>> exactly what jim himes said. they haven't gotten a new briefing yet so they're not exactly sure what is happening with these last two objects. they want more answers. but there are problems that the house is going to be out for a couple weeks so a new gang of eight briefing probably isn't likely, and that's where they get the most information. the senate can do something. we saw this. we also know this is becoming very political as well. not only republicans see this as an opportunity to attack the administration over this, but even democrats who are up for re-election in 2024 in conservative states like jon tester are also trying to be really tough on the administration. but there is unanimity on the issue of this. everyone is calling for more. >> simone, you've been in those decisions where you have to disclose something uncomfortable, and you're doing it in a week where, no, no, we want to control our own message, state of the union. can't help wonder if that stuff is colliding a little bit. >> i think when jo

congressman jim himes thanks for being here. i'm just going to get right to it.ht now, as far as you can tell? does this balloon -- should this balloon -- be taken down immediately? >> alex, we are in no danger from this balloon. and if we were or if there was a risk that we, where it would have been taken down immediately. this is not a new technology. we have seen this before. to my knowledge this is the first time we have seen it over of the middle of the continental united states. what we know what these things. are they are not a danger. if they were, they would be shot down. i would make the point that it is obviously very embarrassing for the chinese. and it's actually pretty aggressive of the chinese. we spy on each other that will come as a surprise to nobody. we try to steal their secrets they try to steal ours. floating a balloon over the continental united states is pretty aggressive. i will just make this point, as somebody who lives in the world of intelligence. i've got an awful lot of friends and colleagues and others who just want to blame shoot

radar over montana on saturday but it was determined to be not another flying object, congressman jim himesssed it all on abc, rather on nbc this morning. >> i have real concerns about why the administration is not being more forthcoming with everything that it knows. part of the problem is the second and the third objects were shot down in very remote areas, so my guess is that there's just not a lot of information out there yet to share. mike: congressman himes, ranking member of panel expressing concerns over the biden administration's response to string of unidentified objects. for more on this let's bring terry holt, former george w. bush spokesperson and kevin walling, democratic strategist and former president biden surrogate. gentlemen, welcome. you heard from jim himes, serious national security democrat expressing concerns about wanting more information, bipartisan concerns at this point, kevin. >> i think that's always congress' line with anything regardless of the administration is that they want more information, they want more briefings from the military, they want more briefi

and now for object president for shooting them down over or near the united states right now is jim himeshest ranking democrat on the house intelligence committee, he's there for a member of the gang of, a witch from nze gets briefed regularly and highly sensitive intelligence matters, which you can't talk about with us at all, congressman himes i'm looking for talking to you about this tonight, thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me, rachel. >> i know you can't talk about anything classified, on which you've been briefs, that said, can you help me answer any those questions that i just asked? can you help us understand whether those are known things, that the u.s. government just isn't a chain as is with about, or whether the u.s. government is equally in the dark as the rest of us. >> yeah, rachel, let me take a stab at that, i don't have to be quite as prices ice as a genuine star general has to be, let me tell you this, based on what i've heard from the government and what i think, this is speculative, but informed speculation. these are, in all likelihood, balloons, and ballo

we spoke with democratic congressman jim himes about vice president harris' speech and efforts to hold russia accountable for crimes against humanity. here is what he said. >> the real specificity and strength with which the vice president made the case that russia is committing crimes against humanity, it really serves two purposes. it's hard to explain what the atmosphere is like here. the free world has gathered in munich right now. of course, there's a hunger for justice given the images that continue to come out of ukraine. the other thing that's really important about this, from the private on the battlefield right up to the masters in the kremlin, they need to understand that this ends with them in handcuffs, that this ends with them being held accountable as the vice president said, for these crimes against humanity. that may serve the effect of creating a little bit of tension within russian ranks. >> again, that was congressman jim himes in munich speaking to amara this morning. we want to go back out to alex marquardt. it sounds like we've been able to iron out some of these

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lawmakers attending the munich security conference is congressman jim himes of cut, a top democrat onnce committee. congressman, thank you so much for joining us. and first off, i want to get your reaction to vice president ha harris' speech. she officially declared russia committing crimes against humanity during its war with ukraine. and vowed had those responsible will be held to account. and how significant is this as we are less than a week away from the one year mark of the invasion? >> that is certainly the news in the speech today, the real specificity and strength with which the vice president made the case that russia is committing crimes against humanity. and it really serves two purposes. hard to explain what the atmosphere is like. the tree worldfree world is gat munich. and what is important about this, from the private on the battlefield in ukraine right now, the russian private, right up to the masters in the kremlin, they need to understand that it ends with them in handcuffs and them being held account only for these crimes against hugh manity. and that may serve to

congressman jim himes with us for the next 10 minutes.is an independent out of birmingham, alabama. caller:. good morning during the trump administration similar balloons flew over the continental united states. i was wondering if those trajectories also happen to coincide with the spread of covid. i understand it may also have come from the northwest. taking a look at mass from these balloons, maybe matching that with the maps of the covid spread. that should be the first priority. guest: we are in the process of understanding the history of these balloons. and air force general made a comment -- i have to get the exact words. during the previous of nutrition we had seen some of these balloons, including possibly over the united states. i want to step in on the covid question. there is no evidence whatsoever these balloons are in any way, shape or form involved in covid. the government is still working hard to understand the origins of the covid pandemic. it is made harder by the chinese unwillingness to share data statistics. ou experts

>> jim himes makes a good point. it does not need to be members of congress.ople will be spreading conspiracy theories. i have concerns on both sides of things. the administration is obviously not saying a whole lot. it is rare that we get both republicans and democrats criticizing the demonstration -- so, either they don't know a whole lot, which is concerning on its own. how are these things are happening? and we just don't know about it? let's figure out why that is. or they do know things and they are unwilling to talk about it. we seem to be learning a lot about these things from tweets. members of congress who happen to be representing areas -- that is no way to be communicating to the public. i don't want to overstate the long term political impact because we don't know what this is or how long this story is going to be with us. but it seems at this point this is one of the things that needs a lot of attention from the administration to make sure they are not fumbling the football here. making sure that they are being as clear as they can. even if you d

, who was here, congressman jim himes on friday, was is this a thing?ing information or does this represent an escalation from china in the case of the first one and we don't know where the other ones came from? but is there a brazenness in terms of how and where and who is spying on america? >> so yes. we do need to level set. and the level set would involve understanding that we spy on others and they spy on us and this goes on all the time. however, comma, the distinction with this first incident which was clearly by all accounts, except perhaps the chinese account, was a chinese reconnaissance spy balloon, is that it was seemingly designed to send a message. this kind of low-altitude in your face we're coming to montana then we're going to kind of float across the rest of the united states, even if they lost control of it sometimes, then regained control, that's a brazen -- why? what message are they sending? >> helene -- sorry. >> the message it appears is being sent is -- >> go ahead, frank. >> i'm sure. can you -- >> yeah. keep going, frank. >> t

>> joe: jim himes can't defend the indefensive and you heard chuck schumer saying china should be embarrassedere, get that man a good chiropracter. the bottom line is right now there is severe trust factor when it comes to this administration regarding objects being shot down from michigan to alaska, it is days later and we have no idea what they are or where they came from and the president was at the white house all weekend for a black tie event and he not coo be bothered to answer questions or go in front of the microphones and make a statement to reassure the country this is under control and now we're hearing the pentagon can't rule out that they were ufo's. et doesn't want to visit berlin or london? there are more questions because of lack of transparency and anything regarding definitive answer out of this administration. >> todd: the aliens are interested in joe biden's state of the union, coordinating with that week. i digres. >> ashley: i would rather aliens than china invade our air space. in all seriousness, do you think everything in the last week and a half, you talk about the p

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congressman, thank you for coming in, and you have heard from one of the democratic congressmen jim himeso you believe they should share more? >> i believe they have been. we have just received a classified briefing about the ccp balloon before we left town. we are going to be receiving briefings about the latest shoot downs soon. i believe that the administration is taking the responsible position to examining the wreckage before they can give us answers to the question, and for that matter, the canadians are going to do the same thing, and so we will receive the answers to the questions in short order. >> you mentioned that you are going to be getting a briefing soon, and the senators will receive a briefing wednesday. have you all receive ad date? >> well, we have not received a date and time, but we are in constant communication with the administration at this point about what is happening, and i expect that we will receive a classified briefing in due court as well. do you this they -- what i am hearing from you is that the administration is taking the appropriate time to find out wh

lauren: congressman turner is a republican but as you just heard earlier, congressman jim himes is notentially saying the same thing. they go on tv, all these lawmakers, they speculate. that doesn't help anybody out. the president should tell them everything they november and don't know. ashley: we con to wait to hear from the president for sure. thank you, lauren. mark cuban says misinformation will only get worse as big tech goes all in on artificial intelligence. we'll explain why the billionaire is so concerned. joe concha said the red wave finally arrived after it failed to materialize in the midterms. he will tell us why he believes blue states are facing a pretty grim reality. that's next. ♪. mom. can we get a puppy, mom? please? girls, pets are a big expense. aww. [ audience cheers ] maybe try switching your car insurance to progressive. you could save hundreds. [ audience laughter ] thanks, tv dad. we'll think about it, okay? look what i found. -a puppy! -a puppy! oh, no, no. i wish tv dad was always in charge. [ dog barks, audience laughter ] listen to your tv dad. drivers wh

. >> congressman jim himes think you the democratic ranking member of the intelligence committee. go ahead and call in republicans (202)748-8001 democrats (202)748-8000. a long day on capitol hill. c-span coverage begins at 8:00 p.m. eastern. >> i'm bringing a guide by the name is mark a constituent who owns an organization called the childcare learning center at stanford which is one of the best early childhood child education centers in the country country. why is this important? we are not supporting them as much as we should. too many par 5-year-olds are arriving into kindergarten not ready to learn because we just don't have enough support by families. single-parent households, mom or dad whoever whoever the single parent is doesn't have a good option for their child. they aren't in the workforce so we can do better making sure every family has access to good competent childcare would be much stronger. >> he think president biden will talk about those issues? >> i hope so. my hope is one of the challenge we have is we spend a day talking about a chinese balloon into few peopl

. >> and democratic congressman jim himes a members of the house intelligence committee on "meet the press". >> i have real concerns why the administration is not being more forthcoming with everything that it knows. part of the problem is both the second and the third objects were shot down in very remote areas, so my guess is that there's just not a lot of information out there yet to share. >> how much of an issue is this politically for the white house? >> jose, i think the main issue here is that there are many, many more questions than there are answers, and so the question a lot of folks are asking including lawmakers is does the white house, does the administration, the department of defense just not have those answers yet or do they have them and they're not sharing them for some particular reason? i thought it was striking that the congressman noted yesterday, and he as the ranking member on that house committee that that gang of eight, the top intelligence leaders in the house and senate got a very extensive briefing after that first chinese spy balloon was shot down, and

. >> congressman jim himes, the ranking democrat on the house intelligence committee, a man who knows of what he speaks maybe as much as anybody does on this subject, thanks for making time to be here with us tonight. i appreciate it. >> thank you. here with us toni. i appreciate it. >> thank you ♪ hey bud. wow. what's all this? hawaii was too expensive so i brought it here. you know with priceline you could actually take that trip for less than all this. i made a horrible mistake. yeah... we...made a horrible mistake. ♪ go to your happy price ♪ ♪ priceline ♪ this man needs updated covid protection. so does she. ♪ gyup, these guys too.e ♪ because covid is still out there, and so are you. and if your last vaccine was before september 2022, you're out there with fading protection. but an updated vaccine restores your protection. so you can keep doing you. get an updated covid vaccine and stay out there, safely. >> woman: why did we choose safelite? >> vo: for us, driving around is the only way we can get our baby to sleep, so when our windshield cracked, we needed it fixed right. we wen

right to use necessary means to deal with similar situations, and here's what democratic congressman jim himesd about that threat from china. >> i don't fear retaliation. they're the aggressor. they flew a military asset over our sovereign territory. >> are you concerned about retaliation or at the very least escalation in this relationship? >> what i think u.s. military planners will have to think about is, what kind of aircraft they now fly into contested territories say in the south china sea, areas that the u.s. says are international waters that china claims as its own. what china could use this incident for now, no matter who intended it or if it was unintentional and a stray errant balloon, now when u.s. spy craft go into chinese territory, they will feel emboldened to shoot it down. you might remember back in 2001, a u.s. spy plane, among many spy planes that regularly did incursion over chinese air space, got knocked out of the sky by a chinese jet and the u.s. had to negotiate for the release of the spy crew. that created the kind of public message that china might want to send to it

democratic congressmember jim himes appeared on meet the press sunday and call on the biden administration release more information. >> the one thing that is troubling me, i see a pattern as i look at social media this morning, all of the sudden massive speculation about alien invasions and additional chinese action and russian action. in the absence of information, people's anxiety leads them to potentially destructive areas. i do hope very soon the administration has a lot more information for all of us on what is going on. amy: u.s. senators are scheduled to receive a classified briefing today. we are joined now by jake werner. he is a historian of modern china and a research fellow at the quincy institute for responsible statecraft. his new piece for the nation with phil -- bill hartung is titled "war with china is preventable, not inevitable." welcome to democracy now! what we are seeing in this last week, you have these jet fighter planes that are taken down, exploding these surveillance objects in the sky. even people like commerce member himes arson, what are we doing? they don't p

. >> democratic jim himes disagrees, saying they have yet to hear the extent of what was gained by watching and waiting. expect the criticism from the right to be loud especially for the next 24 hours. tomorrow is the state of the union. unfortunate timing for the biden team who were hoping to keep the focus on the economy and jobs. where they have some pretty decent numbers. we've got details on what president biden plans to say on that topic in a moment. also, reaction on both a lawmaker and a newly formed select committee focusing on china, and the president's former press secretary is as well. and a former cia china analyst tells us what in the world china was trying to gain by floating their spy ware in front of us. joining me now, nbc news capitol hill correspondent ali vitali, and nbc news senior white house correspondent kelly o'donnell. let me play for you what republicans are saying about the spy balloon and the administration's reaction to it. >> the u.s. had to see this coming and decided they couldn't or wouldn't do anything about it early on. >> imagine how this would have pla

and joining nous is the top democrat on the house intelligence commity congressman jim himes of connecticutding explanation right now these three objects were benign but also this administration has few answers they're putting out there publicly. are you concerned the u.s. scrambled fighter jets to shoot down objects it apparently doesn't know much about? >> well, not really, briana. now, i am concerned this is not going to be a long-term solution to every piece of atmospheric garbage that we find up there. and i should note we had a briefing today at noon. it was unclassified by the house. and what i heard in that briefing has been substantiating some speculative theories i've had for a couple days now, which is that we have recalibrated our raiders. we're calibrated as one might imagine to pick up things that are very fast moving, you know, at certain altitudes. and now that we're actually looking because we recalibrated those raiders, lo and behold we're finding a lot of stuff. i'll take you back to the hearings we did a year ago on what most people call ufos. and there's just a lot of s

congressman jim himes, ranking member of the house permanent select committee.atest incident, where about our skies, are they safe? we'll keep an eye on that. for this weekend, a lot of attention on the super bowl and maybe a diversion that americans need and doesn't matt finn know it at super bowl headquarters in arizona. matt. >> hey, neil, we're now 24 hours away from the big game. we've been on the ground here behind the scenes talking to fans and some of the players and we've got a pretty intense look at some of the security right after this break. all across the country, people are working hard to build a better future. so we're hard at work helping them achieve financial freedom. we're proud to serve people everywhere, in investing for the retirement they envision. from the plains to the coasts, we help americans invest for their future. and help communities thrive. >> enjoy the game, but keep it safe. that's seems to be the security interest right now ahead of the big super bowl. of course, the big game and 70,000 plus fans crammed into phoenix, arizona.

jim himes of connecticut is out front. he's the top democrat on the house intelligence committee.zhin's growing influence. former u.s. general for europe, earlier tonight told me that if prigozhin went up -- he be shot down and killed? , so why is he engaging in this propaganda in a fighter that, and frankly seemingly childish really suggesting that he and president trump's have an air double? >>, well -- he's trying to do. he's basically trying to displace the russian military hierarchy. this is the whole point by the way about his fight in bakhmut. it's not a terribly important military. prize but he, saying, look russia hasn't had a lot of winds, one win arguably it's not done yet, but the one would argue that russia has is under me. not under the administrative. defense not under these four star general, that's under me. it's very much a power play inside the kremlin. which by the, way he wouldn't anticipate a frat boy would challenge enemies to a top five. but that's the nature of the testosterone fueled conflicts inside the kremlin. >> it's amazing, on a day where you see th

. >> my thanks to you, congressman jim himes, for joining us live from munich. i appreciate you.e're going to turn now to the apocalyptic scenes out of ohio. it's been over two weeks since a norfolk southern train derailed near east palestine. the stench of dangerous chemicals have not left the small village. residents are still complaining of headaches, irritated eyes, bloody noses, and even finding dying pets. it's been especially painful for the tight-knit community, who felt they had overcome recent problems like the pandemic and a stagnating economy before the trains are derailment. as one woman told the washington post, we were starting to make a comeback. the senate environment of public works committee is planning a hearing soon, quote unquote, for the health and safety concerns in east palestine. nbc news correspondent george soliz has more. liz has more >> the residents here of east palestine still skeptical over some of the mixed messaging from local, state, and federal officials, as far as the quality of their air and water is concerned. mind you, the governor speakin

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congressman jim himes was on "morning joe" talking about a simple way to make sure this doesn't continue to happen. let me play what his thoughts were. >> this is really simple. classified documents should not be out of classified spaces, and it doesn't matter whether they were under a corvette in wilmington or under a beer cooler in mar-a-lago, documents need to stay in classified spaces. number two, clear fact, if you cooperate, you won't have angry looking fbi agents showing up at your door. if you ignore a subpoena, if you lie to the department of justice, you will. that's a fact. and thirdly, you know, part of my frustration here is this is not a huge and difficult problem to solve. we need people to look at the 20 or 30 boxes that leave the white house or naval observatory to make sure there isn't classified information. full stop. solve the problem. >> just have a couple of people go through the documents, go through the boxes before they leave the white house, is it that simple? >> i wish it were that simple. i agree with what the congressman said. nobody can possibly condone hav

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. >> and so you have even loyal democrats, this is jim himes, member of the intelligence community, sayingdying this for several years. we have been studying this issue for years but you're going to shoot down three of them, the president has to explain it. >> i have real concerns about why the administration is not being more forthcoming with everything that it knows. my guess is that there's just not a lot of information out there yet to share. in the absence of information, people's anxiety leads them into potential devuktive areas. >> i was talking to a senate democrat this morning who said that they don't think that the president necessarily has to come out, but they want to see more white house officials out on the airwaves explaining what they know to date, whether it's john kirby from nsc or someone else. the dod, defense department official did say yesterday in part why we're seeing more of these is because there's been more screening, and that's what a number of democrats i have talked to think is happening, which is that the u.s. is being more vigilant about air space, that they

enormous frustration, including some that you played right there from lawmakers, including folks like jim himes supposed to be among the first believed by the white house in what we know in situations like this, that they're not being told more. it's pretty clear the white house doesn't know a lot more that they can say. what we have seen over the weekend is lawmakers in some of the affected states, alaska and michigan, being among the first to be briefed with preliminary information about, you know, the kind of aircraft or weaponry that might have been used to take these oblts out of the sky. beyond that, there's just not more that's known. at least not in a public setting. the house is out this week. the senate is in, and so organizing a classified briefing is the kind of thing that might take some time. there is a prescheduled classified briefing for senators later this week that's supposed to be on russia and the war in ukraine, but if it has dod officials, intelligence community officials, you can bet the lawmakers will be asking about the shoot down, to see what they might be able to be t

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jim himes, ranking member of the house intelligence committee, was on this program last week, takingalls from our viewers. we talked a little bit about the chinese spy balloon in that discussion. he was on nbc's " meet the press" yesterday. [video clip] >> the administration seems to want to downplay these incidents. i mean, the fact that a reporter had to drag us out of the administration, they do not want to be forthcoming. is that because i do not know what it is or they don't want to tell us what it is? >> yeah, i really cannot answer that question because i have not been briefed either. and i do think, by the way, look, i got a very detailed briefing on the first chinese balloon, and i think the decision-making process there was very good. we now own something that we are going to exploit for intelligence. i think the decision-making was good. but i observe for you, as well, that we do not hear about the first balloon until it was over montana. again, there may be reasons for it, and maybe it is because i am in the politics and spend time talking to folks in grocery stores and t