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up seeing pieces of iraq fly off.t is a quagmire. >> that is right. dick cheney predicted that iraq would be a quagmire. flash forward to 2003, dick cheney appeared on "meet the press" with the late tim russert. >> my belief is we will in fact be greeted as liberators. >> if your analysis is not correct and we're not treated as liberators but as conquerors, do you think the american people are prepared for a long, costly, and bloody battle with a significant american casualties? >> i don't think it is likely to unfold that way, tim, because i believe that we will be greeted as liberators. >> so what changed dick cheney and why was george w. bush so determined to go to war in iraq? >> it is just one of those awful moments. >> 9/11 pushed him and cheney into a very dark place. >> i think that we have to prove that i'm a tough guy. we have to prove that we can reshape the middle east otherwise the rest of my administration, various terrorist groups and tin pot dictators are going to take advantage. >> richard clarke was
up seeing pieces of iraq fly off.t is a quagmire. >> that is right. dick cheney predicted that iraq would be a quagmire. flash forward to 2003, dick cheney appeared on "meet the press" with the late tim russert. >> my belief is we will in fact be greeted as liberators. >> if your analysis is not correct and we're not treated as liberators but as conquerors, do you think the american people are prepared for a long, costly, and bloody battle with a significant american...
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i was in favor of the iraq war.at a modern dem a democracy in iraq could be a new model of politics for the region, a middle ground between repressive dictatorship and islamic fanaticism, and i never believed that the iraqis and the others were incapable of self-rule, and i still believe that the only long term answer for radical islam is for the muslim societies to organize politically, theocratically. now, i did urge a different approach to iraq with many more troops to maintain order. a u.n. mandate for legitimacy to avoid an image of american occupancy. and i said that it would tear the country apart, but it did not stop me from supporting the are regime's decision to topple saddam hussein. he was a brutal dick tator who plunged many into war. and now for modernity and tolerance, there is an example of away from the fervor, but in the end, it was a mistake, causing geopolitical chaos, and untold tragedy. at least 150,000 civilians died in addition to the almost 4,500 american brave soldiers. some argue that you
i was in favor of the iraq war.at a modern dem a democracy in iraq could be a new model of politics for the region, a middle ground between repressive dictatorship and islamic fanaticism, and i never believed that the iraqis and the others were incapable of self-rule, and i still believe that the only long term answer for radical islam is for the muslim societies to organize politically, theocratically. now, i did urge a different approach to iraq with many more troops to maintain order. a u.n....
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iraq first. what's different in terms of our leverage so that we can bring it to bear, especially given this period where we have a new leader in iraq where i think we can shape this relationship so that we will see some of the things you laid out in your initial testimony that would actually come to fruition? on syria, i completely concur that the political transition is necessary. i'm interested to know, we had geneva 1, geneva 2. what fevehicles could we use to get some compelance on that score? i agree the long term issue is cutting off the ability to recruit and fund raise for this enemy who really is fraudulent. they say the advance the cause of muslims. nothing could be further from the truth. no one kills more muslims than the islamic state. again, in terms of ways and means, what's different in terms of this strategy that we think that we're going to make progress? >> i'll start, congressman, then maybe the chairman wants to. first of all, thank you for your own service, we appreciate th
iraq first. what's different in terms of our leverage so that we can bring it to bear, especially given this period where we have a new leader in iraq where i think we can shape this relationship so that we will see some of the things you laid out in your initial testimony that would actually come to fruition? on syria, i completely concur that the political transition is necessary. i'm interested to know, we had geneva 1, geneva 2. what fevehicles could we use to get some compelance on that...
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sunni tribes in western-central iraq lorded over by al-qaeda in iraq which had outstayed its welcome. eventually, the jihadists were seen as another form of foreign occupation of iraq. they stole the money, they impinged on the black and gray market economies, they assassinated the tribal leadership, they raped the women. so the tribes said we had enough. we don't like the americans, but at least the americans when dayy come in and expel the terrorists, they don't kick us out of our own homes. so they partnered with us in a very pragmatic fashion, and it worked up until the point that it didn't work, and that was when the u.s -- forget about a military withdrawal from iraq -- politically disengaged, handed the country to nouri al-maliki who was, essentially, you know, a puppet of iran, and who just went in and did exactly the things that cannot be done in iraq if you want to keep the most be extremist sunni jihaddism out of the country or at least keep it strategically defeated. we turned this -- we allowed this to become another sec tear war. and so -- sectarian war. so the united st
sunni tribes in western-central iraq lorded over by al-qaeda in iraq which had outstayed its welcome. eventually, the jihadists were seen as another form of foreign occupation of iraq. they stole the money, they impinged on the black and gray market economies, they assassinated the tribal leadership, they raped the women. so the tribes said we had enough. we don't like the americans, but at least the americans when dayy come in and expel the terrorists, they don't kick us out of our own homes....
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elsewhere in iraq, we have about 3,500 troops at six locations in iraq. in support of iraqi security forces, the isf. we've been providing increased lethal fire and augmenting the existing training, advising and assisting program. and we're prepared to do more as iraq shows capability and motivation in the counter isil fight and in resolving its political divisions. now, the progress in the sunni portions of iraq as mentioned by mr. smith is the campaign to recapture ramadi shows has been slow. much to our and prime minister abadi's frustration. despite his efforts, sectarian politics and iranian influence have made building a multi-sectarian iraqi security force difficult with notable exceptions such as the effective u.s. trained counter terrorism forces. we continue to offer additional u.s. support of all kinds and urge baghdad to enroll, train, arm, and pay sunni arab fighters. as well as local sunni arab police forces to hold territory recaptured from isil. all these efforts from northern syria through iraq have slunk the isil-controlled territory in
elsewhere in iraq, we have about 3,500 troops at six locations in iraq. in support of iraqi security forces, the isf. we've been providing increased lethal fire and augmenting the existing training, advising and assisting program. and we're prepared to do more as iraq shows capability and motivation in the counter isil fight and in resolving its political divisions. now, the progress in the sunni portions of iraq as mentioned by mr. smith is the campaign to recapture ramadi shows has been slow....
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and, yes, he was in american custody during the iraq war.i has shown his face publicly only once. last year when he gave a sermon to his followers. but back when the u.s. had him under lock and key, he was seen as, believe it or not, a man who could be trusted. >> the americans seem to see abu bakr as someone who could keep the prison quiet. there are 24 camps within the sunni side of camp bucca, he was allowed open access to all of them. >> he wasn't considered from everything that we know now a high-level detainee, and he was allowed to, you know, lead prayers, he was allowed to give religious lessons. >> the future leader of isis was giving other inmates lessons on islam. those inmates were jihadists or former ba'athists, henchmen of saddam, or simply common criminals. >> it most assuredly was a jihadist university. unquestionably. >> put them all together in the baking heat of southern iraq, with al baghdadi, a man who dreamed of a new kind of terror, it was a recipe for isis. >> they were meeting, they were playing soccer together, they
and, yes, he was in american custody during the iraq war.i has shown his face publicly only once. last year when he gave a sermon to his followers. but back when the u.s. had him under lock and key, he was seen as, believe it or not, a man who could be trusted. >> the americans seem to see abu bakr as someone who could keep the prison quiet. there are 24 camps within the sunni side of camp bucca, he was allowed open access to all of them. >> he wasn't considered from everything that...
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bush and dick cheney had not invade iraq or al gore had won, there was no iraq war, would there be -- >> host: all right, bill, we government the point. that's bill in connecticut. >> guest: that a really good question, and as a journalist i try to avoid putting political labels on it, but the book argues and i strongly believe that the iraq invasion was really the original sin. not just the invasion itself which gave the jihaddists this cause they'd been looking for, particular particularly star could we, and the sin of omake, not having security operates in place, dismanning the baathist party which anybody who was a professional inside iraq, in the early 2000s, that be a might of the baath party. dismantling the armed forces and you have overnight a country with a huge security vacuum and a very angry disenfranchised elite population that was happy to help an injunior coming in 'plenty of iraqis would have fought the americans but star car we is able to melt this religious extremism with this iraqi discontent and bringing the two together turned out to be a very powerful screw, and
bush and dick cheney had not invade iraq or al gore had won, there was no iraq war, would there be -- >> host: all right, bill, we government the point. that's bill in connecticut. >> guest: that a really good question, and as a journalist i try to avoid putting political labels on it, but the book argues and i strongly believe that the iraq invasion was really the original sin. not just the invasion itself which gave the jihaddists this cause they'd been looking for, particular...
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and, yes, he was in american custody during the iraq war.di has shown his face publicly only once. last year when he gave a sermon to his followers. but back when the u.s. had him under lock and key, he was seen as, believe it or not, a man who could be trusted. >> the americans seem to see abu bakr as someone who could keep the prison quiet. there are 24 camps within the sunni side of camp bucca, he was allowed open access to all of them. >> he wasn't considered from everything that we know now a high-level detainee, and he was allowed to, you know, lead prayers, he was allowed to give religious lessons. >> the future leader of isis was giving other inmates lessons on islam. those inmates were jihadists or former ba'athists, henchmen of saddam, or simply common criminals. >> it most assuredly was a jihadist university. unquestionably. >> put them all together in the baking heat of southern iraq, with al baghdadi, a man who dreamed of a new kind of terror, it was a recipe for isis. >> they were meeting, they were playing soccer together, the
and, yes, he was in american custody during the iraq war.di has shown his face publicly only once. last year when he gave a sermon to his followers. but back when the u.s. had him under lock and key, he was seen as, believe it or not, a man who could be trusted. >> the americans seem to see abu bakr as someone who could keep the prison quiet. there are 24 camps within the sunni side of camp bucca, he was allowed open access to all of them. >> he wasn't considered from everything...
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< iraq is a sovereign independent state and when he needs - when iraq needs any help from any neighbouring country or u.s. or russia, the government of iraq, which is an elected government, should ask this particular country to help in the particular way we need it. the turkish incursion through the borders internationally is certainly a grand violation of international law without coordinating this with the iraqi government. this is an act of aggression against iraq and without any prior knowledge or consent from the government of iraq >>> just to interrupt you for a second, they have been there for a long time. that's their line. presumably they were either invited in or them crossing the border was sanctioned at another level under the auspices of someone like nato or the united nations, but probably nato in this case. if they had gone in, and you didn't want them, are you saying it's, in effect, an invasion, because it can't be surely? <
> just to interrupt you for a second, they have been there for a long time. that's their line. presumably they were either invited in or them crossing the border was sanctioned at another level under the auspices of someone like nato or the united nations, but probably nato in this case. if they had gone in, and you didn't want them, are you saying it's, in effect, an invasion, because it can't be surely?
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it also hurt iraq a great deal.o it wasn't just a one-way bet against isis. >> you race the issue you of isil's payroll that includes the families of members who have been killed. you write that if enough members are captured and killed these costs start to add up. tell me how that work in to a targeted valencia strategy of competing isil. >> sure. that's side benefit to a targeted strategy. what we did find both in we were al qaeda in iraq and then islamic state of iraq and then aisles, is that they basically had a promise, they have a payroll and they continued to pa pay families. payroll was based on family size, they continued to pay families if their personal was captured or killed. when u.s. operations became very large they eager stopped paying and that would hurt morale, they are breaking their promises to their members' families and it also hurt their operations when they were running low on money, we found a statistical relationship between the amount of money that they sent to a specific area and the leve
it also hurt iraq a great deal.o it wasn't just a one-way bet against isis. >> you race the issue you of isil's payroll that includes the families of members who have been killed. you write that if enough members are captured and killed these costs start to add up. tell me how that work in to a targeted valencia strategy of competing isil. >> sure. that's side benefit to a targeted strategy. what we did find both in we were al qaeda in iraq and then islamic state of iraq and then...
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troops in iraq, let me just remind you that we have more than 3500 in iraq right now, doing a spectacular job. by the way, they'll shortly be, most of them, celebrating their holidays there and not here. we all ought to keep that in our mind and take a moment to remember them over the holidays. obviously, the president is the commander in chief, so everyone deployed is subject to his approval. i write their deployment orders, i think very carefully about every single one. with respect to overall numbers, the president has indicated and shown a willingness to increase that number. most recently, as we've indicated in the last few weeks, as we develop opportunities to make good use of them. now, we obviously don't -- we try to deploy as few people as we can, simply in recognition of the fact that they're away from their families. but we have to do what we have to do to protect our country and to defeat isil. and the troops know that. and typically, in this season, we bless them for taking it on. >> thank you, everybody. >> thank you. michael, thank you. >> thank you very much. >> there is a
troops in iraq, let me just remind you that we have more than 3500 in iraq right now, doing a spectacular job. by the way, they'll shortly be, most of them, celebrating their holidays there and not here. we all ought to keep that in our mind and take a moment to remember them over the holidays. obviously, the president is the commander in chief, so everyone deployed is subject to his approval. i write their deployment orders, i think very carefully about every single one. with respect to...
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and there is tension between turkey and iraq. has given turkey two days to remove its troops from the northern area of mosul which is held by isil fighters. turkey says it will stop deploying troops to the area but won't remove those already there. imran kahn is in the northern iraqi city of you are bill and l is says iraq is suspicion us. >> reporter: there has been no official reaction to the spat between turkey and baghdad over the troops come across the border. we have heard there is a real fear of what is happening in iraq, the war against isil is becoming a proxy war that the edge knowledge powers are using iraq to fight against each other. we are hearing a lot of sunni fear about the eye ryne vinnie role here and that's been going for a long time and now hearing from certain shia m.p.s about this turkish role, one of the more extreme reactions coming out of the shia camp is we should bomb these troops, these turkish troops because they violated our sovereignty. and lots of people are very worried here about the russian and
and there is tension between turkey and iraq. has given turkey two days to remove its troops from the northern area of mosul which is held by isil fighters. turkey says it will stop deploying troops to the area but won't remove those already there. imran kahn is in the northern iraqi city of you are bill and l is says iraq is suspicion us. >> reporter: there has been no official reaction to the spat between turkey and baghdad over the troops come across the border. we have heard there is...
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i have been in iraq. 18 visits to iraq over the to o years. there are iraqis that want to fight for their country, and they need support from their own government to do so and they n o from other countries to do so. i think your question, though, also involves the refugee population. of course we've seen in syria particularly just utter devastation through indiscriminate bombing that's led to the massive internal many displacement and external displacement. h we've alsoer eff had, i think, e syrians. we wanted them only to fight isil. so very few came forward in that train and equip program because, they want to get rid of assad.tw some of them are willing to fight both, but we had a litmus test that excluded people that said they were going to go and t fight 'assad.of i think you would have more people fighting if you were willing to say let's a concernew approach to this problem. >> france, britain, other middle east countries fighting in this area. how much of a muddle is this, or is it pretty clear cut? >> there are 65 countries in the coa
i have been in iraq. 18 visits to iraq over the to o years. there are iraqis that want to fight for their country, and they need support from their own government to do so and they n o from other countries to do so. i think your question, though, also involves the refugee population. of course we've seen in syria particularly just utter devastation through indiscriminate bombing that's led to the massive internal many displacement and external displacement. h we've alsoer eff had, i think, e...
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that's necessary in iraq in syria. that's two different cases but that's why we pursue only set terry and governance in the state of iraq and why we are trying to find a political solution to the syrian civil war because while it's important to beat isil is important to do it in a lasting way. that is a critical part of the strategy and the reason why we are so intent upon identifying and enabling capable and motivated forces. >> chairman don -- chairman dunford what did general mcfarland plan to do. >> to disrupt, degrade and if you'd isil. >> we don't have a political plan that underlies what our military mission is. we have heard that from general petraeus and general mcchrystal and ambassador carter people on the left in the right have come before the committee and written about this problem. can you speak a bit to that coordination and that planning and your confidence that general mcfarland and others on the ground and see if what akel entity that will stick and make all their military efforts worthwhile? >> cong
that's necessary in iraq in syria. that's two different cases but that's why we pursue only set terry and governance in the state of iraq and why we are trying to find a political solution to the syrian civil war because while it's important to beat isil is important to do it in a lasting way. that is a critical part of the strategy and the reason why we are so intent upon identifying and enabling capable and motivated forces. >> chairman don -- chairman dunford what did general mcfarland...
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they invaded iraq. why they introduced sectarianism to iraq? you know, you are a multicultural country. you actually sit up a very good example for melting people in a pot there and establishing equality. religion aside. the most important thing, how to build that country, how to make people coexist with each other. we did not apply the same principles to iraq, and that's why we are facing a problem in iraq and in syria and all of the region. sorry. >> thank you, sir. yes. another question, please. >> my question was do, does he have any further comments to make about the role of iran? but to follow up on what he was saying, some say that the middle east is not ready for democracy, we can't import it there. could he comment on that? a very different history from that. >> thank you. so when we think about the future of the region after the islamic state, scholars disagree about whether liberal democracy is possible in this parking lot of the world. in this part of the world. do you think liberal democracy with constitutions and elections and fre
they invaded iraq. why they introduced sectarianism to iraq? you know, you are a multicultural country. you actually sit up a very good example for melting people in a pot there and establishing equality. religion aside. the most important thing, how to build that country, how to make people coexist with each other. we did not apply the same principles to iraq, and that's why we are facing a problem in iraq and in syria and all of the region. sorry. >> thank you, sir. yes. another...
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we should draw lessons with iraq. we are struggling to defeat daesh in iraq and that is with, estimates vary but certainly 800, 900,000 security forces on our payroll. i mean one strategy you could employ is actually finish the job in iraq before we actually start thinking about any long-term strategy in syria. but again, we're struggling. that is one of the fundamental differences between iraq and syria. as for the issue about taking, about sitting at the top table, can i just address this point centrally? this is the strong message when we were visiting the middle east. we're already at the top table. china is not intending it intervene. yet set sits at the top table as member p 5. we would do so also, and quite clearly we're showing solidarity with our partners. in conclusion, mr. speaker, the short-term effect of british airstrikes will be marginal. i think most people accept that. but as we intervene, more, we become more responsible for the events on the ground and lay ourselves open to the unintended consequenc
we should draw lessons with iraq. we are struggling to defeat daesh in iraq and that is with, estimates vary but certainly 800, 900,000 security forces on our payroll. i mean one strategy you could employ is actually finish the job in iraq before we actually start thinking about any long-term strategy in syria. but again, we're struggling. that is one of the fundamental differences between iraq and syria. as for the issue about taking, about sitting at the top table, can i just address this...
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what we did find both when they were al qaeda in iraq and then islamic state of iraq and then when they were i.s.i.l. they basically have a promise. they have a payroll and they continue to pay family. payroll was based on family size. they continued to pay families if a person was detained or killed. what we saw was that their payroll costs were mounting throughout the 2000s when u.s. operations became very large. so they either stopped paying, that would hurt morale, they are breaking their promises to their members' families and it also hurt operations when they were running low on money. we found a statistical relationship between money they spent to a certain area and level of attacks in that area. so as we degrade their ability to raise money, we are also degrading their ability to conduct operations and hurting morale, which the members are finding their primaries are not good. >> the lower price of oil, the fact that ransom is a smaller part of things, the limits we are trying to put on money going in and out, and there are changes within the gulf states that make it a crime to
what we did find both when they were al qaeda in iraq and then islamic state of iraq and then when they were i.s.i.l. they basically have a promise. they have a payroll and they continue to pay family. payroll was based on family size. they continued to pay families if a person was detained or killed. what we saw was that their payroll costs were mounting throughout the 2000s when u.s. operations became very large. so they either stopped paying, that would hurt morale, they are breaking their...
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so far turkey has refused to remove forces in iraq. it said its soldiers have been invited by the local government to train fighters. they're trying to resolve the dispute while russia has called for a security committee meeting to resolve it. >> privately we've heard that there is a real fear of what is happening in iraq is the war against isil is becoming a proxy war that the regional powers are using iraq to fight each other. we're hearing a lot of sunni about the iranian role, and hearing from sheena mp she shia mps, and a lot of people are very worried here about the russian and american role also in this country. so it's likely that the reason although prime minister hyder al abadi knew about these turkish troops for over a year now, it will try to take control of its own country. that's the view of several people i've spoken to during the day here in iraq. what we're also hearing is that iraq needs to get itself together and to formulate a coalition that is really talking to each other. the moment you have a lot of very desperat
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together it is not an iraq that is a friend of america but an iraq that is a friend of iran. let's look at the numbers there were less than 300 isis fighters in ramadi over 10,000 iraqi armies, with american air power if they 10,000 could not have gotten 300 --? tom: next step is mosul. ramadi is outside of baghdad, mosul is way up north. >> that different. tom: is this something? where iraqi solers will march up there now. >> iraqi soldiers. tom: we'll see, i think they have a hard enough time holding ramadi, militarily, i mean, the north of iraq is no longer iraq, it kurdistan. and kurds are willing to fight, they have been only ones willing to fight against isis throughout. they are so willing to fight they have women as brigades they know if they are captured they know what isis does to women, they have been willing to fight, we've never directly armed them we go through iraq, central government keeping a myth alive in iraq will rise from the ashes, and be a unified country, and a beacon of peace. and pro american activity, it is not going to happen. tom: we have 11 month
together it is not an iraq that is a friend of america but an iraq that is a friend of iran. let's look at the numbers there were less than 300 isis fighters in ramadi over 10,000 iraqi armies, with american air power if they 10,000 could not have gotten 300 --? tom: next step is mosul. ramadi is outside of baghdad, mosul is way up north. >> that different. tom: is this something? where iraqi solers will march up there now. >> iraqi soldiers. tom: we'll see, i think they have a hard...
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invasion of iraq. that's when paul bremer was sent by president bush to iraq. speaking to my colleague, bremer denied allegations. >> i did not disband or destroy the iraqi army. there was not a single member of the iraqi army, that single unit standing to arms on apri april 17th as general has testified himself. the question wasn't to disband. that was a mistake we should never have used that verb. the question was should we recall the army. >> understanding the future of iraq and syria the only debate is whether ground troops would be western, arab, turkish or iranian in the fight against isil. that debate is still raging. al jazeera, erbil. >> an iraqi member of parliament and former national security adviser told al jazeera why iraq isn't happy with the presence of turkish crops on the ground in that area. >> traumatic is an independent state. when iraq needs any help from any neighboring country or u.s. or russia, the government of iraq which is an elected government should ask this particular country to help in the way we need it. they recognize the borde
invasion of iraq. that's when paul bremer was sent by president bush to iraq. speaking to my colleague, bremer denied allegations. >> i did not disband or destroy the iraqi army. there was not a single member of the iraqi army, that single unit standing to arms on apri april 17th as general has testified himself. the question wasn't to disband. that was a mistake we should never have used that verb. the question was should we recall the army. >> understanding the future of iraq and...
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>> republicans have criticized president obama for not leaving troops in iraq.ve said if american forces had stayed, there would be no isis. but one believes that was never in the cards. iraq's prime minister al maliki, had a new set of patrons, his fellow shiites in tehran, and they made him an offer he couldn't refuse. >> that was part of iran's deal with him, we'll give you a third term, but the conditions are, no american soldiers. that was what tehran had demanded. there was no way it would have gone through the parliament. >> one thing is clear, it was only iraq's army that could have stopped isis. instead the iraqi soldiers threw down their weapons and ran. [ phone ringing ] >> hello -- >> next on "blindsided." what drives these people, what makes them tick. you'll go inside the mind of a radical. meet a man who was prepared to die for a fantasy. the idea of an islamic caliphate. came out today thousands of people to run the race for retirement. so we asked them... are you completely prepared for retirement? okay, mostly prepared? could you save 1% more o
>> republicans have criticized president obama for not leaving troops in iraq.ve said if american forces had stayed, there would be no isis. but one believes that was never in the cards. iraq's prime minister al maliki, had a new set of patrons, his fellow shiites in tehran, and they made him an offer he couldn't refuse. >> that was part of iran's deal with him, we'll give you a third term, but the conditions are, no american soldiers. that was what tehran had demanded. there was no...
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together it is not an iraq that is a friend of america but an iraq that is a friend of iran.he numbers there were less than 300 isis fighters in ramadi over 10,000 iraqi armies, with american air power if they 10,000 could not have gotten 300 --? tom: next step is mosul. ramadi is outside of baghdad, mosul is way up north. >> that different. tom: is this something? where iraqi solers will march up there now. >> iraqi soldiers. tom: we'll see, i think they have a hard enough time holding ramadi, militarily, i mean, the north of iraq is no longer iraq, it kurdistan. and kurds are willing to fight, they have been only ones willing to fight against isis throughout. they are so willing to fight they have women as brigades they know if they are captured they know what isis does to women, they have been willing to fight, we've never directly armed them we go through iraq, central government keeping a myth alive in iraq will rise from the ashes, and be a unified country, and a beacon of peace. and pro american activity, it is not going to happen. tom: we have 11 months until the next
together it is not an iraq that is a friend of america but an iraq that is a friend of iran.he numbers there were less than 300 isis fighters in ramadi over 10,000 iraqi armies, with american air power if they 10,000 could not have gotten 300 --? tom: next step is mosul. ramadi is outside of baghdad, mosul is way up north. >> that different. tom: is this something? where iraqi solers will march up there now. >> iraqi soldiers. tom: we'll see, i think they have a hard enough time...
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in iraq and syria. this is al jazeera. also ahead. >>> don't bomb syria >>> thousands rally in london ahead of a parliamentary vote on whether to approve launching air strikes in syria. plus. >> reporter: in baghdad violence rises across iraq and the price of oil plum ets and civilians are going into poverty >>> government intervention clears a hazardous fog choking china's capital. obama says the u.s. is stepping up the fight against i.s.i.l. more special forces will be sent to fight the armed group in both iraq an syria. obama has expressed that the ground troop mission will be carried out alongside continued diplomatic efforts. >> reporter: the united states is intensifying the war in iraq and syria in the hope that it will eventually lead to talk of peace. >>> next, in full coordination with the government of iraq we're deploying a special targeting force to assist iraqi and peshmerga forces and putting more pressure on i.s.i.l. these special operators will over time be able to conduct raids, free hostages, gather inte
in iraq and syria. this is al jazeera. also ahead. >>> don't bomb syria >>> thousands rally in london ahead of a parliamentary vote on whether to approve launching air strikes in syria. plus. >> reporter: in baghdad violence rises across iraq and the price of oil plum ets and civilians are going into poverty >>> government intervention clears a hazardous fog choking china's capital. obama says the u.s. is stepping up the fight against i.s.i.l. more special...
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iraq, first. what is different in terms of our leverage the we can bring it to bear, especially in this time when we have a new leader in iraq. we cannot shake this relationship so we can see some of the things that you laid out in your original testimony come to fruition. i think we can concur a political transition is necessary. what vehicles are we going to use might we create so we can thatome compelling on score. issue is cutting off the ability to recruit and fundraiser for this enemy that is fraudulent. they say they advance the cause of muslims, but nothing could be further from the truth. means, whatways and is different in terms of this strategy? i will start, congressman and then maybe the chairman will want to add to it. first of all, thank you for your own service. to her next point about reconstituting our leverage and iraq, that is precisely the point i was making earlier. i think general mcfarlane is doing that. that is important insight to wield our political-military leverage in
iraq, first. what is different in terms of our leverage the we can bring it to bear, especially in this time when we have a new leader in iraq. we cannot shake this relationship so we can see some of the things that you laid out in your original testimony come to fruition. i think we can concur a political transition is necessary. what vehicles are we going to use might we create so we can thatome compelling on score. issue is cutting off the ability to recruit and fundraiser for this enemy...
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so, should we on those grounds, abandon action in iraq although we undertake it at the request of iraq's government and it does seem to be making a difference? should we take no further action against daesh, who are themselves killing innocent people and striving to kill more every day of the week? or should we simply leave it to others. would we make ourselves a bigger target for daesh attack? we are a target. we will remain a target. there's no need to wonder about it. daesh has told us so and continues to with every day that passes. we may as well take them not just at their word, but in deed, at their deeds. they have sought out our fellow country men and women to kill. including aid workers and other innocents and whatever we decide today, there is no doubt that they will do so again. nor is the consequence of inaction simply daesh controlling more territory, more land. we've seen what happens when they take control. the treatment of groups such as the yezidis in all its who should surely make us unwilling to contemplate any further extension of daesh controlled territory. in action
so, should we on those grounds, abandon action in iraq although we undertake it at the request of iraq's government and it does seem to be making a difference? should we take no further action against daesh, who are themselves killing innocent people and striving to kill more every day of the week? or should we simply leave it to others. would we make ourselves a bigger target for daesh attack? we are a target. we will remain a target. there's no need to wonder about it. daesh has told us so...
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in iraq, we have a partner. we are enabling operations with intelligence, advisers, logistics, and support. meale quickly outline what is due in the military campaign. let me provide my initial assessment of how we are doing. we are continuously examining ways to enhance effectiveness of .ur operations the leadership across the department recognized that we needed to increase pressure on isil by improving the effectiveness of airstrikes and accelerating our efforts and developing support for partners in the ground. in short, we were now satisfied we were doing every thing possible to defeat the enemy, one recognizing isil is a trans group, our immediate focus was to bear down on isil across iraq in syria simultaneously. hard work from command staff at every level, we went to the president in early october with a number of recommendations. the president approved the .nitial recommendations secretary carter provided the details in the testimony and described where we are starting to see progress and where we may s
in iraq, we have a partner. we are enabling operations with intelligence, advisers, logistics, and support. meale quickly outline what is due in the military campaign. let me provide my initial assessment of how we are doing. we are continuously examining ways to enhance effectiveness of .ur operations the leadership across the department recognized that we needed to increase pressure on isil by improving the effectiveness of airstrikes and accelerating our efforts and developing support for...
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looking at our vision for the future of iraq, what political outcomes iraq do you envision of what is your assessment the gentlemen and whether he is making necessary reforms and whether those will be and not? it is hard to find these folks. if they are not buying into what they need, politically, and they're not getting that, they will abandon that role. what is the political consequences that we need to happen iraq in order to maintain the forces and to gain more -- >> the political future that we are supporting iraq and that no one -- i believe that he supports, but it is difficult to accomplish is a multi-sectarian but decentralized iraqi state. in which the kurds and shia and sunni's can live together under one state and have a reasonable amount of self-governance, not by isil, but by people who can do a civilized job of governance . shia all living together under one state, reasonable decentralization and self-governance as appropriate, but under one state. that is a we are seeking. the alternative to that is a sectarian does integration of iraq. we know that looks like. we are
looking at our vision for the future of iraq, what political outcomes iraq do you envision of what is your assessment the gentlemen and whether he is making necessary reforms and whether those will be and not? it is hard to find these folks. if they are not buying into what they need, politically, and they're not getting that, they will abandon that role. what is the political consequences that we need to happen iraq in order to maintain the forces and to gain more -- >> the political...
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>> well, kurds, for example. >> and in iraq? >> kurds also, for example. >> was that part -- >> that's a fact. is there still a lot farther to go? you bet there is. i'm committed, and i will be, and i have been absolutely candid with you.ive expect intelligence officials to be candid with me. i can't comment on an inspector general investigation. >> mr. secretary -- >> but i will tell you -- >> wait. it's my time. it's your testimony that you're here today because the kurds have advanced because we have momentum and that isil is shrinking? >> for that and a number of other reasons, we are gathering momentum. it is a fact that the territory under isil's control has shrunk. that's not a declaration of victory. >> you have indicated it is war. are we winning, mr. secretary? >> we will win. >> are we winning now? >> we are going to win. >> mr. secretary, i admit both of sides of the aisle are not confident that you have a strategy and you do not have based on an accurate assessment i think your presentation here today shows a discon
>> well, kurds, for example. >> and in iraq? >> kurds also, for example. >> was that part -- >> that's a fact. is there still a lot farther to go? you bet there is. i'm committed, and i will be, and i have been absolutely candid with you.ive expect intelligence officials to be candid with me. i can't comment on an inspector general investigation. >> mr. secretary -- >> but i will tell you -- >> wait. it's my time. it's your testimony that you're...
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iraq is the government in iraq is a shiite government. it basically includes neither kurds more sunnies. >> you have araised a very interesting point. i'm intrigued by the points claimed by isil. this is them talking about what is going on across the border. treatment number one is deal with isil. stream number two is then address the issue of bashar al-assad. between stream one and stream two, if the continuity of those moderate fighters on the ground begins to break down what does the u.s.-led coalition do at that point? >> okay, well we're talking about again about syria. the main forces are the kurdish forces and they're not going to advance beyond the kurdish areas basically along the border of turkey. it is unclear even if isil is pushed back, the only force that is going to be able to push back and destroy isil and syria is going to be the syrian government. and at the moment that's not acceptable to the united states and a well, the gulf states and turkey. but there isn't a plausible non-kurdish moderate force that is going to be
iraq is the government in iraq is a shiite government. it basically includes neither kurds more sunnies. >> you have araised a very interesting point. i'm intrigued by the points claimed by isil. this is them talking about what is going on across the border. treatment number one is deal with isil. stream number two is then address the issue of bashar al-assad. between stream one and stream two, if the continuity of those moderate fighters on the ground begins to break down what does the...
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we should draw lessons with iraq. we are struggling to defeat daesh in iraq and that is with, estimates vary but certainly 800, 900,000 security forces on our payroll. i mean one strategy you could employ is actually finish the job in iraq before we actually start thinking about any long-term strategy in syria. but again, we're struggling. that is one of the fundamental differences between iraq and syria. as for the issue about taking, about sitting at the top table, can i just address this point centrally? this is the strong message when we were visiting the middle east. we're already at the top table. china is not intending it intervene. yet set sits at the top table as member p 5. we would do so also, and quite clearly we're showing solidarity with our partners. in conclusion, mr. speaker, the short-term effect of british airstrikes will be marginal. i think most people accept that. but as we intervene, more, we become more responsible for the events on the ground and lay ourselves open to the unintended consequenc
we should draw lessons with iraq. we are struggling to defeat daesh in iraq and that is with, estimates vary but certainly 800, 900,000 security forces on our payroll. i mean one strategy you could employ is actually finish the job in iraq before we actually start thinking about any long-term strategy in syria. but again, we're struggling. that is one of the fundamental differences between iraq and syria. as for the issue about taking, about sitting at the top table, can i just address this...
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the north of iraq is no longer iraq. it, kurdistan. the kurds are willing to fight.the only ones willing to fight against isis throughout. they are so willing to fight they even have women's brigades. and those women know if they ar captured, they know what isis does to women. we tends to always go through iraq, the central government, that somehow iraq is going to rise from the ashes and be a unified country and a go con of peace and pro-american activity in the region. i don't think it's going happen. tom: your comments that we have 9-10 months until the next election. it's all p.r. proper began today? >> we read about this great ramadi victory? what are we read being? the pentagon is going step upp its p.r. efforts. the president feels the strategy is the right strategy it's not that there is a problem with the strategy. it's a problem with the p.r. strategy. that says enough right there. be sure to vote in tonight's poll. do with you believe american troops will ever leave iraq and and? cast your vote at loudobbs.com. follow the show on twitter and like us on fac
the north of iraq is no longer iraq. it, kurdistan. the kurds are willing to fight.the only ones willing to fight against isis throughout. they are so willing to fight they even have women's brigades. and those women know if they ar captured, they know what isis does to women. we tends to always go through iraq, the central government, that somehow iraq is going to rise from the ashes and be a unified country and a go con of peace and pro-american activity in the region. i don't think it's...
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so should we on those grounds abandon action in iraq although we undertake it at the request of iraq's government and it does seem to be making a difference? should we take no further action against daesh who are themselves killing innocent people and striving to kill more every day of the week? or should we simply leave it to others? would we make ourselves a bigger target for daesh attack? we are a target. we will remain a target. no need to wonder about it. daesh has told us so and continues to tell us so with every day that passes. we may as well take them not just at their word, but indeed at their deeds. they have sought out our fellow countrymen and women to kill including aid workers and other innocents and whatever we decide today, there is no doubt that they will do so again. nor is the consequence of inaction simply daesh controlling more territory, more land. we've seen what happens where they take control. the treatment of groups such as the yazidis in all its horror should surely make us unwilling to contemplate any further extension of daesh-controlled territory. inactio
so should we on those grounds abandon action in iraq although we undertake it at the request of iraq's government and it does seem to be making a difference? should we take no further action against daesh who are themselves killing innocent people and striving to kill more every day of the week? or should we simply leave it to others? would we make ourselves a bigger target for daesh attack? we are a target. we will remain a target. no need to wonder about it. daesh has told us so and continues...
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in iraq.ce then, our brilliant pilots have helped local forces to halt isil's advance and recover 30% of the territory isil captured. i monday i spoke to the president of iraq and he expressed his thanks. and when our planes reach the border with syria, we can no longer act to defund his country or our country even when we know that isil's headquarters are in raqqa in syria, and it's from here that many of the plots against our country are formed. >> there's no doubt that the so-called islamic state has imposed a reign of sectarian and imhuman terror. and there's no question that it also poses a threat to our own people. the issue now is whether extending british bombing from iraq to syria is likely to reduce or increase that threat to britain, and whether it will counter or spread the terror campaign isil is wages across the middle east. the answers don't make the case for the government motion. on the contrary. they are warning to step back. >>> charlie angela is live for us outside of the h
in iraq.ce then, our brilliant pilots have helped local forces to halt isil's advance and recover 30% of the territory isil captured. i monday i spoke to the president of iraq and he expressed his thanks. and when our planes reach the border with syria, we can no longer act to defund his country or our country even when we know that isil's headquarters are in raqqa in syria, and it's from here that many of the plots against our country are formed. >> there's no doubt that the so-called...
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special operations forces to be based if iraq and do raids and missions in iraq and even go into syria. very dangerous business. they want to build on the intelligence capability already there. have these troops go rescue hostages, gather intelligence, attack isis leadership. all of that. now, it's going to be a relatively small number of special operations forces, but they will be backed up in a significant manner. they will have their own helicopters, their own rescue force, if they run into trouble. so at the end of the day, this could put another 200 troops into the arena, even as an additional 50 special operations forces are scheduled to arrive in northern syria. it is a brush-up in the u.s. effort. officials are el theing us it could still be weeks before troops arrive. a lot of work to be done about what units will go and exactly how they will operate. allison, christine. >> there is concern this morning about a new united nations report warning that isis has succeeded if building a substantial presence in libya. the eun report says isis has as many as 3 nouchlt,000 fighte,00 s
special operations forces to be based if iraq and do raids and missions in iraq and even go into syria. very dangerous business. they want to build on the intelligence capability already there. have these troops go rescue hostages, gather intelligence, attack isis leadership. all of that. now, it's going to be a relatively small number of special operations forces, but they will be backed up in a significant manner. they will have their own helicopters, their own rescue force, if they run into...
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troops in iraq. but at this point we're just going to have to wait and see what the president has to say. again, a statement expected to run ten minutes or so. >> if you're wondering why we're watching, it's because the president will be walking through that door at the pentagon briefing room. as we're awaiting the president it's important to point out when it comes to the issue of isil it has been described as a game of whack-a-mole. you have these lone wolf attacks as we've seen in san bernardino, which everybody decides it is impossible to stop because of the issue with guns. something that the president chooses to talk about, and something that the republicans choose not to. how do you defeat one without addressing the other? >> the pentagon strategy, and we've heard defense secretary ash carter use this phraseology in the last week or so, he keeps making the point while the threat of isil has ma it was at the sized in parts of the world, the tomber is in iraq and syria. so the strategy is to tak
troops in iraq. but at this point we're just going to have to wait and see what the president has to say. again, a statement expected to run ten minutes or so. >> if you're wondering why we're watching, it's because the president will be walking through that door at the pentagon briefing room. as we're awaiting the president it's important to point out when it comes to the issue of isil it has been described as a game of whack-a-mole. you have these lone wolf attacks as we've seen in san...
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i just came back from iraq. we visited the eastern front lines of mosul, they say there are 4500 isis fighters. the problem is there ar that the peshmerga say that they can't clear and hold the territory and the shi shiite military cannot hold it. now you see iraqi security forces with the iran-backed shia militias going in to push these guys out. i don't know what that is going to do. we'll have to wait and see what happens. if they succeed it's because they killed isis and the sunni population. we have to watch ramadi to tell anything about mosul. >> just one final thought if you need to build a sunni militia, the iraqi government seems to be against that from what you said. what chance is there of isil being defeated there, and, in fact, is there a will on behalf the iraqi government to do so? when i talked with the peshmer peshmerga, they carry iraqi flags. iraqi is more concerned about kirkuk man mosul. they're funneling international monies to shia militias that iran backs to go up against the sunnies. tha
i just came back from iraq. we visited the eastern front lines of mosul, they say there are 4500 isis fighters. the problem is there ar that the peshmerga say that they can't clear and hold the territory and the shi shiite military cannot hold it. now you see iraqi security forces with the iran-backed shia militias going in to push these guys out. i don't know what that is going to do. we'll have to wait and see what happens. if they succeed it's because they killed isis and the sunni...
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well, kurds, for example. >> in iraq? >> kurds also, for example. >> and was that -- >> that's a fact. is there's still a lot farther to go, you bet there is. and i'm committed and i will be and i have been absolutely candid with you. i expect intelligence officials to be candid with me. i can't comment on an investigator general investigation. >> so, mr. secretary, it's my time. the kurds have made advances, that we have momentum and isil is shrinking? >> we are gathering momentum. that's not a declaration of victory. >> are we winning? >> we will win. >> are we winning now? >> we are going to win. >> both sides of the aisles think you do not have a strategy. your presentation here today shows a disconnect between with all of the information we are receiving and really what's being placed into the united states' effort. i yield back. >> i want to thank both witnesses for their testimony today, particularly in my opinion powerful statement, if we want to do something on our side of the table we need to act, we need to mov
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announces to send more troops to iraq. iraq prime minister says, not so fast. we will have all the details for you. good morning, i'm nicole petallides. >> cheryl: gong, -- good morning, i'm cheryl casone. we may find out. >> nicole: let's check out what's going on with futures after yesterday triple-digit gain. s&p futures up right now almost 3 ahead of the bell. >> cheryl: yahoo's board will consider selling the company's internet businesses. we are going to look what that means to ceo marisa myers. >> nicole: he and his wife will donate 99% of money to charity. >> cheryl: details coming up. first look at what's moving in fbn:am, first look on markets and what to expect on your day ahead. >> we are deploying targeting force to assist iraqi and kurdish forces and put more pressure on isil, special operators will conduct raids, free hostages, gather intelligence and capture isil leaders. >> nicole: ash carter telling armed services committed that it's being done with in cooperation with government. iraqi quite minister issueing that there's no need for foot gro
announces to send more troops to iraq. iraq prime minister says, not so fast. we will have all the details for you. good morning, i'm nicole petallides. >> cheryl: gong, -- good morning, i'm cheryl casone. we may find out. >> nicole: let's check out what's going on with futures after yesterday triple-digit gain. s&p futures up right now almost 3 ahead of the bell. >> cheryl: yahoo's board will consider selling the company's internet businesses. we are going to look what...
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elsewhere in iraq we have about 3500 troops at six locations in iraq in support of iraqi security forces, the isf. they are we can provide increased lethal fire and augment existing training, advising and assisting program, and we're prepared to do more as iraq shows capability and motivation into cannot isil fight in resolving this political divisions. the progress in the sunni portions of iraq as mentioned by mr. smith is a campaign to recapture ramadi shows has been slow. much to our and prime minister abadi's frustration. despite his efforts, sectarian politics and iranian influence, have made building a multi-sectarian iraqi security forces difficult. but with some notable exceptions such as the effective use trained counterterrorism forces. we continue to offer additional uses support of all kinds and urge baghdad to enroll, training, arming and pay sunni arab fighters. as well as local sunni arab police forces to hold territory recaptured from isil. all these efforts from northern syria to iraq have shrunk the isil controlled territory. important we have an opportunity to divide i
elsewhere in iraq we have about 3500 troops at six locations in iraq in support of iraqi security forces, the isf. they are we can provide increased lethal fire and augment existing training, advising and assisting program, and we're prepared to do more as iraq shows capability and motivation into cannot isil fight in resolving this political divisions. the progress in the sunni portions of iraq as mentioned by mr. smith is a campaign to recapture ramadi shows has been slow. much to our and...
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is a direct threat to iraq and the government of iraq. he talks about some of the veterans as being from iraq. i would also add to that what's happened in tikrit, since that's been taken off isil. we have seen 70% of its population returning to that city. later on in this debate, the importance of humanitarian aide and reconstruction, that can only work if you have good government in those times and the absence of isil in those. we'll make a little bit of progress and i will take more interventions including from the different political parties in this house. mr. speaker, since my statement last week, the house has had an opportunity to ask questions of our security expert. i've arranged a briefing for all members, as well as more detailed briefings. i've spoken further to our allies, including president obama, chancellor merkel and the king of jordan. the king of jordan written in the daily telegraph expressing his wish for britain to stand with jordan in eliminating this global threat. i've also listened carefully to the questions asked
is a direct threat to iraq and the government of iraq. he talks about some of the veterans as being from iraq. i would also add to that what's happened in tikrit, since that's been taken off isil. we have seen 70% of its population returning to that city. later on in this debate, the importance of humanitarian aide and reconstruction, that can only work if you have good government in those times and the absence of isil in those. we'll make a little bit of progress and i will take more...
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to expand it's use of special forces on the ground, in iraq.and potentially in syria. >> back home, 16 lebanese soldiers freed in the prisoner swap with syrias front rebels.
to expand it's use of special forces on the ground, in iraq.and potentially in syria. >> back home, 16 lebanese soldiers freed in the prisoner swap with syrias front rebels.
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. ♪ z >> the united states has run thousands of air strikes in syria and iraq.rance and russia are now in the war. nato member turkey is involved up to its eye teeth, but as he saw in the russian jet shootdown, not always with the same priorities as its assumed allies. stop me when you think we have reached something that sounds like world war 3.0. it's the inside story. ♪ >>> welcome to "inside story." i'm ray suarez. no, i'm not suggesting that this conflict is as extensive or threatening as the total war fought in every corner of the globe in world war ii. but when the list of combatants in iraq and syria is as long as this, it makes both the war on the ground and diplomacy at the bargaining table extremely complex. exhibit a, turkey's recent shootdown of a russian military jet in the skies over syria. turkey says it warned the jet repeatedly. russia denies that took place. turkey has refused to apologize, russia has laid on economic sanctions. al jazeera america claimed responsibility for the paris attacks. france is fighting back hard. >> we would like to s
. ♪ z >> the united states has run thousands of air strikes in syria and iraq.rance and russia are now in the war. nato member turkey is involved up to its eye teeth, but as he saw in the russian jet shootdown, not always with the same priorities as its assumed allies. stop me when you think we have reached something that sounds like world war 3.0. it's the inside story. ♪ >>> welcome to "inside story." i'm ray suarez. no, i'm not suggesting that this conflict is as...
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is expanding its troops in iraq. few ground troops head in, terrorists make alarming new ganci in libya. good morning, welcome to "early start." >> good morning, i'm christine romans, the search is on for a new head of the chicago police department after mayor rahm emanuel dismissed mccarthy after a shooting of laquan mcdonal. after laquan's resignation, lisa madigans request says the shocking death of laquan mcdonald highlights serious questions about the use of unlawful and excessive force by chicago police officers and the lack of accountability for such abuse. cnn's ed le van darragh has more from chicago. >> reporter: >> reporter: people say the firing of the city's top cop is just the beginning of the changes they want to see. a great deal of scrutiny as well as mayor rahm emanuel and why it took so long for officer van dyke to be charged with murder in the shooting of laquan mcdonald. the actions of both pen under a great deal of scrutiny. rahm emanuel says there has been too much focus on the superintendent o
is expanding its troops in iraq. few ground troops head in, terrorists make alarming new ganci in libya. good morning, welcome to "early start." >> good morning, i'm christine romans, the search is on for a new head of the chicago police department after mayor rahm emanuel dismissed mccarthy after a shooting of laquan mcdonal. after laquan's resignation, lisa madigans request says the shocking death of laquan mcdonald highlights serious questions about the use of unlawful and...
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the region that has been a bridge between the pkk and iraq and to create that link between pkk and iraq and pyg and syria. >> thank you for joining us with your analysis. thank you. >> thank you. >> well, as we mentioned more than 100 delegates from the various factions have gathered. there is optimism that progress can be made. >> the opposition here and other countries, a big proportion of them agree with regard to the political solution and process. we see way out in a document of consensus. >> a senior analyst, a warm welcome. thank you for being with us. with such a fractured oppositi opposition, is progress be made or is this just getting all the stake holders in one place and making a start. >> getting all the stake holders in one place is a start, but it's only a start. there is a big problem in the opposition among a number of problems. the fact that the armed opposition on the ground, and here i mean revolutionary groups that are not transnational jihadi groups, we're not referring to isis but a range of groups who identify with the syrian revolution. they're not well represen
the region that has been a bridge between the pkk and iraq and to create that link between pkk and iraq and pyg and syria. >> thank you for joining us with your analysis. thank you. >> thank you. >> well, as we mentioned more than 100 delegates from the various factions have gathered. there is optimism that progress can be made. >> the opposition here and other countries, a big proportion of them agree with regard to the political solution and process. we see way out in...