joining me for tonight's low rumble our chris allman conservative commentator and activist and horace cooper common conservative commentator and senior fellow with the national center for public policy research welcome back to both of you claim to see it and i see you two words so despite what the talking heads of over at fox are saying this is really great news for america is not i mean we're seeing the fulfillment of what paul ryan mitt romney and the heritage foundation were calling . i. yeah i'm almost speechless at your introduction it's a good thing that more americans don't have to work except for tom you know what do you know what social scientists have found out leads to real happiness earned success not a subsidy from the government not a nurse or sister from from working long hours or a crappy job no but you're saying it doesn't exist you don't have to work but one of the best ways to get to earn success yeah working long hours at a crappy job that's that's about it hard to work out if it cannot and you know you can't get the job you love unless you have a global you love a we're

back to the i will join our chris allman and horace cooper let's get back to it to celebrate it's the shortest month of the year so of course it's black history month february. so i say that. ironically i think it's just it's anyway it has nothing to do with when they want anything that right i don't know. yes i don't know what i don't know how february that's been you know this. in any case the r. and c. has released a number of radio ads in. largely black cities like atlanta detroit that honor the accomplishment of so-called republican trailblazers here's an example. this is republican national committee chairman ryan supreme but this black history month the republican party honors the achievements of black republican trailblazers including ohio judge sarah harper michigan businessman bill brooks and dr louis sullivan of georgia please join us as we celebrate those who make a difference made history and remain an inspiration to us all. paid for by the republican national committee. so first of all louis sullivan who they just mentioned he used to work in the george h.w. bush adminis

joining me for that i saw a little rumble are horace cooper attorney and senior fellow of the national center for public policy research and kevin martin member of the project twenty one black leadership network thank you both for joining me murder by culture you guys heard my rant kevin you were you were making faces there and you don't think that white people are afraid of black people and that a law that says that if you assert that you are afraid you therefore have the right to shoot people you don't accept those two premises let me say this most lived in washington d.c. all by life ok i've been robbed three times in a by why i could tell you that ok so you're saying that there's a legitimate basis i don't know you could be able to operate a black you know i'm not i'm not saying it's a little bit of base i'm saying that when you're walking down the street whether be a man woman wherever anybody can do anything to you it doesn't matter what skin color they are ok that's like saying that every woman should feel like me because ninety percent right this is a they are ninety percent of

helping with this is jerry gibbons, horace cooper, former law professor, now with the national center for public policy research, aaron haynie, an attorney. i want to start with you first, louisiana recently used an execution, drugs to kill dennis mcfire. and some are calling for executions now. and what is the main concern. >> the main concern, and the person who tweeted in earlier hit on it. is there a moral way in an ethical way for the state to execute member? and by and large, whatever method we have tried, we have found there is not. initially, in california, we had executions by gas chamber, and it was found to be unconstitutional and to constoot cruel and unusual punishment. as a result of that, we have turned to lethal injection. there are protocols, but to use like ohio did. two drugs, a protocol that has not been tested. and what we don't know what's happening when we are executing the person, those go beyond unethical, and it's experimenting on those condemned to die. >> do you think the ingredients in the lethal injection cocktails and who is making them should at least t

from texas, we are joined by horace cooper, a fellow at project 21. >> that's an initiative of the nationalenter for public policy research, national leadership network of blacks. welcome everyone. i want to start with you desmond, you served three years of a 15-year sentence. what condition did you find yourself in mentally and physically when you were released from prison? >> well, one of the statements that really resonated with me was when one of the catholic priests said we get caught, we get punished. we serve our time. the minute we walk out of those prison gates, the minute door close, that's when our real sentence begins. and so as i was released from prison, you know, that's when my journey really started. the obstacles were there that were placed in front of me. i was released homeless, living on the streets right out of prison can didn't have id, didn't have any formal financial support. so, i had to go into a shelter while looking for jobs, there were a lot of opportunities that were lost because of my prior felony conviction and that, in turn, kind of became discouraging and i