harvard because?anslated to >> the university of california system is the most racially diverse in the world. whites are the third most are -- represented group on campus. al diversity has educational benefits. they studied undergradon racial consciousness and understanding to gh scores at berkeley. it tells prospective students we ve a very diverse student body and the educational benefits you would expect to get that are present. it is the top ranked public university in the country. >> that could be translated to rvard in essence? i want you to fill in the blank. why? >> the racral alternative we focused on would make harvard go froeconomically ade to 51%. ocioeconomic diversity, about 50-50. the number of -- increase, number of asian and hispanic students would ie. >> the number of black students would decrease from what to what? >> 14% to 10%. 10% is an absolute, the number could not be higher because socioeconomic reference did not have sophisticated favor -- and data harvard has. >> council, i

pressure harvard to eliminate it.they have an endowment fund and now donors and want their kids to go to school. ken griffin donated millions to the school. it is unseemly and bad but not illegal. >> julie: there is a recent abc poll shows a slim majority of americans 52% approve of the decision to overturn affirmative action. 32% disapproving. is this -- i don't believe this should be much of a surprise, but the dissenters, those who think that this is going to hurt the minority communities, i mean, the bottom line is this. it is fair play, you know, you should be admitted into a college based on a merit system, not based on your skin color and there have been times in the past under the affirmative action ruling back 19 years ago that excluded asians, for example. a minority community, from entering schools with excellent act and sat scores. the same argument could be said about affirmative action that that exclude minority groups. >> absolutely, julie. $64,000 question is do you think discrimination against qualifi

so that's why i applied to harvard. fortunate to be given an opportunity to attend, and i had a great experience there. david: and then after harvard, you went to medical school at yale? dr. murthy: i did. i did. yeah. david: how did you pick yale as a place to go? you got tired of cambridge? [laughter] dr. murthy: well, this was also an interesting experience. you know, i actually wanted to go to harvard medical school because i was doing research there when i was in college. and you know, i just decided for myself that that was the right place for me to be. even though i did not have exposure to other institutions. it turned out i did not get into harvard medical school. and i still remember coming home on this day and opening the letter and seeing that it was a rejection. and i was so crushed. and i called my father and he said to me, he's like, i know you are upset about this, but something good will come of this, because you will be able to go somewhere else and get a different kind of exposure. this is going to he

by harvard. the department also supported plaintiffs in a private lawsuit brought harvard when the district court ruled in favor of harvard. the plaintiffs. we filed a brief in support of the plaintiffs in the court of appeals. our brief asserted that harvard's race discrimination and its expansive use of race in admissions was unlawful. that harvard actively engaged unlawful racial balance and that harvard's admissions office consistently and inexplicably asian-american applicants lower than other applicants on an entirely subjective personal rating. an asian-american applicant. it was clear in the record. harvard ranked the highest in academic and extracurricular qualified caucasians, and given the results of the ratings. harvard expects expected us to believe that the same applicants lack courage, integrity, confidence perseverance and leadership qualities compared to other applicants. yet had no explanation for the disparities in the personal ratings. i appeared personally at oral argument on

interview to get to pull me into harvard.d in. and the schools, like, -- that i got in, affirmatively. and it was literally not saying, we are going to take an unqualified person and put them in harvard. we are going to take a very qualified person, who we would never know existed, and put them in harvard. that's how i got there, that's how ketanji got their, that's how justice jackson, i should say, justice jackson got there. it's how clarence thomas got there. but the minute i arrived from my majority black little town, montebello in denver, to harvard, the first, like, week or two that i was in class, my presence was questioned by white people. i was in this big conference class, where some white students stood up and said, those students, the black students, they are only here because of affirmative action. it became a huge argument that we all ended up having. this was freshman year. i had never had my academic credentials questioned. i have never had anyone questioned whether i was intelligent, until i go to harvard. an

we urge them to open an investigation into harvard. to declare that these practices are legal and to ensure that if harvard wants to continue receiving these federal funds, that it ceases having any connection with these admissions policies for donor legacy preferences. >> and if the department of education agrees with you, and they uphold your complaint, is at the end of it or is there a court battle after that? >> well we had civil rights at this time have filed this particular federal civil rights complaint, but we are keeping all of our legal options open. this issue is a widespread issue, we have named harvard in this particular complaint but we are keeping our options open. >> mr. capping's, kippins, i am struck by this whole thing. because as i said at the opening, the 1970s specifically from the time, the black population at harvard, grows a direct result friendly in front of action programs. those alumni's children would in fact be considered legacy, should they apply to harvard. so you have any concern that getting rid of leg

he was rejected from harvard a few years ago. so my right is thomas mccarthy, typical spelling. thomas,thomas, mccarthy. tom is the founding partner of the law firm and our chief trial counsel in students for fair admissions versus the university of north carolina. to my left is adam, and r, ca ra, adam is with the law firm formerly with bartlett beck. adam is our chief trial counsel in students for fair admissions. >> -- >> these discriminatory admissions practices undermine the integrity of our civil rights laws. ending racial preferences in college admission is an admissie of the vast majority of all americans, of all races will celebrate. a university doesn't have real diversity when it's simply -- when it simply assembles students who look different, but come from similar backgrounds and talk and act and think alike. moreover, these up ins reestablish the founding principles of the 1964 civil rights act, which clearly forbids treating americans differently by race. let me quote, at the signing ceremony of the act on july the second, 1964, president lyndon johnson made these

racism is now ingrained in the dna of harvard. right after the director they had to stop using race, harvard said it was court hard day. and then, harvard's president-elect, essentially admitted the school would ignore the ruling of the supreme court. >> a supreme court decision on college and university admissions, will change how we pursue the educational benefits of diversity. but our commitment to that work remains steadfast. >> in other words you will find a new, more secretive ways to be racist. while universities will quietly look to advance their agenda, democrats will scream out loud about their agenda. after calling the court illegitimate in the clip we played earlier, councilman bowman called for the court to be expanded and term limited. >> expand the supreme court, when he supreme court ethics performed. and term limits. but we need to democracy reform overall, which also includes ending the filibuster. >> alexandria ocasio-cortez and other democrats used this opportunity as well, to attack the court. >> was far right

it's not just harvard. wall street journal reports in princeton's class of 2023, 73% of legacy students were white. and although last week's supreme court decision on affirmative action was seen as a win for conservatives, there appears to be bipartisan support for ending legacy admissions. >> one of the things that harvard can do to make that even better is to eliminate any legacy programs where they have preferential treatment for a legacy. >> kids with public opinion shifting more action against legacy admissions could be on the way. >> i think that is really what we're going to see, even more than administrative complaints. and of course, if the complaint against harvard is successful, it is likely that other institutions will have to drop the practice too. >> well, harvard is not commenting. experts say, though, the campaign complaints could take years to investigate. >> well, the search for a woman who was missing for more than a week in massachusetts has ended in a swamp outside of boston. authoritie

or who are big donors to harvard?black and latino groups are joining together to say, no, that is not far. that these legacy donor admissions get preferential treatment. the vast majority of them, nearly 70%, are white. so what this amounts to is a policy that ends up giving an advantage to ruich, white students and disadvantages other students who don't have those kecks or are minorities. the complaint notes that the district court called these preferences given to legacy applicants sizable and significant. and the complaint really goes to great lengths to spell all of this out by providing at of data using admissions numbers. so let's look at some of that. they found that for the class of 2026, just under 2,000 applicants gained admission out of an applicant pool of more than 61,000. but look at that admission rate. 3.24% is minuscule. but it's very, very different if you are related to someone who has donated to harvard or if you have a parent or relative who went. for donors, those applicants were seven times more

it's 28% at harvard. >> yeah. this mean structural racism, grandfather something in. these are the examples. it doesn't mean everyone is a bigot or trying to do it the wrong way, as i said. we can be empathetic in the conversation but, boy, this is how it works. i know you and i have been looking at this from a minute now, and i appreciate shining a light on some of the creative lawyering you all are doing. i van, thank you for being here. >> thank you, ari. >> appreciate it. >>> we'll be right back. ari. >> appreciate it >>> we'll be right back. recipe, you will want to delete all your delivery apps. because nothing beats a perfect combo of sweet tomatoes and smooth, silky zucchini. knorr taste combos. it's not fast food, but it's soooo good. ♪ ♪ (vo) when someone is diagnosed with cancer, they need support. subaru and our retailers are there to help...oo good. by providing blankets for comfort and warmth and encouraging messages of hope to help support nearly three hundred thousand patients facing cancer nationw

donors and harvard alumni should not receive that benefit.s discriminatory toward applicants of color, and it harms the educational opportunity for those populations. >> abdul, let me ask you what your role is in this, and why wait until now to bring this complaint because legacy admissions have, of course, been around for decades and decades. >> yes. first of all, thanks for having me. because of the last decision by the supreme court, it's the time and this unfair -- to end this unfair admission policy come is called legacy policy. it's really impacting all of our students, students of color. and i think it's -- it is the time we need to end that practice. as you know, that harvard has been practicing this for some time. we're just looking, you know, for equal opportunity and equal access for all students. >> michael, can you explain to me -- legacy like race has nothing to do with merit. why do you think that harvard has fought against removing legacy admissions? is it just about money? >> well, i won't speak for harvard on that account. i

here is harvard's response i part from their spokesperson.xamination of a range of data and information along with learnings from harvard's efforts over the past decade to strengthen our ability to attract and support a diverse intellectual community that is fundamental to our pursuit of academic excellence. they say they're going to redouble efforts to attract students from all different backgrounds. but this is getting a lot of attention and will continue to get a lot. >> it's about an equal playing field to have that shot. athena, thank you. >>> another legal bruising for the biden administration. a federal judge has blocked the president's asylum policy. what does this mean for migrants trying to cross the border? >> woman: why did we choose safelite? >> vo: for us, driving around is the only way we can get our baby to sleep, so when our windshld cracked, we needed it fixed right. we went to safelite.com. there's no one else we'd trust. their experts replaced our windshield, and recalibrated our car's advanced safety system. they focus on

when asian americans applied to harvard, harvard utilized this personality score to rate asian americanstings, highest teacher recommendation, second highest counselor recommendations, and harvard rated them lowest on the personality score. that's inexcusable. those things are correlated with strong personalities. those things are correlated with self-determination, independence, hard work, self-discipline. why can't harvard see past that? instead they see test-taking robots with no person oolty. that's why i believe this ruling was important to stand up for the dignity of asian americans. >> morita? >> that argument presumes that standardized tests are the best and fairest measures of merit. civil rights groups spoke powerfully about the importance of holistic review and consider are factors beyond test scores. our organization is in this because we understand that asian americans are being leveraged as wedge in these matters and we are adamant that the community not be used to divide communities of color alongside our allies representing diverse communities we will continue to fight to

the group alleges that harvard is violating the civil rights act in giving preferential treatment towhite students. the complete notes nearly 70% of donor related and legacy applicants are white. this comes on the heels of the supreme court striking down affirmative action last month. than ever, the group says it is a imperative elite colleges and universities and this practice given institutions can no longer consider race in admissions processes. joining us is one of the lawyers behind this complaint, executive director for lawyers of civil rights. talk to us about how those who are representing came to the decision to file this complaint against harvard. >> thank you for having me. we as lawyers for social rights represent a host of community- based organizations such as the chica project and the reader boston latino network. these are community-based groups that provide a significant amount of mentoring and tutoring for students in low income families after underperforming schools and they work hard to mentor and guide the students through the educational system so that they can

this is jfk harvard application as a.ident kennedy applied to harvard and made this argument. i've always wanted to go there, i've always felt that it's not just another college, but that it is a university with something definite to offer. number two, i would like to go to the same college as my father to be a harvard man. isn't an enviable distinction, one that i sincerely hope that i will intend. and he did. as somebody myself who has had a lot of advantages because of my mother, my grandfather, those successes, i think that it is very important to not let people into college because of who their parents are. i would go one further saying that we should be looking at athletes and musicians, and the ways in which the administration gets around just looking at people for being capable. for sure, there is nothing to recommend this legacy application, and the reason that it's done is for donations. they think that they will get a more alumni giving if there's a family legacy. maybe that is true, but it's an advantage to th

harvard is now under investigation for what they call elite students, called legacy.filed in the area that want to ban this practice for basically favoritism for the children of harvard alumni. a counteroffensive measure came out of the fact that the conservative supreme court has been picking and choosing where to overturn precedent, where to play policy king, something conservatives claimed they wouldn't do if they got on the court and then they did, including gutting a very recent upheld precedent for affirmative action. >> reporter: a landmark decision from a bitterly divided supreme court. >> striking down affirmative action and reshaping admissions. >> the high court saying race cannot be a factor in achieving diversity, overturning cases that go back 45 years. >> the supreme court has done america a disservice. >> reporter: this is a sea change. this is the first time we've seen anything like this. >> it may seem like a long time ago but that was just last month. conservatives basically taking aim at only one particular program that actually supports diversity

harvard is trying to get rid of the use of the s.a.t. because asian americans do quite well on standardized tests. so harvard has this club where it wants to pick and choose who gets in and who doesn't, and it cannot use simple color of a person's skin anymore. life stories can be taken into account, but life stories don't revolve simply based on one's skin color. you could be rich, have every door open to you and be african american. you could be poor and white and suffer tons of discrimination, you could have a disability. it's a matter of a person's ability to overcome obstacles that should be taken into account and legacy admissions, i think, are a bad idea. and harvard, if it wanted diversity, it could start with in intellectual diversity. only 8% of its incoming students are conservative. that needs to change. >> you talked about standardized tests and that is something that you said levels the playing field. for some there are many people who have looked at it and said, actually, those tests really make it very difficult for peopl

this is jfk's harvard application essay.sident kennedy applied to harvard with this argument. i've always wanted to go there. i have always felt it is not just another college. but a university with something definite to offer. then too i would like to go to the same college of my father. to be a harvard man is an enviable distinction and one i should sincerely hope to attain. and he did. >> someone myself who had a lot of advantages because of my mother and grandfather's successes. it's important to not let people into college because of who their parents are. and you know, i would go one further and say, like we should be looking at you know, athletes and musicians and the way in which the administration gets around just looking at people for beg capable. but for sure, there's nothing to recommend this whole legacy application. and the reason it's done is for donations. because they think that they can get a more alumni giving if there is a legacy. if there's a family legacy, families give more. maybe that's true. but it's

these charts show the racial makeup of applicants to harvard as of 2021.te applicants. on the left, normal applicants with no legacy preferences. that is not 40% white. on the right, applicants who are children of alumni, white applicants make up nearly 70% of that pool. and here's the thing -- the applicants and that heavily white legacy pool or nearly six times more likely to be admitted to harvard than those and the general pool. those helpful pie charts did not come from a federal civil rights complaint filed today with the u.s. department of education. now, the complaint challenges harvard's legacy admissions as a civil rights violation. and it seeks to force harvard to stop considering applicants relationships to alumni in the admissions process. the groups who have filed the complaint argue that ending legacy admission is more urgent than ever, because race conscious admissions policies may have helped to offset those legacy programs have now been banned by the supreme court. joining us now is michael kippins, litigation fellow and lawyer for civil

. >>> a new lawsuit takes aim at harvard's legacy admissions policy.his is hot on the heels of the supreme court's decision to dismantle affirmative action. >> we've done a terrible job of preparing our black and brown kids to be able to go to college. >> the question is how do you continue to create the culture where education is the goal. one of the things that harvard could do to make that even better is to eliminate any legacy programs. >>> hundreds of israeli soldiers dissending on jenin. >> we want to break of the camping of safe haven of terrorist. >> israel is warning that its new military operation in the occupied west bank is not over yet, after the most intense military raid in the territory in two decades. >> we are unarmed people. we don't have anything in the camp to respond to this force. ♪ >>> he would just do stuff and say stuff with this conviction -- >> daddy desantis? i mean, it's all joking. >> of course. >> because we're like desperate women who had tried everything that we could do in our own power, in our own community. we weren

the federal civil rights complaint that we filed against harvard.erpetuating discriminatory practices against students of color. we are talking about preferences that run in favor of overwhelmingly white students at harvard who are affiliated with donors with deep and big pockets. or with alums. so-called legacies that have preferential admission to the university. in the aftermath of the supreme courts exceedingly narrow decision saying that race can be a factor but a limited factor in the college admissions process, it is completely unacceptable to have donor and legacy preferences still at work. >> now, i've been, a 2018 survey by inside -- found 42% of private schools, including some of the nation's most elite institutions use legacy admissions. historians say that the practice took off in the 1920s. when it was used to counter rising enrollment of jewish and catholic students. can you talk a bit about the racist roots of legacy admissions? >> absolutely, reverend. as a lawyer for still writes, it is made very clear in our several federal civil

hitting one of the country's most elite universities as -- complaints against legacy admissions at harvard, which overwhelmingly benefit white students and what it can mean for the future of racial equity and education. we're talking to the lawyer who filed the complaint, and a new york congressman jamal bowman. bolstered by friday's job growth, president biden is making his case that bidenomics is working. meanwhile, republican presidential candidates are focusing on early primary states like iowa as donald trump blasts rhonda scent is almost as much as a criminal indictments he's facing. plus, actor marcus scribner is in our simone spotlight. once a star of the tv company black-ish, now in the final season of grown-ish. what's next in his career and role and climate change activism? i'm simone sanders-townsend, and i have something to. so >> it's been just over a week since the six conservative justices on the united states supreme court upended decades of precedent, banning the consideration of race in the polyp -- college admissions process. now americans are beginning to evaluate this

the guest speaks about harvard, stanford, usc, etc.. but most college students are going to state colleges and state-funded universities. they are a different animal than private colleges. some of the problem could be solved if other states would do what california and texas has done for over 100 years. we have a great system of junior or community colleges. they are just about absolutely free. anybody can go and it is not cost anything. then you just pay for your second two ears of another college. but it is somewhat of a conundrum when we talk about having a society based on merit. a meritocracy. on the other hand, we are talking about giving somebody an extra boost. the two are not compatible. guest: i will respond in two parts. you are exactly right, it is not really an 80-20 problem. but many students and undergraduates attend schools that we think of as pre-highly selective, they slept only 25% or fewer applicants. and that kind of school, a small fraction of the 4500 higher education institutions, those schools are where the affi

paul: kim, the education department would bring a case against harvard?not be, harvard is big supporter was this administration. what do you think? something he might be do? >> it will and might be a populous winner and the president is trying very hard to appeal to blue collar and working class americans as he gears up for reelection and what better organization to beat up on than an elite university but paul, i would note that how hypocritical it is that the reality of legacies and their admissions are vetted and part of the university structure everywhere including in public universities and this is launching an investigation into joe biden's alma mater, the university of delaware, which actively recruits and vets and celebrates its own legacy addition miss -- admissions. it's a sucker punch move. it's trying to, you know, get people all riled up about this, but it isn't necessarily an honest had lawsuit in that regard. paul: bill, alumni might give more if their kids or grand kids are likely to get in. why can't harvard or other schools try to build l

seeing against legacy missions at harvard, which overwhelmingly benefit white students and what it could mean for the future, where exactly an education, we are talking to the lawyer who filed a complaint and new york congressman jamal bowman. under president biden, he's made his case to bidenomics as working. meanwhile, republican presidential candidates are working on early primary states like iowa, and donald trump blasts around desantis almost as much as a criminal indictment he is facing. plus, actor marcus scribner is in our simone spotlight. once the child star on the comedy, black-ish, now in the final season of grown-ish. what is next in his career and his role in climate change activism? i have something to say. >> it's been just over a week since the six conservative justices on the united states supreme court upended decades of precedent, banning the consideration of race in the college admissions process. now, americans are beginning to evaluate this new terrain with some launching new efforts in the fight for racial equity and education, others working overtime to shut out

but i think that's what harvard is going to do.re are also eliminating s a t s, or at least mandatory s a t s. that was the primary evidence used by the asian students in the supreme court case to prove the discrimination so they're not going to get rid of the discrimination. they're going to get rid of the proof of the discrimination. could those alternative strategies lead to another court case? i think it will, but from harvard's point of view and other elite universities, i don't think they really care. they've got so much money. harvard litigated this case for seven years before it reached the supreme court. so while i think they won't do anything overtly to disobey the supreme court, i think harvard and other universities are going to try secretive ways around it , professor we've seen woke policies taking over college campuses. his the latest case. sienna heights university, a catholic college in michigan, is using $35,000 in federal guard grants to launch a quote, justice, equity diversity and inclusion program. um you know

you might say it doesn't matter whether you have this unfairness when it comes to legacies at harvard to flow into the nation's elite. the elite in our corporate world and our -- howard: harvard, yale -- >> of course, multiple institutions. as someone who has argued consistently on your show and others on this network, we have a problem with america's elite right now because it does not look like the country, it's it's not connected to the rest of the country, and it's doing a poor job of what we ask it to do. we're always going to have a class of elites, but we want them to be good at their job, and unfortunately at the current moment we don't, and maybe a big part of that is we've been credentialing people as opposed to make them do the work to earn the advantages they achieve. howard: washington post story, biden faces renewed pressure to embrace supreme court overall, but he's resisting it. >> look, i understand why. he seems to be very traditionalist, somebody who believes in washington institutions, so that does not shock maine i do think ben has a point. and when you think abou

you went to harvard law. you grew up under modest means. you are a great baseball player. through this, particularly yale and harvard, how did you maintain your principles, faith, belief in god, the conservative principles, your parents or what. >> i talk about -- in the book, i grew up in dunedin, florida in tampa, st. petersburg area, my father from western pennsylvania my mother north eanortheastern ohio, florida is eclectic. we have a culture, i grew up in it but the rust belt values raised me, get yale, i had now idea, i done know that colleges were liberal. i was 18 years old. i show up my first day in florida we who would wear jean shorts and flip flops and t-shirts, i show up wearing that, i was a fish out of water, it was a major culture shock, i wasn't like a refined conservative in terpterms of politics, i was mostly in sports but you sits in the classrooms, one of yale's motto for god and country for yale, i'm in a glass room, they are attacking god and country, and saying that u.s. is to flame ablame for cold war, growing up in dunedin, i did not know if peopl

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admission data showing that students with at least one parent who attended harvard had an acceptance with 5.9% for non legacy students. harvard is mentioned by name in the complaint, it's not the only system, it's all the old school days of the system. according to a wall street journal report in 2020, a 56% of the top 250 institutions in america considered legacy and their admissions. more on this, i'm joined by alan harris. he's a staff writer for the atlantic and the author of the book, the state much provide. why america's colleges have always been unequal, and how to set them. right adam, good to see you again. thanks for being with us today. >> thanks for having me. >> in terms of the merits of the, case how strong is this case when making this argument that harvard another selected universities need to get out of the business of legacy? >> you, know i think it's a pretty strong case. especially in light of what this sort of justices have said in terms of their hesitation around legacy admissions. this is a system where you mentioned something like five times, students with fiv

watched together, demonstrate our knowledge and understanding of the you miss -- admissions process of harvard and university of north carolina that outstrips the description that we saw and the understanding that the supreme court shared in their committee has opinion and the ketanji brown jackson in her dissent is right. we are a society that wants our country, that what we look like does not impede opportunity but we do not live in it and that is why we will fight together and unify an outlet those who try to fit our communities against one another to succeed. but that, i went to ask damon humid -- with that, i want to ask damon hewitt. >> this is a challenging day, not just for students, not just advocates but a challenging day for this nation. today, the united states supreme court got it wrong. my organization was founded by president kennedy in 1963, a pivotal summer for this civil-rights unit. it was founded with a racially integrated group of lawyers came together to put skin in the game to advance civil rights. it is not even clear organization could have been founded or floors over

. >> cómo se logra conseguir una beca en harvard?.mbién la banda de música. >> a sus 17 años alexandra comienza a disfrutar de su esfuerzo y tiene un promedio casi perfecto y dice que sandra ha sido su principal fuente de apoyo. >> tuve que ser delicada porque quería un cambio y porque no tenía otra opción, entonces tenía que estar en la escuela mientras trabajaba porque si no trabajaba porque con eso pagábamos las cuentas. >> entonces iba a la escuela mientras su madre luchaba por ambas. >> mi mamá decía usted va a ir a harvard y yo dije no, yo vengo de santo domingo y entonces me decía no. >> desde luego que con esfuerzo construyó el puente de su sueño con dignidad. >> tú aplicaste y si te dicen que no no. >> no sé si porque era latina o de washington no entiendo pero hubieron varias personas que le decían que estaba volando muy alto. >> esas personas le dijeron que estaba volando muy alto pues demostró que si. >> y por supuesto que no seguirá demostrando también y esto le servirá para abrirse camino y enhorabuena por ellos y por to

at harvard, they found applicants are six times more likely to gain admission to harvard via the legacynt pool than they were if they were ordinary applicants. what this effort is signifying is that at the end of the day, if race is not allowed to be a part of the consideration in the process, then nothing else should be allowed as well. this is an effort where i think you are going to see a lot of agreement from both the left and the right who are coming to say, you know what, judge? everybody completely by the merits. >> legacy admissions are not as explicit in terms of the process and government involvement. how does that impact the way that a judge or an admission person would consider? >> we have to consider how much institutional autonomy the university has. i gave the example of die geogr. what about if they need more math or history majors? do they look at the racial impact? i think i'm here as a legal analyst. i think the question is what is unfair in a particular instance is necessarily illegal, that's the question that the department of education is going to have to struggle

what are you hearing from har harvard? commenting on the case, because they said in response to the lawsuit decided last week on race that they would find a way to comply to the supreme court ruling and also on their own value. and so this is a parent or relative who went to harvard or related to a donor, and these black and latina groups are saying that these kind of applicants get special consideration, and that is violating the 1964 civil rights act. and they say that white students make up 70% of these admission, and the district court has called these preferences sizable and significant and spelled out in the data in the complaint. let's look at some of it, and it is clear the case they are making. the class of 2026, for instance, some just under 2,000 students werekaccepted out of the applicant pool. and so, we are going to have a legacy applicant, and looking historically that applicants related to the donor were seven more times likely to be admitted and that was 42% in that period, and if someone was related to, o

it's 28% of the cls at harvard. more students of color would be there. >> in the complaint i think there is kind of six requests or six specific asks of the department of education in terms of an investigation into the admissions practices, certain declarations related to legacy preferences. is that kind of how you seek to resolve this? what's the pathway forward in terms of trying to address what this complaint brings to bear? >> the most important thing here is to find ways to make sure that students are not being assigned preferences, given bonus points, extra consideration -- >> right. but which ways are you thinking? >> with their donor status. with their alumni afill yags. that's how they are getting the preference -- >> i understand that. which ways do you want to try to address that. six were laid out in the complaint, or do you want to try to take this up to a higher court at soum point? what's kind of the process here, i guess is what i'm asking. >> we are going to eliminate the ability of students to iden

harvard said it was, quote, a hard daysing said. en, and then harvard's president elect, claudine, essentially admitted the school would ignore the ruling of the supreme court. >>president, the supreme court'r on college and university admissionst on o will change hoe pursue the educational benefits of diversity. but our commitment to that work remains steadfast. >> in other words, they'll find new, more secretive ways to be racist. >> but while universities will quietly look to advance you their agenda, democrats will scream out loud about their agenda find a after callingwill s the court illegitimate in the clip we played earlier. n bowman called for the court to be expanded in term limited expand the supreme court. we need supreme court ethics reform and we need term limits. but we need democracy reform overall, which also includes ending the filibuster. and congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez and other democrat ias, well, they use the opportunity as well to attack the court. this far right, extremist, imbalanced supreme court

plus, the landmark supreme court ruling that harvard's affirmative action policies must end? - i think one of the reasons that i study the past and the relationship between the past and the present is i often find solace in historical record. - [margaret] what does professor and author jill lepore say now? - [narrator] "firing line" with margaret hoover is made possible in part by robert granieri, vanessa and henry cornell, the fairweather foundation, the tepper foundation, the asness family foundation, and by the rosalind p. walter foundati. damon button. - jill lepore, welcome to "firing line." - thanks. - you've recently published an audio book titled, "who killed truth? a history of evidence." now, this is a topic that you're not new to. you've taught it at harvard, and you've been exining truth in various forms, including on a podcast for years. was there something 10 years ago that made you think, "oh, we're gonna really start needing to look at truth?" - it's actually just very much, it feels very much of the moment right now, but i think that has often been the case o

a wacko from harvard, harvard exactly. a wing not, he ascribes to something called, is a critical legal studies. it's like crt for lawyers. he believes that the law currently is trying to maintain the status quo and codify its biases against marginalized people. he said if he was a judge that he would make every decision based upon what socialism would do. this is the guy, and this is the other guy, who are pushing this ridiculous thing to expand the court and disobey the law. >> greg: it sounds like a clown show. >> jesse: that's the block before this. [laughter] crt -- >> jesse: to crt. >> jessica: is that how we do it? all right. [laughter] [laughter] coming up, "the new york times" is warning people that going outside is dangerous. ghter] [laughter] coming up, "the new york times" is warning people that going outside is dangerous. >> jesse: the liberals are too afraid to leave their homes but it's not covid this time. "the new york times" pumping up hysteria with the headline "is it safe to go outside?" navigating the

a wacko from harvard, harvard, exactly.es to something called, is a critical legal studies. it's like crt for lawyers. he believes that the law currently is trying to maintain the status quo and codify its biases against marginalized people. he said if he was a judge that he would make every decision based upon what socialism would do. this is the guy, and this is the other guy, who are pushing this ridiculous thing to expand the court and disobey the law. >> greg: it sounds like a clown show. >> jesse: that's the block before this. [laughter] crt -- >> jesse: to crt. >> jessica: is that how we do it? all right. [laughter] [laughter] coming up, "the new york times" is warning people that going outside is dangerous. hi, i'm william devane. did you know it took our founders 116 days to debate and draft the u.s. constitution? turns out they didn't trust the printing of paper money, but they did trust gold and silver. article 1, section 10. gold and silver. good for the founders, good for me, good for you. rosland capital - is

he found his way, despite the cost to hire a two year prepare for harvard and enter harvard college in the class of 1776. the new freshman was age 21, somewhat older than the typical student and unusually. the revolut an unsettled discipline opened the undergraduates up to irreverent ideas in fashion aware, but a serious minded student whose nickname by his classmates was holy ripley. he never skipped classroom his daily prayer. prayer. he was determined to avoid every appearance. vulgarity, inappropriate. he spent his senior year in concord, where harvard college had moved temporarily all the continental army used the dorms on campus as barracks. two centuries later, he was back. once again, somebody else's misfortune proved to be his opportunity. the patriot preacher of concord, william emerson, who was the grandson of ralph waldo, enthusiastically supported the fight for independence in 76, he signed on for as an army on an expedition to, fort ticonderoga, but he caught typhoid fever and died in vermont, far from home. among the five children he left behind was his seven year old na