on a monday morning in june, a man did not report to work named joe moore.n investigation it was found that there was a locked house with all the windows covered and eight people murdered with an ax. this was immediately linked within an hour to what we now call a serial murder, although the term wasn't used then. it was immediately recognized that this was another of those cases. brian: have you been to that town? bill: i have, yes. brian: what is it like today? bill: the interior of the town has not done terrifically. a lot of the highway went a half-mile outside of town, and the general store moved to the edge of town, that sort of thing. but it is still a quiet, peaceful little place, or it is quiet and peaceful little place. brian: that murder, has anybody ever been found or prosecuted for the murder back in those days? bill: at the time there were two were three what i would consider bogus prosecutions. a man was arrested and intimidated and beaten and put on trial, indicted for the murders, but the indictment was dropped because there was really no ev

kyra, kerri wooden, mum of seven—year—old logan, shelley porter, mum of eight—year—old cruise, joe james—mooreuiet about it at first. not that anyone necessarily says anything to me that you can feel the pressure. and cruz is the odd one out, the troublemaker. i didn't talk to other parents about it but i felt the stigma attached to him. what about you? there stigma attached to him. what about you ? there is stigma attached to him. what about you? there is a stigma for your child? definitely. you do feel singled out, your child feels singled out, your child feels singled out. because it has been dealt with, parents look at you in a certain way. as though you are a bad parent? yes. they might come to you and say your child has done this or that. i get that a lot. i did at the mainstream school. it is really heartbreaking. trying to explain to them as well. there are other things prior to that. education was more needed and that is why the behaviour side of things was out there. it is really ha rd side of things was out there. it is really hard to try and say that. did you feel a stigma for loga

moore. they're excited that joe arpaio is running for the senate. are fighting for health care, fighting for fair wages for everyone, fighting for the right to organize, fighting for women. >> do you think you'll message on the rob porter issue that has come up? >> the headline of rob porter is the tip of the iceberg. what it illustrates is that they just don't believe women. donald trump attacks the women who come forward. they attack the women. and it was only a photograph that finally made them believe rob porter, roy moore, the notion you would support judge moore invest money, they don't believe women. that's one of the many reasons why republicans are not winning these elections. because they're morally bankrupt. i'll take our situation over theirs any day of the week because we are on the right side of the issues. >> tom perez, we have to leave it there. will you come back and talk more midterms and democrats with us? >> you bet. >> thank you very much. coming up after the break, we want to talk about the winter olympics and those halting mil

america open the county sheriff joe arpaio who's running for the open seat in in arizona many in the republican establishment are worried that they might have another roy moore situation where things are going to have to do you think trump would endorse him well i don't know if the president is going to endorse. the sheriff. who is very controversial and certainly someone who has national mayme id i don't know if the folks of arizona necessarily like all the tactics tactics that he's taken i think we're going to have to see and we're going to have to see how he campaigns what kind of promises he makes to his constituents made with these happy to welcome you to politicking a third white house official resigned after being told he wouldn't qualify for full clearance it was national economic council george david banks what he and then of course you got the rub porter situation what's your reaction to all that's going on in the white house in a it's very indicative of the chaos that we've seen since day one this white house has been incredibly embarrassing a national disgrace if you will if you've seen just the revolving door of individuals coming in and out who

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> momentarily fumbled >> the president was much better in the joe kernen interview, which i thought was terrific art laughfer and steve moorehis subject. we don't want the dollar to fall >> shouldn't a stronger economy help the dollar? >> yes, and it's a bit of a puzzle why that hasn't happened. and we don't want the administration or the treasury to talk down the dollar. you know who did this best a democrat robert rubin treasury secretary in clinton's second term. he was the best. a strong currency is in the nation's best interest so look. if the dollar keeps falling from here, then i think the fed has to take some action. they're going to have to absorb more reserves. close the balance sheet down let the rates ride up on the short end. you cannot -- look, it's inflationary it causes financial bubbles. it causes interest rates to go up no one is ever devalued their currency into a serious -- >> prosperity. >> i think this and protectionism, i'm going to call them question marks. i'm not saying they're going to bring the house down i don't know that. let the tax rate reduction and let the deregulation work its magic on the

joe fatone, i think they are pulling for the eagles. i hope they are. they put purpole stuff on rocky. this the famous mary tyler moore statue. everybody throws up their hat. you have to do it when you come down here even on a cold day. i wouldn't be surprised to e see that wearing a carson wentz jersey this weekend. back to you. . >> i think mary tyler moore was during the eagles cap. >> i can probably pull that off. >> it's too cold. put it back on. >> at least you didn't ask justin about that philadelphia preference. you left that to the other reporters. >> i tried. >> timberlake maybe rooting for tom brady. we know that now. but it turns out listen b to this, most people. want the eagles to win the super bowl. that's according to a new university poll about 4 in 10 will be rooting for the eagles. now fewer than 2 in 10 want to see the patriots win. only a fifth of people polled are really excited about this year's matchup. a lot of people expecting commercials to be more interesting than the action on the field. but do not tell that to the team. john clark was there as he talked to the team. >> there's some chatter about

joe. this is what we've seen time and time from the president, whether it's defending bill o'reilly, defending roy mooreent, his reflex is to see in these men. and for somebody who has a persecution complex, who sees victimization everywhere he looks, people out to get him, this is what we've come to expect from this president. the president wasn't aware of the allegations against rob porter, and that really raises questions about just what type of information is getting to this president. if they were keeping this from him, what else might they be keeping from him. rob porter's job is critical to the information flow in the white house. the reason john kelly found him so indispensable and the reason john kelly defended him time and time again up until he was forced, basically, to fire him is that rob porter kept information from getting to the president. when people would slip the president articles from conspiracy theory type web sites like info wars or got news and -- these articles that would rile up the president, it was rob porter's job to keep those away from him and he did by all accounts a pret