. >> a member of the january 6 committee, maryland representative jamie raskin -- jamie raskin gives a look into the investigation about the attack on the capital and talks about evidence of premeditated activity. this is hosted by lee caldwell. it is 30 minutes. host: hello. welcome to washington journal live. thank you so much for joining us. we are talking with the congressman because today is the first week of the january 6 committee hearing. representative jamie raskin is the committee member. we do take questions. tweet us and we will try to ask your questions. this week is the first hearing of a series of hearings at the january 6 committee is holding. what can we expect on thursday during prime time at 8:00? rep. raskin: you will see an introduction of the findings laid out over the course of the month of june. we are going to hear the story of the conspiracy to overturn the 2020 presidential election and block the transfer of power. this is an extraordinary and unprecedented event in our history. you are going to have to go back to the civil war to understand anything like i

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maryland congressman jamie raskin. he was also the lead impeachment manager at trump's second impeachment trial. he has been busy over the last two years thank you so much for joining us tonight, i know it has been a busy one. but it is done. i'm quite sure your democratic colleagues have called you, said it was a great night. but what i really want to know -- have any republicans called you tonight? >> i do not appear to have any texts or emails from republican colleagues, other than liz and adam, i think. >> i want you to think back in time. when you decided to become a lawmaker, did you ever think that there would be a day that there would be a violent attack by americans on our capitol and the president of the united states would do absolutely nothing to stop it? because that's what you laid out for us tonight. >> the whole thing is surreal, if you can rewind to the days before trump was elected in 2016. because none of us ever expected a violent assault on congress in order to seize the presidency and steal a pres

chance. >> joining me now is a member of the january 6th select committee, democratic congressman jamie raskin of maryland. he was the lead impeachment manager during the second impeachment. congressman raskin, welcome back to "meet the press." >> delighted to be with you. >> let's just start with what you believe are the most important takeaways from these hearings this past week? >> donald trump knew the lie was a big lie. they used it also as a big shakedown and rip-off of his supporters to keep money rolling in. usually when a campaign is over and someone has lost, it's very difficult to raise money, but they raised more than $200 million based on that lie. and then there's what i'm calling the big joke. the idea that nobody had noticed that for more than two centuries the vice president somehow has the unilateral power to decide who's going to be the next president. you know, they had invented a new theory with john eastman and their whole sweep that the vice president could step outside of his constitutional role and exercise unilateral extra constitutional authority just to reject the e

>> exactly what jamie raskin said. that concept of consciousness of guilt is something used in courtrooms again around the country every day. sometimes if the circumstances are right and someone flees, that's consciousness of guilt. if someone lies about their whereabouts when there's no reason to lie about your whereabouts, that could be consciousness of guilt. here, if you're seeking the ultimate protection pre pre-emptively with respect to something you and your colleagues have said was merely tourists going to a historic site, that tells you something about their state of mind. it's not proof beyond a reasonable doubt, but added it to list of other evidence, it shows you if it's true that these members of congress were really concerned about their own behave. and thought they might be prosecuted. i think it's also interesting here that some of this stuff that liz cheney and others said, the chairman said last night, they brought it to us and they showed us video and evidence. some of it they just previewed. it's a

that's the jamie raskin argument.emocrats on the committee who are sympathetic to the principle of abolishing the electoral college. they just don't think it's realistic or likely or possible in this context, so they're not pushing for it in the way that he is. >> i want to ask you about something else that axios is reporting just now, which is that james goldstone, the former president of abc news, but i think for the purposes of this, the fact that he's the former show runner for "good morning america" and "nightline," he has joined the committee as an unannounced adviser ahead of this prime time hearing, which obviously is going to rely on some good production techniques. what is that telling you? what do you know about this? >> well, it tells you that they want to put on a heck of a show on thursday night. and i know from talking to a number of members of the january 6th committee that they want to produce a piece of content that's compelling enough that it won't just speak to the people who are already exercised

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. >> tonight, congressman jamie raskin on the big, new things we learned on night one. and what they say about donald trump's consciousness of guilt. >> we weren't finding anything that would be sufficient to change the results in any of the key states. plus, with the incredible focus on to trump militia groups says about what is to come. >> you say that proud boys members increased after the stand back stand by comment? >> exponentially. i would say tripled, probably. >> and the potential for a lot more, eventually. >> and how trump's propaganda network keeps finding new ways to launder a coup. >> sean hannity wrote, in part, key now -- know more crazy people. >> when all in starts right now -- >> good evening from new york, i'm chris hayes. the country still processing the testimony from last night's inaugural primetime hearing of the january 6th committee. we learned a lot last night, which we will take you through this hour. one major takeaway something we have been repeating on the show for more than a year. donald trump attempted a coup. that was the front page ab

thanks so much for joining us, we have such a great interview today with representative jamie raskin of maryland. of course, we are talking to this congressman because today is the first week of the january 6th -- he is a member on that committee. congressman, thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you so much for having me, leigh ann, it's a pleasure to be with you guys. >> first, before we get started, i want to remind the audience that we do take questions. if you have questions, tweeted us at post live and we will try to ask the congressman your questions. congressman, as i just mentioned, this week is the first hearing of a series of hearings that the january six committee is holding. just a big picture, what can we expect on thursday during prime time at 8:00? >> well, i think you will see a comprehensive introduction and overview of the findings that will be laid out over the course of the month of june. we're gonna tell the story of a conspiracy to overturn the 2020 presidential election and block the transfer of power. so this is an extraordinary and unprecedented event

we did a reveal, it was revealed during these hearings that jamie raskin has another motive in all ofe wants to get rid of that outdated relic called the u.s. constitution, that calls for electors to end up picking the president. that's interesting to me because that would mean that liz cheney's father never would have been elected vice president. the electoral college -- >> that's right -- yeah, he wants to eliminate the electoral college, which is about as fundamental to our system of government as it comes. there is no way around this. look, the u.s. constitution has fostered the development of the greatest civilization the world has ever known. for reasons that escape, styled, and dismay me, the modern democratic party wants to throw it under the bus, throw it under the bus with statements like that he is amazing. they want to throw it under the bus by denigrating the supreme court of the united states and by packing the court so they can turn it into a political football. and sean, the thing is, without the supreme court being an independent arbiter of what the law is, there is n

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committee member jamie raskin joins me on that. and then senator chris murphy, on a big step forward for gun safety. >> this is the most significant anti gun violence bill that congress has voted on in 30 years. >> all in starts now. >> good evening from new york, i am chris hayes. the story of the january six committee hearing so far has been, well, a lot of things. but a story about human beings facing high stakes, ethical task. very high stakes test. and how they respond to being squeezed, and pressured by the most powerful man on earth. we saw that on stark display yesterday. we saw her testimony from three republicans who hold key positions of power in their home state. those three men, all conservatives, all -- voted for donald trump, resisted pressure from the ex president and his allies to help overturn the 2020 election. some of the most compelling testimony came from a man named rusty bowers who is the sitting arizona speaker of the house. arizona, of course one of the few states that decided the election going for joe bi

joining us now is democratic congressman jamie raskin of maryland, a member of the house select committee investigating the january 6th attack on the capitol. he served as lead impeachment manager in the second impeachment trial of donald trump. thank you very much for joining us tonight. it seemed to me the speed of the cipollone subpoena, the day after that testimony yesterday -- seems to indicate that this was a plan, that you would get this testimony were passed cipollone's in the thick of it, all the way through the testimony, which clearly justifies the subpoena sent today. >> pat cipollone is a material witness. he has a huge volume of relevant evidence. and he was there at every level of each of these assaults on democracy and the rule of law. so, he would know a lot about the presidents attempt to stage a mini coup at the department of justice. he may know something about the counterfeit elector plot. he may know something about the -- trump's attempts to shake down different election officials, like secretary of state raffensperger. he certainly knows about the effort to force m

i'll tell you jamie raskin selectively video. if anyone is persisting in telling a big lie it's members of the j.6 committee and they have to bring in a producer. that's why they are not going to let you hear -- that's why they deleted the tweet from their star witness from tonight. and what did he say back then? he said the proud boys were organizing together? how many police were there on the steps of the capitol? i count one. this is a deliberate act. he wasn't talking about the people who came in. he said someone in authority left the door open and the mob walked in. that's their witness tonight. they deleted that text. this is an illegitimate committee and eight legitimacy on display meant to that's what happens informer soviet union and venezuela when tyrants and authoritarians have a little bit power. i yield back. mr. perry: i thank the gentleman from from arizona. i yield to the gentleman from texas. senator nelson: -- >> madam speaker, listen to these words. sense of desperation and disappointment may lead to more of an

host: congressman jamie raskin on "meet the press" yesterday. former president trump was at the state and freedom conference in nashville. here is what he had to say about the former vice president after the january 6 committee held their third public hearing the day before. [video clip] >> one guy got up and said that he heard me calling mike pence a wimp. honestly, i am the president of the united states. how many people listen to me? i don't even know who these people are. but i never called mike pence a wimp. i never called him a wimp. mike pence had a chance to be great. he had the chance to be frankly historic. but just like bill barr and the rest of these weak people, mike, and i say it sadly because i like him, but mike did not have the courage to act. bill barr was afraid of certain things and you know what they were. please don't impeach me, don't impeach me, bill barr. what's wrong with being impeached? i got impeached twice. i don't want to be impeached. the election was perfect. it was so good. the election was perfect. the democrat

>> think janie rask and trent jamie raskin he sat led the second impeachment of donald trump related to january 6. his involvement here. adam schiff led the first impeachment donalde trump. these two have a long history of pursuing i think lofgren is another one multiple impeachments through the career including the nixon impeachment as a staffer. she has seen the whole gamut of high profile investigations like this. >> jamie raskin is written inha his book he is furious with earliest leaks that came out ofo that group and tried to shut down the leaks. t he has been just the opposite with this committee there been regular leaks of information who is testifying, some of the information they are gathering in this committee. you think that has been part of a strategy?ha >> somewhat. think it's hard to tell for this investigation is massive. more than 1000 witnesses we still cannot identify where the intuit or 50 of them. some of that is the witnesses themselvesth the committee declaring on people watching who is coming into the building. the leaks that have come out again but don't nece

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of the united states. >> it's been almost a year and a half since maryland emerati congressman jamie raskinthe second impeachment trial of donald trump for inciting the insurrection. congressman raskin is now a key member of the january 6th committee, which is kicking off its public hearings 24 hours for now. congressman raskin, thank you for making time to join us tonight. i really appreciate it. >> thank you, chris. my pleasure. >> let me start with the polling context from this. i mean, look, again -- we have talked about this. i worked in a business that work is the new cycle business, the attention business. it's hard be keep people focused on things. lots happens in our world. but if you look at polling from quinnipiac, back in august 2021 you say, like, should it never be forgotten, january 6th? or is it time to move on? it was sort of a forced choice. what you see is we are getting closer to 50-50 on, should never be forgotten versus, it's time to move on. how does that inform what your committee is doing with these public hearings? >> well, people have come to understand that this

that much authority, to overturn an election result. >> joining us now is democratic congressman jamie raskin, a member of the house select committee investigating the january 6th attack on the and capitol he served as lead impeachment manager in the second impeachment trial of donald trump. congressman raskin thank you very much for joining us tonight. we really appreciate it. i want to begin with what the washington post has breaking news tonight. and that is, they are reporting that you are considering how to deal with these revelations about clarence thomas's wife, including this latest revelation that she was in contact with john eastman. that the committee is considering whether to include material about that in the public hearings you are having. what can you tell us about the committee's approach to this evidence about clarence thomas's wife? >> not much, lawrence. we are not commenting on specific witnesses and specific investigative lines. i will say that we are committed to getting all of the facts related to everything that happened, and delivering them to the people. i just saw t

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fascinating interview there with jamie raskin, chris. and specifically let's just go back to the beginning of what he was talking about, this email where kenneth chesebro is talking about how the potential wild chaos, the violence of january 6th might actually pressure the supreme court to ask. it was so interesting to hear raskin say that it doesn't prove violence was a strategic instrument, but it does suggest that there was that kind of maneuvering within trump's circles. what did you think of that? >> well, i think the emails are fascinating. first of all, the email from john eastman to chesebro saying he and john quite rightly was pressing congressman raskin about it, that there seemed to be some back channel because he's talking about a big fight inside the supreme court and chesebro writes back and says well, maybe they would rule on this would be a challenge to the wisconsin results if they were worried and this is all prospective, before january 6th, if they were worried about violence on january 6th. so it does seem, the congre

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congressman jamie raskin is a member of the select committee.ailed testimony this week with a trump department of justice official saying trump directly told the doj to just say the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressmen. pretty clear what direction you're going here. >> well, we saw a series of successive shakedowns of the election officials, of secretaries of state like brad raffensperger in georgia, a state legislative officials and we saw lot of heroes, people who hung tough like shaye moss and weren't willing to be detered from doing their public duties. and from the department of justice, those were trump's own appointees telling him they could not do what he was asking them to do. they can't claim there was fraud and corruption in the election when there wasn't. all of it is zeroing in on vice president mike pence to get him to betray his constitutional oath to step outside of his role and then to unilaterally reject electoral college votes, so donald trump's "friends" in the house could simply vote h

host: jamie raskin has written in his book leading up to the impeachment that he was furious that some of the earliest leaks that came out of that group and tried to shut down the leaks, but it has been just the opposite with this committee. there has been regular information on who is testifying , the information they are gathering in this committee. do you think that has been part of a strategy at guest: the junior six committee? guest:i think it is hard to tell. more than 1000 witnesses. we still can identify more than maybe 250 of them. some of those are the witnesses themselves or the committee declaring who they subpoenaed, who is being deposed, and people watching who is coming into the building. the leaks that have come out, we again don't necessarily know the sources of a lot of them. sometimes, it could be from the committee, it could be from the witnesses themselves or their attorneys. different motivations are involved. i think what we have seen is like the text messages from mark meadows, the former chief of staff, that has been a consistent source of a drip of leaks. that

we're joined now by jamie raskin of maryland. thank you for joining us.et to tomorrow's hearing in just a moment, but first do you believe this video put out by your committee proves this was indeed a reconnaissance tour? >> one video doesn't prove anything. but there's video of the same individual on that tour marching with the maga crowd bantering back and forth with a gentleman who had turned his american flag into a weapon, about how this was going to be used on someone special. and so there are a lot of questions about it, and all we asked congressman loudermilk was to do what hundreds and hundreds of other people have done, which is come and talk to the committee about what he knows. >> so far he refuses to do so. americans as you know will hear tomorrow from key members of former vice president mike pence's inner circle including greg jacob and his informal advisor michael luting. what information can they provide on the potential danger this created for the former vice president? >> wolf, you've seen about the big lie, donald trump's ludicrous cla

democratic congressman jamie ra raskin. based on what you just heard, is that a compromise you would vote on? >> well, we would certainly vote on it and work on it. you know, america is suffering a massacre pretty much every day now. there's been more massacres than days in 2022. so the house has been pushing for far more sweeping action for universal violent criminal backgrounds. >> this is a baby step you would vote yes on?

ripped out of his truck and beaten to death but jamie raskin wasn't bothered about this at all. was worried about was the rioters. >> people sense that justice was not done in the verdict that came down in the state criminal court, and i would just hope that president bush doesn't anticipate or encourage a backlash against the rioting which followed the verdict. >> tucker: el, reginald denning. what did he do wrong? he was hauling a load of cinder blocks and they beat him, brain damage. that's cool. bennie thompson, chairman of the january 6th committee, decided he couldn't condemn rioting. instead he was worried about injustices against black officials in los angeles at the time. the injustice was happening on the streets of l.a. as the city was torched and race riots but he couldn't denounce it. a chairman of cpac joins us tonight, thank you so much for coming on. it's a little much for this very thing, precisely the same people that have no problem with real political violence, grandstanding and hyperventilating about what happened on january 6th. why does no one point this o

he is maryland democratic representative jamie raskin. thank you for joining us. you think the committee accomplished with last night's hearing. >> the whole plot of the insurrection was a big lie. including attorney general william barr, the white house counsel, all of them said this was nonsense. and yet he proceeded anyway and engaged in a seven part plan to try to strip joe biden of his lawful majority. he tried to usurp the will of the american people and replace the will of a sitting president that wanted to seize the presidency and become an autocrat. ayrov theeo thi st nhthat the way inhich e cause, and there were domestic violent extremist groups that came together to overthrow the election and to engage in insurrection violence. >> what do you say to republicans that are saying that the committee used selectively edited videos, that it was mainly theatrical and that you really didn't prove anything with regard to president trump directing what happened at the capitol. >> they've been over it with a fine tooth comb and they can't come back and challenge a

along with january 6th investigators congressman jamie raskin joining us live. a lot to get to. stay with us. >> did you discuss this draft letter with the president of the united states? >> executive privilege. again, just restated for the abundance of caution. >> if you look again at the draft letter, in the first paragraph, second sentence, it says the department will update you as we are able on investigatory process, but at this time, we have identified significant concerns that may have impacted the outcome of the election in multiple states, including the state of georgia. isn't that in fact contrary to what attorney general barr had said about december 21, 2020? said about december 21, 2020 >>> something big happened today, before the january 6th hearing got started. something involving the person who ended up being kind of at the center of today's hearing alongside president trump. we're going to get some help now from a reporter who knows the story inside out and from a former u.s. attorney who knows how these things work but let's reset before we do that with some of

a compelling presentation. >> if anyone can match the cast of law and order it is congressman jamie raskin. it will be a big night next thursday. barb mcwade, appreciate your analysis more than ever. >> thank you, mehdi. >>> a much needed and very positive change at the white house. stay with us. positive change at the white house. stay with us do you have a life insurance policy you no longer need? now you can sell your policy - even a term policy - for an immediate cash payment. we thought we had planned carefully for our retirement. but we quickly realized we needed a way to supplement our income. if you have $100,000 or more of life insurance, you may qualify to sell your policy. don't cancel or let your policy lapse without finding out what it's worth. visit coventrydirect.com to find out if your policy qualifies. or call the number on your screen. coventry direct, redefining insurance. >>> do you remember this photo? donald trump with a very white class of white house interns. it's a photo that went viral, especially when it was compared to this photo of president obama and his last

and but jamie raskin wasn'tt bothered by any of this at all. wasn't bothered about this at all. he was worried about was the rioters people's sense that justice was not done in the verdict that came down in a state criminal court and you know, i would just hope that president bush doesn't anticipate or encourage a backlash against the rioting which followed the verdict. yeah, reginald denny, what if reginald denny was haulingng a load cinder blocks the wrong neighborhood and he had the wrong skin colornder? beat they beat him almost even brain damage. but that's cool.ain da that samemage. year the chairmaf the january 6th committee today that would be bennie thompson decided he couldn't condemn rioting. instead, he said he was worried about injustices against black officials in los angeles at the time. well, the injustice was a happening on the streets of l.a. as the city was torched and race riots in progress. he couldn't denouncet that slap as the chairman of cpac, he joinsf. thanks so much for coming on . so it's it's a little much for the very same the precisely the same peo

i guess we lost congressman jamie raskin.is a story that grabbed a lot of people's attention when she testified to it yesterday and they have heard testimony previously from mr. engel who was a secret service ent and havethe testimony from mr. areno as she cited as having told her the story from inside the presidential suv. >> exactly. from my understanding and i'm not sure if i have all the names correct but mr. engel the secret service agent who is there when it was being recounted what went on inside the suv. and he certainly did not say anything and was there. i think we know what is happening here and it's probably happening with pat cipollone too. people are concerned, secret service members are concerned about testifying about how the president acted in a private moment and they will somehow be undermining the alliance that the president will have around secret service members just like pat cipollone but as others have said, we understand that and we understand wanting to protect the institutions whether it secret serv

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we're joined by a member of the january 6th select committee, congressman jamie raskin, democrat of maryland. thank you so much for joining us, congressman. so one of the most stunning revelations today in this testimony from, again, conservative trump supporting white house aide cassidy hutchinson, i think that point can't be made enough. >> chief aide to mark meadows. >> exactly, to mark meadows, is that she overheard trump in the tent at the site of the rally, the quote/unquote stop the steal rally january 6th, saying that he didn't -- specific quote, i don't f'ing care they have weapons. they're not here to hurt me. talking about all of the individuals in the crowd who had weapons and we heard testimony today that cassidy hutchinson had been told by secret service and others that those weapons included ar-15s and knives, et cetera. does that establish criminal intent? is that a smoking gun? >> you have identified a central moment because it's at that moment that we realized and we were able to show that donald trump knew that there were members of the crowd who were violent. armed, certa

. >> of course, that was congressman jamie raskin of maryland from the committee.g the house select committee's investigation into the january 6th attack on the capitol. they will make their case to the public in prime time this thursday. former u.s. attorney barbara mcquade. congresswoman liz cheney tweeting moments ago this is a moral test for the republican party, she writes, a test she says too many in her party are failing. she and jamie raskin and others are saying this hearing has to show people why this is so important. >> it's a poignant tweet from liz cheney, who has really weathered so much backlash within our party to take this stance. she's saying this is about democracy. this is about the american experiment and whether or not we want our democracy to fall apart or whether or not we we want our democracy to fall apart or look at what happened on january 6th and be caught cautioned by it and learn from it and understand what happened. the biggest challenge for lawmakers here as they talk about these huge ideas of american democracy and sort of the expe

congressman jamie raskin from the state of maryland, thank you. >>> coming up, we'll have more of what we heard from the former president's inner circle, right there on the screen right now, you're looking at the first daughter, and senior adviser, ivanka trump, and you know who she believed? bill barr, not her father. and why all of this matters when the "the 11th hour" continues. sn the "the 11th hour" continues. >>> we told the president in no uncertain terms that i did not see evidence of fraud. and that would have affected the outcome of the election. and frankly, a year and a half later i haven't seen anything to change my mind on that. >> what was your perspective about the election and when attorney general barr made that statement. >> it affected my perspective. i respected attorney general barr so i accepted what he was saying. >> some of the most powerful elements of tonight's committee presentation come from those very people. the former president's most loyal allies including the attorney general and his daughter. with us tonight, msnbc political contributor matthew dowd,

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and in nature, again, as jamie raskin and others, and liz cheney have articulated, the nature of theault on the most basic foundation of our democratic order. >> yes, i mean this attack alone was incredibly damaging to our country, incredibly dangerous to our country. and for some members of congress to, sort of, shrug it off as if it was no big deal, let's get back to work. i think we all need to have a reckoning about that. even beyond, that this indictment shows us that the justice department understands that this isn't just about collecting convictions and saying, look, we've prosecuted 800 people. it is about holding people accountable for what they did, and trying to deter people from doing it again. so, bringing these more serious charges, i think, speaks to the seriousness of the harm. >> all right, barbara mcquade, thank you very, very much, those public hearings as i just mentioned, are finally, here starting next week the january 6th will reveal to the nation with their investigation uncovered. a central question i have is, whether they can show that donald trump committed

train leaving the station, and everybody was trying to hop on it at that point. >> congressman jamie raskin of the january 6th investigation, thank you for making time tonight we appreciate it. good point we heard from congressman raskin, he and stephanie murphy, they are going to be working together, co-helping one of the forthcoming hearings. more tonight, our coverage of the january 6th hearings continues in just a moment. stay with us. >> donald trump did not just want the justice department investigated, he wanted them to help legitimize his lies. to basically call the election corrupt. corrupt. who said only this is good? and this is bad? i'm doing it my way. meet plenity. an fda -cleared clinically proven weight management aid for adults with a bmi of 25-40 when combined with diet and exercise. plenity is not a drug - it's made from naturally derived building blocks and helps you feel fuller and eat less. it is a prescription only treatment and is not for pregnant women or people allergic to its ingredients. talk to your doctor or visit myplenity.com to learn more. only at vanguard y

maryland democrat jamie raskin says the committee found proof that the breach was planned and that evidence will be laid out over the next month. >> the idea that all of this was just a rowdy demonstration that spontaneously got a little bit out of control is absurd. you don't almost knock over the u.s. government by accident. >> reporter: so the house selectly committee has completed over a thousand interviews and more than 140,000 documents. >>> streaming on cbs news bay area, where you can see it and where an even larger display is planned. >>> then a look back at the early days of the aids crisis and what san francisco did that caught the attention none other than dr. anthony fauci. >>> today several sections of the aids memorial quilt were draped from near san francisco. this marks 35 years since the quilt's first appearance at city hall. back in 1987 the then mayor used it to recognize the individual lives lost to the pandemic. over the years it symbolizes lo. it's become a colorful symbol of the lives we lost, people we have loved and hope for the future. >> 3,000 of these panels wil

things that congressman jamie raskin has said will blow the lid off of the congress.re's some important things that are to come, i also think it sounds, like from reporting, that they are using video and text message and other kinds of things to present kind of a multi media presentation understanding that the public has a short attention span, and only an appetite for small doses, we've all been ruined by watching law in order for all these years, it sounds like they understand that they need to make a compelling presentation. >> if anyone can match the cast of law and order, it's congressman jamie raskin. a big night tomorrow, barbara mcquade, former u.s. attorney for the eatern -- former appreciate your analysis as ever, thank you. >> thank you, mehdi,. >> still, ahead one last story to get to about a much-needed in very positive change of the white house, stay with us. allergies don't have to be scary. spraying flonase daily stops your body from overreacting to allergens all season long. psst! psst! flonase all good. xfinity mobile runs on america's most reliable

. >> joining me now, a member of the january 6th select committee, congressman jamie raskin of maryland. thank you for being here. i think this hearing was as promised, it was as dramatic as promised. but i want to walk through a couple things. one of the things that this made me want to -- one of the people, this hearing made me want to hear from and liz cheney has said it over and over, is pat cipollone. he is someone who seemed to be at the center of much of this, seemed to be in the room along with ms. hutchinson for much of this. and also on the right side of history here in saying do not do any of this. what is the progress of the committee of getting pat cipollone to testify? >> well, the committee's obviously very interested in hearing from mr. cipollone, and i can't make any report about the details of any negotiations that may or may not be taking place. but i will say that today was indeed a huge breakthrough in terms of our understanding of events because cassidy hutchinson, who displayed a lot of courage, a lot of character coming before the committee today, demolished any