s. issued sanctions against officials at the i c. c. back then secretary of state mike palm peo accused the court of, quote, illegitimate attempts to subject americans to its jurisdiction. that was because the i c. c wanted to investigate us forces war crimes in afghanistan. now correct me if i'm wrong, but this seems to me like the u. s. coercing or forcing the i c. c to drop the investigation. dissuade them. if i'm being generous, what do you think you have to keep in mind that the the united states um does not accept the jurisdiction of the i, c. c. you know, neither those russian, neither those china, neither does india. on. on the other hand, the united states cooperates very actively with the i c. c in directing it against others. so you know, often you know, these do gooder types, you know, who think that it's a great idea to have these on international tribunals. they are saying, well, yeah, i mean, so you know, it, it's great to have international try. it was what you might say needs to cooperate with it. i mean, it's a, it's no

ah, when the i c c issues, it's the indictments. i mean, the whole purpose of this is that it's the adversaries of the united states who are targeted by the i c, c. and, and that's the function of these are these strange international legal bodies that are before the i, c. c was the international criminal tribunal for the former yugoslavia. that at various times during the count they came out with politically opportune indictments . so united 1995 just as p stocks are about to begin it in diets rather than carriage and radical luggage to prevent them from taking bought the piece looks same thing and during the cost of a bombing bone. right, right, right. as the bombing is losing support domestically, the i c t y comes out within the dive, mental alpha and also it. so this is entirely predictable that at some point the i, c, c would issue an arrest warrant or an indictment. and this is of, of course, the 1st of a series. i mean it's not going to stop it. they're going to be issuing indictment, offer indictment off to jail. just like w

united states did not subscribe to the i c. c, publicly because the united states knew that underneath the covers as of war, it was going to influence the i c. c to do its bidding. and that's precisely what it began to do. you notice we went after black african leaders. we didn't go after any white people until we got into the balkans and we had people like meliss of it and garage and others who were quote, worth going after, unquote. the i, c, c was a tool of the united states in every respect, just as the u. n. is often a 2 of the united states when it does, it's bitty. so the i, c, c is not something i look at as an organization. bit to do justice in the world. and i'll give you an example of concrete example. when i was in paris in 2019, the germans brought some people over to talk to us about torture. that was our all sensible purpose for being in paris. was the germans also brought a young lady who was a brilliant prosecutor for the i c. c. and she was in the 1st stage of her investigation where prosecutorial regulations an

so i don't look at the i . c. c is a bulwark of justice on the global face. well, it's interesting that the i, c, c would rear its head gray because, you know, again, 20 years ago, the illegal invasion of iraq and the arc techs of that war have never been held account, no one that one. okay. not even the media. okay. and then the, the i cc conveniently is deployed again, which has to remind our audience the united states is not a signatory to russia is not. and neither is ukraine. go ahead and just want this one. your lead larry, go ahead. yeah, during this time that i was learning this from mister bolton, mister bolton was going all over the world and bending capitals, arms, and paying capitals of countries all across the globe to sign these agreements that guaranteed that were us troops deployed on their soil would never bring prosecution against one very good mania that re go ahead jump in. well, i have to agree that the, i see even other, other parts of the learning apparatus are all tightly controlled by the u. s. and the people they've put in office ther

recognize the cause, the kremlin says the warrants have no force. moose, somebody are new to the i, c. c. is it in the hands of the collective west, which is always willing to carry out pseudo jurisdiction based on their orders of a i. c. c was set up 21 years ago and is based in the hague. the court has tried and convicted people of war crimes, notably in africa. the former yugoslavia. it's jurisdiction is recognized by a 123 countries, but not by russia, china, the us and israel, among others. a short time ago i spoke to the i, c. c. the president asked him if he thought the warrants might ever be executed. so the issue that may know the international criminal court has not had their own enforcement mechanism. and in respect to the enforcement of the decision and judgements of the car needs to rely on the corporation of states. so it's obviously disabled. there are arrest warrants, or, or so after the arrest forms of the issues that are on vacation to all the c. 123 states parties and the states have the legal obligation to cooperate fully with the court according to their own standard

the i c. c was the russian president on children, wives commissioner, and the don't call it, i just will crimes charges. the have claims. the officials are responsible for deporting children. allegations, previously voiced by care of the ccs jurisdiction, is not recognized by countries including russia, china and the us. here's the reaction from russia as foreign ministry spokeswoman. decisions of the international criminal court have no significance for country, including from legal standpoint, ro, she's not a participant of the room statute of the international criminal court and has no obligations under the statute. pressure does not cooperate with this body and possible recipes for us from the i. c. c will be null and void to us. let's go live to form or austrian foreign minister. karen can, i will not discuss this further many thanks for joining us on the program this evening. well, karen, plenty of countries don't actually recognize the have decisions that includes russia, china, and even

well, as we know, russia doesn't recognize the jurisdiction of the i, c. c, but many other countries do. so how do you think this will affect his behavior going forward? i think he will now use the arrest warrant. i have another 2 to read it in this propaganda. this is just another tom of the west of russia, a national criminal court as a weapon in this war. so for now, again, we'll see if in the future there may be possibilities to and plus the service board . so tell us, what is the next step in terms of the i c c proceedings? and the next step is waiting until this arrest, the international criminal court does not have the possibility to try a person in that sense. yeah. so the prosecutor will continue to collect other evidence, and then he has to wait until putting a surrender to the international criminal court. professor stephanie balk, thank you very much for your time. thanks. and vladimir putin is due to welcome china's president choosing, paying for talks in moscow next week. the visit will be, she's 1st to russia in nearly 4 years. a kremlin offic

the cause, the kremlin says the warrants have no force moose, somebody, and you have to look at the i. c. c. is it in the hands of the collective west, which is always willing to carry out the pseudo jurisdiction based on their orders of a i. c. c was set up 21 years ago and is based in the hague. the court has tried and convicted people of war crimes, notably in africa. the former yugoslavia, its jurisdiction is recognized by a 123 countries, but not by russia, china, the us and israel, among others. a short time ago i spoke to the i, c. c. the president asked him if he thought the warrant might ever be executed. so issue may know the international criminal court has not the own forestman mechanism. and in respect to, to the force of the decision and judgements of the car needs to rely on the cooperation of states. so is obvious. he disabled the arrest worms. so after the arrest will be issued on cation 2, oldest $123.00 states parties. and the states have the legal obligation to cooperate fully with the court and according to their own status, which may never happen. coding trying, unless

the charges are the says that the i c. c has even laid against the heat of a permanent member of the you in security council, russian president vladimir putin and his commissioner for children's rights. and now wanted for war crimes. there alleged to have been responsible for ukrainian children being forced from the occupied cities and seemed to live in russia. judges f reviewed the information and evidence submitted by the prosecutor and determined that debt are credible allegations against dees persons for the alleged crimes. dicey c is doing it's part of work. as a court of law, the judges issued arrest warrants. the execution depends on international cooperation. the charge is being welcomed in ukraine, where officials have been sounding the alarm for months. while he is older, they are suspect in the illegal forced transfer of ukrainian children. this means that from now, until his arrest president of russia, as the head of a terrace is t, it will be afraid to travel outside russia because of the possibility that he wil

yes, and they have been pressuring the i c. c to issue arrest warrants for quite some time. my. they been working together with the cranium, prosecutor general, who immediately tweeted, welcoming the saying that they've been giving thousands of documents to the i. c. c . working together to try and build a case that would lead up to these kinds of moves. quoting 16000 children, at least that have been forcibly to ported, abducted from ukrainian territory and into russian held territory. so very much welcome saying is just the beginning pointing out to the top leadership of moscow and that there, it will be accountability. it is, of course, as we know in the past, not that easy, but certainly hugely significant that this is now been issued by the i to see an arrest warrant for the russian president. and as you heard our colleague james basing, i think you'll be speaking to him a little bit later. you know, when it comes to international conferences and, you know, president putin traveling to other countries. this now completely changes the game on that. indeed, look, stephanie is

c. c over crime committed on territory. and right now we know that 42 i c c members have on the organizations to investigate. that means that the crime committed during the russian special ministry operation in ukraine or within the competence of the court. but quite obvious that if we talk about russia, ty, writing official, it will be hard to bring them to justice because the court kind of process cases sense. yeah. so the trials, well are going to be pretty, pretty hot, say, probably say to process, you'll yes, approval over there speaking to us with moss from moscow, with the russian perspective. thank you so much. judy. now meeting on and turkish president recipe. babylon says he will now support finland's, been to join nato, and up and after his meeting with the finished president, sally, in any sto, and ankara said that the turkish parliament will begin ratifying how think he is bid to k had previously blocked both been and, and sweden's bits, citing security concerns often, and president sally in the service says that the bid would be incomplete wit

you were the i, c, c had jurisdiction, but didn't do anything to bring those guilty. little account driven with copious russia does not participate in the rome stature says good. the i c. c. 's. jurisdiction does not cover russia, and it says guys who we consider all the documents from his body as a legal up and for him to use her dish or the un security council meeting began with a rather dramatic interaction. russia had put forward to speak, a humanitarian activist from the don at people's republic. and we saw the united states and its allies maneuver with a bow to prove that this person from taking the floor at the security council meeting and briefing about the humanitarian situation in the don at peebles republic. now, the russian ambassador was quick to call out this maneuver for what it was censorship and silencing of the truth that the un security council zuniga stood. we regret the fact that a number of delegations today have spoken out against that. don't ask human rights speaker. we propose and broom, we see in this the manifestation of hypocrisy and double

but in countries signed up to the i. c. c, recognizing their obligation to deliver on its orders in the name of international justice like south africa, a signatory to the i, c. c, which failed to arrest sedans, omar, her son, alba, sheer on an i. c. c warrant. when he visited the country in 2015, president putin is due there for a summit in august and the south african press, he says, is he is aware of its legal obligations for mister booting may have to rethink his plans. now a wanted man in the international criminal courts. quest for justice jo, a whole alger 0 lumber ah the window of opportunity to beat climate change is rapidly closing. and extreme weather events will only get worse unless the world acts. now, as the start predictions outlined in a un report that's expected to shape climate policy in the years to come, our environment as a nic clark has more in every country on every continent, the climate emergency is taking hold. this is milan away, hundreds dead, hundreds of thousands displaced. the cause, a record b

that founded the i c. c. but perhaps most of the western ones and they will be pledges of funding. there will be pledges of board resources to help the i c. c to support it. it's ongoing sort of investigations into war crimes in ukraine that will eventually of course be a vast scope and will take many years. and we'll have to look both ways. it's not just the russians who have committed war crimes, in all likelihood. it is a country at war. but it's a collective sort of re affirming of commitment to that journey towards international justice. the 1st big step, of course, on that journey with these arrest warrants for prison food present, president putin and his children's rights commissioner on friday arrest warrants that raise a number of questions that will be discussed here at will he ever president putin see the inside of a dock at the i. c. c onset probably not rusher is not a signatory to the i. c. c. some countries that it still does business with are those like south africa? what happens for instance in august, if president putin as expected attends a brick summit? there in

well, jeffrey, nice lead the i c. c. prosecution of slow, but on the loss of its former president of serbia, he thinks the charges are important for their wider implication. by satisfying the judges of ref, lawrence's appropriate, this man, putin, is now the property to be careful, characterized as a criminal and the war that he has long can properly now be characterized as itself criminal. the court has found that there is evidence show both of those things and they are very important. not just because of putin because of what's called accountability. because for example, those who are seeking to relieve russia of its power of veto in the security council by having it suspended number of people doing that. stuffing with ukrainian parliamentarians will not have reinforcement in their argument. this country should not have the veto in the security council were to lose the veto by one means or another. then it would be open to united nations to have push in, tried for aggression. she can't be tried for at the moment becau

ledge, deportation of children and ukraine, to russia. russia's investigative committee call the i. c. c. warranty, deliberate attack on an innocent person. meanwhile, the u. k. on the other ones are hosting an international conference to sharp support for the i. c. c. britain's justice secretary dominic rob said that the court's decision to issue an arrest warrant of putin was a historic moment in the war. that sentence a much stronger and more far reaching message right around the world to deswartz and dictate is everywhere that they will be brought to justice, that they will be held to account. and as we come together today, i hope and i believe it says to underline the importance of ensuring that the i c. c has every support for the crucial what that it is doing. escort served to joe hull, his monitoring events for us from london. and so it does seem jonah that with an eye on what might be said in moscow, european politicians certainly will be discussing how they can really help the i c . c. further yet 40 of them just as ministers gathered in lancaster house behind me hosted by the

but in countries signed up to the i. c. c, recognizing their obligation to deliver on its orders in the name of international justice like south africa, a signatory to the i, c. c, which failed to arrest sedans. omar has son, alba, sheer on an icpc warrant when he visited the country in 2015. our president, putin is due there for a summit in august, and the south african presidency says it is aware of its legal obligations. mister putin may have to rethink his plan. now a wanted man in the international criminal court quest for justice jo whole al jazeera london. and president putin says russia will supply a free grain to africa to avoid food shortages if he ukrainian black c export deal falls apart in may. he was speaking at a russia africa parliamentary conference dealer now ukrainian gray, next port to ship you safe passage, pass the russian navy on the back. see it was renewed on saturday for 60 days. but ukraine, along with the un into kia, broke of the deal, wanted 120 day. when you are french president emmanuel nicole'

the i c. c. once the russian president and children's rights commission and the doc call alleged war crimes charges. the have claims the officials are responsible for deporting children allegations previously voiced by key. if the i c. c, easter restriction is not recognized by countries including russia, china, and the us. here is the reaction from russia's foreign ministry spokeswoman. decisions of the international criminal court have no significance for country, including from legal standpoint. russia is not a participant of the room statute of the international criminal court and has no obligations under the statute. russian does not cooperate with this body and possible recipes for us from the i. c. c will be null and void to us. let's discuss this with our guess. the 1st laughter don kovachick human and labor rights lawyer. many thanks for joining us on a program down. so plenty of countries don't actually recognize the have decisions i've includes russia, china and even the us. so what's y

but ukraine has been in big area of focus for him since taking over the prosecutor at the i. c. c. he's been there, i think 4 times, alleged thousands of pages of evidence and related to various kinds, not just these particular crimes of the force of the transfer of children, but other crimes war crimes against humanity under the statues. possibly even genocide. and i, i just noticed that the roof warren, today that was issued was issued for vladimir putin, but also for russia's commissioner, for children's rights, are a woman. and i'm wondering if she is on this warrant arrest warrant is as well because the chances of actually physically arresting her in the eyes of the i. c. c may be, are more realistic. i mean, is that maybe a line of thinking that went into the issuing of this arrest warm i think the reason she's the restaurant has been issued against her is that the evidence is, is pretty overwhelming. you know, there is a recording that there of her talking about her own adoption of the child from one of these occupied cherry trees. her office has been allegedly responsible fo

the i c. c said it's in connection with allegations of war crimes and ukraine. cremins full, the move, outrageous and unacceptable. this been our 1st hello for global banking stalks on friday, despite support shown by big us lenders for smaller one from 1st republic bank. yes, president joe biden school for congress to impose tough a punishment on bank. a turkish president worship type vote along as agreed to stop the process to ratify finland's nato membership. but he says he will continue. discussions with sweden about what anchor says is a lack of commitment to fight. right. police have confronted angry, protested for a 2nd day in paris. there were violent demonstrations outside parliament against controversial pension reforms. on thursday, the government bypassed parliament to push through a plan to raise a retirement age from 62 to 64. natasha butler, as more from paris, with a number of french ministers have been trying to defend the pension reform. and the way 8 was forced through by decr

you can conclude mr. president with a few of you, i turn to the order on by the i c. c that was mentioned here today. the warrant. this is a prejudiced political bias, non competent in international body, which has once again demonstrated how damaging and invalid it is. the i c. c is a puppet in the hands of the collective west, which is always willing to carried out to pseudo legal pseudo jurisdiction based on their borders. what is particular, cit, cynical, is that legal invalid rulings were disclose on the eve of the anniversary of the u . s. invasion into iraq, where the i c, c had jurisdiction, but did absolutely nothing to bring the perpetrators to account the russian federation is not to party to the rome statute. the i. c. c. last jurisdiction piece of the russian federation of citizens considered. we consider any body any warrants from these than from this body as illegitimate and invalid, and null and void on all indicators i. c. c has really taken the path towards self liquidation, 1st and foremost with respect to its authority and international recognition.

the i. c. c claims is focusing on the abduction and unlawful deportation of children from occupied areas of ukraine to russia. i welcome to moscow, says russia's commissioner for children's rights. as a group of smiling children get off a plane. they're greeted with cheers and balloons. propaganda videos like these are common on russian social media channels. this one shows children and teens arriving in moscow by train as anxious, foster parents wait to greet them on the platform. we will be the roots. this puts even more responsibility on us to really become their true parents. sorry, i can't talk any more room. yes. the c n. as the public face of the kremlin back program, the i c. c has also issued an arrest warrant for russia's commissioner for children's rights scene here with her boss vladimir putin. the i, c c, says the to bear criminal responsibility for the abductions and deportations. the kremlin coffee allegations outrageous former president dmitri medford of even compared the warrants

he dismissed the authority of the i. c. c. you know, to do this is the prejudice polish biased and non competent and international body which has once again demonstrated how damaging and invalid it is. the i, c, c, the pop it in the hands of the collective west, which is always willing to carried out to pseudo legal pseudo jurisdiction based on their border. the russian federation is not party to the rome statute need missing the i. c. c. last jurisdiction used to be the russian federation of citizens. consider we consider anybody any warrant from the 7 this body as illegitimate and invalid, and now employed. meanwhile, ukraine present automated landscape. welcome to this decision from the icpc is. this is a historic decision that will lead to historic responsibility the head of a terrorist state, and another russian official have officially become suffix in a war crime. in the people taishan of ukrainian children, the illegal transfer of thousands of our children to the territory of a terrorist state in the criminal proceeding

daniel hawkins as and journalist and moscow, he says that, and we'll try to show the i, c, c has no power in russia. this is, of course, going to be very difficult to enforce the i c. c has no police force of the law as a member to carry out and will re direct and ring suspects to trial for the have luxury of course, will view this as a, as a will, will be this personal and angered by this russian very much focus on case president of the icpc, which is founded very called previously prosecutions and bring us the trial most likely to be trying to investigate and prosecute us will cons. dana thornton, allegations with crimes are territories. russell, very much focus on this and highlight those case for evidence to show that the i c, c has no power, has no jurisdiction in russia. and this will really change very liberal in the common policy on ukraine, presented as the orphans, as people certainly have been abandoned to a taken from a war, them to safety, to get monetary system. we how the russian media is portraying that was also showed in the reaction of somebody who live over below the ru

if traveling to any of the $123.00 i. c. c member states. brewton is only the 3rd serving president who have been issued, an i c. c. arrest warrant after sedans, omar bashir, and libby as mama gadhafi and diplomatic editor james bass has more in his now from the united nations, a sitting head of state. and one of the most powerful men in the world, the president of russia, president of a superpower, president of a country that is a permanent member of the un security council. yes, i think people were expecting the i c. c, to come up with some list of people that they had cases against, that was expected, but not many the right people i've spoken to were expecting that the ban of the top of the tree in russia vladimir putin was going to be one of those named so he is now a wanted man. there are $123.00 conscious which of signed the rome statute? that's the statute that governs the international criminal court. they are obliged to arrest him if he enters that territory. now, president putin hasn't travelled much since the start

earlier i spoke with the president of the i c. c, piazza, huffman ski, and he told me the fact that russia doesn't recognize the i c. c as a relevant to the case. let me stress that the court has jurisdiction over a crime committed by any one on the territory of the ukraine. from november, 2013 onwards. deb, regardless of of, of her nationality of dallas perpetrators, include the statute, old estate, forties of the legal obligation to cooperate fully with the court. and obviously their obligation to corporate covers also the obligation to arrest person in respect to which terrace watson this is the situation is obviously still in the hands of the prosecutor so far that there were 2 requests for doris words of the base of district west doris. wasn't the issued but the, obviously, it does not mean that it is the end of the, of the, of the situation of the cases. and the case cases can be expanded so that you allegation, maybe formulate that can be made formulated by the prosecutor. here on the basis of collected information evidence.

, of the unlawful transfer of these from occupied areas of ukraine to the russian federation, the i c, c, or investigator of the i. c. c is saying that there are reasonable grounds to believe that mister putin bears individual criminal responsibility for the, for these crimes. i'm sorry, this is basically what has been put towards to team. so the say we know the chargers we know the case if you like, what is expected to happen next? well i'm now of course they, they have issued an arrest warrant in order to get hold of him as long as there is a person not been taken custody off. there is nothing that can seriously happen. no judicial proceeding can go forward. m. s. already heard as well that russia is not a member of this court and is not a signature state of the rome statute, which is the basis of this. but another 123 states are and these are 123 states, are bound by the obligations. so for now, it is maybe more symbolic, but it is nevertheless, a strong sign. it's only the early stages of this story, but had there been any reactions to the one thing you should there and there has bee

that's by no means all of the signatories, the rome statute that founded the i c. c. but perhaps most of the western ones and they will be pledges of funding. there will be pledges of more resources to help the i c. c to support it. it's ongoing sort of investigations into war crimes in ukraine that will eventually of course be a vast scope and will take many years. and we'll have to look both ways. it's not just the russians who are committing war crimes in all likelihood. it is a country at war, but it's a collective sort of re affirming of commitment to that journey towards international justice. the 1st big step, of course, on that journey, were these arrest warrants for prison food present. president putin and his children's rights commissioner on friday arrest warrants that raise a number of questions that will be discussed here at will he ever president putin see the inside of a dock at the i. c. c onset, probably not. russia is not a signatory to the i. c. c. some countries that it still does business with are those like south africa? what happens, for instance

and it's absolutely vital that we unite behind the i, c. c, and that we support the office of the prosecutor with whatever it needs appealing for support. the i. c, c's chief prosecutor said the very concept of international justice was at stake. if we don't, at this moment in world affairs cling to the law. if we don't look at ourselves and decide how we can do better, not just in ukraine, but as nations as member states of the united nations. we will not only miss an opportunity, but we may not have further opportunities. high on everyone's agenda was the 1st major step on that journey arrest warrants issued last week for russian president vladimir putin. and his children's rights commissioner charged with the illegal deportation of ukrainian children. russia's response a day off, the president putin, to the ukrainian city of mary paul now. and the russian occupation was to issue criminal charges against the icpc itself for ignoring kootenai immunity as head of state under international law. so the chief prosecutor of the i c. c. kareem kha