the former homeland security director with us, jeh johnson.ood to have you back. >> thanks for having me. >> neil: he's the man under fire. how is he doing? >> i owned that problem for three years. kevin was deputy commissioner of cbp at the time. >> neil: the border patrol. >> yes. kevin is a good man. i have a lot of faith in him. he's right that what we faced in 2014 is a fraction of what we're seeing today. >> neil: what happened? how did it spiral? >> it's an excellent question. we had 100,000 apprehensions or ebb counters in march. another 100,000 in april. the highest it's been in 12 years. think of it this way. that is the equivalent of the population of the city of orlando, florida showing up on our southern border in two months. that create as crisis first of all emanating from central america, traveling through mexico along the mexican side and on the u.s. side of the southern border. >> neil: you think the mexicans are doing enough to control that? >> one of the things we were able to do in 2014 to contain the spike there was to wo

ago the same thing that you're talking about. >> i respect jeh johnson.d with him in the last surge in 2014 and 15. we built family detention center. we built facilities to hold facility, is so-called cages that the dems refer to. they were built under the secretary. congress said yeah, you have a problem there we're going to give you the resources, let you build facilities. the numbers are twice and much and they're saying manufactured crisis. they said there wasn't a caravan. it's a manufactured crisis. again, this is more about resisting this president and not helping him secure the border. their resistance and hate for this president has taken over their responsibility to secure our nation and take their job seriously. shame on them. we need to call out for this. >> tom hohmann, thank you for being with us today. >> thanks for having me. >> service members arriving in new york city for fleet week. ahead, i'll be joins by robert wilkey to talk about a break through in healthcare for veterans coming in days. this is the couple who wanted to get away who

i think it took jeh johnson, the dhs secretary under obama, to call it a humanitarian crisis. for them to block the president or say we're not going to support the $4.5 billion when the whole reason they're arguing is a humanitarian perspective, it shows you the level of hypocrisy that is the democrat party today. lou: they're not short of man ifsations of hypocrisy, are they? let's turn to the crisis itself. what do you think of the acting director of homeland security, secretary of homeland security, kevin mcaleenan? >> i think he's coming out strong. being a ranking member on the committee, we work directly, very much so, with dhs, even jeh johnson was there when i first arrived in congress. this is somebody who needs to identify the issue and then to message will. most of the american people had no idea of the trafficking that was going on, on the amount of drugs. even as a member of congress, we doesn't really get all that data til late last year and early this year. when the american people started finding out how big the crisis it is, they sided with the president. so w

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secretary jeh johnson under president obama said, when he would get that report every day, it was the first report he'd get as secretary of homeland security, how many people crossed illegally the day before. and he said if more than 1,000 a day crossed illegally, it was a bad day. today we're seeing experiences through homeland security where more than 4,000 people cross our border illegally per day. that's a crisis that has to be dealt with. it's why the president sent a supplemental funding request and we'd like to see that included in this bill. we tried to start addressing that problem. and i know maybe there's an inability on the other side to look into this properly, because there's so much fixation with collusion and russia and denial about the mueller report that showed that there was no collusion. we just saw the judiciary committee come out with a contempt finding. and i don't know if the gentleman is planning any floor time to bring contempt to the floor, the bill that just came out of the judiciary committee, but it would be unprecedented. probably the first time in ameri

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. >> martha: i want to start with you by playing this from jeh johnson who was the department of homelandhief under president obama. watch this. >> we had 100,000 apprehensions and encounters nut month of march and another 100,000 in the month of april. it's the highest it has been in 12 years. think of it this way. that is the equivalent of the population ever the city of orlando, florida. showing up on our southern border in the course of two months. that creates a crisis. >> martha: what do you say that to that and why is it a good idea to prevent the money that is going to help secure the wall and fix the areas that are broken where people get through. >> it's a matter of choices and a matter of priorities. the united states military has come to us to matt, myself and others on the armed services committee and laid out the money that they need to protect this nation, to provide our nation's security. that money is in everything from readiness, the ability the military of to operate to have fuel and the other armaments, including munitions that they need as well as military constructio

. >> kennedy: that was former obama dhs secretary jeh johnson. he is among those sounding the alarm over the migrant surge at the southern border. this, as president trump this afternoon is set to unveil details for his plan to transform the immigration system. senior administration officials telling fox news the plan will include ending the visa lottery system, implementing merit-based admission, building a wall and modernizing entry ports, and improving the asylum process. democratic senator dick durbin incorporated wing hit out of the speech, saying the white house is the only thing standing in the way of solving the crisis of the border. watch. >> every time we've tried to respond to the crisis in immigration he has play to his base and made the situation worse. what we face now is truly a humanitarian crisis. i think the detainees are being held at the border now are in dangerous and even life-threatening circumstances, and i have seen it firsthand. >> kennedy: the white house press secretary sarah sanders says democrats are not being seriou

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the president unveiling a new merit-based immigration plan but something jeh johnson saying does notenough. still the president right now is polling better on the economy than he does on immigration. the irony isn't lost on republicans at least this president is making it a front and center issue. whatever your views, congressional reporter on what happens to the president's plan from here? what do you think, medically? >> it is pretty much dead on arrival in congress. democrats want protection for so-called dreamers. they will not like this plan, and even some conservatives will have an issue with it, it doesn't crack down on legal immigration. the level overall would stay the same. look, immigration has been a really tough issue, even when republicans controlled both chambers of congress they were not able to get anything done last summer. i don't think the point is to come up with a plan to pass congress. the strategy is not only keep immigration in the spotlight, of course it's a signature issue for trump, he is gearing up for the re-election campaign. this is a way for the trump

brian: we spoke to jeh johnson on our "fox & friends" couch a month ago.d people the urgency, lawmakers responded. i don't want to get you involved in politics how would you characterize the response you get from the urgency we see. >> i was on that trip jeh johnson in june of 2014. we had 4400 people in custody on this sector. brian: how many do you have now. >> 8400. this crisis suspect bigger than we faced back then and we need congress' help. brian: you both interact act with the president extensively. when it comes to the border there is a report he blew up with you what's taking so long with this fence? is that true and have you guys felt that frustration from the president? >> well, he didn't blow up. he said "i need better results. deliver more. the situation is extreme, fix it. "that's why we are here. brian: i think this might be an example of where it works. >> yep. brian: you are the one who has been on the line for years is this effective. >> this area of the border you will see concrete base and full 18-foot steel bollard see here where it's

call up jeh johnson in new york city.tinguish the five alarm fire happening at our southern border. very sober, nonpolitical solution to a terrible problem. ainsley: his plan allow the kids from central america, once they are here and they are processed for asylum then they have to be sent back. also the 20 days changes to 100 days. steve: lindsey gram's plan in the senate. nancy pelosi in the house. what would she do? brian: see what happens. though know it's a catastrophe. steve: 7:11 in new york city. send it over to jillian. big story is alabama. jillian: the nation's strictest abortion ban signed in to law in alabama. governor kay ivey tweeting, quote: this legislation stands as a powerful testament to alabamaians deeply held belief that every life is precious and that every life is a sacred gift from god. the near total bans prevents women from getting an abortion unless the mother's health is at risk. doctors who do it anyway could face 99 years in prison. several groupings are vowing to challenge the law. >> presi

they want to turn a blind eye and jeh johnson understands the issues and problems and i worked with himdid the best he could when he was there under the circumstances, but i think that now that we have a republican president that understands it, that's willing to step up and make a difference, then he has to do what he needs to do, but we need pressure, now is the time. i think we can get something done maybe. neil: you hope, right? you're famous for that famous shot where you're getting in the president's face not doing enough to help you out at the border. this president put out a plan this week he says will alleviate a lot of the problems we have, but he's complicated it, democrats say, by this merit-based plans for people 0 who get green cards and the like, that people like maxine waters goes so far as to call racist, what do you think. >> that's outrageous, anytime we do anything then we're racist. the our immigration system has been in flux, hasn't worked for years. it was addressed way back at world war ii and 1996, to give certain people ability to get members of their families

jeh johnson has done everyone a great service, especially democrats saying it's official, this is a crisis and we have to talk about it in that language. i hope there's a gang of six bill, gang of eight where we can get somewhere on this. this asylum system is ground zero for fixing this. >> can i step in? were you done? >> i am. >> what the representative told me, don't buy them lock, star and barrel on the democrat side just because he doesn't fulfill believing everything what the republicans are putting forth. he has his own ideas. they don't mirror -- >> i'm not arguing that at all. making an argument about people that represent border states when you have a republican outspoken about his aversion to the way republicans are addressing his. >> his aversion is to not getting anything done. >> but he doesn't think a wall -- >> nothing. i want to get this in. what actually forces the hand? that's where i'm curious. you've had upwards of 338% increase. i'm not going to call them migrant families anymore because of the details that you spit out. these are adults traveling with children. then

we only know about in retrospect in which a number of people, department of homeland secretary jeh johnson, james comey, the former at the time fbi director, they come to capitol hill and meet with top leaders, including mitch mcconnell, on this concern about russia. now what happens in that meeting? well, we know again from cnn's reporting and others that mcconnell actively questioned the underlying intelligence that suggests russian interference in the election. now, a reminder, the -- the counterintelligence operation begins in july of 2016, brianna, so it's not -- we're not two years on. this was the early stage of t.mcconnell questions that and says anything that is stated comes out pubically here is going to look partisan, and he opposes it, but he doesn't just go to that. let's go to the next slide. he also blocks the must fulsome statement that could be given about this. there were some in the room including administration officials who wanted to say russia have doing this. they need to stop, a public statement with the force of all top congressional leaders and the white house beh

we'll talk to former homeland security secretary jeh johnson who worked with barack obama whether this makes sense. that is at 4:00 p.m. now is charles payne. charles: i heard you were making social suit payments, neil. neil: i'm there now. i don't like the math on no kids. charles: it is serious issue. we'll discuss that as well. good afternoon, i'm charles payne. this is "making money." market with a sharp reversal planning to delay imposing auto tariffs as negotiations continue. that is good news for investors especially after seeing weak economic data particularly from china and also the united states. what do you make of the market whipsaws, should investors be riding or selling these waves? >> we're talking about the american baby bust. talking about economic social impact of the u.s. birth rate sunk to the lowest level in 32 years. the fallout will surprise you. >>> u.s. industry in iraq, tensions with iran heightened. but is the trump administration fighting on too many fronts? iran, china, venezuela. there are the domestic battles as well. all the hot spots keep growing. ♪ cha

even jeh johnson is saying it's a crisis. >> what i'm saying to you i think it's mall practice for youon a saturday morning. what we know is 76% of the american people, over 60% want a comprehensive immigration reform package that will deal with all the things the democrats have been talking about for a very long time. what republicans want is a right-wing red meat plan that will simply generate a response from the base to help get donald trump re-elected. >> no. i want a comprehensive plan. i want to deal with the daca situation. i want to deal with e-verify. i want to deal with chain migration. i want a grand deal. it's high time we come to the table, make concessions on both sides, fix the system and say we're never going to do this again. i think you'll be pleasantly surprised to see what we're willing to give up to get this situation fix. >> what you want and what the republicans who want to get re-elected and want to drive their base are apples and oranges. the bottom line is all you don't want that. you want to have donald trump show up at his rally, shout out all this red meat

i say we, secretary of homeland security jeh johnson and i on the 27th of october 2017, and i got emasculatedevelation of the "access hollywood" tapes and the dumping of john podesta e-mails so our message got lot. i do think -- and then, of course, the criticisms levied on the obama administration. what was the trump campaign doing at the same time with aiding and abetting the russians and having dozens of contacts with russians, some of whom were connected to officially russian intelligence. >> not meeting the legal definition of aiding and abetting. >> well, i'm using that in a parochial or colloquial sense i guess. >> yeah. >> but -- and certainly the president candidate trump on the 27th of july exhorting the russians to go out, an adversary, an enemy of ours, to help him and his campaign against his opponent, and by the way the russians complied with that request about five hours later, so it's a bit much, and then the other thing, of course, is -- is probably -- the stiffest action that the obama administration took on the 29th of december with the sanctions, the expelling of 35 russia

. ♪ >> president obama's homeland security secretary, jeh johnson, said if a thousand people crossed was too many in one day. these days we're getting 4,000 or 5,000 crossing illegally. it's overwhelming the system. >> reporter: that's house minority whip steve scalise talking about the influx of migrants entering our southern border as the trump administration pushes back against reports that customs and border protection was looking to transfer hundreds of migrants to two counties in south florida. jeff paul is following this. jeff? >> reporter: initially, border patrol's interim sand day owe sector chief told the agency the agency was considering flying migrants to areas like detroit, buffalo and miami. on thursday sheriffs in broward and palm beach county said border patrol notified them their communities could start seeing up to 1,000 migrants being flown in per month beginning in two weeks. one of the local sheriffs said the move was not humanitarian, and florida governor ron desantis said florida couldn't handle the, quote, dumping of migrants. now border officials saying ther

. >>> the crisis at the border out of control, even obama's former homeland security secretary jeh johnsonaid the number of apprehensions in just the last two months equals the size of a major u.s. city. >> we had 100,000 apprehensions or encounters in the month of march and another 100,000 in the month of april, the highest it's been in 12 years, and to think of it this way, that is the equivalent of the population of the city of orlando, florida, showing up on our southern border in the course of two months. elizabeth: and the number of immigration court cases bigger than the population of detroit or memphis. this as the mayor of new mexico declaring a state of emergency because of the surge of migrants and churches in places like denver and dallas texas taking in migrants because border facilities are overcrowded or swamped. here's the washington post quote detention bed space is overcapacity. border patrol stations overwhelmed. local communities from california to texas unable to handle the release of thousands of migrants. let's bring in council vice president hector garza. thank you

even jeh johnson, president obama's -- who handled the border issue for president obama at dhs, acknowledgeshat he has never seen before. so you have to wonder, you know, if everyone's acknowledging more and more that this is a crisis, what is the solution? you have democrats here saying, well, the wall that you're talking about that you described as a medieval thing and suggests all they have to do, illegal immigrants, is bring a tall ladder, what do you say to that kind of rhetoric? >> well, it's -- that rhetoric is, i just dismiss it, because it doesn't make any sense because the realities, if you've ever stood next to a 30-foot bollard fence, that is where people -- even in our military we train that way because people say, hey, there's a real risk there. so they're going to quit coming there. but until we revise our asylum laws, charles, if they get on that wall, our agents are having to take them down, bring them into the country because they're claiming asylum while they're hanging onto our fence. we have got to make sure the wall's there, but we also have to take care of the asylum l

people like jeh johnson come out, barack obama's homeland security secretary said he's right about that he's right about the emergency. so he cites the emergency and voters give him lower marks on this immigration issue. >> yeah, i'm interested to see what the marks are for congress. i think it signals that voters want to see immigration solved and a resolution in washing top. the president continually goes back to democrats and says, okay, let's come together on this. today is a step, let's look at canada, australia that do merit-based immigration. we have jobs to fill. let's agree on the things we can agree on. six years ago, every democrat voted for merit-based immigration. so maybe we start there. >> neil: like on immigration, my parents, both sides, what can you bring to this country. i'd be so proud of my handy. >> they brought you. >> neil: but didn't go down the gene poll. there was that sort of thing. what can you add. do you have someone that you can be with that is not the government taking care of you. it was built into our immigration system. now it's veered into another ar

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jeh johnson talk about how we have a three-pronged crisis which also begins in these home countries andf them are certainly not something that's going to help. i'm interested in what lindsey graham's plan is. >> brian: it's good, it's not what's needed. >> jessica: you might think it's good, but i might not necessarily. >> brian: he wants to give them 100 days. you give them 45 days can we get judges a little bit of one the stomach money and housing, they can do this. >> melissa: it might differ from other people, but when you describe these people coming to our country i don't want them to not come. i just think we can't have an open border and a liberal, social welfare program. when you hear dubai and saying it's our obligation to give these people free health care when they come, i would love if that were possible. >> brian: was not getting it then? >> melissa: we can't afford it. we have a need to welcome people i do have to work and pay taxes, or we need to -- >> harris: it hits the nail on the head. it is and that we turn off the ability or our hearts to give it, but it's just not

joining us now is jeh johnson. he served as homeland security secretary under president obama. good to see you. >> thanks for having me, ana. >> do you think it's important for mueller to testify? >> i believe that there is a public interest in congress calling robert mueller to testify. you recall the watergate hearing, for example, there were extensive hearings, extensive public testimony about things that went on during the nixon administration, particularly as an election approaches, and this president appears to be standing for reelection. there is a public interest in knowing exactly what happened and how it happened. >> and when with talk about what happened, how it happened, the mueller report obviously really dived into and dissected how russia interfered in the election. >> yes. >> you were at the head of dhs during that time, 2016, as we were learning that they were interfering. did you learn anything from the mueller report that you weren't aware of during that time? >> the indictments of the russian government officials for hacking into the dnc for the misinformati

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jeh johnson, who was barack obama's homeland security secretary, said it was a bad day for him when heaw that the day before over 1,000 people crossed illegally. today we're seeing more than 4,000 cross. and the committee of jurisdiction, you would think would be holding hearings on how to solve this crisis at the border and instead they're holding hearings to hold the attorney general in contempt and continue to go down this witch hunt rabbit hole. mike: so the president is pursuing a run out the clock strategy with the house majority , where the top story on, a xios today quotes an outside advisor to the west wing saying that the idea of refusing document requests, subpoenas, is not an opening bargaining position, but that's administration policy. is this approach going to work? mr. scalise: i think the president's been right in complying with the law, but also in focusing on doing his job. he was elected to help get this country back on track. and it's working. just last week we saw some of the best jobs numbers that we've seen in decades. 49-year low of unemployment. wages are up f

you that would be a little too brazen, but there is this emergency, there is this cris crisis, jeh johnsonbooker, the democratic presidential candidate, senator from new jersey, saying as much. there does seem to be agreement, more agreement than certainly there used to be, that we've got to do something, but what? >> well, look, two things. one, they have explicitly said they want some of this money for more detention facilities. the money the president freed up with his executive orders, emergency order, they can use that for construction. they've got limitations on how they can use those dollars. it's actually easier for them to use those dollars for the wall than these dollars. i think that's why they are asking for additional money because they can't use that emergency order money for things like detention capacity. secondly, you talked about there is a recognition that there is this crisis. part of the problem is we have a program now where it's almost like catch and release, where you've got folks saying you've got to go through the judicial process, but then because we don't have c

we'll talk to former homeland security secretary jeh johnson who worked with barack obama whether this 4:00 p.m. now is charles payne. charles: i heard you were making social suit payments, neil. neil: i'm there now. i don't like the math on no kids. charles: it is serious issue. we'll discuss that as well. good afternoon, i'm charles payne. this is "making money." market with a sharp reversal planning to delay imposing auto tariffs as negotiations continue. that is good news for investors especially after seeing weak economic data particularly from china and also the united states. what do you make of the market whipsaws, should investors be riding or selling these

liberty is crying and all this other stuff, when in fact, increasingly, democrats from cory booker to jeh johnsonormer homeland security head, is saying we do have a problem at the border and it's a big one. what happened? how did this morph into a racist, cruel, inhumane argument? >> i think it's all about optics and it's about the word choices that the president uses. he has expanded upon the immigration policies, many of them put in place under president obama, but because of the fact that president trump uses not so nice language, he tweets all the time about the terrible people trying to come into the country and these terrible countries they're coming from, it looks as though he hates all of the people who are trying to come into the united states. so so much of it is his own doing, where if he just stops the rhetoric and stops saying terrible things about the people, and simply implemented the policies, i don't think he would get the pushback that he does. because a lot of what he does started under president obama and started under president george w. bush. so much of it is the president'

i think jeh johnson, president obama's homeland security secretary got it right couple years ago whentestified to the house intelligence committee. he said we have to treat our elections system as critical infrastructure. secondly we have to look at our voter registration database. do whatever it takes to make sure it is not vulnerable to cyber attack. that brings a question why is this country been asleep so long about cybersecurity? that is a big question. the president made good steps recently addressing the cyber workforce issue. we don't have people adequately trained to thwart worst kind of cyberattacks. i was glad to see the president with the workforce initiative. and president created a office in the white house. why is that important? whoever wins the quantum race will win the cyber war. whoever wins the cyber hand will have upper hand in the next major military conflict. neil: i don't know if they're paying attention to the russian role potentially in the next election, secretary, i worry about that. >> i do too. neil: to a man or woman running for president of the united s

ainsley: jeh johnson said it's the size of orlando. they brian went down there.absolutely. horrific what's going on down there. our laws are set up in a way that are a r. magnets for people to come here. if they get in this country and step one foot on our soil they are here. we have got to fix that. steve: there is a suggestion i think i was readings "the washington post" this morning. repeating what was in the daily caller yesterday how people in the administration are talking about using the insurrection act which hasn't been used in a long time. it lets the president use the military to combat lawlessness or rebellion or to remove illegal immigrants. is the administration considering the insurrection? >> look, the president has been very clear. is he going to do everything -- steve: is that a yes or no. >> he is going to do everything in his authority. steve: is that a yes or no? >> no. [cheers and applause] >> i'm saying there are lots of tools at his disposal. he hasn't used them all and looking at ways to protect the american people. brian: that would be g

and these are unprecedented numbers as even former homeland security secretary jeh johnson said.provide healthcare and everything else that citizens of the united states get to these folks? that i think is not going to sell with a lot of americans. >> bill: why do you think that bernie sanders who won new hampshire, why wouldn't he be doing better up there? is there something moving on the democratic left you're picking up that they don't like in his ideas all of a sudden? >> well some. there is a little worry about him. there is a lot of worry about him from the center. the question is what governs this nomination process? and last time you remember the bernie people, bill, thought that the hillary people stole the nomination from him. they won't let it happen this time. they've got the passion on their side. you showed earlier a clip of alexandria ocasio-cortez and bernie sitting there talking about a credit card cap on interest rates. that's where the emergency and drive is. so we'll see. coming out of the blocks, coming out of the gate joe biden, you know, is very familiar. p

when you have jeh johnson, obama's secretary of homeland security say we have a crisis, we are startingo see the democrat narrative crack. we have had 30 years of a broken immigration system. we have to have resources. we have to get a grip on illegal aliens in this country. next inurice is arkansas. hi there. caller: how are you doing? host: doing fine. democrats line. caller: i have watched c-span for over 30 years. this man sat there, and he just makes up fax. c-span would be a better source for everybody if you would go back to the original format of having to people to debate. there and just sit say whatever they want to. host: we often do. we often have roundtable discussions. we bring people on who are formally of the administration, people who are from the left, the right, the middle. guest: the first amendment, we love it. int: we will go to david texas, republican line. caller: i did not hear that guy call in when the man was on calling every republican a racist. mr. gorka, so please to talk to you. pleasee off this topic, have them in the white house start to make -- draw com

jeh johnson. it's a crisis. stuart: talk politics for a second.oll in iowa, amongst iowa democrats, they are tied. beto o'rourke, bill de blasio, have brutally low numbers. looks to me like the front-runners are beginning to emerge. what say you? >> it is interesting. bernie sanders won in iowa last time around but when you look on the republican side, ted cruz won in iowa. iowa is very persnickety, as an indicator what comes after that. it is interesting, not that surprising to me that biden and sanders are at this point, nine months out, duking it out little bit in the state of iowa. you look at new hampshire, elizabeth warren is rising. she doesn't have the bernie-like baggage but a candidate speaks to voters in new hampshire. i actually didn't think joe biden would get into the race. at this point i'm not sure he is going to stay in the race. stuart: whoa, that is news, martha maccallum. >> just based on experience of covering him and covering elections for the past five now presidential cycles, counting this one. i just don't, often at this s

jeh johnson has profiled a number of creative geniuses including george lucas and jim hanson, and now new book, "becoming dr. seuss: theodore geisel and the making of an american imagination." what made you turn your sights on theodore geisel, giving all the incredible sort of imaginations that you've tried to really put words to? >> sure. well, he's one of those big names who does work you know. and that's sort of my lane. i really love to know what makes these people tick, what frustrates them, what inspires them, and with a name like this that emerges fully formed in our american imagination, i thought it would be fascinating to go back and look at those secret origin stoifr stories of his .p >> what did you find out? >> he had his head turned by the movies in the 1950s. and, you know, was never really able to write children's books full-time for a living until he's in his 50s and finally hits it with "the cat in the hat," but a fascinating arc to his career. a number of times he could have gone off the rails. >> and give us a sense of what else you discovered in terms of what make

actually doing any hard work behind closed doors to make some small adjustments the way you did for jeh johnsone past to at least address the emergency now and maybe what you get elected to do. do something comprehensively for 2020. steve: brian, as it turns out, there is good news, the democrats are talking about doing some legislation but it's to stop what the administration is thinking about doing. ainsley: of course. of course. democrat are totally against anything that this president would want. don mcgahn, they asked him to show up yesterday. the president tweeting about that saying come on. it's been two years of investigation. he sat down and answered questions for hours. 30 hours. and they still want to question him again. he didn't show up and they're upset about it. brian: the president of the united states is going to be meeting with chuck schumer and nancy pelosi today. before i pass infrastructure i want to pass the usmca. the president should say before we do anything about infrastructure usmca we have to address the situation at the border. these border agents are going to quit

under jeh johnson. i said children are being trafficked. i read the intelligence reports.s to be done. i'm glad it's being done because if kids are being recycled and trafficked. the unfortunate thing is it took five years to make it happen and how many children came across with people that aren't their parents. you remember family separation and the judge ordered reunification 6% of the people had d.n.a. test showed parents weren't even the parents. if you are 2500 there is a couple hundred children released to people that weren't even their parents. this is a great program. brian: swab their cheek. swab the inside of their mouth and two hours you will get the results. of course have you adoption and other things. there will be a conversation. just the fact that there will be a d.n.a. swab as you know it might be a deterrent. there is also talk of mark morgan being the next ice director. would you be in support of that? >> yeah. look, mark morgan is a friend of mine. actually, i was with him last night on another show. he contacted by the white house rumor. you know, mark

they have disinvited jeh johnson. obama guy. at usc because of his border policy.hile, many of these kids go in a lot of debt. these guys get in state tuition if you break the law and come in the i will country illegally. pete: why wouldn't she try another speed if if you are a conservative or democrat you are going in front of college graduates. why do you have to go right back to politics? it would be interesting if she gave a different take? >> oh, you mean more like a nuanced discussion? pete: not even that just cultural or advice. ainsley: inspirational. >> we are an easy target. we are talking about this during the break but it's like conservatives are darth vader. we are always the evil one when you get free stuff. easy policy for them to say we are the party of giving you free stuff. combating wealth redistribution, what the hell was that? i mean, telling these kids that are getting ready to get a degree. walk across the straight. wealth inequality. brian: the last person if i was part of higher education institution i would invite would be nancy pelosi. sh