigation has told reuters made up the deadline. this source says it's effort by the president's legal team specifically by rudy guliani to pressure the special counsel to wrap up his investigation before he's ready, neil. >> neil: thanks very much. meantime, martha mccowan just wrapped up an interview with the vice president of the united states. and this meeting did come up. >> with the revelations that our campaign may have been the subject of surveillance by the fbi, the president i think is grateful that the department of justice is going to have the inspector general look into it and determine and ensure tha

dowd, and president brought in rudy guliani now flood in as questions bubble up to whether or not theresident might sit down with robert mueller for a interview. if show, under what condition. guliani said he would be open to that idea if mueller considers possibility it is jim comey not the president who would be one telling untruth. >> if they have an open mind, then is something we would consider, if they don't, then given all irregularities of this investigation, we would be foolish to have him be interviewed. reporter: part of president's thoughts on this today, there was no collusion, it is a hoax, there is no obstruction of justice, that is a set up and trap, and writes, witch-hunt. david: thank you blake. here now sarah carter, investigative reporter fox fuse contributor, first. on mueller. the talk is that he gave the president or legal team saying, if you don't appear before my in person, president, we will subpoena the president. if there is a subpoena, do you think that president will go or refuse? >> i think that this is why he brought emmett flood in, during clinton 1 --

this is happening as rudy guliani said the president could defy any robert mueller subpoena or take the fifth. an eruption in hawaii forces hundreds from their homes. lines of lava oozing down streets and destroying buildings and torching trees. we'll take you there live. let's get to it. good monday afternoon. president trump calling on republicans to get tough on the russia investigation. that's after one of his lawyers, rudy guliani said the president would not have to obey a subpoena and might plead the fifth if compelled to testify. he told george stephanopoulos that the president has done nothing wrong. so why not testify. >> what is the danger in answering robert mueller's -- >> because -- you couldn't put a lawyer on this show that wants to keep his law license to tell you he should testify. >> but that's only if he doesn't tell the truth. >> no. it's only prosecutable if they have some built-up manipulated evidence to prove he didn't tell the truth. how often does that happen? >> shepard: president trump said he would love to sit down with robert mueller, said it repeatedly but

supposed to be about. >> paul: what happens if the president is subpoenaed and according to rudy gulianihow is that going to play out? i presume it would go all the way to the supreme court. >> presumably it would go to the supreme court. the conceptual problem i have is that if the president is being subpoenaed, he's being subpoenaed in connection with an investigation in which he is the subject. >> paul: right. >> so if that's the case, then he's being asked to cooperate in an investigation to prosecute himself by the branch of government that he heads. >> paul: that reports to him,. >> correct, correct. it's hard to see how you get there. >> paul: bill clinton was required to testify in a civil action. >> right. >> paul: that was preceded his presidency. >> right. all together different. >> paul: this would include presumably official as the president of the united states, dealing with the firing of jim comey, for example. >> which the president had the constitutional power to do. >> paul: could he send a note that said mr. mueller, my powers under article two of the constitution allo

>> earlier this month, president trump's attorney rudy guliani said that the president paid cohen back. >> that was money that was paid by his later, the way i would do out of his law firm's funds. the president reimbursed that over several months. >> the white house has said president trump denies having a sexual relationship with daniels. let's get to john roberts. he's live with the news on the north lawn. john? >> trace, good afternoon to you. going through the documents here and putting together the pieces of the puzzle that this paints. there are three things at work here. first of all, this may be the reason why back at the beginning of may on the hannity program, rudy guliani dropped that blockbuster that the president paid the money back to michael cohen. the genesis of this is a lawsuit that was filed to the doj and the office of government ethics by citizens for responsibility and ethics in washington on march 8. a crew contended that the money that was paid to stormy daniels by michael cohen constituted a loan and should have been disclosed on the president's financial disc

>> no. >> reporter: guliani released a statement, quote, clarifying some of his remarks.ote, there is no campaign violation. the payment was made to resolve a personal and false allegation in order to protect the president's family. it would have been done in any event, whether he was a candidate or not. he says my reference to timing, my references to timing were not describing my understanding of the president's knowledge but instead my understanding of these matters. president trump says that he paid his attorney michael cohen a retainer and the reimbursement was made through that retainer. leland. >> leland: allison barber live at the white house as we await the president here in cleveland. liz has more. >> leland: george h.w. bushies back -- >> elizabeth: george h.w. bushies back home today. they sent out a statement saying he was discharged from the hospital after a treatment for infection. his doctors report he is doing well and is happy to return home. he was admitted last month for an infection following the funeral for his wife, barbara. bushies 93 years old and

that's according to rudy guliani. the constitution bars prosecuting sitting presidents.ast night guliani was asked when you look at the main flash points, the trump tower meeting, stormy daniels payment, raid on manafort and cohen, was there any part of that that concerned him more than any other. >> their inability to reach a conclusion that is obvious, and their unwillingness to recognize the damage this does to our country all over the world. this was engineered by comey. >> reporter: this is engineered by comey, according to rudy guliani. by the way, jen sto stop sto stl be at the white house today. we expect we'll hear something as the men meet and talk about contributions to nato. >> dagen: thank you. great to see you at the white house. coming up, congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz the nra as she calls them just shy of a terrorist institution. ford is preparing to rev up production of the f-150 pickup truck, the details after the automaker was forced to stop making those popular vehicles, next, st for gold, we were the ones who carried it back east. by steam.

rudy guliani's comments on the mueller probe and bias within law enforcement, we take a look at that.estigation is the investigation. if actions have taken place that are illegal and unethical then he ultimately has to take responsibility for that. as the ethical man that he is, he's not comey, the ethical man that he is, he should say enough's enough. >> maria: more on that coming up this morning straight ahead. a warning on the court but not for a player. why the rapper drake is hearing from the nba now. a new record in the nfl, find out who is unseating kirk cousins as the top playe paid pr on the gridiron. nbc news is under fire after backtracking on a report that there was a wiretap on president trump's long-time personal attorney, michael cohen. in fact, cohen's calls were not recorded. the authorities were monitoring his log, the call log. nbc issued a correction. president trump tweeted on this, this is what he said. nbc news wrong again. the sources probably don't exist. they're fabricated, fiction. nbc is now as bad as fake news cnn. sad. joining us right now to talk about t

this is why i keep bringing it up. >> this is why when rudy guliani suggested an undercover fbi agentthe cam page and met in private with other campaign people as if he was part of the campaign, there's no evidence of that whatsoever. to correct the president a little bit if i may, in history, we know that l.b.j. used the fbi to surveil barry goldwater to the point where l.b.j. has copies of goldwater's speeches in hand before he delivered them. i wonder what j. edgar hoover got in return. >> maria: the new york times did report president trump asked attorney general jeff sessions to take control of the russia probe after he recusehood himself from the probe. according to this report, robert mueller is looking deep into this. your take on this. >> i don't think this has anything to do with obstruction of justice. if trump was upset by the recusal, i understand why he was, i might have asked sessions to reconsider it as well. >> maria: the i.g. report could be out tonight, could be out this week, what are you expecting? >> it will say hillary should have been prosecuted. she wasn't for

. >> shepard: the president's tv attorney, rudy guliani, the former new york mayor, has made similarabout strategy on behalf of the trump group. >> that's right. just this sunday he went on cnn and was talking about the strategy behind these attacks. he said look, this is about winning the war of public opinion. i'm paraphrasing here. so whether or not what the president is saying is true seems secondary to the political aim of the respect and his legal team which is to undermine this investigation and raise doubts about robert mueller. >> shepard: discussions of i impeachment which is the democratic hierarchy is warning against warning not to talk about, team trump seem to believe it benefits them. >> that's right. it's interesting that you hear this word meddling in elections being brought up. that's exactly the case. the president and his allies believe that if the democrats are talking about impeachment. it's a positive for them. they think it's far-fetched and ridiculous to happen to the president. they would rather the democrats talk about that than the issues. you'll see the p

i have the highest regard for rudy guliani.ing to be giving the president very good advice, up, down or a negotiated settlement. >> neil: many people say it's a mistake for this president to do it. and they point to the bill clinton example where he thought he could control the process. some say he embarrassed himself. note with the clinton thing. you did a lot of questioning. do you agree that this could veer in all sorts of directions? >> that's what the defense lawyers have to prevent. stop the veering. our question was very targeted, sensitive but targeted. we were not asking about his personal finances and the like. we abided by our agreement. we want the president to tell the truth. i know bob mueller. i think mueller's view is -- i know there's criticisms around the people around him -- mueller needs to truth, wants the truth. if you agree to go in, mr. president, please tell the truth. >> neil: all right. you made history in that interview and in that chat with this line of questioning. let's take a look. >> did monica

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. >> paul: rudy guliani said he heard from the mueller camp that mueller concluded he cannot indict the president while he's in office for any crime but that suggests that any information he has will be tossed to the congress for a potential impeachment fight. >> yeah, as well there's the question of if the president as kim was suggesting does not sit down with mueller, he might go the route of trying to subpoena the president which could pitch it forward to a supreme court case which would run into next year. so the question is, does the trump white house want to have him sit down and get this thing over with before the end of the year. >> paul: still a long, many months to go on this investigation. president trump setting his sights on some vulnerable democrats in his push to protect the gop's narrow senate majority. can the president rally voters in key swing states this fall? we'll have senator corey gardner, next. capital one and hotels.com are giving venture cardholders 10 miles on every dollar they spend at thousands of hotels. brrr! i have the chills! because of all those miles?

((grant))plus...a bombshell in the stormy daniels case.what former new york mayor rudy guliani is nowaying about that 130-thousand dollar payment to the porn star...who claims she had an affair with president trump. keep it here...kron 4 news at nine starts right after the break. ,.(grant) outrage tonight in the east bay as parents packed the school district's board meeting... speaking out against the proposed sex ed curriculum intended for 4th graders.(grant) thanks for joiing us, i'm grant lodes... (vicki) i'm vicki liviakis... many of the parents say the cirriculum is too sexual for 11 year olds... kron 4's ali reid joins us live from the meeting, where more than 200 parents signed up to speak. how is it going so far? 8pm teasenearly 200 parents are speaking out against fremont unified school districts proposed 3r sex ed course. it was scheduled to start after spring break, but due to outrage, the district held off. board members are expected to vote at tonight's meeting. i'll have details coming up at 9. dr. kim wallace not a state requirement fremont is choosing to teach sex ed i

while i see this in white collar americans, business-related crimes and all may famous with rudy gulianibut i'm wondering in this case, they had to have something pretty strong to warrant this and get approval for this. because what really worried me is they didn't and they did. >> the answer might be the fake dossier. i think it boils down to this, neil. they were concerned about russian propaganda, if you will, on social media and so forth. what they used as a phony factual predicate that the trump campaign was colluding with the russians. those are two very different things. they said there was collusion, which hasn't been shown, to borough into the operation of the trump campaign, to get into -- using spies, unmasking, intelligence gathering -- >> neil: they didn't call it spying then. this is where the semantics are. you're not supposed to be there, but you're there. so you're obviously intruding, getting information that you haven't even cleared or even shared with the trump campaign itself that you were looking for nefarious folks. it doesn't add up. >> they were monitoring steve

rudy guliani telling fox news that robert mueller could wrap up his russia investigation by september if mueller and his team are able to interview president trump by the middle of july. this coming as the president demands an official investigation into whether the fbi or doj surveilled his 2016 campaign for political purposes after reports that an fbi informant contacted members of

the president's lawyer, rudy guliani says mueller's team could wrap up another investigation by septemberough tack on iran by secretary of state mike pompeo. >> we'll track down open ties around the world and crush them. >> than as the secretary's warning abo