now let's move to john rapping who is one of the individuals featured in the film. john, i remember when you first talked about starting a training center for public defenders, no one took you seriously. so what happened? you created it and you have been successfully training defenders. what motivated you to do that and how did it all come to be? >> first, i have been waiting 10 years. there is no doubt in my mind there is no civil rights struggle going on this country to make sure that poor people have lawyers. but it's something i really didn't understand when i started as a public defender. i started in a well resource office with manageable case loads and i was able to give clients with a gideon vision and then i moved to georgia for the statewide public defenders system in georgia and then i moved to new orleans in the wake of katrina to help rebuild that office and started to see what i experience nd dc was the exception and not the rule. for example i remember walking into a courtroom in new orleans, very first time ever walked into a courtroom in new orleans

applause] john: we're back with your questions for our case no economist and ross roberts and john head made the raprom the facebook page has a. bill: defined the end game principles when deciding what programs to fund or cut? >> for public goods like property rights are good for an economy that type of spending is helpful and some type of physical and human capital spending grows education and can be good if done efficiently. but the bulk of the budget today whether europe or the u.s. this transfer or consumption spending and the evans is that diverts resources from far more productive resources and if you do cost-benefit test and the transfer consumption spending looking at that types about lay. john: the port and the helpless? that is what the transfer payments are supposed to be. >> if you get the private sector growing the four will be better off than he would much rather be pour in hong kong or singapore because you have a better future than france for the best you can hope for is the politicians will for ever catch you on the head to keep you dependent ward of the state. >> people now more th

applause] john: we're back with your questions for our case no economist and ross roberts and john head made the rap first from the facebook page has a. bill: defined the end game principles when deciding what programs to fund or cut? >> for public goods like property rights aree good for an economy that type of spending is helpful and some type of physil and human pilpending grows education and can be good if done efficiently. but the bulk of the budget today whether europe or the u.s. this transfer or consumption ending and the evans is that diverts resources from far more productive resoues and if you do cost-benefit test and e transfer consumption spending looking at that types about lay. john: the port and the helpless? that is what the transfer payments are supsed to be. >> if you get the private sector growinghe four will be better off than he would much rather be pour in hong kong or singapore because you have a better future than france for the best you can hope for is the politicians will for ever tch you on the head to keep you dependent ward of the state. >> people now more than ever are

rapping. >> she did pronounce it correctly. >> let's talk more about dead white males like john ashcroft and ghost face. >> one of those is nottwo of them are not dead. >> really? ghost face and i haven't talked in awhile. >> students forced to listen to anti-frackig rap. people were said to set their tap water on fire. what happens is there were methane pockets in the ground and if you happened to live near one of those and if your well wasn't dug too well, no pun intended you could in fact light your tap water on fire. >> okay, andy. that makes sense. it is perfectly, environmentally normal to light your tap water on fire. >> no, but it is not caused by fracking. >> it has to be caused by fracking. in an area where they frack it happens. >> do the math. >> i did do the math. two plus two is 4. every time they show an example it has turned out to be methane pockets. >> oh my god. you are so brainwashed by the gas company that it is embarrassing. >> i accept your uh apology. jesse, you don't seem to care about this too much. i am with you. i don't care too much that it was on fracking, but as a hip hop scholar, i care that th

even though he is rap, he is widely regarded as an a political prosecutor. when johnral counsel for a con group. and rob lowe is now going to play a president. lowe has been cast as jfk in the up coming national geographic killing kennedy. he says the story centers around the assassination of our 35th president, and it is set in conjunction of the 50th anniversary of that tragic event later this year. we're back with more show after the break. stay with us. ♪ cenk off air>>> alright in 15 minutes we're going to do the young turks! i think the number 1 thing than viewers like about the young turks is that were honest. they know that i'm not bsing them for some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know i'm going to be the first one to call them out. cenk on air>> what's unacceptable is how washington continues to screw the middle class over. cenk off air>>> i don't want the middle class taking the brunt of the spending cuts and all the different programs that wind up hurting the middle class. cenk on air>>> you go

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