they never it's just joe manchin. he's going to be very independent and how he's always voted for 47 years representing the people of west virginia. and i've done everything i can in my power to make sure that they've got the best representation they can in a balanced way. i've said this if i can go home and explain it, i can vote for it. if i can explain it to my friends and colleagues in west virginia, i can't vote for it. you can put a gun to my head. i'm not going to vote for it. we won't do that. i know. but we will pressure you to come back and give us an answer before the end of the year. happy to do that, senator. thank you so much. good to see you. appreciate it. all right. fresh off the fox business, gop presidential debate, we're going to talk with nikki haley about her run for the white house. accusations that she won't take a clear position on abortion and ask where we should draw the line on us taxpayers. financial commitment to ukraine next, introduce senokot laxative gummies. i'm the easy way to reliev

tritomine out joe manchin, welcome back to fox news sunday.'s talk first your thoughts on the loss of senator feinst feinstein. >> such a beautiful person, really was. and i felt i was embarrassed by some of the more colleagues asking her a month or two or three ago that she should step aside and this and that, there' not a person that served more honorably be then dianne feinstein peter lizon personett trying to bring people together than dianne feinstein. i was there. i had 12-13 years with her, and i could not have had a better role model, you know. you might not have agreed and our politics might've been different but she was so compassionate, so understanding said, "i know you can't get there, joe. i, diane i can meet you halfway i can't go all the way there, and you would find a way to mo move. that's what it is all about how do you find a way to serve people of this great country an also the people that you represent please mark what is consistently what we hear from both sides of the aisle in the wake of her passing through let's talk

what joe manchin was saying. you jump right into the game there. also going after the no labels group threatening to put up a candidate as well. emails that say we need to do everything we can to stop this effort now and not wait until they name a ticket and this becomes a runaway train. they also urge other democrat members to go on the record denouncing a no labels presidential ticket effort. that's a lot to put out there. that spells weakness and vulnerability. >> i don't think it spells weakness. third party candidates like joe manchin or rfk junior would most likely -- >> harris: the man who has been in office for 50 years, vice president for eight and president for four. >> this is just the way our elector y'all system works. we have seen republicans hurt by third party candidacy. they have no chance of winning. our system is a two-party system. if joe manchin wants to support donald trump for president he should come out and say so. every member of the senate thinks they can be president and thinks this he should run for president. it is fla

. >> i think that joe manchin is one of them, that i think stands out because he comes from an energyut he's a democrat, so he knows the challengers. and there is one of the guys that i think is really a great force, but there are many others, we just have to give in general, we are not endorsing anybody. i think we have to give people a chance to emerge. >> senator joe manchin is om west virginia and has only floated the idea as running as a third party residential candidate. you can watch the next republican presidential debate right here on nbc bay ea, that is on november 8th. lester holt, kristen welker will be moderating. and again that is november 8th, 5:00 on nbc bay area. >>> it is not even halloween yet but ski resorts are getting ready to open the season. we will take you to the mountains next. >>> temperatures for the sea area and temperatures cold enough tomorrow morning, the north bay may see some patchy north bay may see some patchy frost to start. how's the chicken? the prawns are delicious. oh, i have a shellfish allergy. one prawn. very good. did i say chicken wrong?

and then you say to joe manchin, jon tester, or tim kaine, you say to all of them, are you reallying upport administration that protects the influence-peddling scheme of joe biden selling access for cash, selling favors for personal enrichment, selling our nation's very security so that he can line his family's pockets with cash? that is an issue that is a loser all day long for the democrat,. and you know how long we know -- how we know it is? if joe biden thought the voters would stand for it, if he thought any of it could be defended, then why did he lie about it again and again and again? because he knew it would be the end of his career. keep on pushing, house. keep on fighting. see the thing through. do not let the washington media intimidate you out of doing what you know is right and just at this moment in history. maria: all right. you named those senators, you called them out. thank you very much, stephen miller, for being here. former white house senior adviser, steven miller. we will catch up soon. thank you, sir. >>> quick break, and then donald trump is said to be the wi

but if it could be joe manchin 's victory, anything was possible.as a result, we got the inflation reduction act. i think it still possible to make some progress. >> i don't fundamentally disagree with anything that was just sad but i actually think looking at the white house for that change is fundamentally upside down. we have to look at ourselves in the mirror. if people voting that create the dynamic we are talking about. i'm a little bit more optimistic than peter because i think swing voters independence are going both ways. the difference in the outcome of the election, this last cycle from what was expected was because of that. areas that have voted for democrats, going back and forth. we are going to need more people to vote. if we have more people voting, our politics would be different. >> thank you very much. >> we are out of time. i see an alum standing there. it's good to see you. welcome back. if it could be a very quick question, will do it. >> sure. i graduated 2009. my question is for secretary lew. something you brought up briefly

often talked about names are former ohio governor john kasich or perhaps west virginia senator joe manchin. but is there anyone that you think would have the effect that they could win outright? perhaps the popular media figure i'm not saying arnold schwarzenegger is thinking about it at all, but i'm just throwing out names of someone that could potentially actually win outright and get support from those who are dissatisfied with both parties nominees. >> it's pretty hard to imagine who that person would be at this moment if they could recruit michelle obama to win, then i think they'd have a real fighting chance. but i think the odds of that happening are quite low and so i think that folks that they are approaching are taking a really hard look at it because the likelihood is not that they're going to go down in history as the first person to win, but that they're likely to be seen as jill stein 2.0 and somebody who helped divide the pro-democracy coalition that democrats need to keep trump away from a second term. and i think that there's a lot of folks that would be really uneasy abou

but if it could be joe joe manchin victory, anything was possible. and as a result, we got there. inflation reduction act. so i think you it's still possible to make progress. yeah, i i don't fundamentally disagree with anything that that was said, but i actually think looking at the white house for that change, fundamentally upside down, you to look at ourselves in the mirror and who it's people voting that creates the the the dynamic we're talking about. and i'm a little more optimistic than because i think swing voters independents are going ways and the difference in the outcome of the elections this last cycle from what was expected was because of that, it you know, areas that have voted for, democrats areas voted, republicans going and forth. i think we're going to need more people to vote if we had more people voting. our politics be different. thank you very much. i think we have we out of time. i think see an alum standing there. so i think if we could sam, if i could. but it's good to see you. welcome back, if it can be a very quick question, we'll do it. sure. so name i

at least in the senate joe manchin, he praised mccarthy, saying he finally realized that you can't reason with unreasonable people. and then, alexandria ocasio-cortez, in the house, said it is not up to democrats to try to save republicans from themselves. >> yeah, fredricka, what democrats do in this situation is going to be the key question. and very possibly could be the determining factor of whether or not kevin mccarthy holds on to the speaker's gavel. democratic leadership has been very coy when asked this question, asked what they would do in a situation of a motion to vacation. they haven't said which way they are leaning but they will remain together as a block as we saw for this government funding bill over the weekend, as we saw during the speaker's race back in january. but this is the nature of, again, the very slim majority that house republicans have this congress. so if just about five republicans decide that they want to oust mccarthy, if all democrats side with them, that could be enough that would likely be enough to confiscate his gavel. but again some democrats are sa

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the project has long had the backing of powerful west virginia senator joe manchin, the biggest recipient of fossil fuel money in congress. and those are some of the headlines. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman in new york, joined by democracy now!'s juan gonzÁlez in chicago. hi, juan. juan: hi, amy. welcome to all of our listeners and viewers from around the country and around the world. amy: the death toll from israel's bombardment of gaza has topped 2800 after israeli air strikes killed at least 71 people in the southern gaza strip. the attacks came just days after israel ordered residents of the northern gaza strip to head south. gaza's civil defense force estimates at least 1000 palestinians remain trapped under rubble from recent israeli strikes. >> the number of martyrs who are under rubble is 1000 according to the figures of the ministry of interior. work is underway to extract them but we do not have heavy machinery to do so. we are exerting individual efforts by personnel with excavators from gaza valley until rafah, only two exc

the truth is, they don't want senators like joe manchin or jon tester who are facing really tough re-elections to be forced to vote on a ukraine stand alone. if the biden team was serious about our defense industrial base by the way, they wouldn't be sucking up to china whose entire goal is to undermine our industrial base. oh, and don't forget, president xi is on putin's side in ukraine. the pair was together enjoying a romantic evening. each other's company in beijing just a few weeks ago. the fact is the pentagon wants a u.s. credit card with no limits and no accountability. >> the department of defense is the only federal agency that has never, in the history of ever, been audited. but your inspector general insisted that he be in charge. do you not see the irony there with respect to ukraine? >> senator, i'm confident that our inspector general will do a great job in -- in making sure that we -- that we remain on track with our responsibilities in ukraine. >> laura: of course, no one believes that i don't think even austin believes that. a blockbuster piece i mentioned briefly last night

. >> trace: writes the following, senators joe manchin, jackie rosen, bob casey, share odd brown facing competitive racing called on biden to freeze the assets, we are talking about iran and the $6 billion, freeze the assets while the u.s. assesses whether iran played a direct role in the attacks. are they right? >> of course they are right. they shouldn't have given the 6 billion to begin with. but then they also should have enforced sanctions that the trump administration put in place to prevent iran from making money on the black market. you know, they had $4 billion in foreign reserves on january 20th, 2021. today they have over $70 billion. so, that money guess a long way. so, yes. i mean of course they should freeze it. i say they should go further than that. they need to talk to qatar, they need to make sure the leader of hamas is extradited. they need to put pressure on everybody in the region and give israel enough space and enough diplomatic cover to do what it needs to do. >> trace: thank you both, gentleman. coming up we'll talk to a man in southern israel who has not heard

. >> i think that joe manchin is one of them that stands out because he's kind of like a center guy,challenges. but he's one of the guys that i think is really a great force. but there's many others. we just have to give, in general, without endorsing anybody, i think we have to give people a chance to emerge. >> senator manchin is from west virginia and has only floated the idea of running as a third-party presidential candidate. you can watch the next presidential debate here on november 8th. lester holt, along with kristen welker, will moderate, as well as hugh hewitt. that's right here on nbc bay area. >>> president biden will issue new executive orders about artificial intelligence today. >> the white house is taking action where congress hasn't. >> that's right, good morning. executive orders from the president, generally, though, have less weight than laws passed by congress. if congress is not going to move, the president says he will. the white house will issue orders today telling companies they must warn the government if the artificial intelligence they're developing pose

> isn't this rather like the situation with the democrats where two members, kristen sinema and joe manchinwer of what can get done in the senate? >> yes. i think it's a great comparison, tyler. so very -- in small majority, small groups of members in each body have outsized influence. that's what we have been seeing really going back to since the election of president biden. with the senate democrats and now with house republicans. >> brian, what would you say that mccarthy's missteps were here going maybe all the way back to january and what lessons should the next speaker draw from that? >> it's easy to second guess and criticize. i think a lot of people are pointing to the deal he made with congressman gaetz and others about the procedures about removing the speaker. government is compromise. it's dirty. it's a dirty exercise. it's a hard exercise. and that compromise was necessary for him to get the speaker's gavel. and if he didn't make that deal, somebody else would have so we'd still be in this situation. i think a little bit more outreach to democrats may be just toning down the rh

fungible which is why you have jon tester after a difficult race and john and tremont tina and joe manchinthe skin of his teeth in west virginia. the democrats and we need to reimpose and freeze innovative would you reimpose the freeze, there's no guarantee that qatar will actually help us freeze it. going forward we need to take a look at what that you is doing and blocking any future humanitarian aid to palestine and iran. maria: i think we have to be careful to understand it is not just the $6 billion. it is the appeasement of day one from this administration allowing all the black oil on the black market. easing sanctions, it is all supportive of iran and when this president walked into the oval office. maria: century mentioned oil one thing is true, that is whenever oil approaches $100 a barrel, there are aggressive geopolitical moves that happen. you can go back to august of 2008, russia into georgia, february of 13, russia into crimea, 22 into ukraine. brent hit 97 bucks on september 27. what that does that funds the terrorist nations and gives them an opportunity to make the aggres

democratic senator joe manchin also taking his time to consider a candidacy. >> what's your timeline? >> well, i said before the end of the year. i will. >> uaw, saved the automobile industry. >> president biden is hoping to lock down labor union support as another huge strike of kaiser permanente healthcare workers could come this week. >> peter: is he okay with 75,000 healthcare workers possibly walking off the job this week? >> what i can tell you is that -- we have said this many times already this morning, the president believes all workers, all workers, including healthcare workers and those that make their work possible, they deserve a fair pay. and they deserve a fair benefit. >> peter: president biden's son, hunter, is back in court tomorrow to be arraigned on three felonies related it buying a gun allegedly while on drugs. while addicted to drugs. the last time that this happened and he was in court, there were reports that aides here at the white house cleared president biden's schedule so he could keep tabs on the proceedings. they haven't told us what he is going to be up

jim justice, the governor of west virginia running against joe manchin in the big senate race.congressman jeff van drew made a party switch under president trump. there are a lot of folks that have fit that bill. erik johnson is the most interesting one of all because he is the mayor of one of the biggest cities in the country. i don't think republicans have a mayor in one of the top 20 cities in the united states. erik johnson immediately has a chance to show how a republican -- he is already very popular and can show how republican governance can make a difference in an important state. texas is a pretty republican state. i have a feeling he could be on the short list for governor, senate, higher office as an african-american republican governing one of the biggest and most important cities in the country. >> bill: he is someone to watch for sure. hillary clinton sat down with cnn and let it rip, josh. at one point saying trump, the alternative to end our democracy. i don't say that lightly. she -- perhaps she has a new phrase for deplorables. >> sadly, so many of those extre

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anybody from joe manchin, larry hogan, you hear names. joe lieberman is part of this thing.becomes. there is an internal battle. it is a fragile coalition let's say. if you're thinking about going no labels in the future i'm telling you this thing might not get off the ground because what happened at 7:00 during that call. it is a fragile coalition. i want to switch gears to blackrock. interesting. i was at a semifor conference the other night with my producer ellie. we have listened to some of the speakers. one speaker was interesting. semifors is new publication, covers a lot of finance and public politics, started by ben smith, long-time journalist used to run "buzzfeed" at "new york times." at semifor, gary cohn, former number two, worked with trump at the nec. one that caught my eye is mark weed man. the guy head of client relations, head of client for blackrock the big money management firm. a likely, i shouldn't say likely, possible successor to larry fink when he retires, if he retires. you never know, larry is 70 and still going strong. they asked him about esg. you

i mean, the ones people talk about of course are democratic senator joe manchin from west virginia, thevernor, republican governor of maryland, larry hogan. i don't know. >> martha: do you see either one of those people generating a significant following? >> sandra: no. the issue is that trump and biden are two historically unpopular leaders of their party. joe biden has massive problems with independents and democrats and trump has huge problems, he brings out a lot of democrats. so that is the gap. that's the opening. that's where i -- 2024 will be such a year of unbelievable uncertainty. >> martha: yeah. i completely agree with you. i think anyone thinks this is set may be in for a big surprise. i'm not sure what that catalyst will be. i think you're absolutely right, that we should all be alert to see how it shakes out. a majority of people don't want biden or trump based on the polling. we'll see where it goes. thanks, ari. >> thanks, martha. >> martha: podcaster joe rogan expressing some displeasure with the valuation of trump's mar-a-largo megahome. it's also a club. and the $250

setting up a bipartisan ticket as an alternative widely expected to play a role is democratic senator joe manchind on "fox news sunday" he is not making any announcement right now. he said people should have options. joe lieberman helping in the effort. the president responded to it this weekend. >> president biden: he has a democratic right to do it. there is no reason not to do that. it is going to help the other guy and he knows it. so that doesn't -- that's a political decision he is making that i think is a mistake obviously but he has a right to do that. >> this weekend congressman dean phillips stepping down from his role in the house democratic leadership because he also joined the calls for some other candidate to be a choice on the ballot for democrati

i look at the joe manchin quote here saying i look forward to supporting his nomination for ambassador and it's essential the senate act on the nomination quickly. do you have the votes? >> i don't know if we do or not, bill. we'll see not just in the committee. when it goes to the full senate. if this war against america in the middle east continues -- it is not just a war against israel. october 7th attacks by hamas one of iran's proxies was one of the worst attacks on america since 9/11 and they have attacked our position in the middle east morneau a dozen times. some democrats might want to reconsider our policy towards iran. they can't run away from a weak and unpopular president fast enough. >> dana: while you are speaking president biden is welcoming the australian prime minister to the white house. a little bit there will be a press conference. we'll take 2 and 2. in the meantime bari weiss saying there was no uproar at the time in response to the journalistic mal practice -- talking about the hospital report -- at least not in public. perhaps expressed concerns privately for f

joe manchin -- >> yes. west virginia, democrat, said seal the border, let's get the ones who are in, 3 million of them, on the path to citizenship. they can fill jobs here that americans don't want to fill. but what is your idea? >> i agree with the first half of what he said, i disagree with the second half. sealing the southern border and the northern border too, liz. this is ignored. that has to be the correct step of the next commander in chief. i visited the northern border just a few days ago. to call that porous is an overstatement. that is completely open. and when we look at the dangers of terror cells potentially in the united states, this is a national security issue for america. and so one of the questions even as this relates to the israel question, we need to get to the bottom of what the heck happened with the failure of u.s. and israeli intelligence that allowed a disaster like this to unfold. if some have said that's a question for later, i think it's a question for now. but the wake-up cal

west virginia senator joe manchin is calling for a state of emergency at the southern border, tellingal far left democrats in washington have to come to grips with the fact that we have to shut down the border. joining me is north dakota governor and presidential candidate doug bergham. it's great to see you. thank you for being here. >> thanks for having me on. maria: where do you stand on this issue? >> this they is just crazy. joe biden has been pouring gas on the border crisis for two and-a-half years and then now some people are saying, hey, we've got a state of emergency. i mean, think about it. since joe biden took office over 6 and-a-half million people have been papered as asylum seekers, that's every man, woman and child in the population of maine, new hampshire, delaware, montana, that's 6 and-a-half million people that are known to come into the country. you wouldn't have known anything about that until we had liberal mayors saying they couldn't handle it anymore he didn't do anything when he had governors from arizona and texas saying we have issues down here. they turned

>> well, i think joe manchin is one of them that i think stands out because he's like a center guy.s from an energy state that is a democrat, so he knows the challenges and all of that, but he's one of the guys that i think is really a great force, but there's many others. we just have to give, in general, without endorsing anybody, i think we have to give people a chance to emerge. >> you have said you would run for president if you could. do you think you would be a better president than any of the candidates running right now? >> you know, i think that i have the ability of bringing people together. i have the ability of talking about issues without villainizing the other side because there are people that think differently than i do, but they're not evil. they're not terrible people. you know, they're good people that mean well, so, therefore, i would say we have to be able to bring people together and let everyone know they are very important to be part of the team and for us to be successful. >> does it frustrate you that you can't run for the nation's highest office? >> no, b

. >> sandra: democrat senator joe manchin calling out president biden's handling of the border crisis. >> the administration, the president has to say enough is enough. ok. and by what trump did, he basically declared a state of emergency. it's nothing wrong with declaring a state of emergency. >> president biden should declare a state of emergency? >> in a heartbeat and shut it down tight. you have to build the wall. there are areas we need the wall. >> sandra: the former president, donald trump, seems to be having a bit of a victory lap, posting on social media he will wait for president biden's apology. >> president trump kind of took a victory lap, it's true, he said joe biden is changing his policies here because he's watching the country be invaded. he said biden sees our country being invaded and what is he going to do about the 15 million people from what he said prisons, mental institutions, insane asylums and terrorists that have already come into this country. 2020 campaign, president biden continued to say the first day in office he would completely reverse trump's border

helped for example limit fossil fuel burning by utilities were stripped out by that 50th vote by joe manchintter bill because essentially they did not have the votes in the senate to get that. >> manchin gained up with the republicans who are party full of climate deniers. they've ramaswamy on the debate stage let me that co2 in the atmosphere is down low levels. how he responded nonsense like that? >> it is funny because i came across that a week ago. it says something like the co2 levels in the atmosphere are lower, than all of human existence. and then she gently pointed out on twitter that in fact you had to go all the way back until early hamman it's were roaming the african savannah back in 4 million years ago to find co2 levels naturally that were as high as they are today. so they got a completely wrong but more importantly what he got wrong was it isn't the level of carpenter accidental atmosphere or even the absolute warmth of the planet. we have seen times in the deep geological past, i talk about the surfaces where it was higher, where it is the rate of warming unprecedented for

joe manchin was asked why it has been harder to sell funding for ukraine to the general public. >> which about the border or about ukraine? are you concerned about the high cost and inflation or ukraine? people say, wait a minute, that's second on my list or third on my list. >> how do you fix this politically? >> senator manchin is right, this is a false choice. republicans should admit that we can both address the crisis at the border and support ukraine in its war against russia. but this is a problem in the republican party right now. there are a lot of people who are becoming isolationists. this conservative populism has pushed a lot of republicans to look inward instead of promoting a robust leadership role for the u.s. across the world. republicans will take advantage of this crisis at the border to try to get some concessions from the administration on immigration policy. i think they will be successful. having said that, i don't think they should couple the two issues. we should support ukraine, and we should also do something at the border. >> talking about crises, what's going

will probably nominate joe manchin. we as a country, you know, freedom is not free, right?r bodies and souls on the line for this great country. clearly, we're going to have to have fiscal retrenchment, we're going to have to sacrifice. we're going to have to cut spending. we're going to have to deal with entitlements. we're going to have to change social security. we're going to have to limit medicare and medicaid. we're going to have to raise taxes on the very wealthy. we're going to have to unequivocally raise taxes. the united states right now has the fifth lowest tax take out of 40 oecd countries. there's plenty of room for to us raise taxes. >> would you have shut down the government? were you with those guys who said, we need to take distraction measures. they say the same thing about the $33 trillion, and we'll never get anywhere. >> the problem with them is that they only look at one side of the equation, which is that we have to cut spending. they are unwilling to talk about the other side of the equation, which is, we're going to have to raise taxes. you cannot d

if the if the inflation reduction act was always going to be in the hands of joe manchin, then what does it matter what i do politically, leigh, in afghanistan, i can do what i want and partizan polarization, some terrible consequences for american foreign policy, right. the iran deal, the the the pull out of the iran deal and the inability to credibly commit long term. so i don't mean to be imply that it's a good thing but i think this is maybe i don't even know if we know if it's an upside or downside, but a consequence of polarization is we democrats can sort of beat democrats on foreign policy if they want to be and a consequence of trump because it's harder to argue i'm sorry that we're in a partizanship here, but it's harder to argue that. the republicans have some more responsible and credible voice on foreign policy after four years of donald trump that that image is so sticky we lost the other. yeah, they still can. they do. and they. and that makes no sense and i'd like to study that someday. yeah, sure. so it's kind of had a dream where i didn't have to say anything really at

so thank you for your patience and your time period i have been asked to read senator joe manchin of west virginia sent us attacks and ivan asked to read that text. so bear with me. it's from senator manchin. i appreciate the opportunity to celebrate the 25th anniversary of the international religious freedom act. my wife and former chair of the commission on international religious freedom and i are undeniably committed to advancing religious freedom for people in the united states and throughout the world. freedom of religion as a bedrock principle of our democracy and the foundation of a free and prosperous society. the founding fathers understood religious freedom to be a universal human right for everyone. oftentimes we can take our right to practice religion freely for granted. as you know there are been several acts of violence committed against religious can reduce here in the united states and across the world in the wake of the ongoing conflict between israel and terrorist groups in the gaza strip. anti-semitism is fundamental to the principle of hamas, whose heinous attack

could talk to bernie's people, you can talk to aoc people, but what's it like, you know, you had joe manchin the show. what's that look like from your because i've always been curious and the second question is, in a state like new york, in a state like california, it's even like state like new jersey. this problem of the media markets are so expensive especially in california how you run a statewide race and have a progressive incumbent. i mean, gavin newsom climbed that ladder one by one. and, you know, him and nancy pelosi and feinstein, it's like they took years to get, you know, to achieve that return on investment, as you call it, to get the money to run statewide campaign. how is it even possible? it's not delaware. you can't go door to door. there's too many people. it's too expensive. so i want your thoughts on both of those things. yeah, those are great questions. and the second one is incredibly difficult. so let's get let's do access first. so i remember when i was on msnbc, i said, all right, let's do this segment. and and then and i and we don't need a guest for that one. i'll