he would meet with john brown. some accounts suggest john brown tried to sweettalk frederick douglass into joining the attack on harpers ferry. doesn't do it, of course. throughout the year, throughout the summer in particular, brown and his cohorts are bringing in large shipments of goods on the cumberland valley railroad. he calls himself dr. isaac smith. he has been telling the good people of cumberland valley, he is a miner looking for possible ion ore mines. he's been bringing in supplies, the bills of lading are things like picks and axes when in reality they are muskets and pikes. they were used to go down to maryland and set up headquarters at the kennedy farm, and then in october 1859, john brown and his men will raid. some of the raiders after the raid come back to the cumberland valley and tried to catch the railroad to get out of the valley. a number of them would be captured near the cumberland valley railroad station in scotland, pennsylvania where some of the raiders are captured. one will manage to

as historians it often changes over time and john brown is a great example of that. how are your people making their cases? >> i can tell you mine. i have found no other group of people that have a moral sort of -- for using violence. they talk about american hypocrisy. about the american revolution being uncomplete. the haitian revolution is where the real evolution takes place because they freed their slaves and put in place equality. i think black abolition are saying slavery is wrong and we have a moral authority, a god-given right and that's important when they can solidify their tenancy with biblical sentiments? they're using biblical allegories to justify using violence and force. and they're using revolutionary language -- i love the idea. i talk about this idea that violence is a political language. he who would be free must strike the first blow. they're using this language over and over to threaten and provoke, you know, the abolition of slavery and they feel justified in that because they feel they are most oppressed. again, it's easy to look at this from

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secondly they started singing what they started singing was john brown's body. ching martin june 1 of the persons accompanied her was the minister you know here you could do better job than that that is denigrating to john brown. can she process that in that night when she went back to the hotel she woke up in the middle of the night grab some paper and started writing. writing and writing a poem on scraps of paper. the next morning when she got up she'd made a few tweaks to it, but basically it was what it was going to be, the battle hymn of the republic. she had it published a little bit later the first of the next year, and harper's weekly. it took off. soldiers were singing as they marched, civilians were moved by its lyrics, and it's finally bringing to the forefront what the union because was really about. the cause of the beginning was bringing the union back together that may be a fine unifying argument, but hardly raises people's spirits. when she talked about dying to set men free, suddenly the whole purpose of the war took on a new tone. that coupled

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that's really kind of denigrating to john brown. she postal service that and when she went back to the hotel she woke up in the mid of the night, grabbed some paper and started writing, writing, poem on scraps of paper. then he next morning she made a few tweaks to it but basically it was what it was going to be. the battle hymn of the republic. was pushed a little later, the first of the next year, and harper's weekly. it took off. soldiers were singing it as they marched. civilians were moved by its lyrics and its finally bringing to the forefront what the union cause was really about. at the beginning of the war the cause was to some extent bringing the union back together. that i may be a fine unifying argument but hardly raise people's spirit. when she talked but dying to set men free, suddenly the whole purpose of the war took on a new tone. that coupled with the emancipation proclamation set the union off on a new track. the next person i want to talk but very briefly is claire are barton. we tend to think of clara barton as

it effectively started the violence in the kansas territory in 1856, where you remember john brown, of course, and the border ruffians from missouri, fighting it out in the kansas territory over whether kansas will become a slave state or not. this ultimately leads to violence on the senate floor, when senator charles sumner is caned on the floor of the senate in may of 1856. past that, it just accelerates toward the first secession of a state in december of 1860, south carolina. so the kansas-nebraska act is to -- is significant because it is effectively the trigger for the violence that spirals. -- spirals into those secession of the first date in 18 60 after the election of abraham lincoln in november of that year. matt, would you like to add to that? guest: there is a lot there. i would simply add that the act also accelerated the demise of the whig party and led to the rise of the republican party which was a regional party. the republican party was not represented in the south. it was the election of the republican president, abraham lincoln, without southern electoral votes that

john brown's attempt to take over harpers ferry and start a slave rebellion does not exactly work, but it does upset a lot of people and gets people talking about the slavery issue. and, they should have been. there certainly talking about it in illinois in 1858. douglas was running for the third term in the senate and he is national figure, and the republican party in illinois did something that traditionally parties to not do. at the state convention they endorsed their own candidate for the u.s. senate and it was lincoln. douglas new from 20 years experience how tough it was going to be to take on lincoln and lincoln starts following him around illinois when he finishes speaking and finally they agreed to a set of seven debates and in the course of these debates lincoln is already getting some traction nationally and he has gotten votes in the 1856 republican convention but in 1858 he has rocketed to stardom and is taking on douglas. douglas, for his part, winds reelection thanks to something we have all heard plenty about. gerrymandering. the 1850 legislative district were still in

rams to rescue people caught up in what they saw as an unjust system, to be a radical, to be a john brownin the 1850s and the republican party was home to a number of people, radical factions who were deeply engaged with john brown as conspirators, as fundraisers and it's notalways a secret six , brown bought a lot of rank-and-file republicans to make donations, who argued and apotheosis radical heroes, and brown had been executed as a traitor. to be a radical, to lean into that idea and when shortly afterharpers ferry was taken down , to be a radical republican meant to be in favor of a hard war, to be in favor of a war that was not in and to be resolved quickly with demand so much of the nation that people became willing to confront slavery and to terminate it and so for the radical republicans in the words of ralph waldo emerson who was a radical, it's a good doctor but bad is sometimes better and the anatomy of the nation was the only way that we were going to address these on themental issues . >> to view the rest of this talk visit our website, booktv.org and type liana keith or the

an 1850 the republican party was home to another people in a radical faction deeply engaged with john brownret six to become famous co-conspirators there's the file that how can sin the donation to argue in favor of brown. click copy the other sides brown is a hero, harper's of theory has been raised and perpetrated. to be a radicals to lean into that idea and when shortly after harpers ferry nation started taking down road to be radical republican men to be in favor of hardware or a war that would not and be resolved quickly. but would demand so much of the nation that people became willing to fight slavery and terminated. the radical republicans in the words of ralph emerson who was a radical, it's a good dr., but bad is sometimes better. the agony of the nation's civil war was the only way that we are to address these fundamental issues. >> to view the reentrant rest of the top got our website tv.org. type in the title of its book when it was grand in the search box at the top of the page. lunch & gratitude to all of our essential workers and first responses across the

but there is a wllot going on i6 nationally to where he's saided in 1860.nsas john brown had been in kansas t and he goes to virginia, attacks the harper's ferry arsenal or takes it over, is thrown back p out and put on trial for treaso against the state of virginia, convicted and sentenced to be g hanged. and southerns are convinced this is all a republican plot.a the parties behind this. and there are a few republicans and some areresome abolitionis affiliated with the republicans and not from the standpoint of being members of the republican party any way, who did help brown. but most republicans are taking the position, no, we don't go for the violent result.for we are not in favor of what this guy did. anybody here who has lived up i the bay area? lake merced gets its moment in the sun. david brodderic was a senator from california. and a douglas man. big douglas supporter, big believer in popular sovereignty. now, remember when california ca came in the union,li the idea w it was a free state, vote with thewo northern free states. in fact, there were southerners who came to cal

it was designed by john browning, and it is going to become the standard issue, very popular pistol that is going to be issued to many u.s. army personnel. in the museum, we try to build in environmental challenges that the u.s. faced, our forces faced around the world in world war ii. and so in north africa, of course, the desert is as big of a challenge as the enemy at times. and so, what we have here in the gallery is an environmental treatment that not only shows the rocky deserts that we are going to be fighting in, but also katharina pass, -- caserine pass, the battle in february of 1943 where the united states is, unfortunately, going to be very, very badly whipped by the germans in the desert. many of our viewers may remember the famous scene in the movie "patton," where george patton is brought into to try to reorganize american forces to fight in the desert and beat the germans. in this case here, we have a tricolor french flag. many americans and others don't realize that when we landed in morocco and north africa, the french vichy government was allied with nazi germany. and

it was designed by john brown and it will become the standard issue very popular pistol that is going to be issued to many u.s. army personnel. in the museum, we try to build in an environmental challenge that the u.s. faced, our forces faced around the world and world war ii and so, in north africa of course, the desert is as big of a challenge as the enemy at times. what we have here in the gallery is an environmental treatment that not only shows the rocky desert that we are going to be fighting in, but also catherine paths, battle february 1943 where the united states is on fortunately going to be very battle whipped by the germans in the desert many must remember the famous scene in the movie paton, where george patents brought in trying to reorganize american forces, a fight in the desert and beat the germans. in this case here, we have a try color french flag. many americans and alert others don't realize that when we landed in north africa, the french government was allied with nazi germany. so we actually did have to do some fighting against the french with the initial landin

april 8th, lee with have a conference john brown and gordon, longstreet. lee's lastto be military conference. they discuss a possibility of breaking out from appomattox courthouse. citizens made to break out of the union line. that this point only troops in front of him are calvary. gordon troops can push them aside and lee can continue with retreat. on the morning of april 9th, off third letter to lee at about day break. had to tell lethal since he has no authority to treat on peace, the minute proposede meet lee april 9th at 10:00, can lead good. now lay knows no official meeting with grant unless he now for it.ally ask but battle at the appomattox begin 5:00 ine the morning of april 9th. to clear lynchburg road and then to calvary. it's backed up by infantry ce of federal infantry. the general army was approaching ant fifth core from the -- army under appomattox under griffin is approaching. gordon is going to be stopped and driven back. the morning,in longstreet called to lee's headquarters. according to longstreet he and at the burned rails. once in f

. >> i think some of this can be explained in a way through the recent rehabilitation of john brown and the fact that he is now being reintroduced into the american cannon as the most american of all heroes, when that would seem like in, part because of the aftermath of the civil war and the white supremacist efforts and he was considered quite a radical. now, to have him discussed as at the forefront of american liberty is kind of a remarkable moment. i wonder what might say about the people who are understanding here or putting him back into the american cannon and that way, what do they think about political violence if they're making jon brown their patron saint? >> just to pick up on that as well. it's interesting that we're seeing the main strain of that jon brown idea and the people that have most often in the recent past compare themselves to john brown have been those attacking abortion clinics and abortion providers. that is this very specific form of political violence that they don't see themselves acting within the tradition of. >> one of the words that keep coming up, legi

john brown, the medical director of the san francisco e.m.s. agency. this is national e.m.s. week. it is an opportunity for all of us to take a moment and to celebrate the e.m.s. providers throughout the country. i want to take this moment and this time to thank all the e.m.s. providers in san francisco. who have gone way beyond your normal level of excellent care for our patients in this difficult situation. as the covid-19 pandemic spread across the globe and we prepared to respond to this disaster, you stepped up to be an integral part of that response. you wore cumbersome p.p.e. and adapted to changes in our protocols on a very rapid basis. and you were treating more and more paishlgts that were anxious and upset with professional and calm demeanor. your commitment to this e.m.s. system is truly extraordinary. additionally, you helped us to push our care along even further to get to the goals such as our caddy program to improve distribution to hospitals and about to start our lucas device program to improve the care for cardiac arrest patients. this is amazing to push e.m.s. c

could be radical meant to be john brown is. it's not only the secret six that become famous.lso a lot of rank-and-file republicans who made their nations to argue in favor of grants. once they had been stage and brown's had been executed as a traitor. being radical meant to lean into that idea and when shortly after harper's ship period taken on the war arose to write matter quote radical republican meant to be in favor of hard work to be in favor of a war that would not and and be resolved quickly but would demand so much of the nation that people became willing to confront slavery and terminate it. for the radical republicans in the words of emerson who was a radical good is a good doctor data sometimes better. and the agony of the nation and the civil war was the only way we were going to address these fundamental issues. as the work is underway being radical also means to support the idea of military emancipation. first to the policies they call the contraband policy which recognized property place and yet said that people brought into the facility military operations bei

briefly married to film producer robert evans, a year later, she married a kentucky businessman john brown ceremony hosted by the clintons. days later brown decided to run for governor. he fauld called phyllis george his greatest asset in the campaign and in office after winning. now the first lady of kentucky george was a frequent guest on "the tonight show" with johnny carson. >> it's inner related. show business very much like politics and vice-versa, because you want the public to like you. you are trying to do and say the right things. >> reporter: the governor and first lady had two children a son lincoln and daughter pamela. lincoln became an entrepreneur, pamela is a cnn senior white house correspondent. george turned from sports to news, co-hosting the ""cbs this morning" program." her life was wide ranging, a business woman and even a singer on the muppets ♪ a card and paper under your heart." >> she wrote a people famous people giving advice on what you can't give up. but she even had a small part, including a back seat wild ride behind ben stiller in the movie "meet the parents

those articles are still left over from the civil war. 8 at night, lee would have a conference with john brown gordon, longstreet, and fitzhugh lee. it is going to be lays last military conference. -- lee's last. they discussed breaking out from appomattox courthouse. the decision is made to break out from the encircling union line. leave leave the only troops in front of him our cavalry. -- lee believes. and that they can push them aside and continue with retreat. grant morning of april 9, would send a third letter to lead at daybreak. grant pastor talley that since he has no authority to treat on the subject of peace, the meeting lee proposed for april 9 at 10:00, could lead to no good. and grant is going to cancel it. -- grant has to tell lee. now lee knows there is no meeting with grant unless he specifically asks for it. the battle of appomattox courthouse will begin at 5:00 in the morning of april 9. [indiscernible] to clear the lynchburg road. up byey find it is backed a strong force of federal infantry. the army of the james is approaching and the fifth corps of the army of the potomac

and people like john brown who killed people who disagree with him because he can. appalachia had been settled by those with scotch irish roots and that created a culture that was filled with endemic violence and retribution of justice. individuals were the guardians of their own interest. self sovereignty kept the order. that is the culture they are coming from and war presented an opportunity for that concept to multiply unrestrained. law and order stood breaking down and suddenly, what is already there is bubbling up to the surface. you have a bunch of weapons in circulation that were manufactured for the war and it is a lot easier to get your hands on a weapon or multiple weapons. all of that went into it as well. wrote, he wrote a book about something a little bit later than what we are discussing but he noted that shock value always has a larger -- a longer shelf life than tedious detail. that is true about the guerrilla warfare and the outlaw out stories after the war. these stories were so violent and shocking to people that they are passed down from generat

in 1979 she married john brown jr. kentucky's first lady after helping her husband win the race for governor. her loss is particularly heartfelt here at cnn, she was the mother of our senior white house correspondent pamela brown. phyllis george was just 70 years old. we'll be right back. now is the time for a new bath from bath fitter. every bath fitter bath is installed quickly, safely, and beautifully, with a lifetime warranty. go from old to new. from worn to wow. the beautiful bath you've always wanted, done right, installed by one expert technician, all in one day. we've been creating moments like these for 35 years, and we're here to help you get started. book your free virtual or in-home design consultation today. robinwithout the commission fees. so, you can start investing today wherever you are - even hanging with your dog. so, what are you waiting for? download now and get your first stock on us. robinhood. ♪[ siren ] & doug give me your hand! i can save you... lots of money with liberty mutual! we customiz

by 1860, the south believed that the north was filled with abolitionist of the john brown stripe, that the republican party was an abolitionist party , and that abraham lincoln was the leading abolitionist in the country. none of it was true, but people believed it. i think the third conclusion was is that -- and we hear a lot in any popular discussion you have with my students or others that they would take away the state'' rights. in looking at these amendments, it turns out that southerners like jefferson davis, andrew johnson, and others were perfectly willing and proposed trading state authority for federal authority. the issue was not about states rights. it was about property rights. i think the 67 amendments that we published in the book make that point fairly clear. i've got a couple of other points. i think i may weave them into my answers to your questions. so i am going to stop at that point and open the floor. dave has a microphone and he will be selecting the questionnaires. all i have to do is think of some creative answer. [laughter] >> well, first, thank you for your 3

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a year later married kentucky businessman john brown, ceremony hosted by the clintons.s later brown decided to run for governor. he called phyllis george his greatest asset, and the campaign and in office after winning. >> welcome phyllis george. [ applause ] >> reporter: now the first lady of kentucky, george was a frequent guest on "the tonight show with johnny carson" rnts int. >> interrelated like politics and vice versa. you want the public to like you, trying to do and say the right things. >> reporter: the governor and first lady had two children. a son lincoln and a daughter pamela. lincoln became an entrepreneur. pamela is a cnn senior white house correspondent. >> and i'm phyllis george -- >> reporter: george turned to sports to news co-hosting the cbs morning program. george's post of daily tv life was wide ranging. business woman and even a singer on "the muppet" ♪ under your heart >> reporter: wrote a book offering famous people giving advice why you can't give up. >> now -- >> reporter: and a small part in clined a back seat wild ride behind ben stiller in

a year later, she married kentucky businessman john brown. a ceremony hosted by the clintons.st days later, brown decided to run for governor. he called phyllis george his greatest asset, in the campaign and in office after winning. >> would you welcome phyllis george. [ applause ] >> reporter: now the first lady of kentucky, george was a frequent guest on "the tonight show with johnny carson." >> it's interrelated, and show biz is very much like politics and vice versa, because you want the public to like you. you're trying to do and say the right things. >> reporter: the governor and first lady had two children, a son, lincoln, and a daughter, pamela. lincoln became an entrepreneur. pamela is a cnn senior white house correspondent. >> i'm bill kurtis. >> and i'm phyllis george. in this half hour -- >> reporter: george turned from sports to news, co-hosting the cbs morning program. george's post-daily tv life was wide-ranging -- a business woman and even a singer on "the muppets." ♪ you put a piece of carbon paper under your heart ♪ >> reporter: she wrote a book offering famo

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it effectively started the violence in the kansas territory in 1856, where you remember john brown and the border ruffians from missouri are fighting it out in the kansas territory over whether kansas will become a slave state or not, ultimately leading to violence on the senate floor with senator sumner, and was caned on the ofor of the senate in may 1856, and passed that, it just accelerates toward the first recession of estate in december of 1860, south carolina. the kansas-nebraska act is significant because it is effectively the trigger for the violence that spirals into those secession of the first state in 1860 after the election of abraham lincoln in november of that year. matt, do you want to add? guest: there is a lot there. i would simply add the kansas-nebraska act accelerated the demise of the week party and led to the rise of the republican party, which was a regional party. they were not represented in the south, and it was the election of a republican president, abraham lincoln, without a southern electoral vote that prompted 10 states to secede from the union. host:hos

it effectively started the violence in the kansas territory in 1856, where you remember john brown, of course, and the border ruffians from missouri are fighting it out in the kansas territory over whether kansas will become a slave state or not. this ultimately leads to violence on the senate floor, when senator charles sumner is caned on the floor of the senate in 1856, may of 1856. and past that, it just accelerates towards the first secession of a state in december of 1860, south carolina. so the kansas-nebraska act is significant because it is effectively the trigger for the violence that spirals into the secession of the first state in 1860 after the election of abraham lincoln later that year. matt, would you like to add to that? matthew: there is a lot there. i would add that the kansas-nebraska act also accelerated the demise of the whig party and led to the rise of the republican party which was a regional party. the republican party was not represented in the south. it is the election of abraham lincoln without any southern electoral votes that then prompts south carolina an

houses to rescue, to be able to be republican party, a number of people were deeply engaged with john brownonspirators, cap fundraisers and it's not only the secret state become famous, also a lot of them who make their nations will argue the program. they had been executed as a traitor. to lean into the idea and when the nation took on the work, to be in favor of the hard work, to be in favor of a work i would and be resolved quickly but demand so much of the nation that people became going to confront slavery and terminate it. a good doctor but that is sometimes better. the agony of a nation and civil war was the only way were going to address the fundamental issues. >> to view the rest of us, as our website, booktv.org. type liana keith for the title of her book, when it was reined in the search box at the top of the page. >> is the coronavirus continues to impact the country, is a look at what the publishing industry is doing to address the ongoing pandemic. in recognition of last week's world that, the association of american publishers, the authors guild and the american booksellers a