don't you know members of the i, c c. i mean what is the, is c c able to base this arrest warrant on, in terms of jurisdiction? can you explain that to us? so yeah, the jurisdiction this is, it's a little complicated but not overly so. so protest, i'm ratified the statues in 2015 uh 8 years ago or more. i referred the situation to the courts investigation has been ongoing now for a number of years and of one of the steps previous investigation, the band prosecutor factory. but as to that, off the pre trial chamber to determine the territory jurisdiction in the situation by the side of a pre charge for your time to determine if that jurisdiction exists. so basically, any crimes within the jurisdiction of the court committed on the territory of palestine are within its jurisdiction. likewise, i mean crimes committed by national as of the state party, in this case palestinian options. they also fall within the jurisdiction of the state party. we jurisdictions the course, which is why the prosecutor has been able to seek a res

i had to monday of i c. c announcement, target israel and we will talk to you that a warning letter for me. it doesn't us for public incentives that threatened to cut funding and sanction i. c c stuff and their families. 3 this is, bill is a today in the me, a talk over the risk for and is unlikely to have an immediate impact on the war which has killed more than 35000 palestinians and displaced millions more since october. some of the javi was there like a well let's go live now to the international criminal court in the hague. step voss and the as the end step, a very bold move by the i c. c. the 1st stage and what could be arrest warrants brought against these permanent figures and this conflict will cause through the significance of the move. yes, this is one of the most high profile cases, the isis. he has ever unbox upon a. we know, of course, at last year there was an arrest for one, issued against the russian president vladimir solution. but now, just as an arrest warrant against us to lead us from a c

the un, the i, c, c i, c, j to proceed with these. lemme, i will be the rest against the west agenda. i think they will fail, but the question to the supposed to be 0 time, which on a good day place to care about international lower than that institutional architecture and the criminal. ready it's in the us. what is that we should all be willing to continue to pay the costs for running public as well, which is don't through the roof. exponentially installation of that costs the opposite, so far as the yes and the list, unless they change the outgoing to collapse the whole thing around them in order to defend these writing more crimes and the all types of homes finally came up on a minute left. what are the chances of us ever seeing those accused appearing before the international criminal? oh, that's a difficult one to projects and i would have sold the chances of seeing the mass lead as well. high as and a thing be is right and you need is just because of the, you know, the press a political support might be stronger. but i mean, who

there is a sense here of us double standards and people point to march of last year when the i c. c issued an arrest warrant for russian president vladimir, put in for alleged war crimes in ukraine at the time the us and other western countries mostly applauded that decision by the i c. c. but now when the icpc closes in on arrest warrants for is really officials the us cause it outrages gabriel's on don't. how does either united nations in new york so meanwhile, on the ground and gaza is really a types of killed at least a $106.00 palestinian since sunday in northern gaza. is there any forces of targeted residential squared and beta? how many of the victims for women and children acts was on the rich reports? because you had the what is really palm so raining down again, the northern does the targeting civilian areas and monday morning explosions hit the most of the neighborhood debate last year. building scramble, trapping people into rubbish. panic spread among thousands of philistines shelter, and here i was passing through this road and all of a sudden the earth was shaking as

and we certainly will not join the i c, c. we will let the i c, c die on its own. after all, for all intents and purposes, the i, c, c is already dead us. so don't both, and then making the us, it's done. so in the eyes they say very, to fast forward, just a few. yes. and washington was fully suppose to be i see, see an issue. i'm going to rest words. you can slide to me a post. and so my question is, why is the quote a legitimate in some cases and repeat a repeatable body in others? this is the exact example of the simple garcia and the, the rest of the window and just shooting them. it's fine and no additional is i gotta send it tends to the uh, the judges of the, uh, i see, i know that since last 3 days a go with some numbers. oh gosh. and america and just the citizens directly to the judges of the 0. it will be sanctions on some of the judges i'm, you know. busy punishments or so i guess some of which is for the security. so when it comes to there are of the running against them or i guess they have some of the allies like is, was the, you know, nice guy, see i'

they also mentioned that the i c. c, prosecutor should have issued arrest warrants to all is ready. officials and they also condemned the fact that the i c. c had been equalizing the palestinians with the is ready to use palestinians here. i won't want to feel anything of that a ceasefire agreement. we have been seeing the responses and their celebration on the ground when they're, when have mazda approved and agreed to that, seized by your, in the past couple of weeks. but as you see behind me, there has been no reaction from the people on the ground. and actually some people do not even know that this happened because they do not have any as to the internet to electricity. and that's that, that's exactly what people are appealing and, and saying right now. and stay with me because i do want to ask you about the situation and goals are right now that 1st i want to say some of the pictures we've been getting in from across the gaza strip today. take a look at this. this was a scene and bait blah. here in northern garza

given the i, c. c is not officially part of the un while the un works and collaborates with the i, c. c. it's a totally separate judicial body. all right, gabriel. many thanks explaining all of that gabriel is on the of the un. is still a hit on al jazeera lighting tay is sworn in, is the new president of taiwan, the hello. we will say some lovely weather coming in across the korean peninsula. and japan clear skies coming for him. a little heavier of high pressure, just starting to nestle this way for you. so this low just remedies the side of haunt you. i will pull out to the pipe of follow the line of cloud, right. the way down across taiwan into southern china was a more, very heavy rain full here. and there are further heavy in front of the showers as we go on through the next couple of days. so that's tuesday's picture. you've got one into where the state more of the side will pick down pulls more heavy showers, coming across a similar area and not quite just watch perfectly all the never the less

this is the i c. c, prosecutors also seeking the rest of ordering sore from us political and been if he does explain, honey, you can send bar and bahama dave that are reasonable grounds to believe that these 3 i'm actually to is a criminal. you're responsible for the killing of these really civilians and attacks perpetrated by a mass of i'm groups on the 7th of october 2023. the palestinian group says that the rest of organs for nothing. yeah. who wouldn't kalonde a several months too late? and rather than creating the victim with the perpetrator, i c. c, should or did the rest of all occupation officials gave orders and the soldiers who carried out the crimes. if we want to be honest, we should be looking at what it is that the government, these really government has been doing the orders that it has, the issue to it's soldiers and it's issued orders to its soldiers to carry out a genocide. if this court is to have any credibility, it should be going after the people were committing genocide, rather th

there is a sense here of us double standards and people point to march of last year when the i c. c issued an arrest warrant for russian president vladimir, put in for alleged war crimes in ukraine at the time the us and other western countries mostly applauded that decision by the i c. c. but now when the i c. c closes in on arrest warrants for is really officials the us cause it outrages gabriel's under. how does it do united nations in new york? how does the students have walked out of your university's graduation ceremony known as commencement to the us office staging an anti war protests well had followed. some graduates holding signs demanding a permanent ceasefire and gaza and an end to us military assistance for israel. they also demanded yells de vestment from on supplies and an honesty for students and stuff being disciplined or fired for testing. so the okay, we're going to turn to some other world news now. iran isn't as presidential elections for june. 28, soft to the death of president ever comes right. you see and i had a call to crash. the wreckage was find early on

i wanna walk you through the next few steps and the i c. c. process. an application is made to the courts pre trial chamber to decide whether sufficient grounds of jurisdiction exist. now, if the arrest ones are issued, suspects can voluntarily surrender to the i. c. c, r, countries that have signed up to the wrong statute have an obligation to arrest them . if i pretended a hearing is going to be held to decide if there's enough evidence to go to trial. if the case proceeds, 3 trial judges will per side, and the prosecution must prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. judges can then issue sentences of up to 13 years in prison and even life sentences in exceptional cases. that step bottom is that the hague and she explains what the prosecutors bid means for international law. and the court. after months of pressure from all sides on the international criminal court, the prosecutor here has made a major announcement with the rest of organs that he's requesting. now, the icbc is embarking on an unprecedented join. and, and one of the most high profile cas

some of the javi was there as well as milton member of the i. c. c. and israel's need is do not face imminent arrest, but they say the prosecutor's decision is disgraceful and anti semitic not to jump . jane has more. i remember benjamin netanyahu, his condition has burned down to 0 from reporting side as well. so mohammed fall this from a, the outrage across the is really political spectrum of the announcement that international criminal court, cheap prosecutor cutting pond and seeking arrest warrants for israeli prime minister benjamin it's in yahoo is really defense ministry walk a lot as well as 3 from us leaders, it's really prime minister netanyahu declaring that he rejects with disgust the comparison between israel and how much here's more of what and it's, and you also have to say, well, absolutely about should condition that the, this absurd and deceitful warrant of the persecution in the hague is aimed and also on the against israel as prime minister and defense minister both against the entire states. if is right off, it is against the idea

the next step in the i c. c. process. application is made to the court pre trial chamber to decide whether sufficient grounds and jurisdiction exist . if the arrest warrants are issued, suspects can voluntarily surrender to the i. c. c, or countries that have signed up to its room statute have an obligation to arrest them. if not for him to the hearing, will be held to decide if there's enough evidence to go to trial. if the case proceeds 3 trial and judges will preside, and the prosecution must prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. judges can then issue sentences of up to 30 years in prison, and even live sentences in exceptional cases. what is wrong is not a member of the i c c and israel's need is don't face evidence arrest, but they say the prosecutor's decision is disgraceful. an anti semitic but haven't jump june has no one's been that the all his coalition of course is found out to 0 from report inside israel. so i'm having just talking to us from a long the outrage across the is really political spectru

, the i c. c says it's a damn we all member is a state of palestine on their web page. they joined in 2015. it's an outright lie. and then later on uh he, uh, uh, uh, he uh, claimed later on, matt, matt lee picked up on my questioning. so so, so just to just have yours up, matt levy is the reporter for a p. matt miller is the, the, the, the, the, the talking had to represent the state department of the united states. so matt levy is asking matt miller, what questions go ahead. right. keep, keep followed up on my question in saying, what about russia and the i c c. because you know, you, you're saying that, you know, israel isn't a party in russia isn't a party. so what's the difference here? why, why are you accepting it? and one in rejecting it and then other, and he says, well, the difference is that ukraine is ukraine, is a member, is, are they? well, they're not white again. he lied on both sides of the equation. deep sleep claim, the palestine wasn't a member. and then he falsely claimed that

busy announced by the a what's acute the of of the i c c. busy a i c, c is around one in a and it didn't $58.00. the said the thing the plan over the class, i say the demand, little kind of interviews as i'm saying it's now the international. busy must be in must be enforced in bottom. surely the universe of morality and there is something like that. i do not claim to be, you know, a more of a lot to be isn't that the soul way comb on the, on. ready to clean the globe a i do believe in the universe, i'm more of the deep. then i think of the dots, as i said before, the due date for your deep and should be enforced upon all governments only and send you a chance in order fiegel is that i'm the do the bottom surely. so in that sense, in the, in, as a consequence of stats, of my basic philosophic galloway, they are lucky code stands. so i, so this, these are end of the icy c o of the above prosecute to the right one. because what's going on in gaza? the kinds that are going on, you guys, us as a bonus, see a visa, any government, and like natalie

lean on its american allies to be able to try and sway well that the americans claim on that the i, c. c, the detroit hold pressure on the i. c safe is going to reach out to its allies with in europe and other countries. all signatories saying that you need to fight back on this. you need to at least push back on this and put pressure on the cold. but right now i think he's riley is all can or in emergency mode right now they're going to be taking legal advice. we probably weren't here from apartments and the defense minister. and so a little bit later when they've taken that legal advice, but certainly the language is going to be incredibly fair hearing or they, they say it's hypocritical, it's insolence, and it's simply a disgrace. cimarron, there have been reporting recently and these really press that the prime minister specifically was worried about this, but he knew it was in the offing. and he was hoping that he could avoid this that's absolutely true of the reporting and the price suggested that he had actually already reached out to the allies. and then that was reporting and am

for months, the i c. c. prosecute to face criticism of the conduct and gods and folded. cons critics, even of the un security council, criticize what they saw as, as an action to hold is rather comfortable. ceasefire a ceasefire of israel's allies, including the united states, also expressed anger. i had to mondays if the announcement target is real and we will talk to you that a warning letter from it doesn't us republican senators, the trenton took tumbling and sanctioned isis. he stop and their families. 3 this is bill that today in the me, a talk of the risk board isn't likely to have an immediate impact on the war which has killed more than 35000 palestinians and displaced millions more since october. some of the job was there. well, it's really is not a member of the i c, c and israel's lead his date face immune interest. but they say the prosecutors decision is disgraceful and anti semitic how much of june has more. remember benjamin netanyahu, whose coalition has bound to help 0 from reporting insid

b i. c, c prosecutor says this evidence to show that nothing yahoo, i'm go on the criminal responsibility for crimes. and also in the past 7 months, the mazda attack on is watkins about 1200 people on october 7th, and as well as well. and also since has getting more than $35.00 pounds of palestinians, the crimes include starvation of civilians as a method of wolf, i wilfully causing great suffering. serious injury to body or health or cruel treatment. also killing or murder, unintentionally directing attacks against a civilian population. as well as crimes against humanity of extermination, handling matter, persecution and navigation. some crimes of committing other in human acts. nothing yahoo condemned what he called an outrageous position, accusing the icpc of anti semitism. the prosecutors of surcharges against being as well as the defense minister. i'm merely an attempt to deny, as well the basic right of self defense. and i assure you one thing this attempt will utterly fail. moss is also

and we certainly will not join the i c, c. we will let the i c, c die on its own. after all, for all intents and purposes, the i, c, c is already dead us. and yet, following those comments, just a few short years later, as you also mentioned, washington was fully supportive of the i. c. c issue and the rest were integrated supply and demand person. so my question is, why is the quote a legitimate in some cases and irreplaceable bodies in office because the american lead, the sick, the. busy should work according to the way, and they think that the court of justice, the own, the court of justice in the world is the night of states senate and comforters. which is, by the way, and now some of its members out of sorts and needs to take competitive acts against the international court of justice. something unbelievable. uh, they don't believe in international move, the united states, the ultimate, even international. it below it communities in the law of the jungle, and in general, start whoever has the power can do it. they're like, but the, in this case, i think the na

he's one of the men targeted by the i. c, c, arrest warrant request. so was this man, each man, honey, the guitar based political leader of from us. the 3rd. so must his military strategist mohammed dias as the i, c c, 's top prosecutor says he has reasonable grounds to believe the 3 are responsible for war crimes and crimes against humanity committed upon. and after october, the 7th murder as a crime against humanity, as will crime the taking of hostages as a will crime rate. the acts of sexual violence, jordan captivity, as crimes against humanity. does what crimes? torture? joining captivity is a crime against humanity and is a little crime kind is also requesting an international arrest warrant for israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu. and his defense minister, you'll have galant 7 months into the war. he thinks the to bear direct responsibility for war crimes. and crimes against humanity committed in gaza, including using starvation as a weapon of war and intentionally directing attacks against a civilian population. it's really like whole st

yeah, i mean to, well, i mean to be honest the i c. c. let's be clear like united states has it is not nestle part of the i c, c is never really approved of, of, of the, the power of the i, c c. and i think that there is, there's, there's reason for that from, you know, from america's perspective as a nation. and certainly in the past, there been concerns about prosecution against people like president bush or maybe obama. but the point is that the united states has clearly been pro israel since the inception. i don't think that's a surprise. but look, i mean this administration, you could say that just as ministration. but even previous ones, there are a lot of double doable citizens. i think even blinking amongst them i, i believe is a dual citizen of israel as well as america. that gives you a hint where the legions lies with many is people in the administration. and obviously the amount of influence that we know, these are a lobby see america. so pro is real. i think the main surprises just seeing the disregard for the for, for human l

the i c c, the i c j discussing a continued genocide and gaza. and yet, you're just not allowed to say a damn thing about it. yeah, as america is becoming more and more of the sword tearing country, the censoring, this is in voices and it's not demonizing them. and you know, the us is deeply complex and the slaughter and gas, so they're providing a huge amount of weaponry to israel. and this is really us is rarely assault on the people of gaz. us and us is tracking down on this and just like in other conflicts, you know, where i show you crime us is provided 1000000000 and weapon rates for the training and tack on the people, least in ukraine and russia. and you can't really just set the gains that either people have spoken out against this attack margin wines as well. yeah. yeah. if you know, if you don't tow the main stream west a narrative, then it was a good shot. you would just simply lose your job, but i mean time as you say, what is in american, his railey, military and coach, and against the people of casa america, sending all these weapon

so this is the next step in the i c. c. process and application is made to the quotes pre trial chain, but to decide whether sufficient grounds and jurisdiction exist. if the arrest warrants are issued, suspects can voluntarily surrender to the i. c. c, or countries that are assigned up to its run statute. have an obligation to arrest them if apprehended a hearing would be held to decide if there is enough evidence to go to trial. if the case proceeds to re trial, judges will preside, and the prosecution was prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. judges convent issue sentences of up to 30 years in prison and even life sentences in exceptional cases. so, francesco, been a z, a z u, and special out for to on the okay, by policy, the entire tree. she joins us now from to and as soon as we said, cream con has applied for these arrest warrants against salt is riley and mosley does. what does the panel of judges need to establish now to the degree title, chapter google. so the judges to turn the majority phase this so they would

ok, israel not signed up to the i c. c a. does this call from the i c. c. prosecutor. i have months in the way of consequence for mister netanyahu, i need deed for his government or or if these do go ahead and, and these are arrest warrants, you know, uh, a handed down and they would be real weld implications. fill. of course, as you said, as well as not signed up to the i say say no, is it storage allied, the united states, but it's not likely to have any political implications directly on the prime minister. all the defense minister, it's not likely to save them, stand down from the positions that something like that is more likely to happen from domestic pressures which we have been saying, but haven't caused the full of the government to the state. but as you just mentioned, to then not signed up to the i, c, c, the i c doesn't have a policing body, there is no way to be able to arrest these men. so it would come down to travel restrictions as we've seen in other cases. namely, with vladimir putin of russia, that there's a 125 other countries that all signed up to t

against the icpc officials concerned. worth noting also that even ahead of this announcement by the i c. c, there was a group of republican lawmakers that actually wrote a letter to the i c. c. warning them against such a move, saying that they would face severe sanctions if they continued on with these all with this i'll call for request warrants sanctions of course. so i'd like travel bands a to the u. s. now the very fact that that joe biden is considering working with his group of republican lawmakers and apply part is an effort to love the sanctions against the i. c. c officials speaks to the level of upset to over that announcement here in washington. however, if you look at his own party, the democrats, the picture, there is less clear cut. you have the leaders of the, the democrats, the, the democratic leaders in the house and the senate saying that they criticize all the i, c, c, r. but i would not say whether they would support sanctions. you have progressive democrats saying they support the i, c. c. now of course, this is just one or more divide in to biden's party, over his ha

i. c, c's indictment of netanyahu. i want to take actions and not just words, where you support by person, effort to sanction the i. c. c. not only for the outrage against israel, but to protect in the future own interest. i welcome working with you on that. okay, let me said that we're going to work together to send a signal, but as easy, what you did was not only outragious you destroyed the rule was we know it and you've given like been us for like 9 months. and i, i've never been more disappointed we work together to help the c, c, against russia, ungoverned spaces and rogue nations are the pointed by c. c. this is just the latest chapter in america is bizarre. relationship with the international criminal court. the united states never likes it when the i c. c starts looking into the activities of the pentagon or its allies. let's recall what happened when chief prosecutor of the icpc for to been sued to started investigating u. s. war crimes in afghanistan. as a result of its examination, my office has determined t

i mean, this is not the 1st time that we have talked about the i c, c. and usually on this program is in the midst of a terms, i don't have much liking for the i c c. because if it's to put city is how it's politicized. and then it does something like this and ask for indictments against the 2 leading is really officials. of course they had to balance it out with having 3 a mazda officials. for me. it's a very mixed bag. i have mixed feelings about it. they, they the very fact the justices people want to start approaching this in a more balanced way. applying the law to everyone, i suppose is a plus, but because it comes from the i, c, c. i just really don't know what to think about it. what do you think? i i agree i don't think di c. c has much credibility if any credit ability at all. and no, do any of the international institutions that were created since the 2nd world war . they're all dominated by the west, more or less. some are worse, some or if it better, but this particular institution is very much under the influence of the united states. and it

that said the i c. c should have moved much earlier considering the paddick that that decision that was created, cutting and cutting knows exactly what's happening because i, he came to the bottom. oh, there used to he's. so what's going on and the other side, he knows exactly what's happened. it's belated, but it's better late than never. but the question is, is, are the america's actually complicit, or are they directly involved from the very beginning. i've made the, the argument that the americans are directly involved. you can't give this much money. that's right. you cannot sustain this war from the very start and just the polite provide every political, every legal, every moral justification is way up to do what to do and know you are present in gaza. the delta force has been in and out of gauze that the year means that the americans are in garza. they are within then it's a room area which is controlled by as well. in garza, the americans read rather the whole overhead to get you hold that thought

the i c. c prosecutor also wants arrest warrants for 3 homeless leaders for the october 7th attack and southern israel. a move that has been denounced by him us. some of the ends of it begins our coverage. solving children is a crime. the killing civilians is a little crime. and then for the causing suffering is also a criminal act. those are the top 2 reasons. the prosecutor of the international criminal court has cited for requesting of restaurants for these really prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, and defense minister golf kalonde have reasonable grounds to believe on the basis of evidence collected and examined by my office that he's really prime minister benjamin netanyahu administer of defense you, i've got a back criminal responsibility for the following international crimes committed on the territory of the state of palestine. several is really ministers have denounced the allegations of war crimes and crimes against humanity. the foreign minister is read concert, says it's a historic

he said in response, if the i c c. so arrest warrants, it would be a scandal of historic proportions. he called it what would be an anti semitic hate crime. so you, you can probably gauge what the response is going to be and that you sent me the response way, hearing kind of across the board from people in israel and i'm named is riley, diplomatic official told the media here that the icbc decision is hypocritical. and embarrassing on the international stage, i think that's pretty much what we can expect across the board here. feel. so what potential consequences could this announcement have for these writing the government? and i'm more broadly informed mister nathan young to well, that's difficult to say. we know that each route isn't signed up to the i c c. it doesn't recognize it and is therefore not under its jurisdiction. neither is it storage ally, the united states we've seen in the past. vladimir putin has been issued an arrest warrant, and he still remains. uh, you know, impala in russia, so they may be littl

i c j. but on tuesday, the i c. j said that it rejected in nicaragua, st case because it says that there was not enough to provide a case or a file and that there was nothing much that they could do with the crowd was complain. and the minute post simply was that germany is providing israel with a german. he says that most of the aid was non military, whereas the crowd was suggest that the situation was otherwise. which is why uncle his current position is yes, we want to take is real and we want to hold them accountable at the i c j. but based on what, how can feed on said on wednesday, on correct is more gene and ensuring that they have a case that is the steel type. something that cannot be rejected, something that can be pursued and in the long run actually hold is real accountable . but those, there's also the reality that israel does not abide by these rulings, which will make it more difficult, not just for turkey, but for other regional actors that are ensuring that peace and stability takes folder takes, tak

states is the question of legitimacy and jurisdiction in particular. israel's not pointing to the i c, c. they say we don't recognize the authority of the i, c c. well assigned, it has yet to be formally recognized as a state by the un. so there is no me there. you went to go? no, no, no, i'm sorry. you my time when a my time by the time request to be our intervention for 3. and they were briefing me and that the and i said i'm talking to you another state. but after that of october 20 to us, the un general assembly decided that by the time if they not the member of the un but just state and therefore an incentive thing by saying became a state part of the organ. tasha in the court. i am friends with the one. the court accepted the 50 gigs which will be done in the pipe and category, meaning gatzo, westbank. i need to tell him that why the court have not use the current if i have, but how much gonna be the crime standing in guys that went through. if i come back to guess that was even hostages does why? the particulars are, has jurisdiction on how much the crime committed allegedly let m

on the one hand, the i c. c judges are under us sanctions. on the other hand, washington fully supported. it's not stimulated the issuance of i c. c, warrants against the russian leadership. at the same time, the american political system does not recognize the legitimacy of the structure and relation to itself and its satellites. the sense of absolute permissive. this leads to the absurdity of mental constructions. just to clarify, back in 2020 washington ing date imposed sanctions only senior i. c. c. officials. when the quotes was investigating whether us forces to meet with the war crimes in of john it's dawn. it was the 1st time that america attacks the international criminal court. but again, criticism only comes as washington itself or it's insurance or its allies are in the spotlight of the international prosecution. and what it is is not the double standard approach, is where the foreign ministry has enhanced. it will create a crisis headquarters defined to any i c, c, actions that gains nothing. yahoo, i'm the launch. how much is als

and that's because of the i c. c is a separate body. it's not technically part of the united nations, even though they collaborate on some things the i c, j. on the other hand, the enter national court of justice is the highest court affiliated with the united nations, although independent. so you won't hear from you and officials, per se, the secretary general, we have been roaming around un headquarters as much as we can since early this morning trying to talk to diplomats trying to talk to the security council members as they went in or out of security council meetings all day and the bottom line is nobody is rushing to go to the podium or come over to our microphones to, to give any comments on the cream cons decision, primarily because it's not arrest warrants yet. it's cream con application for possible arrest warrants. and so i think diplomats right now or, you know, wait and see sort of a stage right down simply as one said, it's a hot potato to that. a lot of these diplomats simply don't want to touch right now . until they abso

busy the about the, it's part of the i c. c. it's popular heart admissions. i like the, it's only, it's 5 by c, j thailand to all right. yes. the west, which there i'd say it is not part of it. it's not part of the role that you go to the united states in the body open position. uh huh. there. and, and basically saying that. busy this uh you have a water board, the 3 established after the 2nd world war, which includes the u. i'm trying to do anything to the international court of justice. and so many other. busy international governments and conventions and agreement, stuff i was suppose to do late relations between depos, between countries, between states. but those are actually not applicable. and that gets to prison. okay. the space has been under try you to buy this man for its treatments. it was right and can describe the conflict, not, not only but the use, right. and now it's really a very, very bad position if it continues to use that to people. because it's going to be clear for, of the community that this move is against international law, and that g

that said the i c. c should have moved much earlier considering the paddick that that decision that was created. cutting him son knows exactly what's happening because i, he came to the bottom. oh, there used to he's. so what's going on and the other side. he knows exactly what's happened. it's belated, but it's better late than never. but the question is, is, are the america's actually complicit, or are they directly involved from the very beginning. i've made the, the argument that the americans are directly involved. you can't give this much money. that's right. you cannot sustain this war from the very start and just the polite provide every political, every legal, every moral justification for is up to do what's doing and know you are present in gaza. the delta force has been in and out of gauze that the p are means that the americans are in garza, the or we didn't. then it's the room area which is controlled by as well. and garza, the american dread rather the whole overhead to get you hold that tho