i want to get imogen in. >> romney said at a campaign stop in august, and i quote, corporations are people. that must really worry you. >> well, it doesn't really worry me. because i have to say that i just find that everybody i talk to, you know, if they know about this issue, they think it's ridiculous that everybody knows that a corporation is not a person. and if they don't know about it, once they find out about it, then their eyes pop out of their head, and they say, that's ridiculous. i mean, i have to say, just yesterday i was talking to my evangelical christian sister, who i love dearly, who loves in texas, and i was telling her about what i was doing and about the issue, and she was completely on board. and i think that people -- americans across the political spectrum agree that it is the citizens of the country who should be determining the laws. and as we become a more participatory democracy, and as our government actually reflects our will, then i think that the view offer government will becom

time for our deep students of the democratic process, our wednesday mega panel, imogen, jonathan and >> hi, matt. >> hey, jonathan. why don't i start with you. mitt romney, i thought his chocolate factory line, i love "i love lucy." i love the chocolate factory scene and it also kind of fit with the fathers knows best. mitt romney would cate a '50s sitcom. >> so "leave it to beaver." definitely appeals to people over the age of about 40, right, which is probably what they are looking for when they go into the caucuses, right? but this whole thing underlines to me, i don't know, the carnivalesque atmosphere to this. it's like -- to use another television analogy, it's like a loony toons dog chase and santorum is out in front and there's ron paul. i don't -- they are all pandering to various little pieces that will get them a bit of the vote, whether it's the abortion issue that we just saw with that. i get to the point where it doesn't really matter who wins in iowa at this point. >> the beauty of live tv, i learned those poll results coming in on the screen. the fact that santorum ha

imogen, take it away. >> thank you, dylan.d many families. naturally, all our thoughts are with those for whom it is a tough time. but in the spirit of friday fun, i now prevent some tongue in cheek of seasonal survival tips. it is the season to be jolly, so we're told. but fun is organic, spontaneous. it cannot be enforced. therefore, don't feel guilty if you are grumpy in december. there are a multitude of irritants about, and not just cliched christmas songs on a loop. there's the false deadline of the end of the year. people who you see once every six months say, oh, i must see you before christmas. why? there's all of january, where you're completely free, unlike manic december. offer to buy them a 2012 calendar. another odd annual ritual, the work party. you spend a whole year trying not to say indiscreet things at work, but suddenly, you're supposed to drink bad alcohol on an empty stomach with your coworkers. keep yourself on handy to record any scandalous behavior. you may need to bribe someone not to shout about your

imogen, always a pleasure.reciate and admire your efforts tremendously, and i look forward to learning more about specifically the efforts on gerrymandering. bill samuels, guys. >>> next, we'll take a walk on the wild side. as if this wasn't wild enough for you. we've got some newly discovered critters walking among us on this earth. [ male announcer ] what if you have potatoes? but you've got a meat and potatoes guy? pour chunky sirloin burger soup over those mashed potatoes and dinner is served. four minutes, around four bucks. campbell's chunky -- it's amazing what soup can do. is best absorbed in small continuous amounts. only one calcium supplement does that in one daily dose. citracal slow release... continuously releases calcium plus d for the efficient absorption my body needs. citracal. >>> well, we do talk about exploring space a lot on the show. richard branson and the whole space ship routine. but there are actually amazing discoveries happening every single day, right here on our very home planet.

>> last word to you on this one, imogen. >> oh, you've got to loved donald trump. has come early for us political pundits. it's given us a hook to talk about these endless debates with. donald trump is delusional. look at his hair. it's pretty obvious he's sort of on another planet and i'm finding it quite heartening. just for iowa. could be an important debate, but the second place and third place in the iowa polls at the moment, romney and ron paul have both refused to go. let's face it. it's on another planet. it really is. we can laugh at it just for conversation. >> but it does give us an opportunity to expose the absurd nature of our current political system and as we better understand that collectively it gives us that much more inspiration to engage it, if we can't do it at a federal level on a municipal level and that's exactly what the city of los angeles did this week and in an inspiring move. a quick update to a story that we brought you on monday. we are happy to report that the city of los angeles has passed a resolution unanimously, i might add, sayi

imogen, rob and jonathan, the mega panel, is here, and as i look at all the numbers.t remarkably less frustrated and more confident because i saw the level of disaprove. you see the "wall street journal" today, right in the face of the republicans, and -- and do you -- am i -- do you see the inspiration in this in that the very least we've identified the process, the electoral process is not reflecting the intentions or desires of this country. >> first of all, i don't know why 11% for polygamy. that seems ridiculously low. >> that more people should be in favor of polygamy. >> i mean, come on. >> come on. hang on. >> what do people have against polygamy? putting that aside, i understand what they have against congress. i lived in europe. >> yes. >> and hence his support. >> one of the things that blew me away was the actual efficacy of a technocratic government. we have one now in italy and when you see 11%. when you see complete and utter failure across the board. right now we're talking about the republicans failing utterly but as you pointed out the president does

imogen lloyd webber, chrystia freeland, and tim carney. it's a pleasure to see all of you.hrystia, you look at this, whether it's iraq or north korea, really it looks like power vacuums that are being created. in the case of iraq, one that's a possibility for iran to expand into. and two, in the case of north korea, an opportunity for china to expand its field of power. does anybody in the west really have the leverage, the united states or anybody else, to prevent china or iran for that matter, for really taking political advantage of the geographic nature of the fact that the person they're talking about is next door to them, not us. >> can i put a more optimistic spin on this? is that allowed? >> sure. >> i think with north korea, this is one of the worst governments in the world. it's a brutal dictatorship. we've seen now, you know, even sort of the pretext of being a communist party dictatorship is not the case anymore. it's become that red their. and particularly given the fact that we are living in this time when we're seeing dictators topple like dominos, i'm not pr

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measure can we help make our information environment more competitive and thus more interesting what imogen dear colleagues would you feel that you might get out of their list of tasks you always shall go into focus my efforts in the next few months. i would. hear anything but as for the way the federal their powers go into looking in the next period that depends on the choices of the people of our country this is a very important choice that will determine our common future especially considering the tough situation that the world is facing with. you know that. financial turmoil zz have already undermined the credibility the solvency of many countries he had only while you. were fearing one. of the main reserve currencies and fears of the state of banks are now determining investor modes more than the real situation in economies yes there are developing countries which account for the most part of the population of the planet and that developing world keeps developing at the gates growing the meeting place however cannot fully compensate look in my queue for the stop of the previous locomo

that my children are going to go to will have a camera so that there can be surveillance footage now imogene i have to hang up on you here we're getting an update i have breaking news from the michael jackson murder i mean death trial it appears that the jury may have reached a verdict so let's go straight to lauren lyster who is live on the scene and who's been covering every detail lauren tell us what do you know you know nancy at this point we are hearing that the jurors have passed a note to the judge and that possibly a verdict could be delivered as soon as any minute here but as you mentioned earlier he has really dr conrad murray already been convicted in the court of public opinion after being called a murderer so many times on your show but as i said we are awaiting a verdict and it's highly anticipated controversy ok now lauren i hear that that isn't the only interesting thing that's happened here also here that there happens to be some kind of a sighting in the courthouse we are hearing reports that local police have been inundated with calls that done under that casey anthony is

bryant your cc has passed, but his wife, imogene, is still living. she's 87 years old. so i was asking her, because she actually finished high school, and i asked her if her mother had finished high school, but there was no high school for her mother to finish. and i asked her about her grandmother, if her grandmother had finished high school. and it was no high school for her grandmother to finish. so one of the things is just to actually find out all the efforts that black people had made all across the years during slavery, during reconstruction and afterwards, really to get an education. so that's one thing to do. so on the question about what is going on now, so, a few people, right, the civil rights movement opened doors. and so a few people were able to walk through those doors, right, and the country decided that they would make room for a few people to walk through those doors. now, i was talking to someone at princeton who is very prestigious, black professor there, on the science side. he was complaining. he said princeton has not produced one black ph.d in p

thanks, as always, to imogen lloyd webber for a wonderful rant. some real insights and optimism for the new year, which we need. that does it for us. i'm matt miller. up next, "hardball with chris matthews" out in iowa starts right now. >>> romney rump. let's play "hardball." >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews at java joe's in des moines, iowa. we're just five days away from the iowa caucuses. the candidates are here, the crowds are obviously here until the votes are in. "hardball" is going to be here every night through the caucuses tuesday night. leading off tonight, smelling victory. one day after a new poll put him first here in iowa, mitt romney is strutting his stuff, showing a new air of confidence with just five days to go. romney announced he'll stay in iowa through çtuesday's caucus, holding a post-caucus party here in des moines before moving on to new hampshire wednesday morning. he's playing to win here. hoping victories in iowa and then new hampshire will help him wrap up the nomination quickly. romney's biggest rival right now in