and iraqi interests. and the fact that our troops are gone, has taken away a rationale how ever ill founded for some of these attacks. what we've seen are repeated continued attacks from al qaeda in iraq. they retain capacity. the iraqis also have a real capacity that's been developed over the years to deal with these problems. a counter terrorism capacity that's effective and significant and security forces that get better and better. maybe most important despite the repeated attacks by al qaeda in iraq and the violence that they perpetrate, we have not seen a cycle of sectarian violence spiral up again. we have not seen sunni arabs rally. they reject it. i think as bad as some of these attacks are, and that's the thing that gets in the newspapers still, when you look at the larger factors in play, that should be something that can be managed and hopefully eventually dealt with. and then in terms of the shiite militia that some of whom are backed by iran, we've seen a significant diminution in their acti

the iraqi capital alternates between days of violence and days of peace the u.s. army is committed to point out of the country by december the police and the iraqi army will step in and choose. these traffic jams are an indicator of peace in iraq . the city seems revived with businesses springing up once again and residents doing their shopping in the city center. a city center that is returning to its pre-war opulence. but is the war really over though the situation in baghdad has improved other cities have been tossed into the garbage falutin for instance my parents' home town after the war the city was totally cut off only the inhabitants have a right to come and go freely. so i like them but i have family and friends there and i speak iraqi arabic i make contact with a friend in flu shot. chemistry. i'll come pick you up and we'll go wherever you want. this is eunice he's thirty two years old a former football player for lucia now one employed. i first met him while doing a news report four years ago it was he who called my attention to the seriously deformed

iraqi is from many different. parts of society that are trying to remove those foreign forces. this is the ongoing situation that is part of so people started to ten years ago with the invasion and occupation of iraq about the suspicions of al qaeda to behind this all the trying to get a foothold of power there in what many describe as a failed state. you know before the invasion of iraq there was very little evidence despite some relegations or very little concrete evidence of al qaida having any role in the situation in iraq but since that time as you point out because the government has not been able to exercise control over many parts of the country it's very fertile territory for different types of terrorist organizations to settle in and to be able to carry out crimes attacks i mentioned earlier that some have called this a failed state there in iraq we had one guest on earlier saying the country's in tatters is that really the case and i think probably politically certainly and security wise that certainly adequate and. the consistent description of the situation in iraq

we'll have the latest from our correspondent in the iraqi capital. a general strike is underway in spain called by the union owes to oppose the government's labor reforms. we spoke about the timing of the strike. >> coming a day before the budget, is government will announce that new budget tomorrow and although this is a lot about the labor reforms the government brought in trying to cut that huge unemployment, this is also about the austerity measures that we expect tomorrow from the government. they are under huge pressure from brussels to make more cuts. the new government only came in this december. they said our finances are much worse than we were led to believe by the previous government. the target they came up with is not good enough and there is a lot of pressure from brussles to cut even further. do we expect the get any surprises tomorrow when we find out how it stacks up? >> i don't think so. this strike is going to make no difference in what we plan to do. we're still going to make huge cuts to public services in spain. one economist s

in terms of working with the iraqi government there are two problems. first of all at the whole sale or macro level you have difficulties with the iraqi system funding large scale infrastructure projects. the iraqis don't want to take out loans and there are some limitations on what they can do. this makes the process basically you have to get legislative decision or law for each project, very cumbersome and it's slowing down the development. we're working with them on that but that's the first constraint. countries need to find models to fund infrastructure development. they are putting a third of their $100 billion budget into infrastructure. a large part flows to the international community but nonetheless build, operate, turn over models and creative models that other countries have used, there is a real need for that in iraq. at the retail or micro level, operating in iraq is a daily challenge from visas to finding communications, to communicate with your government, it's very, very demanding environment but we are a very, very supportive embassy a

side versus the iraqi side. despite the fact that most of our airplanes didn't run into each other, i don't find the outcome anymore surprising than i could -- would if the nfl took on a tag team paraplegic football team. >> well, you're exactly right and that's the way it should be? but what if your nfl team got beat. by the paraplegiy team? i was take -- make the point that if you spent the money and it works, it's worth it. >> have you seen the film out on robert mcnamara? it's a lot to chew on but i recommend. >> somehow i had one big lesson from mr. mcnamara in vietnam and i'll eschew the other 10. >> ditto. it was a great movie and lots of lessons to be learned from that. question the i have, with all this wonderful technology and ability to pinpoint people and bombs and satellites, it's beyond me why we can't find bin laden. we know where he is, in northwest pakistan. he's got people, clothing, shelter. it's beyond me why we can't find him. >> i know that the, when you have the president of pakistan and d

iraqi of up to about 2.7 million barrels a day. the trend, if it continues, and the projections are it will top 3 million barrels a day by the end of this year. we have done a very careful assessment. we have sent out a very senior officials including the deputy secretary of energy and others and we have a very good team in place at the embassy. they look at this carefully and worked closely with the iraqis. the good news is the potential over the next couple years is probably for iraq to get up to maybe as much as 4 million barrels a day. that is the good news. the bad news is, absent significant investment in infrastructure and financing, it is going to be hard to move beyond that. and so, the iraqis need to do a number of things. first, they need to finally resolve the question of their oil law.. that is who decides on contracts, how the proceeds are distributed. a lot of this is happening as a practical matter on a day in and day out basis. but the lack a law continues -- but the lack of a law continues to cause tension with th

and the iraqi indicated in that e-mail that he was of the impression that mr. hultz was planning to leave iraq in the near future. so this was in jury june. and that was the first that we had ever heard of him. and at that point, we looked into it. we were able to figure out the hotel where the iraqi had thought he had been staying. and living. we consulted with the hotel with iraqi authorities in the weeks that followed, and we weren't able to find any trace of him. so at that point, we assumed i think that he had left the country. he had not chosen to contact us. so that was our only information about him one way or the other until he showed up at the u.n. >> and that iraqi friend never got back to you and said by the way, he is kidnapped? >> nope. and we were never contacted by any family members in the united states either. i agree with you. unusual story. other thoughts? andy. >> and some new details from the state department. again, the comments of victoria nuland on that american who was freed after being held captive for the last nine months, released o

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i see the iraqi government put out its first official estimate of how many iraqis died. i think it was somewhere close to 100,000 civilians. it is pretty shocking. i do not disagree with the caller that the figure is very hard to get one's head around. from the american government perspective, that loss of life is officially deplorable. they focus on the american soldiers because that is their job. it is an unfortunate but expected the economy -- dichotomy in war. host: what is the average tour of duty at the embassy? what is their experience like? guest: in the past, and has been one year. that is quite different from the tours of duty diplomats serving and other embassies. this was considered a hardship post. i remember when condoleezza rice was secretary of state, there was a real call for diplomats and civil servants across the american government to step up and volunteer for this hardship posts because there were hard to fill. it is good for their careers if they serve in these places. they are often compensated financially in a way that is different from if they we

and we work with our iraqi friends. >> thank you. let me go to libya and their weapons at titles. when gadhafi's regime, it was discovered yet undeclared stocks of chemical weapons as well as large quantities of conventional weapons. can you tell

iraqi of up to about 2.7 million barrels a day.he trend, if it continues, and the projections are it will top 3 million barrels a day by the end of this year. we have done a very careful assessment. we have sent out a very senior officials including the deputy secretary of energy and others and we have a very good team in place at the embassy. they look at this carefully and worked closely with the iraqis. the good news is the potential over the next couple years is probably for iraq to get up to maybe as much as 4 million barrels a day. that is the good news. the bad news is, absent significant investment in infrastructure and financing, it is going to be hard to move beyond that. and so, the iraqis need to do a number of things. first, they need to finally resolve the question of their oil law.. that is who decides on contracts, how the proceeds are distributed. a lot of this is happening as a practical matter on a day in and day out basis. but the lack a law continues -- but the lack of a law continues to cause tension with the

in a place like baghdad, prudent measures require iraqi army, iraqi police to do the external security in a much more visual, obvious way. >> okay. turning back to iran. if we all know the threat in iran is real, would you discuss the relationship of iran to syria, to hezbollah? and on 60 minutes, secretary panetta said there was a red line for us. i know in the discussions between mr. netanyahu and the president and the last several days there seems to be some closing of the gap on our different ideas about dealing with iran and the growing concern. what actions, military or otherwise, should we be considering in connection with iran? i don't mean to put you in a classified positionment but just generally could you give us your idea? >> yes, sir. the iranian threat is basically along four lines. there's this nuclear program where they're enriching more uranium than they need for any peaceful purpose. and that went through denial and deception. they have tried to keep that program going. the iaea has tried the best to monitor it. they've had an unfortunate visit there recently. the sec

officials have increased their dialogue with iraqi leaders. his remarks came in a discussion at the center for american progress. the nearly 9-year conflict officially ended december 18, 2011. this is about 45 minutes. >> center for american progress, i'm rudy deleone, the senior vice president for national security. on behalf of all of my colleagues here at the center and with the national security program, i want to welcome you. for the first time in nine years the united states does not have troops fighting in iraq. president barack obama fulfilled his promise to end the war in iraq as part of an overall strategy to rebalance america's national security priorities. today we'll discuss this and have this presentation on the end of the iraq war, and america's ongoing engagement yet in iraq. with anthony blinken, the deputy assistant to president obama and the national security adviser to vice president joe biden. our colleague brian katulus has done a brief paper, it's on the back paper for all of you who want to make sure you grab a copy. in

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now the iraqi people a chance to foforge their own destiny. everyone of you catake pride in knowing you gave the iraqis that opportunity. you succeeded in your mission. >>t remains to be seen what thee iraqis wl do with the opportunity. president obama hosting a dinner at the white house for iraqi war veterans. we're still very much in afghanistan. the people the military has been training are now killing our troops. is it time to get out? >> there is a plan to disengage. the question is w whether we step up the timetable. there is the big question around afghanistan, the future of aq syria and what will happen there, and the larger question about iran and what is going to happen there with respect to whether israel feelsls the need to take a strikee and what that does to the united states. it is not just one country. it is the whole region that poses serious challenges to the united states. >> is re the prime minister will be in washington next week. -- t the israeli prime minister will be in washington next week. it will be interesting. >> i

there has been no substantial agreement between the major components of the iraqi society. there has been no movement on the provincial power act to decide what the relationship between the center and the periphery of the country is. >> what would be the relationship between political progress on those fronts and stopping the kinds of attacks that we saw today? >> what we are seeing is the difference between ending your involvement in a row and to end a war, this takes continued improvement in the political and security fronts and quite frankly we have not seen that improvement. >> if you were to extrapolate, from what we saw today in iraq to the lessons we might learn from afghanistan, what would you say? >> first, told very clearly in your mind the difference between ending your involvement and ending the war. second, that once we extract ourselves, nato and the u.s., our involvement does not end. we see the trend of al qaeda which is disturbing. they have gone from individual isolated attacks to more frequent coordinated attacks. this is a very disturbing trend and we ca

now the iraqi people have a chance to forge their own destiny. everyone his serve their can take pride in knowing that you gave the rockies their opportunity. he succeeded in intermission. -- you succeeded in your mission. you talk to us about -- you taught us about devotion and family. i know some of the hardest days with the momentum is back home. birthdays, anniversaries, when your little girl or boy to their first steps. behind every one of you, was a parent, spouse, a son or a daughter. the pri for the day you come home safely. that is why they have made it their mission to make sure america takes care of your family is. they inspire us as much as you do. that is why i would ask families to stand up and accept our gratitude for your remarkable service. you look so good tonight. [applause] you top this about sacrifice. -- you talked about sacrifice. you're willing to give your allies for its. with a tribute to all that did. remember the first day of war. corporate brian matthew kennedy, kindle damon waters babay.] we remember the last. daniel

army how long the iraqis have to suffer the consequences of the war. the bush administration boasted of waging a clean war but it continues to sacrifice generations of children both in iraq and the united states. in fallujah two to three deformed babies are born every day most live put a few hours. a space in the cemetery reserved for these victims grow steadily. just so. we'll do the. science technology innovation all the latest developments from around russia we've got the future of coverage. in motion would be soon which brightened if you move on sound from phones to impressions. from stunts on t.v. don't come. you know how sometimes you see a story and it seems so for life you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and you hear or see some other part of it and realize that everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm targeting welcome to the big picture. there hasn't been anything good on t.v. . is to get the maximum political impact possible.

in a place like baghdad prudent measures require iraqi army, iraqi police to do the external security in a much more visual, obvious way. >> turning back to iran, as we all know the threat in iran is real, what you have discussed, the relationship of iran to syria and has blocked -- his beloved --hezbollah there is a red line for us. in the discussions between benjamin netanyahu and the president and the last several days there seem to be several closing of the gap on different ideas about dealing with iran and the growing concern, what actions military or otherwise should we be considering in connection with iran? a don't mean to put you in a classified position but generally could you give us your idea? >> yes, sir. the iranian threat is basically a long four lines. there is this nuclear program where they are enriching more uranium than they need for any peaceful purpose and that one through denial and deception they tried to keep that program going. iaea tried to monitor it. they have an unfortunate -- a second thread is the long-range rocket ballistic missile threat. that one has

now the iraqi people have a chance to forge their own destiny. everyone of you who served there can take pride in knowing you gave the iraqis that opportunity. you succeeded in your mission. >> it remains to be seen what the iraqis will do with the opportunity. president obama is hosting a dinner of the white house this week for veterans. we're still very much in afghanistan. they are now killing our troops. is it time to get out? >> there is a plan to disengage. the question is whether we step up the timetable. there is a big question about afghanistan and the future of iraq and in syria. there is the larger question about iran and what will happen there with respect to whether israel feels the need to take a swipe. it is not one country. the whole region poses serious challenges to the united states. >> the israeli prime minister will be in washington next week. it will be interesting. >> i talked to a senior republican former executive branch official. i asked if the raise the region if the israelis were going to bomb iran. i asked the israeli

that if the foreign interference does appear to be more of a hindrance than a help what about the iraqi people though do you think that they do do they perhaps have any optimism at all for the future could we see a democratic party merging it's all in any way. i don't think so i think we've. destroyed a country we've destroyed its culture we've also destroyed its future its children in the last nine years the u.k. in the us military have dropped over two thousand tonnes of depleted uranium on iraq. places like saluja. cancer spreading in that region. childhood child birth effects just off the scale doctors and midwives just can't cope at the moment. i think probably what's what's really happened is in two thousand and four when they had the what they declared to be the free fire zones in fallujah that was basically they just dropped and not mean to flatten the place i think somebody told me recently that there's been more atomic weapons used in iraq in the last nine years and was used in and hiroshima so the scale of the devastation caused is is tremendous but this devastation will cont

. >>> hundreds of thousands of iraqis filled the streets in basra, marking nine years since the u.s. led invasion of iraq. but these followers of anti american shiite cleric are keeping their message toyish uhs close to home demanding better living conditions and more jobs. >> the government are not taking care of the people, of the poor, who have no food and drink, a bag of flour is $20, god can't accept this, the poor are suffering too much. >> a spokesman says they want the iraqi government to step up, with better paying jobs and public services, as well, as fights corruption now that u.s. troops have left iraq. american forces pulled out the last remaining combat troops from the country back in december, the official unemployment rate in iraq is 15%, although, the actual figure is believed to be closer to 30%. as the violence across the country has declined developing their broken economy is a key concern for many iraqis the government has a five year economic development plan which aims to create 3 to 4 million new jobs by 2014, but the plan has done little to ease concern the g

they looked at this and worked closely with the iraqis. the good news is that the potential over the next couple of years is probably for iraq to get up to maybe as much as four million barrels a day. the bad news is absent significant additional investment and financing it's going to be hard to move beyond that. so the iraq es need to do a number of things. the first thing is they need finally resolve a question of their so called oil law. that is who decides on contracts. how are the proceeds distribu d distributed. a lot of this is happening as a as a matter of fact matter. not day in day out. the lack of a law creates tension. it continues to create uncertainty for potential investors so that's one thing that needs to happen. there has been some discussion of movement but we've seen that so the jury is out. the financing system for the argue sector needs to change. the the profit potential needs to be -- many investing now on the basis of service contracts, that's going to need to change. and open this to financing systems that are use

iraqi officials have released a plan they claim to be a former american soldier who had been captured. theycy it is an act of goodwill. but the u.s. government has not yet commented. the news at 5:00 starts right now. >>> good evening. in case you haven't been outside for a couple of hours, it's getting cold out there. the winter storm that blew in from alaska and brought with it so much rain is producing very cold temperatures from tahoe to the bay area. let's go now to nbc bay area's rob mayeda to see what's happening. >> we're seeing the strongest cells on the radar we've seen during the afternoon. we expected it with the cold air coming in. the heating of the day, the atmosphere, very unstable around the bay area. and into the areas in yellow and orange around concord to the south of alamo into san ramon, h very likely areas seeing hail coming down. the convective showers, another shower passing to the south of campbell and east of san jose, that's snow flying atop mount hamilton. you can see the moisture cartwheeling around to our south for most of the day. right around 2:00 this

government helicopters that are being sold to the iraqi government by the same company that is acting on behalf of the russian government to arm the syrians and i share his concern that there appears to be a less than compelling reason to use return an helicopters sold by this company in afghanistan, when we could be selling our own helicopters to them. and i ask also, mr. chairman that an additional article on that subject be made a part of the record, it's a july 24, 2011 article from the "washington times" involved pro russia stalls afghanistan helicopters. >> if those reports are true, we will share your same concern. >> there's no denial in the reports that it's no true, there's no denial from any official sources and i hope we would have a response. thank you so much for your service to the country and you are is very helpful testimony. -- and your very helpful testimony. thank you. >> because we would all be very much concerned with the issue that senator has raised and was just mentioned, we would hope you get us the detail on that forth with. mr. graham? >> i asked that quest

they have listening devices installed i believe by the iraqi government. that's supposed to be a home, not a prison. is there anything that you can do to ensure that the cameras are removed? pressure to see if those cameras can be removed? what pressure is being placed on the iraqi government to guarantee the security of those i ra iranian residents that live that and what's being done to make sure they are not moved to iran where they would suffer pretty enormous consequences. >> let me address the role the united nations has played and the role we have played in support of that process. first of all, the arrangements that were negotiated between the iraqis on the one hand and the residents of camp ashraf on the other were the product of, we think, some very important and impressive and successful unite special representative martin kobler who has negotiated arrangements and overseen this -- the beginning of this transition of residents from ashraf to liberty. the united nations is in there monitoring the situation 24/7 and providing a degree of oversight

government, have had approximately 690 total mentoring and advising sessions with over 86 iraqi counterparts. and we've recently completed an assessment of iraq's ministry of interior and police services so that we can rell refine how we are monitoring and what kind of performance measurements we need. i think that cgar performs a valuable oversight service. we welcome helpful recommendations about how to make the police development program better. we are implementing the recommendations from the fall audit, and we're going to continue to look at opportunities to improve the effectiveness of these programs. we think they are critical to the stability and security of iraq. so we take it very seriously, and we take recommendations from cgar and others very seriously as well. >> and finally, in my remaining time, i just want to add my voices to others that -- about our continued effective and full engagement at the u.n. certainly not a perfect body but one that certainly there have been some successes there vital for our security and economic interest and appreciate those continued efforts. >>

but it is a less capable iraqi security force without our capabilities there. they're scrambling to try and fill in the gaps. we're working with our small footprint there to help them fill in those gaps. but it is -- it's a concern i know for the iraqi government and it's a concern for ambassador jeffries. >> do you think al qaeda is making a comeback in iraq? >> yes, sir. they are. it's not significant. it won't threaten the government. it will kill a lot of innocent people. >> and what about the favoritism in the iraqi government for the majority shia political party? do you think that's fueling another insurgency potentially and does this play right into our al qaeda's hands to create that instability? >> it's not playing into al qaeda's hands yet. and i think that the -- there has been some progress back into a political dialogue here in the last couple of weeks that i think is back on the right track. so it's -- i give you a cautious optimistic view of. this but it's very, very cautious at this point. >> regarding syria, do you see them moving over to syri

mystique and there are still thousands of outside foreign forces particularly american soldiers on iraqi soil that are contributing he would say to security i would suggest to the situation of insecurity in my view the best thing that could be done for security is to ensure that the iraqi people themselves are enabled to be responsible for their own security and that cannot be done while their foreign forces in the country. rushes envoy to the u.n. says that the u.s. led coalition in afghanistan shouldn't be pulling out as its job isn't even remotely complete the kind of chicken statement comes as the u.n. security council rolls over the latest developments in the water. and country let's get the latest details from ortiz marie important she's in new york marina why has decided to weigh in on this issue of russia isn't directly taking part in the afghan campaign so why is it telling nato what it should be doing. well simply put the international stabilization force in afghanistan was something that was mandated by the security council and according to international law it is the security

in terms of working with iraqi government are two kinds of problems.first of all at macro level you have difficulties with the iraqi system funding large-scale infrastructure projects. the iraqis don't want to take out loans and is an international legal limitation on what they can do. this makes the process basically you have to get a legislative decision or a law for each project, very cumbersome and it's slowing down the development. we're working with them on that but that's the first constraint. countries need to find models to fund infrastructure development. they're putting about a third of their $100 billion budget into infrastructure, so some of that, large part of the flow to the international community but nonetheless other creative models and other countries have used, there is a real need for that in iraq. at the retail microlevel, operating in iraq is a daily challenge. from visas to finding communications to communicate with your government interlocutor, it's very, very demanding environment but we are but we are a very, very supportive

being driven by an iraqi soldier. so the question is why can't we go see this camp and see the dissidents and he said, no way that's going to happen. it left me wondering why he would refuse to let us see and talk to these people and get the other side of this invasion by the iraqi soldiers. so we didn't get to go. later i learned one reason we were actually told to leave the country is because we asked to go see this camp and what happened to these 36 iranian dissidents. and now we have camp liberty. camp liberty, madam speaker, is the result of the fact that in camp ashraf, the iraqi government is moving these dissidents to another camp called camp liberty. these dissidents are commonly referred to as the m.e.k. and camp liberty, eye roncally, should be symbolic of the name of freedom but it's anything but that. now the iraqi government, having moved these dissidents to camp ashraf to camp liberty, are still oppressing these iranian dissidents. the reality is camp liberty is worse than camp ashraf. former new york m

woman was murdered because somebody starts using terrorist groups she was from iraqis we don't resist and i think that more attention needs to be paid to those for jugular g.'s the woman who was killed in next to. it and why do you think it's and why do you think it's outrageous elaborate on that. well i think in this country today we there is a great deal of targeting of muslims going on and that there's a lot of attacks on muslims in terms of the f.b.i. has been actually sent there informants into muslim communities because for some reason the f.b.i. thinks that muslims are more suspicious they're a minority group they're easier to target us women particularly because they often wear his shop so they dress a little differently and. they're easy targets the issue of the f.b.i. i know that in actually at york city the new york city police department has been sending informants into muslim soon associations and i think this is an outrageous trial ration of civil liberties that we have this alleged entrapment case of the pittsburgh man he says he was a little worried and see me as comme

call for military strike on iran at least at this time point to the example of israel strike on the iraqi reactor which set the iraqi program back so far there was never reconstituted and also the israeli strike on the syrian reactor which set the syrian program back so far that it is yet to be reconstituted so there is something to be said for setting programs back for buying time ok valorie so do you think you're iran is like what the syrians and the iraqis were going to design and the thing is is that i mean if i can ask you if there is a military strike against iran that's open war and there are consequences of that for the region or are a menace and an arms race could ensue after that i mean isn't that another law of unintended consequences that are not being fought about here. yeah i mean the iranian response to any kind of a military attack on its nuclear facilities is very hard to predict but we can we can assume that there will be one some case of metric to a large extent but there will be one and this sort of unpredictable element makes it i would say and as everyone agrees that

for buying time ok valorie so do you think you're iran is like you know what the syrians and the iraqis berkeley exactly i mean the thing is is that i mean dollar if i can ask you if there is a military strike against iran that's open war and there the consequences of that for the region are sorry men's and an arms race could ensue after that i mean isn't that another law of unintended consequences that are not being thought about here. yeah i mean the iranian response to any kind of a military attack on its nuclear facilities is very hard to predict but we can we can assume that there will be one some a symmetrical to a large extent but there will be one and this sort of unpredictable element makes it i would say and everyone agrees that you know an option of last resort i believe that obama was right in his speech at apac to say that the diplomatic options have not been exhausted i think that now coming into this summer we're going to have really crippling sanctions that are going to be put in place on iran and the negotiations that happen during this period are going to happen in tha