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>> jared kushner went to harvard. i did not. is it possible he did not know russia was a thing or going to be a thing and he accepted a meeting with a russian banker? >> during this transition period, jared was very much -- donald trump was elected and didn't have like a shadow cabinet full of foreign policy think tanks and kind of preparing the way, he had jared kushner basically do everything, so it wasn't really a surprise that he bhet t-- met with the russian ambassador, that is something something that often happens. >> there were certainly a lots of questions about what the relationship was between the trump campaign an russia at this time so the meeting was going to be notable regardless and the fact it was found out made it even more notable. it just adds again, we keep saying this over an over again adds smoke to already very toxic atmosphere. >> if anyone thinks this coverage is intrusive, jared kushner is now a public servant and we are all as i always say about government we are both customers and the bosses at this
>> jared kushner went to harvard. i did not. is it possible he did not know russia was a thing or going to be a thing and he accepted a meeting with a russian banker? >> during this transition period, jared was very much -- donald trump was elected and didn't have like a shadow cabinet full of foreign policy think tanks and kind of preparing the way, he had jared kushner basically do everything, so it wasn't really a surprise that he bhet t-- met with the russian ambassador, that is...
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its leader, jared kushner.adline tonight is that he will appear before the senate intelligence committee as part of that committee's investigation into russia that comes with the discovery that rushner, who met with russia's ambassador during the transition period also met with a man named sergei garkov, the head of a state owned russian bank, a bank that was sanctioned by the u.s. after moscow's invasion of crimea. here to talk about that, katy tur remains with us. also joining us, andrew rice who wrote the definitive article on jared kushner. andrew, that's where we'll start. when you meet someone who knows your work knows your subject matter, when they ask, because he is suddenly an important national figure whose fault is not that he has no experience governing, who is jared kushner? >> he is somebody who is fiercely loyal to the president. his ethic even before any this happened was family first. you know, it's what he always said. and i think that means, you know, that he is somebody who is just there to
its leader, jared kushner.adline tonight is that he will appear before the senate intelligence committee as part of that committee's investigation into russia that comes with the discovery that rushner, who met with russia's ambassador during the transition period also met with a man named sergei garkov, the head of a state owned russian bank, a bank that was sanctioned by the u.s. after moscow's invasion of crimea. here to talk about that, katy tur remains with us. also joining us, andrew rice...
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jared kushner very close to the president. the only current white house official being called in for questioning from either committee. >> it's significant. there's no question about it. whatever we learn from this testimony or whatever the intelligence committee learns from this testimony, it may not be made public for us to know or hear about, but it's going to be a big deal in this case. jared kushner is the closest individual to the president to be questioned in this investigation so far. he had multiple meetings that he did not dis close. the question about his business interests, the possibility that he could have been discussing his own company and their future investments and developments with these russian officials, that's a really big deal. it will raise further questions, if not about ties between russia and the trump team, it will raise questions about conflicts of interests in sbrenl with this administration because jared kushner is not the only individual within this administration who has business ties. last we
jared kushner very close to the president. the only current white house official being called in for questioning from either committee. >> it's significant. there's no question about it. whatever we learn from this testimony or whatever the intelligence committee learns from this testimony, it may not be made public for us to know or hear about, but it's going to be a big deal in this case. jared kushner is the closest individual to the president to be questioned in this investigation so...
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did jared kushner know about this? >> we don't know. we don't know if he was knowledgeable of it or what they spoke about. wouldn't you think, david k. johnson, if you're going to do this, right, and you're going to be in the inner circle of the highest levels in government, shouldn't you know all these figures? shouldn't you do your homework about these figures? >> at the absolute most benign interpretation of this, >> jared kushner's behavior is so reckless, so thoughtless. it is inconceivable he has access to the president and secrets in the white house. this is just beyond belief. this bank is a front for russian efforts to undermine other countries' economics. it had a nest of spies in it, as michael just pointed out, so kushner's behavior here is beyond belief, moronic, even if you assume benign. this is further evidence that there are questions about whether the president of the united states is loyal to the united states or has divided loyalties in all of his actions. >> yeah. matthew, you know russia. you know russia well. are
did jared kushner know about this? >> we don't know. we don't know if he was knowledgeable of it or what they spoke about. wouldn't you think, david k. johnson, if you're going to do this, right, and you're going to be in the inner circle of the highest levels in government, shouldn't you know all these figures? shouldn't you do your homework about these figures? >> at the absolute most benign interpretation of this, >> jared kushner's behavior is so reckless, so thoughtless....
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>> chairman nunes, i have a question about jared. yes, members of the congress may not need to be cleared, but to get access to a skiff, i believe that requires some clearing by the intelligence committee. it creates an impression that chairman nunes came over here, and with some agreement with this white house, was able to carry out this meeting, and then make the announcement he did, and it was perceived he was trying to be helpful to this president. so it appears that there was some acceptance of this pross of chairman nunes making it not just an investigative action but a public one. >> we asked him to undertake our review, so it's partly at our request they're looking into this. number two, based on the public comments that he made to this organization, he has said to me on the record that he did not meet with white house staff. again, i think you're trying to make something that he is himself, from what i've read, not actually been the case. >> he has access to a skiff and that should be carried out. >> i will be glad to look a
>> chairman nunes, i have a question about jared. yes, members of the congress may not need to be cleared, but to get access to a skiff, i believe that requires some clearing by the intelligence committee. it creates an impression that chairman nunes came over here, and with some agreement with this white house, was able to carry out this meeting, and then make the announcement he did, and it was perceived he was trying to be helpful to this president. so it appears that there was some...
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. >> hours after trump advisor jared kushner offering to testify. our coverage begins with manu raju on capitol hill. >> reporter: good morning, the partisans stand up on the house intelligence committee has intensified. as devin nunes, made the surprising revelation yesterday saying he met with a source on white house grounds to discuss information pertaining to the incidental collection of information regarding president trump's associates during the time of the transition with foreign officials. this came as the house intelligence committee has been investigating any trump ties with russian officials and democrats were outraged by his move to brief the president of the united states on this issue and now the revelation that some discussions happened on white house grounds has led some democrats including adam schiff the top democrat on the committee to call on nunes to recuse himself. nunes is suggesting he's not going anywhere telling wolf blitzer this is common. >> -- needed a place i could finally go because i knew what i was looking for and c
. >> hours after trump advisor jared kushner offering to testify. our coverage begins with manu raju on capitol hill. >> reporter: good morning, the partisans stand up on the house intelligence committee has intensified. as devin nunes, made the surprising revelation yesterday saying he met with a source on white house grounds to discuss information pertaining to the incidental collection of information regarding president trump's associates during the time of the transition with...
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and obviously jared kushner. >> the other jared. >> the second jared.re the first jared. >> thank you. >> the reporting has been that the president was a little displeased that in the middle of the first big legislative fight which he had, which was health care, jared kirchner, ivanka went with her children ski in aspen. and i must say when the reports came out and the pictures were splashed all over the british newspapers, they had a field day with it, i thought i wonder what the folks who worked in previous administrations are thinking. what went through your brain honestly? >> everyone i heard from believes administrations said the same thing which are, are you kidding? exactly the way you teed it up, chris. and i think one of the things that's happening here, kind of fa fallout from here is the idea that the white house is going to listen closely to the strategies of paul ryan moving forward seems like a deanyoiminishing probability. >>> coming up, the white house is pushing ahead with its agenda pledging to work with moderate democrats but will dem
and obviously jared kushner. >> the other jared. >> the second jared.re the first jared. >> thank you. >> the reporting has been that the president was a little displeased that in the middle of the first big legislative fight which he had, which was health care, jared kirchner, ivanka went with her children ski in aspen. and i must say when the reports came out and the pictures were splashed all over the british newspapers, they had a field day with it, i thought i...
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jared kushner's ties to russia.rump's son-in-law and senior adviser will meet with senators investigating the trump campaign's connections to putin's government. let's discuss now. alexander vershbow, former u.s. ambassador to russia and former nato deputy secretary-general. so good to have you on, mr. ambassador. thank you so much. >> good to be here. >> i'm going to ask this question and in the question i want to explain to you and our viewer what's going on. there's more questions now about revelations about trump, the russia ties today, jared kushner. he's the president's son-in-law, senior adviser, previously undisclosed meeting with sergei gorkov. sergei gorkov is the head of a russian bank that is under u.s. sanctions and has close ties to vladimir putin. the meeting was set up at the request of russia's ambassador sergei kislyak, who we've heard so much about. does that raise a red flag for you? >> well, it raises some questions. the first question of course is why do we keep finding out about these meetings
jared kushner's ties to russia.rump's son-in-law and senior adviser will meet with senators investigating the trump campaign's connections to putin's government. let's discuss now. alexander vershbow, former u.s. ambassador to russia and former nato deputy secretary-general. so good to have you on, mr. ambassador. thank you so much. >> good to be here. >> i'm going to ask this question and in the question i want to explain to you and our viewer what's going on. there's more...
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he's the one that met with jared. the senate intelligence committee, that i shall first public hearing on this issue will be on thursday. so we will get one public hearing this week. but, by god, every news day it's like another. who knows what we will have reported by then. joining us is congressman jim hines of connecticut. congressman, he's nice to have you with us tonight. i imagine it frustrates you tomp somebody like me say the house sbeej committee seems to be blowing up. >> that is not. weir in a bizarre moment where not only is the investigation frozen with hearings being canceled but the committee is frozen. we ordinarily have a meeting at 5:00 p.m. on the day we all return which was today to go turnover previous week's activities and that was canceled. we had a thursday meeting to talk about something totally different, i think, than russia, and that was canceled. so we are in suspended animation right now. >> you received no information in terms of what chairman nunez was talking about last week about thes
he's the one that met with jared. the senate intelligence committee, that i shall first public hearing on this issue will be on thursday. so we will get one public hearing this week. but, by god, every news day it's like another. who knows what we will have reported by then. joining us is congressman jim hines of connecticut. congressman, he's nice to have you with us tonight. i imagine it frustrates you tomp somebody like me say the house sbeej committee seems to be blowing up. >> that...
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we have jared kushner who's his son-in-law. and we have -- he's going to get so mad at me but i'm glad i forgot his name. >> carter page? >> no. >> paul manafort. >> no. the -- oh, my god. this is so great. >> it's okay. >> roger stone. >> that was sarcasm. >> but still, look, this is an amazing time right now in history, that we're seeing this 60 days into a presidency. >> interesting. david, i have to ask you about this meeting with kushner and the russian bank. reuters has extensive reporting on this. what can you tell us about it? >> well, it's -- the problem here probably is not disclosing it. it might be seen as a routine meeting. you know, but it raises suspicions. why didn't they talk about this earlier? and this is a bank specifically sanctioned by the obama administration. these are the kinds of sanctions that russia wants removed. and this all plays into this theory of coordination or collusion. and to be fair to the trump administration, you're right. they will all testify. there is no sort of definitive proof yet t
we have jared kushner who's his son-in-law. and we have -- he's going to get so mad at me but i'm glad i forgot his name. >> carter page? >> no. >> paul manafort. >> no. the -- oh, my god. this is so great. >> it's okay. >> roger stone. >> that was sarcasm. >> but still, look, this is an amazing time right now in history, that we're seeing this 60 days into a presidency. >> interesting. david, i have to ask you about this meeting with...
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and jared kushner, the same. the questions that been coming over after the disclosure that he met with the chairman of that state-run russian bank back in december, at the height of the transition. he will be talking with senators about that. the senators are pleased that jared kushner has made that offer. and there's the issue of general michael flynn. it was talked about at the press conference. however, i did talk to general flynn's lawyers. the lawyers have talked to the senate intelligence committee. michael flynn has not spoken to the committee. all of the plans moving full steam ahead. but at the same time, senators warner and burr, they will be working hand in hand on really a bipartisan basis. >> the circumstance in which you wouldn't share with mr. warner your sources on this investigation? >> he usually knows my sources before i do. >> i got his cell phone, which is hears from me more than he likes. >> reporter: there is a big change in tone from the partisan finger-pointing we've seen on the house sid
and jared kushner, the same. the questions that been coming over after the disclosure that he met with the chairman of that state-run russian bank back in december, at the height of the transition. he will be talking with senators about that. the senators are pleased that jared kushner has made that offer. and there's the issue of general michael flynn. it was talked about at the press conference. however, i did talk to general flynn's lawyers. the lawyers have talked to the senate intelligence...
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jared kushner. why would jared kushner be meeting with a russian banker with ties to vladimir putin a couple of weeks before the president assumes his role in the white house. >> i am not familiar with any business ties that jared kushner might have through russian banks. but we shouldn't be surprised that those ties do exist. i understand he's volunteered to speak to a senate committee. let them dig into this. if it gets to be the foundation of evidence they would like to go into it further and ask him to come forward under oath, i think that's appropriate. but i think the democrats should be careful because if they want to big into these things, we have an obligation to dig much deeper and see why did bill clinton meet with loretta lynch on the tar pack. >> why would you have an obligation to deep much deeper into a previous administration than you do to the current sitting president? >> because there is indication of significant crimes having been committed and we have a previous attorney general
jared kushner. why would jared kushner be meeting with a russian banker with ties to vladimir putin a couple of weeks before the president assumes his role in the white house. >> i am not familiar with any business ties that jared kushner might have through russian banks. but we shouldn't be surprised that those ties do exist. i understand he's volunteered to speak to a senate committee. let them dig into this. if it gets to be the foundation of evidence they would like to go into it...
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>> i have been told by someone who's familiar with what transpired, jared kushner is going to say allbassador kislayak and ambassadand get a backdoor deal with president trump and have a backdoor relationship. >> gorkov is the head of this russian bank who's got ties with intelligence officials in russia and it's been reported by the "new york times" that kislayak asked kushner to meet with this guy, and there are conflicts reports that it was just in jared kushner's role who met with many diplomats. the russian bank said he was meeting with him as a member of the kushner family, the kushner corporation. >> and this report says it was in jared kushner's role in trying to establish this backdoor to putin, it was not about his business. the question that i asked is why would jared kushner meet with somebody affiliated with a bank at a high level who was -- that was sanctioned by the united states? why would anybody in a trump transition do that? i mean it's a google clerk away to try and figure out who this person was. and i was told by this source, and this is a quote, in a more organi
>> i have been told by someone who's familiar with what transpired, jared kushner is going to say allbassador kislayak and ambassadand get a backdoor deal with president trump and have a backdoor relationship. >> gorkov is the head of this russian bank who's got ties with intelligence officials in russia and it's been reported by the "new york times" that kislayak asked kushner to meet with this guy, and there are conflicts reports that it was just in jared kushner's role...
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was jared kushner's meeting about the transition or his private real estate? >> and major changes to american policy on climate change being rolled out todayme. details on the president's next executive order. another rejection of obama era policy. >> trying to wipe out entirely the obama administration policy. >> two top democrats say the time has come for devin nunes to recuse himself from the investigation into contacts between russia and the trump campaign. they come after a serious of revelation thr revelation that nunes was on the white house grounds before his aid aides were picked up by intelligence. >> nancy pelosi and adam schiff saying he needs to step down. and pelosi says he has a serious responsibility to the congress and to the country. here is what schiff said to cnn. >> it would be incredibly difficult to -- there's no legitimate reason to have gone to the white house at night to obtain information and then later share it with the white house instead of sharing it with his own committee. >> all this came just hours after trump advisor and firs
was jared kushner's meeting about the transition or his private real estate? >> and major changes to american policy on climate change being rolled out todayme. details on the president's next executive order. another rejection of obama era policy. >> trying to wipe out entirely the obama administration policy. >> two top democrats say the time has come for devin nunes to recuse himself from the investigation into contacts between russia and the trump campaign. they come after...
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there any reason why the house would not be opposed to jared kushner testifying under oath. >> jared volunteered to do that. they haven't even confirmed. talking about that would be silly. >> would it be a dangerous precedent in having a senior aide to the president going up. ordinarily we see the white house invoking executive privilege, why haven't you done that in this place. >> i think jared did a job during the transition in the campaign where he was a conduit and to -- and that's until we have a state department in function in place for people to go. remember, we had a delay in some of these things. that was his role and he wants to make sure that he's very clear about the role that he played, who he talked to. and that's it. jim. >> is obamacare repeal dead? >> i don't think it's dead. in the sense -- >> it would have to be dead, you need to have democrats working with you. >> why? i don't know if that's true. >> why would they work with you. >> there is a recognition that it is failing. it's dying on its own. it will be dead soon. >> democrats say it's not dying. >> a lot of
there any reason why the house would not be opposed to jared kushner testifying under oath. >> jared volunteered to do that. they haven't even confirmed. talking about that would be silly. >> would it be a dangerous precedent in having a senior aide to the president going up. ordinarily we see the white house invoking executive privilege, why haven't you done that in this place. >> i think jared did a job during the transition in the campaign where he was a conduit and to --...
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jared kushner prepares for his own testimony, likely under oath. intelligence uproar, chairman devin nunez reject calls for him to step aside from his committee's russia investigation amid growing controversy of partisan ranker. i will ask the former cia director, leon panetta, for his take of nunez's access and credibility. >>> regulation roll back. the president signs a sweeping order to undo the obama administration policies to combat climb ate change. will it create jobs as mr. trump claims? >>> and accepting blame. top u.s. commander concedes an air strike likely killed innocent iraqis. did isis deliberately lure coalition forces to attack a location? knowing dozens of civilians would die. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states an around the world. i'm wolf blitzer, you're in "the situation room."an around the world. i'm wolf blitzer, you're in "the situation room."nan around the world. i'm wolf blitzer, you're in "the situation room."dan around the world. i'm wolf blitzer, you're in "the situation room." around the world. i'm wol
jared kushner prepares for his own testimony, likely under oath. intelligence uproar, chairman devin nunez reject calls for him to step aside from his committee's russia investigation amid growing controversy of partisan ranker. i will ask the former cia director, leon panetta, for his take of nunez's access and credibility. >>> regulation roll back. the president signs a sweeping order to undo the obama administration policies to combat climb ate change. will it create jobs as mr....
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as is jared kushner. he is a lot of people.here are a lot of obstacles and challenges in front of him. it's not that every person in the white house can be a part of every project. i wouldn't read anything whatsoever into what steve bannon not being on this particular project -- and, he might be in the background somewhere with some ideas of his own. >> martha: governor mike huckabee on day 67. we are only 67 days and prayed sometimes it feels more than that. good to see you, as always. still to come tonight, a facebook owned messaging app is finding itself at the center of the london terror investigation. as of now, the messages are being hidden from the authorities. should businesses be compelled to share what is on those apps with the authorities? debate straight ahead. plus, after the white house efforts to undo obamacare derailed, president trump says he may turn to democrats to pass future legislation. up next, we have senator rand paul. whether he regrets his decision to stand in president trump's way on this. ♪ >> i am
as is jared kushner. he is a lot of people.here are a lot of obstacles and challenges in front of him. it's not that every person in the white house can be a part of every project. i wouldn't read anything whatsoever into what steve bannon not being on this particular project -- and, he might be in the background somewhere with some ideas of his own. >> martha: governor mike huckabee on day 67. we are only 67 days and prayed sometimes it feels more than that. good to see you, as always....
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confirmed the senators will question president trump's son-in-law, perhaps his most trusted adviser, jared kushner, about meetings kushner had with russian officials, including "the new york times" reports, a russian banker. first, though, let's go to capitol hill. manu raju is there. devon nunes, the house intelligence chair, on white house grounds the day before that major announcement. >> reporter: that's right. he's now confirming this, telling our colleague, jake tapper, in a phone interview that he was, in fact, on white house grounds. what he's actually saying now, john and poppy, is that he was reviewing this in a secure facility on white house grounds, reviewing this information that he revealed publicly the next day, that information that perhaps some communication, something involving the trump transition team were swept up, inadvertently picked up, sdins incidentally in intelligence reports, so he wanted to review this document in a secure facility. now he is telling jake tapper that he was not in communication with any white house staff that d day, he was not in the white hous
confirmed the senators will question president trump's son-in-law, perhaps his most trusted adviser, jared kushner, about meetings kushner had with russian officials, including "the new york times" reports, a russian banker. first, though, let's go to capitol hill. manu raju is there. devon nunes, the house intelligence chair, on white house grounds the day before that major announcement. >> reporter: that's right. he's now confirming this, telling our colleague, jake tapper, in...
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we do not even know it this point, we may letter -- later, what jared kushner owns.t is not just real estate. his brother has a health insurance company called oscar that jared kushner was also holding a stake in that may have been to vested. there are a lot of unknowns. it is something to watch. amy: i want to move onto some of your other writings. i want ask you about one of your recent pieces which was headlined "the the hundreds of officials trump has quietly installed across the government." you describe some of the people that trump administration has hired for positions across the federal government "a trump campaign aide who argues that democrats committed ethnic cleansing in a plot to liquidate the white working class, former reality show contestant whose study of societal collapse inspired him to invent a bow and arrow come survivalist multitool, a pair of affair lobbyists, a lobbyist for defense contractors and evangelists, and lobbyist for the ledger, the silicon valley company with close ties to intelligence agencies -- justin, take us through. >> it int
we do not even know it this point, we may letter -- later, what jared kushner owns.t is not just real estate. his brother has a health insurance company called oscar that jared kushner was also holding a stake in that may have been to vested. there are a lot of unknowns. it is something to watch. amy: i want to move onto some of your other writings. i want ask you about one of your recent pieces which was headlined "the the hundreds of officials trump has quietly installed across the...
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why did he get in to meet with jared kushner?and how did he get the access to meet with somebody so close to the president who was going to have a major role inside the white house. >> apparently the russian ambassador set it up, but did nobody google this? >> they said they didn't discuss business. >> we don't know. >> that's what they did. >> the russian bank says -- >> the question is -- >> if they didn't discuss business, did they discuss sanctions? i can tell you i've lived through a transition, it is not normal to be meeting with the head of a state-run bank of a government where we have an adversarial relationship. >> it was at the request of the ambassador. >> that's not a normal meeting. it was either they were discussing sanctions -- remember what flynn got into trouble with. or they were discussing business and he is trying to further his own interest. there's a lot of questions here that i think deserve answers. >> remember what was going on. it was mid december. remember what was going on in mid december. the obama a
why did he get in to meet with jared kushner?and how did he get the access to meet with somebody so close to the president who was going to have a major role inside the white house. >> apparently the russian ambassador set it up, but did nobody google this? >> they said they didn't discuss business. >> we don't know. >> that's what they did. >> the russian bank says -- >> the question is -- >> if they didn't discuss business, did they discuss sanctions?...
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jared kushner met with this russian banker during the transition.i goshoff is the chairman of veb bank and has deep tied to the russian government and goshoff was appointed to his job by russian president vladimir putin. the white house disclosed this week that jared kushner met with gorkov at the request of sergey kislyak and the white house insists this was all part of kushner's transition duties. nothing of substance was discussed and there was no follow-up, but the bank says its executives met with kushner as part of a road show of business meetings in 2016, disclosing that gorkov met with a number of representatives from the largest banks and business circles in the united states, including the head of kushner companies, jared kushner, so which was it, a transition official's meeting or meeting to discuss private business? the white house not answering a request to clarify. instead insisting all inquiries about the administration's ties to russia are just another distraction. >> if the president puts russian salad dressing on his salad tonight
jared kushner met with this russian banker during the transition.i goshoff is the chairman of veb bank and has deep tied to the russian government and goshoff was appointed to his job by russian president vladimir putin. the white house disclosed this week that jared kushner met with gorkov at the request of sergey kislyak and the white house insists this was all part of kushner's transition duties. nothing of substance was discussed and there was no follow-up, but the bank says its executives...
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this new revelation that jared kushner met with the ambassador.hat doesn't bother me as much as the fact that he met with gorgov, the leader of a bank that is under u.s. sanctions. can you imagine what the outcry would be among republicans on capitol hill had hillary clinton won this election and chelsea clinton met representing the clinton foundation with the head of a bank that was under sanctions. the impeachment proceedings would have started already. >> if i can, the clinton foundation, while secretary clinton met with lots of folks with questionable ties and questionable groups, so to pull on congressman's thread there, what do you think happened between jared and the representative of the bank. >> we don't know. that's why the son-in-law of the president of the united states and a member of the white house staff jared kushner is going to go to a senate intelligence committee and testify. we should -- >> there's -- >> don't dispute that. >> the problem with this whole situation is again the congressman's point unfortunately we keep talking a
this new revelation that jared kushner met with the ambassador.hat doesn't bother me as much as the fact that he met with gorgov, the leader of a bank that is under u.s. sanctions. can you imagine what the outcry would be among republicans on capitol hill had hillary clinton won this election and chelsea clinton met representing the clinton foundation with the head of a bank that was under sanctions. the impeachment proceedings would have started already. >> if i can, the clinton...
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jared, make it quick. >> okay. you can't maintain the pre-existing condition coverage and get rid of the mandate. you have to have -- >> now i'm going to give it to you. >> you have to have healthy people in the risk pool, and that's insurance. >> yes. listen to me, this is a key point -- >> the healthy have to subsidize the ill. that's how insurance works. >> listen to me, buddy, i'm closer to you than you think. >> good to know. >> i am in favor, i am in favor of transparent subsidies by the federal government to those folks who are ill and pre-existing conditions. i want a straight-out spending subsidy. this is a great country, and we need to take care of the ill. i am with you on that point. >> yeah. >> that is not a problem for me at all. >> okay. >> it's a social safety net. i learned it from reagan. just give it to them. just give them the money and then let's get on with the other free market reforms. and the gop should make that clear, but they never seem to make it clear. >> jared, larry, thank you, guys.
jared, make it quick. >> okay. you can't maintain the pre-existing condition coverage and get rid of the mandate. you have to have -- >> now i'm going to give it to you. >> you have to have healthy people in the risk pool, and that's insurance. >> yes. listen to me, this is a key point -- >> the healthy have to subsidize the ill. that's how insurance works. >> listen to me, buddy, i'm closer to you than you think. >> good to know. >> i am in...
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>> two quiestions. >> when the president chose jared kushner reform. obviously, jared kushner had 60 something days and never had a government job. >> when you look at the individuals he's bringing in. one o f the things that that -- again, they may talked or about it later. >> jerry is looking a t the procurement and the technology aspect. if you dealt with the government and recognize how out dated and run modernize it is. >> it is not serving the american people and looking at how we procure technology a and -- when you look at the va in particular and recognize how it handles certain things. by prescription drugs, very well. >> there are certain thing that is may not do as well in terms of how it keeps its records and how it lends its mown. we can look at and find out is there a better way. >> we recognize there are certain things that business would not do in terms of what government had to do because we serve all people. >> there are certainly practices that we can put in place that can help us put in better service to some of these sucre areas.
>> two quiestions. >> when the president chose jared kushner reform. obviously, jared kushner had 60 something days and never had a government job. >> when you look at the individuals he's bringing in. one o f the things that that -- again, they may talked or about it later. >> jerry is looking a t the procurement and the technology aspect. if you dealt with the government and recognize how out dated and run modernize it is. >> it is not serving the american people...
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why did he get in to meet with jared kushner?ow did he get the access to meet with somebody so close to the president who was going to have a major role inside the white hou whi white house. >> the russian ambassador said it up. >> they said they didn't discuss business. >> we don't know. >> that's what they did. >> the russian bank says -- >> the question is -- >> if they didn't discuss business, did they discuss sanctions. it's not normal to meet with the head of a state run bank of a government where we have an adversarial relationship. >> it was at the request of the ambassador. >> that's not a normal meeting. it was either they were discussing sanctions -- remember what flynn got into trouble with. or they were discussing business and he is trying to further his own issue. >> remember what was going on. it was mid december. remember what was going on in mid december. obama administration is trying to figure out what sanctions regime it's going to institute. there's the meeting with flynn where flynn is allegedly talking abou
why did he get in to meet with jared kushner?ow did he get the access to meet with somebody so close to the president who was going to have a major role inside the white hou whi white house. >> the russian ambassador said it up. >> they said they didn't discuss business. >> we don't know. >> that's what they did. >> the russian bank says -- >> the question is -- >> if they didn't discuss business, did they discuss sanctions. it's not normal to meet with...
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. >> let me ask you about jared. there's an understanding that's trying to be worked out between jared and the senate intelligence committee. is that testimony? is that something the committee has requested? does he have something to explain about what he did on behalf of the transition with whom e he met with and only of the meetings he took that are raising questions about russia and folks that he met with outside of diplomatic channels, but have other aspects to their russian business deals. >> throughout the campaign and the transition, jared served as the official primary point of contact with foreign governments and officials until we had state department officials -- that's correct. and so given this role, he volunteered to speak with the committee, but has not received any confirmation regarding a time for a meeting or anything. >> is this going to be a private meeting? >> again, i think based on the questions that surround this, he volunteered to sit down with them and say i'm glad to talk about the role tha
. >> let me ask you about jared. there's an understanding that's trying to be worked out between jared and the senate intelligence committee. is that testimony? is that something the committee has requested? does he have something to explain about what he did on behalf of the transition with whom e he met with and only of the meetings he took that are raising questions about russia and folks that he met with outside of diplomatic channels, but have other aspects to their russian business...
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let me ask you about jared.s an understanding that's trying to be worked out, as we understand it, between jared and the senate intelligence committee. is that testimony? is that something that the committee has requested? is he volunteered? >> yes. >> do they believe he has something to explain to that committee and, more broadly, the american people about what he did on behalf of the transition, who he met with and some of the meetings that he took that are raising questions about russia and folks that he met with that are outside of diplomatic channels but have other aspects to their russian business deals that may -- >> correct. so throughout the campaign and the transition, jared served as the official primary point of contact with foreign government officials until we had state department officials up, once we assumed -- go. [inaudible] >> that's correct. and so given this role, he volunteers to speak with chairman burr's committee but has not received any confirmation regarding a time for a meeting or any
let me ask you about jared.s an understanding that's trying to be worked out, as we understand it, between jared and the senate intelligence committee. is that testimony? is that something that the committee has requested? is he volunteered? >> yes. >> do they believe he has something to explain to that committee and, more broadly, the american people about what he did on behalf of the transition, who he met with and some of the meetings that he took that are raising questions about...
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kushner companies, and at this time jared kushner was still involved in his businesses. white house is saying that jared kushner did not discuss anything related to business with this head of this bank and that their conversation was just innocuous and kind of very general and that they also are saying they did not talk about sanctions. so it's a quite unusual meeting and it's -- it's one that this is the first time that we've seen the white house actually try to get out ahead of something on this because they're saying that he volunteered to talk to the committee and that he wants to be forthcoming and so, you know, while this was not a meeting he disclosed earlier -- >> getting out ahead of it, carole, suggest they were nervous about it? what does it tell you? it is in some ways a break from the norm? >> to meet with this particular bank, yes, it is. i think it's an indication of, you know, them trying to get -- look, jared kushner is probably the most important person in the white house next to the president and his wife, the president's daughter, and it's an indicati
kushner companies, and at this time jared kushner was still involved in his businesses. white house is saying that jared kushner did not discuss anything related to business with this head of this bank and that their conversation was just innocuous and kind of very general and that they also are saying they did not talk about sanctions. so it's a quite unusual meeting and it's -- it's one that this is the first time that we've seen the white house actually try to get out ahead of something on...
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they did put jared there because i think jared kushner is someone a lot of people in tech feel they canh, who's reasonable that has some business background. so i think he's probably the right person for there. we'll see if they actually do anything or whether it's another one of these committees that talks about changing the way government does business and never does, which seems to always happen. >> or could fuel more questions about conflict of interest. i think it will be interesting to watch how these business lead rs advise the president on key domestic issues that also have an impact on their bottom lines. >> yeah. i do think conflict of interest in a broader sense is one of the stenches affecting washington these days. and it does come down to, you know, trump and his family to some extent. i think it's really important as kara said to have somebody like jared, you know, kushner, wlo is very smart working on these things. but you kind of want more of a distancing and delusion from all of the family businesses rather than him running around to every trump hotel and every weekend
they did put jared there because i think jared kushner is someone a lot of people in tech feel they canh, who's reasonable that has some business background. so i think he's probably the right person for there. we'll see if they actually do anything or whether it's another one of these committees that talks about changing the way government does business and never does, which seems to always happen. >> or could fuel more questions about conflict of interest. i think it will be interesting...
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. >> jared kushner, russian banker with ties to vladimir putin. >> have you a direct conflict between what the white house said at that meeting and what the bank is saying. >> roger stone, paul manafort, now jared kushner, people who had unusual number of meetings with russians. >> he wants to make sure about the role he played and who he talked to and that's it. >> announcer: this is new day with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >>> chairman of the house committee said he will not recuse himself from the russian investigation after admitting he secretly met with a source on white house grounds a day before briefing the president on this topic. >> remember, nunes went around the democrats on his own committee to give information to the white house after checking in with ryan and other republicans. it really took away the integrity for the democrats working with the republicans. so now we have how will the white house deal with this. they keep dismissing the russia story as a hoax. now the president is tweeting congress should be focusing on the clintons. all this in light of another m
. >> jared kushner, russian banker with ties to vladimir putin. >> have you a direct conflict between what the white house said at that meeting and what the bank is saying. >> roger stone, paul manafort, now jared kushner, people who had unusual number of meetings with russians. >> he wants to make sure about the role he played and who he talked to and that's it. >> announcer: this is new day with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >>> chairman of the house...
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somebody like jared kushner could let something slip.n team at the time he met with the banker. we don't know if he met with them once or several times because he won't say. the bank says this is part of our traveling road show. again, that's pr. >> people want to dismiss meetings as just proforma. people meet with russian officials all the time. there is nothing wrong with that unless you can show the meeting had some malintent behind it. what questions would you have for kushner? >> did he know the guy's back ground and what was discussed in the meeting? this is what did michael flynn in. >> if he says sanctions came up, but i made no promises. >> you can say that, but why were you meeting with the bank? financial institutions in russia are not just financial institutions. u.s. treasury designated veb. >> you say taking the meeting with the bank alone was a mistake. >> yeah. >> you don't care what happened as a result of the meeting? >> if you absolutely want to do it, or you felt you had to do it, again, be for the cothcomin disclose
somebody like jared kushner could let something slip.n team at the time he met with the banker. we don't know if he met with them once or several times because he won't say. the bank says this is part of our traveling road show. again, that's pr. >> people want to dismiss meetings as just proforma. people meet with russian officials all the time. there is nothing wrong with that unless you can show the meeting had some malintent behind it. what questions would you have for kushner?...
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. >> reporter: the company behind the kay and jared jewelry chain accused of demeaning female employeesaccording to newly released sworn statements, in addition to the central claims of discrimination in pay and promotion, more than 100 ex-employees, also claimed inappropriate behavior by company executives including groping women to exchange sex for career advancement. one former employee saying, an executive called the practice, going to the big stage. >> i was shocked. this man was old enough to be my father. i was afraid. >> reporter: kristin henry went on a company retreat where she says a district manager sexually harassed her. >> he forcibly kissed me. and -- was touching me. >> she claims she reported him. and two dates later was falsely accused of theft and fired. now, a total of 69,000 current and former female employees are members of the class action case that goes back nearly a decade. in a statement the parent company of jared and kay jewelers saying, we have thoroughly investigated the allegations and have concluded they're not substantiated by the facts and certainly do
. >> reporter: the company behind the kay and jared jewelry chain accused of demeaning female employeesaccording to newly released sworn statements, in addition to the central claims of discrimination in pay and promotion, more than 100 ex-employees, also claimed inappropriate behavior by company executives including groping women to exchange sex for career advancement. one former employee saying, an executive called the practice, going to the big stage. >> i was shocked. this man...
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ivanka, who has her own fashion brand, willjoin her husband jared kushner, who is a senior adviser toted influence on president trump has raised questions about possible conflicts of interests. let's cross to our correspondent in washington, gary o'donoghue. those allegations of a conflict of interest, clearly cut no ice with president trump. no, ithink interest, clearly cut no ice with president trump. no, i think he in a sense he has already crossed that rubicon with his son—in—law, jared kushner, ivanka trump we understand won't be paid but be in no doubt that the description, snint to the president sounds lowly. it is not. —— assistant. it means you have the direct ear of the president. she will be within feet of the oval office, she has been present at a lot of the meetings when you look at the photo opportunities with i'm coming to visit the president. she is often there any way, and i think this is perhaps a recognition of the reality, but it is not what was expected from the start of the presidency, we thought she would carry on like with the other children, running the busine
ivanka, who has her own fashion brand, willjoin her husband jared kushner, who is a senior adviser toted influence on president trump has raised questions about possible conflicts of interests. let's cross to our correspondent in washington, gary o'donoghue. those allegations of a conflict of interest, clearly cut no ice with president trump. no, ithink interest, clearly cut no ice with president trump. no, i think he in a sense he has already crossed that rubicon with his son—in—law, jared...
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what does the senate want to hear from jared kushner and is this testimony under oath?m talking to the chairman in a room? >> it's just questions, it's not under oath, they want to know about these meetings, particularly the meeting with the russian bankers that he held. he met with ambassador kislayak in late december and then the ambassador asked him to meet with the russian banker. the bank is bved. he said that nothing of consequence happened and it was just in his role of leading the transition of foreign affairs. then we got a statement from the russian bank, the russian bank said they were doing a road show, there was a lot of talk about kushner needing money for buildings that his family owned and we don't know what went on there. but it's much more than a courtesy call. and the bank is also under u.s. sanction. >> there's that. >> i forgot that detail, it's under u.s. sanction and the guy he met with trains at the u.s. academy that trains all of their security officers. this is, i think looking at some of the conflicts we're seeing here. >> this again goes to q
what does the senate want to hear from jared kushner and is this testimony under oath?m talking to the chairman in a room? >> it's just questions, it's not under oath, they want to know about these meetings, particularly the meeting with the russian bankers that he held. he met with ambassador kislayak in late december and then the ambassador asked him to meet with the russian banker. the bank is bved. he said that nothing of consequence happened and it was just in his role of leading the...
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what do you hope to hear from jared kushner? >> that interview has not considered yet so i'm going to wait and see what the results of it are. i think it is positive that he is willingly coming before the committee and also a positive sign that our investigation is progressing. >> any idea when you might be calling on him? >> you have to ask the chairman that. >> the senator talking about a positive sign to see the president's son in law, a senior adviser at the white house and someone who held meetings with folks tied to moscow coming in front of the senate intelligence meeting. judge gorsuch is another big story on the hill. >> thanks so much. i want to turn over to douglas drinkly and get into a little bit of a deeper discussion. you have a new book out. full heritage. franklin d. roosevelt and the land of america. a lot of interesting stuff in that book and i feel like it's relevant to the day and the moment in history that we are in. you are nodding along. i want to start with the russia investigation. you told "the washing
what do you hope to hear from jared kushner? >> that interview has not considered yet so i'm going to wait and see what the results of it are. i think it is positive that he is willingly coming before the committee and also a positive sign that our investigation is progressing. >> any idea when you might be calling on him? >> you have to ask the chairman that. >> the senator talking about a positive sign to see the president's son in law, a senior adviser at the white...
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why is jared kushner having diplomat meetings with a bank? it makes no sense. the time of the transition, there were still questions about whether the sanctions would hold but an individualback doesn't makes any sense. arguably from the white house's viewpoint he's meeting with the ambassador. they failed to zleez. kickly ak came through the book door of the trump tower. it makes no sense from a diplomacy perspective let alone that russia's coming back with alternate explanation. i late to say it, but just what's he doing against the bank? did he not know all these things and the sec to concerns that were raised by the report which is was there any some discussion about kushner's companies. there's only one jared kushner to the outside world. >> fe he didn't know the that's incredible blim damning. senior advisor to the president. going to play the role of peace in the mooesz. if he didn't know what this bank was, that's a problem. and if he did know, that's a problem. >> right. so it goes to what we're talking about here is that is there incompetence in the wh
why is jared kushner having diplomat meetings with a bank? it makes no sense. the time of the transition, there were still questions about whether the sanctions would hold but an individualback doesn't makes any sense. arguably from the white house's viewpoint he's meeting with the ambassador. they failed to zleez. kickly ak came through the book door of the trump tower. it makes no sense from a diplomacy perspective let alone that russia's coming back with alternate explanation. i late to say...
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there's a will the of interelot the possible ties that may exist. >> we are learning that when jaredushner appears, he plans to describe his role as that of a point man as a back channel to vladimir putin. a source says neither of the meetings with the russian ambassador or state owned bank were about sanctions or kushner's real estate business. >> a federal judge in hawaii granting the state's request for a definite suspension of the travel ban. a preliminary injunction is blocking the executive order. it likely violates the constitution by disadvantaging muslims. the hawaii attorney general praised the decision. the justice department can now appeal watson's ruling to the ninth circuit. >>> ivanka trump is about to become an official employee of the federal government. she will serve as an unpaid assistant to her father in the white house and top security clearance. she is required to file financial disclosure forms and bound be white house ethics rules. a statement was released. more this morning from jim acosta. >> reporter: the white house confirmed that ivanka trump will be ser
there's a will the of interelot the possible ties that may exist. >> we are learning that when jaredushner appears, he plans to describe his role as that of a point man as a back channel to vladimir putin. a source says neither of the meetings with the russian ambassador or state owned bank were about sanctions or kushner's real estate business. >> a federal judge in hawaii granting the state's request for a definite suspension of the travel ban. a preliminary injunction is blocking...
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jared kushner is tasked with supreme -- streamlining the bureaucracy and now jared kushner will apply business strategies towards a federal bureaucracy to try to get rid of the waste and inefficiency. it's likely he'll run up against the entrenched bureaucracy as well as resistance from unions deeply entrenched in the federal government. we are also learning he may be headed up to capitol hill to testify in the investigation into what was russia was doing during the election and whether there are ties to the trump campaign in regard to that. the white house putting out a statement saying quote, throughout the campaign in transition jared served as the primary point of contact with foreign governments and officials. given this role he volunteered to speak to senator burr's committee but not yet received confirmation. there's reports the intelligence committees demanded he speak to them and others say the volunteered. ist chairman nunes asked for anyone to come forward. >> bill: it's time to stop pointing fingers and roll up your sleeves. here's jim jordan on that point. >> instead of d
jared kushner is tasked with supreme -- streamlining the bureaucracy and now jared kushner will apply business strategies towards a federal bureaucracy to try to get rid of the waste and inefficiency. it's likely he'll run up against the entrenched bureaucracy as well as resistance from unions deeply entrenched in the federal government. we are also learning he may be headed up to capitol hill to testify in the investigation into what was russia was doing during the election and whether there...
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jim, what does the panel want to know from jared kushner? >> wolf, i think they want to obviously ask jared kushner who is yet another name to surface in all of this investigation going on into potential links between the president, his societies and the russians during the 2016 campaign. so obviously that senate legs committee would like to hear from the president's son-in-law about some of the meetings he's had with russian officials. he did meet with the russian ambassador kislyak during the transition period. it appears he met with the head of a russian bank that was under sanctions that the u.s. had imposed after the russian intervention in crimea and ukraine. so obviously as a new name surfaces, wolf, those intelligence committee members are going to want to get to the bottom of it, because obviously if you take jared kushner's name and add to t to michael flynn, the attorney general jeff sessions and other officials who had have meetings with some of these russian officials, obviously questions are going to be raised. >> we don't know
jim, what does the panel want to know from jared kushner? >> wolf, i think they want to obviously ask jared kushner who is yet another name to surface in all of this investigation going on into potential links between the president, his societies and the russians during the 2016 campaign. so obviously that senate legs committee would like to hear from the president's son-in-law about some of the meetings he's had with russian officials. he did meet with the russian ambassador kislyak...
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so very high stakes for jared kushner. i don't have a problem with this.till questioning the role of kushner and ivanka truck. they're both working in the white house but on vacation in the first giant legislative failure of their father and father-in-law's presidency. so i would like more clarity what this means. so you're going to be sort of creating new government agencies? i don't understand what the role is exactly. so 100% just want more clarity. >> so in an interview, jared kushner said the government should be run like a great america company. they want to achieve successes and efficiencies -- >> my problem -- i'm not a business person. i'm a political analyst. in businesses, there's not a lot of whipping up of votes on both sides, which was needed in repeal and replace last week. so yes, it's fantastic. we have people successful in business, but i don't think if we learned one thing from last week, but it's important to have people to understand the nuances how the government is run as well. >> it's interesting, judge, the difference between the o
so very high stakes for jared kushner. i don't have a problem with this.till questioning the role of kushner and ivanka truck. they're both working in the white house but on vacation in the first giant legislative failure of their father and father-in-law's presidency. so i would like more clarity what this means. so you're going to be sort of creating new government agencies? i don't understand what the role is exactly. so 100% just want more clarity. >> so in an interview, jared kushner...
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." >> breaking news, a source telling cnn that jared kushner's meetings with russian officials, including with a head of a bank under u.s. sanctions were an attempt to find the right person to engage with on russia, a back-channel to vladimir putin. this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. meanwhile, we're now just hours away from the senate's first public hearing on russia's meddling in the election. top leaders of the senate intelligence committee outlining their bipartisan plan for the investigation saying they'll interview 20 witnesses, including kushner. >> this was one of the biggest investigations that the hill has seen in my tenure here. >> and the house investigation completes stalemate tonight, one glimmer of hope, chairman devin nunes and adam schiff planning to talk tomorrow, finally. can they get their investigation up and running again? i'm joined by jeffrey toobin, sally quinn, founding editor of "on fact," kristin powers and political commentator an draw bauer. good evening to all of you. thank you for coming on. it seems like the grown-ups are officially in the room now. the
." >> breaking news, a source telling cnn that jared kushner's meetings with russian officials, including with a head of a bank under u.s. sanctions were an attempt to find the right person to engage with on russia, a back-channel to vladimir putin. this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. meanwhile, we're now just hours away from the senate's first public hearing on russia's meddling in the election. top leaders of the senate intelligence committee outlining their bipartisan...
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maria: jared, thank you. jared max fox news headlines 247 or siriusxm 115.family gears up the hunting apparel. next hour with mornings with maria. back in a minute en road. en road. healthy, free, the world before me, the long brown path before me leading wherever i choose. the east and the west are mine. the north and the south are mine. all seems beautiful to me. to take advantage of this offer on a volvo s90, visit your local dealer. maria: good thursday morning, welcome back, thanks for being with us. i'm maria bartiromo and it is thursday march ninth, top stories right now 7:00 a.m. on the east coast. the search for evidence. senators are calling on president trump to prove claims that president obama wiretapped his phone. >> it's what we need to find out. there's obviously a lot of concern. i mean, i mention today john there was considerable concern last cycle when a reporter when a reporter was the target of one. but part of the reason that we have asked the house and senate to look at this is because of that. it has continued to be the same ole, same
maria: jared, thank you. jared max fox news headlines 247 or siriusxm 115.family gears up the hunting apparel. next hour with mornings with maria. back in a minute en road. en road. healthy, free, the world before me, the long brown path before me leading wherever i choose. the east and the west are mine. the north and the south are mine. all seems beautiful to me. to take advantage of this offer on a volvo s90, visit your local dealer. maria: good thursday morning, welcome back, thanks for...
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that's where we know that jared kushner will be interviewed. they may be less in the spotlight, but i think at this point, especially with the developments of nunes, it's shaping up that that may be where we learn the most about what happened here. >> a perfect segue into the next topic. jared kushner being called in front of the senate intelligence committee, what does the white house say about that? >> reporter: just what we've heard so far, which is that he's volunteered for this. this is something he's hg to wi to do. it is not testimony per se, it is an interview he'll be doing with senate intel. it's something to show, in his words, he has nothing to hide. senator mark warner was on just last hour and said they're still working out the details of when you might see that happen. >> give us the explanation why they're calling him in for an interview. >> he formally met with the russian ambassador during the transition. there was discussion about who mike flynn, the former national security adviser, met with during the transition and why. it
that's where we know that jared kushner will be interviewed. they may be less in the spotlight, but i think at this point, especially with the developments of nunes, it's shaping up that that may be where we learn the most about what happened here. >> a perfect segue into the next topic. jared kushner being called in front of the senate intelligence committee, what does the white house say about that? >> reporter: just what we've heard so far, which is that he's volunteered for...
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hearing this week, this as cnn has confirmed one of the president's close advisers, his son-in-law, jared kushner, will testify about his meetings with russian officials, including reportedly a russian banker. cnn's jessica schneider is following all of this for us. we want to start with the house intelligence chairman nunes today. the white house did or did not confirm that it could be his source, jessica? >> reporter: did not confirm. in fact, press secretary sean spicer repeatedly deflected the questions about what the white house knew saying they will leave it to chairman nunnes to explain what he's been looking at and where he got t.nunes himself refusing to reveal his source, and now the calls for replacing nunes as head of the investigation are growing. >> reporter: night before this unusual press conference -- >> what i've read bothers me, and i think it should bother the president. >> reporter: it turns out house intelligence chair devin nunes was actually on white house grounds. his spokesman confirming chairman nunes met with his source at the white house grounds in order to ha
hearing this week, this as cnn has confirmed one of the president's close advisers, his son-in-law, jared kushner, will testify about his meetings with russian officials, including reportedly a russian banker. cnn's jessica schneider is following all of this for us. we want to start with the house intelligence chairman nunes today. the white house did or did not confirm that it could be his source, jessica? >> reporter: did not confirm. in fact, press secretary sean spicer repeatedly...