welcome president obama has used his last opportunity to push for u.s. legislators to ratify the nuclear arms reduction treaty with russia before the holidays as republicans continue to stall the process obama wants the senate to put aside political squabbles and focus on security. following the meeting in washington. obama basically has two weeks or so to have his arguably major foreign policy achievement passed by the senate and his pushing really hard the christmas break is coming up and after the holidays if by then the treaty is still not ratified there will be some dark days awaiting obama started more republican senators will come will take off. is that many of them are skeptical about the treaty where they seem to the substance of the start treaty its content has long stopped being the focus of discussions here in washington or in partisan game sort of scoring of political points seem to be more important to some politicians don't that what's actually at stake and that's the point obama's been making for her to call for republican senators to step

, cuántas llamadas ha hecho hoy el presidente barack obamaual que su gabinete, han llamado a congresistas, senares, y hemos estado tratando en todos los esfuerzos, descar precisamente por' qué es stan importante, mostrando que es bueno para nuestra dsf, para nuestra economía, mejor para poder aplicar la ley de manera efectiva, y definitivamente es algo necesario para seguir siendo competitivos >>> en estos momentos sabemos que n tienen los 60 votos, cuales son sus expectativas, qué cree que pasará mañana? >>> lo que sabemos es que estamos haciendo todos los esfuerzois para llegar a los 60 votantes, pero existe un bqueo republicano entonces, todavía no se sabe, pero faltan varias horas para el voto, y seguimos haciendo los esfuerzos en el 2007, hubo 12 republicanos que votaron a favor del dream act, de ellos 7 están enel senado >>> por supuesto, no solo los republicanos, también sabemos que hay demócratas que no han apoyado su voto por qué el presidente barack obma no ha apoyado el dream act de manera publica >>> ha hecho llamadas telefónicas,

african-american but i think they're also ignoring the fact that democrats are losing women because obama has kind of cut back on choice and cut back on some other key women's issues obama promised a comprehensive immigration reform and maybe we'll get a vote on dream act today but that's as close as we're going to get so it's not just african-americans who are disappointed with the presidency now also could you say that perhaps some of this talk swirling is just natural right but at this point perhaps two years in. presidency people would start talking about it or is there real disenchantment of the tax cuts perhaps as something that really catapulted that move the fact that obama gave it away now we see democrats saying that they won't even go for his tax deal right and in the same day that we're seeing if l c o come out against his trade deal with korea and i think those are two really signature issues and i live in michigan and so for me there was a poll that came out earlier in the week that said oh you know obama would beat everybody in michigan except for maybe mitt romney. but that's

read it carefully before investing. >> larry: has obama, president obama, disappointed you? first. maybe a little. because i would have liked to have him use his executive privilege to -- if that's possible legally, you know, to get rid of something like don't ask, don't tell. i think people admire real strength, even though it's misguided, you know? reagan -- first george bush -- second george bush i mean. he is -- you know, he has an open mind. he has an open heart. and -- >> larry: obama? >> obama. and he's cool. and he's very smart. >> larry: is there a but coming? >> well, i had wished -- i even left town. i went to europe because of this last election. i couldn't face -- i didn't want to be here for this bloodbath. there was no reason for the republicans to win that many seats in the house i didn't think. and that was a -- you know, a mistake on the democrats part for not getting their message across, not communicating. all that they've done that's good. >> larry: what do you think of this deal to permit the tax decreases for the wealthy in return for the other things

obama he should continue it. >> absolutely. i think he shares the same concern i have. i would hope he does. >> so far, he has. . >> on this world aids day, we pause to remember all those who have lost their lives, both here in america, and around the globe. it is a time when so many men and women are living with hiv and aids every day. let's also recommit ourselves to building on the tremendous progress we've made. both in preventing and treating the disease, and ending the stigma and discrimination that too often surround it. that's why as president, my administration developed the first comprehensive national hiv aids strategy for the united states. and increased funding to fight hiv aids around the world to record levels. because it's my hope that together we can move closer to the day when we eliminate this disease from the face of the earth. >> he's being very supportive. he's being very tough talking. you know, president obama made a speech in ghana where he said we're not giving you any money. i'm not spending american taxpayer dollars if i can't see that the money is being spent well. so our support of

interest so there is a huge bipartisan support for the treaty among experts but not on the hill and obama has very little timing ready to change that the start treaty is not just about reducing both country's nuclear arsenals by a third it's seen as a symbol of trust between the two nuclear superpowers and obama made it clear that further cooperation. plans with russia could really go south without this key trading place he stressed how important russia's assistance is in afghanistan and how crucial russia's cooperation was on iran and the aspects of the u.s. and some other aspects of the u.s. russia reset and everybody here realizes that the new start is sort of the milestone of this we set so he's got a cheeky on reporting from washington robert garde from the center for arms control and nonproliferation says republicans want to keep an obama foreign policy victory but it's become politicized because the minority party in the senate has said that its first priority is to prevent the reelection of president obama so they are reluctant to support his initiatives and give him what might appear

story that everyone is writing is barack obama after the shellacking he took got his mojo back, he's the co comeback kid. mara, truthfully, how good of a couple weeks hasen for president obama? >> better than a couple of weeks before that. you can say that. he limped across the finish line after the election and the shellacking as he said and everybody wondered would he be harry trueman or bill clinton? on the tax deal he did himself a lot of good. the voters deserted him and the party. they wanted him to be the post-party guy they voted for in 2008. they made the deal and it's popular. question now is whether the one-off thing or a model for the other deals or issues going forward? there will be knock-down fights where there isn't common ground. on a lot of issues. but maybe on the budget and deficit -- we'll have a huge debate about that. maybe there will be a chance for him to do it again. plus for him, no doubt about it. >> how successful has obama been rebranding and repositioning? >> let's not confuse a moment with a trend. this is a moment. a moment that the president had to be dragged kicking and screaming to. he was slow to declare victory. we

but the obama administration said yes. the treaty hasunting rules, these complex counting rules that have the effect of imposing tennellties on the yit if we want to convert long range nuclear systems into long range conventional systems. >> the pentagon says it's better to create new rockets. isn't that the case? that this isn't a problem because the pentagon preferred to create new weapons? >> i don't think there's a problem of either point. number one, you're correct on the pentagon. that's not the issue. on the other hand, the so-called leakage is not there and we don't accept the russian argument isn't there. >> let's go back to -- >> key factual point here. if you look at article 5 section three of the treaty, there's a limit on missile defense and the p preamble language. >> i think that's probably why we had the cold war, right? we basically bluffed them or convinced them, reagan them or reagan did, we could put up a shield against their ammo and said, whoa, we better call it quits. >> we have thatechnology that's better than the

obama. >>> a long-standing sports record has been tied. the chance are you haven't heard about the amazing feat the uconn women are ♪ [ female announcer ] keurig has over 200 varieties of gourmet coffee and tea to choose from. ♪ keurig is the way to brew fresh, delicious coffee in under a minute. way to brew. [ female announcer ] so with keurig, every cup tastes like it's brewed just forou. ♪ because it is. choose. brew. enjoy. keurig. >> alan: a rare work weekend in washington. the senate met most of the day to debate a new arms control treaty with russia. the final approval of the so-called new start treaty is uncertain. david curley has more. >> reporter: after legislative victories on the tax peel and repealing the "don't ask, don't tell" policy, president obama has his eyes on a third prize, his biggest. >> a treaty like start isn't about winning a victory for an administration or the political party. it's about the safety of the united states. >> reporter: the treat y, cutting number clear warheads on each side, would be a feather in

the country has been very hard on president obama. president obama has not done a very good job. david axelrod was the senior adviser. i think it is more political and more involved in looking at how the world sees the president and wanting to change that. it was more of that effort to get the president out of that bubble. they tried to do away with some of -- this president and cabinet are not listening to businesses and that is why business is not hiring and not investing. in new research and new facilities. i think that some of this change is coming. the media is part of the story. there is so much liberal media. oftentimes, people tune in to hear what they want to hear. >> how much do you think there might be between those coming into the house that were elected because of the tea party? especially long term members? >> in terms of a jump boehner's view, i think that a lot of the incoming freshmen related to the tea party movement. they did not have a lot but to have a lot of urgency and passion about them. for the republican leadership, even for some of the young people, who

hero by some and a villain by others by whether he thinks the average american really cares next has obama abandoned his own party many progressives are feeling betrayed especially after the president's recent compromise on tax cuts so with members of the left getting discouraged could obama really face a challenger in the primaries for two thousand and twelve we're going to ask marcy wheeler blogger for mt whelan firedoglake then should states be allowed to declare bankruptcy currently they can't but some republicans are toying with the idea of changing the laws we can't help but wonder what would a change like that mean for america's economic future we're going to host a debate on this issue at the end of the show but now let's move on to the day's top story. yesterday we glanced over what some are calling a cyber battle of sorts as a group known as anonymous has taken credit has taken credit for a string of high profile cyber attacks against the websites of businesses banks and politicians but either spoken at. against or stop doing business with whistle blowing web site wiki leaks thos

interest so there is a huge bipartisan support for the treaty among experts but not on the hill and obama has very little time to change that the start treaty is not just about reducing both countries' nuclear arsenals by a third seen as a symbol of trust between the two nuclear superpowers and obama made it clear that further cooperate. plans with russia could really go south without this place he stressed how important russia's assistance is in afghanistan how crucial russia's cooperation was on iran and the aspect of the u.s. and some other aspects of the u.s. russia reset and everybody here realizes that the new start is sort of milestone of this reset. that was artie's critical reporting from washington d.c. . well the talks over the atomic treaty get people of else cross-talk panel fired up in about two hours time here's a preview. there are enemies of an improved u.s. russia relationship in the united states but the point also has to be made that there are enemies of an improved u.s. russia relationship also in russia and and i think this agreement by getting this agreement ratified we

has been depleted. it is dangerously low. it is not simply the product, the determined opposition it was the process, and as one member said to me, "boy, this white house drive just off parkton." [laughter] >> obama has been trying to play with the other kid in the sandbox for the last two years. the issue is,, january, is he going to separate himself from the mass and be a leader and tried to do something different? >> members of congress are still trying to figure out how to come up money for the government. nancy pelosi says that you don't have to be straight to shoot straight. they're trying to decide whether it makes sense to put a lid on nuclearr weapons. "wall street journal" says that the 111th congress is the worst in modern history. do you agree, mark? >> no, the chief of our significant there were some gutsy encourage -- the achievements were significant. there was a gutsy and courageous votes cast. >> overall, it is a dysfunctional mess and the country knows it. the future of the country depends on some leadership, presidential leadership, which separates its the mass and figures out a way to make congress to do some big -- separates itself from the mess and figures out a way to make

what has happened since obama became president? deficit has gone through the roof because of health care and ridiculous spending. now the democrats are saying we've got to do something about the deficit. let's cut spending. >> there is an insatiable interest in taking the money from the job producers across the country. not only the federal level but the state level. we just got done in a campaign in washington state the state income tax build as high enders income tax. voters across the board rejected it by 28 points because they are tired of having money taken away and jobs leaving. >> you have to pay for these tax cuts. >> you have to have reasonable spending. >> sean: give me a percentage. i'm tired of this game. at what point is enough? somebody pays state, local and federal taxes, trippi and my question. if they pay 50% state, local and federal taxes that enough or are you going to call them greedy and selfish? >> this was done by republicans -- >> sean: can you answer the question, focus this is not that hard! what percentag

has an open heart. and -- >> larry: obama? >> obama. and he's cool.very smart. >> larry: is there a but coming? >> well, i had wished -- i even left town. i went to europe because of this last election. i couldn't face -- i didn't want to be here for this bloodbath. there was no reason for the republicans to win that many seats in the house i didn't think. and that was a -- you know, a mistake on the democrats part for not getting their message across, not communicating. all that they've done that's good. >> larry: what do you think of this deal to permit the tax decreases for the wealthy in return for the other things -- >> well, i think it's unfair but necessary. i mean in other words, to get the republicans to extend unemployment benefits, you know, which they only gave for 13 months as compared to two years of extending tax cuts for the wealthy? i mean, i'm one of those people who are going to benefit, as i'm sure you are, but it's not fair to working people in america. it's just not fair. so -- but i think, you know, hearing president clinton als

that is take a look at the main stories we're covering for you the south president obama has made a last ditch appeal for the less known makers to seal the nuclear cuts treaty with russia urging them to give it top priority for the session ends the senate is due to undergo a power shift which would allow republicans but unity is to block the agreement. and on the other side of the atlantic president pushes for new security treaty. i see some eighty told leaders of fifty six member states it's time to overcome the stereotypes of the past under solve the differences mentioned albums and. it's the final day of lobbying for countries trying to host the football world cup still twenty eight twenty twenty two people will decide tomorrow russia is among the favorites and force official say that when the lose the country will still benefit from the new stadium as. well as we've been reporting the presence of bombers urging the senate to hurry up with a start agreement with russia but we'll have el asks his guests in crosstalk domestic u.s. politics is interfering with foreign policy. and you can

crosstalk is coming up here on our team but first a look at the headlines president obama has made a last ditch appeal for u.s. lawmakers to seal the nuclear cuts treaty with russia urging them to give it top priority before the session ends the senate is due to undergo a power shift which would allow republicans more opportunities to block the agreement. and on the other side of the atlantic president bush is for new security treaty for europe i think oh well see you told the leaders of fifty six member states it's time to overcome the stereotypes something passed unresolved differences over conventional arms in europe. was the final day of lobbying for countries find to host the football world cup same twenty eighteen and twenty twenty two people will decide on thursday and russia is among the favorites sports officials say that win or lose the country will still benefit from the new stadium . now as we've been reporting president obama is urging the senate to hurry up with the start agreement with russia peter the bell asked his gaston cross-talk if domestic u.s. politics is inter

has rejected all amendments from republicans seeking to delay gratification of the start treaty with russia president obama has been personally contacting senators and intensifying at. to get the deal approved before we knew more republican majority senate is sworn in. as the headlines up next it's all good nosing to show spotlight and he's got us this time is russian deputy prime minister so don't miss it.

has mounted. president obama has made it exponentially worse all these republicans running around the country, my team saying we won't be like the other guys we learned our lesson this time we will do what we say, campaign like we govern, govern like we campaign let's make sure we hold each other accountable. if we don't, they should be thrown out. everybody says they've learned the lesson it is going to be different this time. now they have a chance to walk the walk. >> greta: you have an op-ed piece in which you talk about government employees. you say according to your op-ed piece government employees have an income of 120 three,000. you go after the unions. -- 123,000 and you go after the unions. >> i grew up in a meat packing downtown. i my dad was a truck driver. my mom died when i was 16. these unions played a role when workers were being exploited in places like coal mines and meat packing plants and other dangerous circumstances. now you have the biggest growth in unions in government employees. government unions. they are some of the most protected, secure employees in the country. they

where republicans feel greater responsibility for running the government, not just what president obama has done and the president is trying to indicate he's willing to meet the republicans halfway as well. >> john hared wood, thanks. >>> now to the latest on wikileaks. one week after the release of hundreds of thousands of state department cables, after companies in this country and france took down the wikileaks web site, sweden and switzerland became the main access points. as for the man behind wikileaks, he says he continues to receive death threats. peter alexander has the latest from london. peter, good evening. >> lester, good evening to you. one month to the day since julian assange was last seen publicly. the illusive founder of wikileaks remains defiant, now threatening he could expose another tidal wave of sensitive information if anything happens to him. >> reporter: it's a secret cache of unsensorored files. julian assange is threatening to release the archive of documents if his web site is shut down or he's arrested. assange told online readers that more than 100,000 people

the house has approved president obama's tax cut compromise with congressional republicans. it extends the bush era tax cuts another two years and extends jobless benefits for another 13 months. wikileaks founder julian assange has been released from a british jail. he will stay at an estate in london and fight extradition to sweden where he is wanted in a sex crime investigation. >> the government said terrorists may try to attack americans during holiday season. the f.b.i. and homeland security department are urging state departments to be on alert for suspicious behavior. they don't mention any specific threats to the u.s. transit police will begin randomly searching riders' bags on the metro. john gonzales has more. >> it is hard to find a metro rider not carrying a bag, backpack or purse these days. >> you know, laptop. materials for work. >> i'm a musician. i have music in my bag. >> metro is now making a drastic change to its security protocol immediately adding random bag checks. >> anything that makes it safer is better. >> officials say inspections will only take a

obama care has never had those things. >> you are still going to have a president take credit for somef the things already in place. not punishing kids for preexisting condition. >> bill: overall americans don't like obama care. >> many of it like it from the left. many wanted a public option. >> bill: i don't care where they are -- >> they wanted a more progressive plan. >> bill: did you not see the first segment? >> i did see it. i don't agree with it. >> bill: you and your crew are done. >> no. we are not done. i know it would make you feel good but we're not done. >> it's not true. >> bill: america has turned against you. >> everything is cyclical. when they see the party. >> bill: when i was at the white house party, obama said to me i hate that colmes guy. >> i didn't go. needed a food taster. >> bill: you admitted i am right. you guys are done. >> invited me to go to the party apparently got lost in the email. >> bill: i wouldn't be seen with new public anyway. i can't believe you don't understand after the november vote and after this humiliating compromise that you. >> you hav

has put i obama has put it forward. why hasn't it moved? epublicans who supported it, john mccain, lindsey graham and others say we are against it because it is obama's plan. that is the problem. we are not being honest about our support. people say it is about ideas but frequently the supporter of something based on the party the president belongs to. let's not be serious about problem-solving. it is stopping us from solving problems. to what the other ladies said, redistricting in open primaries are a good place to start. >> time for one more. >> a quick comment about the tea party. for douglas schoen to suggest that there is this back and forth, democrats of the same as the opponents is not true. what i see going on is the tea party sounds nice. there is the real extreme part of the tea party and then there's the american team party people. if that is true then why are the tea party candidates so radically extreme? if the tea party candidates represent this broad consensus of americans about smaller government and stuff, that is the legit

. >> president obama has led tributes to one of america's most experienced diplomats richard holbrooke who died following emergency heart surgery. mr. obama described mr. holbrooke as one of giants of american foreign policy. he was best none for helping to broker the dayton peace agreement which ended the bosnian conflict. his most recent role was as obama's special representative in pakistan and afghanistan. we look back at his life. >> peace negotiator and veteran troubleshooter richard holbrooke served as envoy to more than one u.s. president. he was point man on probably america's most troublesome overseas problem, averages and -- pakistan and afghanistan. he was famous for blunt speaking behind the scenes despite the hand shakes and courtesy in public. >> with president karzai, i carried a personal message from president obama. >> his active interest in asia spanned his career as a diplomat. he made frequent visits during his tenure as u.s. ambassador of the united nations, like here to china. he started his career as a vietnamese specialist on the delegation at the paris peace t

but no president has ever had to deal with as many senate filibusters, and yet president obama hasn't let that get in his way. for the record, for the record, in the last 24 months in office, president obama passed the largest stimulus bill in american history. he saved the automobile industry with a loan which was on the brink of disaster. he pass said the greatest health care reform in the last 50 years in this country. he passed over 16 measures to spur small business and now he's put more money into the pockets of the middle class americans in this country than any president ever has. the ledger is long but maybe the credit isn't coming because this fight has been so hard. john boehner, by the way, was a no-show today and reacted to the bill this morning. >> the congress has acted to stop all of the tax hikes that were scheduled to go into effect january the 1st. but it's a good first step, now let's be clear if we actually want to help our economy get back on track and to begin creating jobs we need to end the job killing spending binge, we need to cut spending significantly, and

about as much chance of beating barack obama as you do. >> anyone with an economic plan hasy? >> wait, i'm wrong. government jobs he's created. and stimulus that he hasn't used. [ talking over each other ] >> the point is you are tying to work on him already it is not 2012. >> i think he will go down in history as the ed sell of politics. -- edsel of politics, shiney, chrome, bells, exist s and he's going to be a one-termer, my lips to god's ear. the people just keep following him lem ming-like into the sea. they kind of come around. >> he had to get bill clinton to stand up for him. >> sean: don't you think that was embarrassing beckel? >> no, i think obama was right to let him explain his policy. >> sean: john boehner is going to be the next speaker of the house. on election night he got emotional. he was on "60 minutes" last night and he got emotional. liberals are attacking him for doing this. >> there are some things that are very difficult to talk about. family, kids. i can't go to a school any more. i used to go to a lot of schools. i see all these little kids running

the envoy has acted as president obama as a troubleshooter. -- president obama's troubleshooter. he says that he should act with restraint. the trusty who was recovering funds from bernie madoff has made a multibillion-dollar discovery. he received $7.2 billion from the scheme. that means that roughly half of the money lost in this window will be -- lost in the fraud scheme will be given back. >> bernie madoff arrived in court from prison looking somber. the authorities have been trying to get back some of his ill- gotten gains which includes a manhattan penthouse and other properties in palm beach, florida. his victims to claim that the bank's work implicit campaign for justice. now there is a florida businessman who has agreed to return more than $7 billion, about 1/3 of the money investors lost. >> this represents the largest forfeiture recovery in u.s. history. the settlement provides a significant measure of hope for the many victims of bernie madoff's crimes, crimes which were described as extraordinarily evil. the settlement is the most substantial to date in the ongoing ef

number two, president obama has got to govern. if he governs, if he does things like bringing about the compromise like he did on the tax bill, if he does that on education, if he does it on energy and if he's real serious about and puts in place significant steps towards decifit reduction, i think you'll see those numbers among independents go way, way up. megyn: let me ask you, there was a piece by karl rove talking about how president obama's approval rating, particularly with independents, talking about how independents voted republican in november by a 58-39 percent margin, which isn't too shocking given what we just saw from gallup, the lower approval ratings amongst the independents for the president, he says that the problem president obama has is that he's had a negative message to many times, that he says he's incapable of constructing a positive narrative, and has just been sort of finding different boogiemen, talking about the wall street fat cats and attacking rush limbaugh or taking shots at people who back things th

i think the importance of what has happened over the last ten days is that obama has shown all it be with a lame duck congress as al says, with a lot of people who are willing to konsyl yate but will be replaced by people without won't, obama has still showed that you can make government work. he came to washington with that promise. he was going to govern across the traditional party lines, red state, blue state divisions. he didn't really deliver on it in a palpable way until the end. but i think the fact that he did will be reassuring abroad. and i would just note as a counterpoint to what al said a moment ago, yes, the new congress coming in is going to be a lot more abrasive but they're going to have to deal with the feeling, and i think it's a good feeling at year end, at christmas time that gosh, washington finally did some things. and so you know, running against washington, running against this washington that the public seems to hate i think will be harder. on the questions that will dominate next year about reducing the deficit, about our fiscal problems, i think if obama d

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president obama has made a last ditch appeal for u.s. lawmakers to seal the nuclear treaty with russia to give it top priority before the session ends. meet with power shift which would allow republicans more opportunities to develop nuclear weapons. it's the final day of lobbying for countries find the football club cups in france and eighteen and twenty twenty two people will decide tomorrow and russia is among the favorites sports officials say they're going to lose countries to benefit from the stadiums. and f.b.i. tactics on the scrutiny as it's accused of framing a terror suspect says it prevented the teenage somali american complaining the performance of christmas not sending his lawyers say he was manipulated. or sports news there. hello and welcome to the latest sports update here now to the headlines for. latest from this very queer the russian bid team awaits the decision on the train for twenty eighteen world cup. spanish shock barcelona rally. five zero in the past. the primera liga season. and also we previewed say it's als

obama meeting to step up on domestic policy. it is the same issue with a foreign policy. he has had to ask himself, will stand up against my own defense establishment? the national security state is a powerful thing. in his first term, he went along with them. you what our troops for afghanistan, ok, i will give them to you. now people have to stand up and ask and sell the basic question -- now he will have to stand up and ask himself a basic question, will i stand up to the defense establishment, or to a risky thing and really start pulling out? >> alexander the great, the british, the russians -- what does barack obama and the defense establishment have to offer is that they did not? >> if you are pessimistic, you think karzai and corruption and unreliable pakistanis. if you think in the shorter run, the tactical level, i believe the administration when it says they are making progress, meaning they are expanding the circle of the territory in the pashtun areas in the south and kandahar, where we are in control and not the taliban. the taliban, remember, have an approval level

your organization has run television ads in states indicating that president obama has broken his promise on this. what is the next move for you? >> yeah. our success, the success of millions of progressives and former obama supporters will not be judged in the vote tally. it will be judged by whether this is a learning moment, a learning moment for democrats and a learning moment for republicans. what's the learning that democrats need to have? they need to have a learning that says when you go into negotiation, you don't go into it putting all your cards on the table. you don't say if the republicans are willing to take a hostage and hurt a hostage, we will cave. you don't go into it saying we'll be bound by an artificial deadline or we must work together with republicans. you go into it saying if the republicans are on the wrong side of the public in this issue, there will be political pain back home. for republicans, they need to learn that there will be political pain back home. tomorrow, the progressive change campaign committee will be sending an e-mail to our 27,000 members in mas