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attorney joyce vance, msnbc contributor. joyce, good to see you.you about something they cite, the republican senators, they cite in the request for the audit an 1877 election. is that a proper precedent to cite for the election audit? >> well, it might be precedent, but might be a bad example to use. this comes from the hayes tilden election, comes in the context of allegations of racial animous because we had an increasing number of black voters in the country, so probably not the kind of precedent ted cruz wants to cite, but what it's really talking about and what this letter from the senators fails to come to grips with is that they have no actual allegations of voter fraud. and every time lawyers got into a courtroom where they had to talk under oath about allegations of fraud, they went silent. they said whatever they wanted to in the press. in court where they had that obligation to be truthful, suddenly people like rudy giuliani said the cases weren't about fraud. this is mighty thin ice the republican senators are skating on. >> joyce, the
attorney joyce vance, msnbc contributor. joyce, good to see you.you about something they cite, the republican senators, they cite in the request for the audit an 1877 election. is that a proper precedent to cite for the election audit? >> well, it might be precedent, but might be a bad example to use. this comes from the hayes tilden election, comes in the context of allegations of racial animous because we had an increasing number of black voters in the country, so probably not the kind...
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and folks may hear a knock on their door if not this week, a couple of months down the road. >> joyce vanceoining us, i really appreciate it. thank you, joyce. >>> when we come back, what will the world be like for donald trump when he no longer has a twitter account? psychiatrist lance dodes will join us next. anniversary. (customer) for what? (burke) every year you're with us, you get fifty dollars toward your home deductible. it's a policy perk for being a farmers customer. (customer) do i have to do anything? (burke) nothing. (customer) nothing? (burke) nothing. (customer) nothing? (burke) nothing. (customer) hmm, that is really something. (burke) you get a whole lot of something with farmers policy perks. see ya. (kid) may i have a balloon, too? (burke) sure. your parents have maintained a farmers home policy for twelve consecutive months, right? ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪ (burke) start with a quote at 1-800-farmers. [phone rings] "sore throat pain? try new vicks vapocool drops in honey lemon chill for a fast-acting rush of relief like you've never tasted in... ♪ h
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and folks may hear a knock on their door if not this week, a couple of months down the road. >> joyce vancer joining us, really appreciate it. thank you joyce. >>> when we come back, what will the world be like for donald trump when he no longer has a twitter account? psychiatrist will join us next. '. and having more days is possible with verzenio, proven to help you live significantly longer when taken with fulvestrant. verzenio + fulvestrant is for women with hr+, her2- metastatic breast cancer that has progressed after hormone therapy. diarrhea is common, may be severe, or cause dehydration or infection. at the first sign, call your doctor, start an anti-diarrheal, and drink fluids. before taking verzenio, tell your doctor about any fever, chills, or other signs of infection. verzenio may cause low white blood cell counts, which may cause serious infection that can lead to death. life-threatening lung inflammation can occur. tell your doctor about any new or worsening trouble breathing, cough, or chest pain. serious liver problems can happen. symptoms include fatigue, appetite loss, sto
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track intent and helps you as law enforcement get some of the intelligence that you need to get. >> joyce vanceformer u.s. attorney from the great state of alabama. joyce, it's great to see you tonight. thanks for helping us understand. >> thank you. >> all right. we'll be right back. stay with us. new nyquil severe honey is maximum strength cold and flu medicine with soothing honey-licious taste. nyquil honey. the nighttime, sniffling, sneezing, coughing, aching, stuffy head, fever best sleep with a cold medicine. are ywho experience occasional bloating, gas,s or abdominal discomfort? taking align every day can help. align contains a quality probiotic developed by gastroenterologists. it adds more good bacteria to your gut, to naturally help soothe your occasional bloating, gas, and abdominal discomfort 24/7. support your digestive health with align, the #1 doctor recommended probiotic. try align today, the pros in digestive health. also try align dualbiotic gummies to help support digestive health. think you need to buy expensive skincare products [♪] to see dramatic results? try olay skin ca
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track intent and helps you as law enforcement get some of the intelligence that you need to get. >> joyce vanceformer u.s. attorney from the great state of alabama. joyce, it's great to see you tonight. thanks for helping us understand. >> thank you. >> all right, we'll be right back. stay with us. >> all right, we'll be right back stay with us have time to go to the post office they have businesses to grow they use stamps.com print discounted postage for any letter any package any time all the services of the post office plus ups only cheaper get our special tv offer a 4-week trial plus postage and a digital scale go to stamps.com/tv and never go to the post office again. my hands are everything to me. but i was diagnosed with dupuytren's contracture. and it got to the point where things i took for granted got tougher to do. thought surgery was my only option. turns out i was wrong. so when a hand specialist told me about nonsurgical treatments, it was a total game changer. like you, my hands have a lot more to do. learn more at factsonhand.com today. like you, my hands have a lot more to do.
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joyce vance, words matter. let's talk about words because our words have normalized donald trump over the last four years, and if we were reporting on this, kyle perry makes this point all the time because he and i spent a lot of time reporting on international news. if we were reporting on this in another country, we would not spare ourselves the words of attempted coups and insurrections and things like that. so tell me about what this is and what this isn't that is going on at the hand of donald trump. >> i think you make a great point, ali, and it is worth noting why we don't use the same kind of strong language domestically that we do abroad. the reason that we don't do that is because we have a tradition in this country of cooperation, of people with different ideological points of view working together. the problem is that that principled practice is poorly suited for the trump era, and that's just a reality that has caught up with us too slowly. that for so long, for years we talked about the president
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joining us, joyce vance, who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. we also have mike schmidt, of "the new york times," as well as peter baker. joyce, we'll start with you. if you are -- while you are watching, what sort of red flags are you going to see, people that aren't just routine pardons, but people who are defying the norms, people who would offend some americans. >> well, i think what you're talking about, katy, is pardons that are being given for improper reasons. the president's pardon power is broad. he can essentially do almost whatever he would like to do here. but that doesn't mean that pardons can't be given that we would commonly be viewed as abusive. and i think key are pardons given out to politicians who have been convicted of corruption. we've seen this with rod blagojevich, who was released from prison. we would look for that tonight, along with other pardons that are given to people who have engaged in high dollar or serious frauds. for instance, the commutation for a florida businessman who defrauded investors in his real estate
joining us, joyce vance, who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. we also have mike schmidt, of "the new york times," as well as peter baker. joyce, we'll start with you. if you are -- while you are watching, what sort of red flags are you going to see, people that aren't just routine pardons, but people who are defying the norms, people who would offend some americans. >> well, i think what you're talking about, katy, is pardons that are being given for improper reasons. the...
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tina amara, and joyce vance, former u.s. attorney and msnbc contributor. first i want to get everyone's reactions to this remarkable phone call between the president and the georgia secretary of state, obtained by msnbc news. david jolly, let's start with you. >> lindsay, i think it's very clear. the phone call confirms what many people believed about donald trump for a while, that he is a cheat, a fraud, a scoundrel, who considers himself above the law and above others. the reflection in this moment is that we have to realize the constitution, at least in the hands of the current custodians of it on capitol hill, finds it unable to hold this man accountable for what is likely not only criminal activity but impeachable activity. i think the nations, the critics, observers of donald trump in this moment wrestle with when justice might come. it may be the only redeeming justice for donald trump is that he goes through the rest of his life unable to reconcile that the greatest rejection in his life came with the eyes of the world upon him when the nation that
tina amara, and joyce vance, former u.s. attorney and msnbc contributor. first i want to get everyone's reactions to this remarkable phone call between the president and the georgia secretary of state, obtained by msnbc news. david jolly, let's start with you. >> lindsay, i think it's very clear. the phone call confirms what many people believed about donald trump for a while, that he is a cheat, a fraud, a scoundrel, who considers himself above the law and above others. the reflection in...
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let's go to joyce vance, she spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. i imagine as a federal prosecutor, when you find out that the person you worked so hard to put behind bars has been pardoned or granted clemency, it's got to sting. >> you know, sometimes, katy, but not always. the sort of public corruption pardons are always a little bit difficult. so i assume my former colleague, who was in detroit, who was responsible for the kilpatrick conviction, may find that one to be a little bit difficult to take. but on the other hand, in many cases, prosecutors work hard to aid the pardon attorney at the justice department to determine which people in custody or finishing their sentence are good candidates for a pardon. because the pardon process is supposed to be about justice and mercy. so prosecutors will work with judges and defense lawyers to determine whether or not a defendant has been rehabilitated in prison, whether his sentence was a sentence that was disproportionate, and in some cases they'll become advocates. we've found one defendant would ser
let's go to joyce vance, she spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. i imagine as a federal prosecutor, when you find out that the person you worked so hard to put behind bars has been pardoned or granted clemency, it's got to sting. >> you know, sometimes, katy, but not always. the sort of public corruption pardons are always a little bit difficult. so i assume my former colleague, who was in detroit, who was responsible for the kilpatrick conviction, may find that one to be a little bit...
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those are the veries that investigators will have to parse. >> and joyce vance, thank you, good to see we want to make sure that you are aware of joyce's new podcast, so you will have to join us for another segment because we're now doing podcasts on the weekend, so you will have to talk to us about it, it is called sisters in law. she will be joined by barbara mcquaid and kimberly atkins as they share rulings on the latest in politics law and culture, available on apple podcasts. congratulations, joyce, can't wait to have you on talking about it. >>> coming up, we'll talk about accountability, something that my 4-year-old understands fairly well, sometimes, but members of the republican party seem to struggle with. that is in #the run. #the run. nicorette knows, quitting smoking is freaking hard. you get advice like: try hypnosis... or... quit cold turkey. kidding me?! instead, start small. with nicorette. which can lead to something big. start stopping with nicorette (burke) at farmers, we know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two. like how nice it is to switch and save o
those are the veries that investigators will have to parse. >> and joyce vance, thank you, good to see we want to make sure that you are aware of joyce's new podcast, so you will have to join us for another segment because we're now doing podcasts on the weekend, so you will have to talk to us about it, it is called sisters in law. she will be joined by barbara mcquaid and kimberly atkins as they share rulings on the latest in politics law and culture, available on apple podcasts....
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attorney joyce vance, she spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. i imagine as a federal prosecutor, when you find out that the person you worked so hard to put behind bars has been pardoned or granted clemency, it's got to sting. >> you know, sometimes, katy, but not always. the sort of public corruption pardons are always a little bit difficult. so i assume my former colleague, barb mcquaid, who was in detroit, who was responsible for the kilpatrick conviction, something they fought for very hard, might find that one to be a little bit difficult to take. but on the other hand, in many cases, prosecutors work hard to aid the pardon attorney at the justice department to determine which people in custody or finishing their sentence are good candidates for a pardon. because the pardon process is supposed to be about justice and mercy. so prosecutors will work with judges and defense lawyers to determine whether or not a defendant has been rehabilitated in prison, whether his sentence viewed in hindsight was a sentence that was disproportionate, and in
attorney joyce vance, she spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. i imagine as a federal prosecutor, when you find out that the person you worked so hard to put behind bars has been pardoned or granted clemency, it's got to sting. >> you know, sometimes, katy, but not always. the sort of public corruption pardons are always a little bit difficult. so i assume my former colleague, barb mcquaid, who was in detroit, who was responsible for the kilpatrick conviction, something they fought for...
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for more on the legal challenges facing the president, let's bring in joyce vance, a former u.s.y and former fbi official. both are msnbc legal analysts. good to see you both. we are delighted to have both of you as we have plenty of legal questions. let's start with a viewer named chuck. no, it doesn't get you to the top of the line if you have the same name as one of our guests but it doesn't hurt. chuck asks, if trump pardons all of the insurrectionists, leaves office and then is impeached and found guilty by the senate, can the pardons be overturned? i think that the answer is no, that the presidential pardon power is one of those absolute pieces of the presidency that is sort of grandfathered in, but what would you say? >> i agree with you, joshua. it is not quite absolute. the constitution itself puts at least two restrictions on it. it can only be for federal offenses and not in cases of impeachment. short of those two things, and now i'm talking to the other chuck who has a wonderful name, by the way, i don't think it matters if the president is impeached and convicted as
for more on the legal challenges facing the president, let's bring in joyce vance, a former u.s.y and former fbi official. both are msnbc legal analysts. good to see you both. we are delighted to have both of you as we have plenty of legal questions. let's start with a viewer named chuck. no, it doesn't get you to the top of the line if you have the same name as one of our guests but it doesn't hurt. chuck asks, if trump pardons all of the insurrectionists, leaves office and then is impeached...
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and joyce vance, former u.s.he alabama school of law. >> thank you. >> ashley, first to you -- i should say chief ashley, this buy america plan represents a rare agenda item that is not fully out of sync with some of the trump policies but how is it going to be different under this president? >> you're right, it's not out of sync. but donald trump in his first year in 2017 also signed a buy america executive order on a background briefing call on with some of the biden economic team members last night. they were asked that question, what is different than what donald trump tried to do? they did not give any real specifics but they did point out with trump's executive order there was a lot of fanfare and a lot of talk about buy america and put america first but when it actually came to policies and to practice, very little changed. >> so the challenge for you guys is going to be -- for all of us -- to be following up and making sure something actually does happen as we tried to do with president trump, just to be
and joyce vance, former u.s.he alabama school of law. >> thank you. >> ashley, first to you -- i should say chief ashley, this buy america plan represents a rare agenda item that is not fully out of sync with some of the trump policies but how is it going to be different under this president? >> you're right, it's not out of sync. but donald trump in his first year in 2017 also signed a buy america executive order on a background briefing call on with some of the biden...
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joining me now is joyce vance and msnbc legal analyst. there's focus on whether pardons award allies or supporters or tracked back to lobbying efforts. take me inside your thought process. what do you look at most closely as we track all this. >> i think it's important for us to start with an understanding of what the pardon process should look like. that pardon wouldn't be effective but trump seemed on target toe issue one anyhow an ultimately it may be the impeachmenty proceedings again him that about cabin his abuse of the pardon power because he would certainly have reason to believe that there would be consequences for abusingre the power onns his own behalf at th point and that he might pay the price in h impeachment proceedings. so a little bit of an interesting connection there between thosete different aspec of this presidency. >> one of the names floated out there, joyce, in some of the reporting of a person who could potentially get clem clemency. lil wayne. "the new york times" says it's pat cipollone, ivanka trump, jared kush
joining me now is joyce vance and msnbc legal analyst. there's focus on whether pardons award allies or supporters or tracked back to lobbying efforts. take me inside your thought process. what do you look at most closely as we track all this. >> i think it's important for us to start with an understanding of what the pardon process should look like. that pardon wouldn't be effective but trump seemed on target toe issue one anyhow an ultimately it may be the impeachmenty proceedings again...
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michael moore and joyce vance, thank you both for the education tonight. >> great to be with you. and with you, joyce. >> appreciate it. appreciate it. >>> coming up, election eve in georgia. democrats want to demote mcconnell. we have some of the early voting numbers, and two very special guests. >>> plus, later, we're going to show you the tape. ted cruz's hypocrisy exposed on a way that may haunt him on wednesday. the receipt's coming up. i say, it's me, the couch, i'm calling. pain says you can't. advil says you can. just washed laundry doesn't smell... just washed.our that's because there's hidden sweat and body soils that cause odors on your clothes. but there's a solution for those secret stinks: gain flings laundry pacs! gain flings has more freshness ingredients compared to bargain liquid detergents. they have 3 super powered ingredients that fight stink: oxi boost, febreze odor remover, and concentrated detergent. just toss in a couple of pacs. gain flings works in all wash cycles, even in cold water. try gain flings and smell the difference or we'll give you your money b
michael moore and joyce vance, thank you both for the education tonight. >> great to be with you. and with you, joyce. >> appreciate it. appreciate it. >>> coming up, election eve in georgia. democrats want to demote mcconnell. we have some of the early voting numbers, and two very special guests. >>> plus, later, we're going to show you the tape. ted cruz's hypocrisy exposed on a way that may haunt him on wednesday. the receipt's coming up. i say, it's me, the...
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joining me now, joyce vance, former u.s. attorney in the northern district of alabama. she is also an msnbc contributor. joyce, good to see you, always. your reaction to this news that president trump had a plan to oust jeffrey rosen, as acting ag? >> this is one of the most serious stories that we've seen about the dimunition of integrity at the justice department. and it's important, i think, to note that the individual in question, jeffrey clark, in the story that katie benner wrote in "the new york times," denied, said that it wasn't true. he also refused to give her any specifics in her reporting about where he found flaws. and as you read this story, there is something that really sticks out to me here and that's the question of how did this communication between this doj official and the president take place? this is the head of the environment and natural resources division of the doj. he had become the acting head of the civil division, late during trump's tenure in -- in late summer. and so, the question is why is he talking to the president? typically, there a
joining me now, joyce vance, former u.s. attorney in the northern district of alabama. she is also an msnbc contributor. joyce, good to see you, always. your reaction to this news that president trump had a plan to oust jeffrey rosen, as acting ag? >> this is one of the most serious stories that we've seen about the dimunition of integrity at the justice department. and it's important, i think, to note that the individual in question, jeffrey clark, in the story that katie benner wrote in...
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also joyce vance, nbc news contributor and a former u.s. attorney.start with you on this one. there's two things i want to tackle while i have you, one of which is "the washington post" report considering the fact that basically the capitol police had a heads-up three days before january 6th, they understood there was a major threat in which rioters may very well storm the capitol and yet it seemed as if they were not prepared. when we are looking ahead to the inauguration on wednesday, and we know how these extremists go about planning their attacks, how can we trust that folks are prepared this time and they're listening to intelligence? >> well, i think we are already seeing the fruit of proper planning by having, like, the most national guard, i think, we've ever seen in washington, d.c., outside of a war condition. it is still concerning, though, right? like, the -- somewhere along the way, there was intelligence. we've now discovered at the capitol police, there was intelligence that the fbi had from talking to former colleagues at dhs. there w
also joyce vance, nbc news contributor and a former u.s. attorney.start with you on this one. there's two things i want to tackle while i have you, one of which is "the washington post" report considering the fact that basically the capitol police had a heads-up three days before january 6th, they understood there was a major threat in which rioters may very well storm the capitol and yet it seemed as if they were not prepared. when we are looking ahead to the inauguration on...
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joyce vance, professor and attorney in alabama and msnbc contributor. one day joyce and i will talk about interesting stuff that is not about the crumble of democracy. i look forward to that day, my friend. we're unfortunately watching democracy crumble, and let's not forget when democracy prevailed. despite trump's best efforts, georgia flipped the senate. i'll have details on that ahead. . i'm cologuard. i'm noninvasive and detect altered dna in your stool to find 92% of colon cancers even in early stages. tell me more. it's for people 45 plus at average risk for colon cancer, not high risk. false positive and negative results may occur. ask your prescriber or an online prescriber if cologuard is right for you. i'll get on it! that's a step in the right direction. that's a step see every yikes...... and even every awwwwwwww... wait, where was i? introducing self protection from xfinity. designed to put you in control. with real-time notifications and a week of uninterrupted recording. all powered by reliable, secure wifi from xfinity. gotta respect his
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and joyce vance who spend 25 years as federal prosecutor, and peter baker, among the co-authors of "impeachmentood evening and welcome to you all. peter baker, because of your seniority on the beat, i want to begin with you. we have been told the list of pardons would be within the hour. what do you think the president has been doing on the last day, this last night in office? >> well, the pardon power is one of his favorites over the last four years because it's uncheckable. it's the one power he has where he doesn't have to ask anybody else for permission. he doesn't have to win over allies. convince a congressman or issue an agenda rule. he can sign a piece of paper. the lives he affects are people ho are close to him or close to people who were close to him. he has not used it in great measure for people he don't know or had a connection with. and what we hear, the last few hours, he is going through the list. he has a list of dozen, maybe a hundred or so possible recipients of the pardons, including the latest report, possibly steve bannon, his strategist who was arrested for scanning trum
and joyce vance who spend 25 years as federal prosecutor, and peter baker, among the co-authors of "impeachmentood evening and welcome to you all. peter baker, because of your seniority on the beat, i want to begin with you. we have been told the list of pardons would be within the hour. what do you think the president has been doing on the last day, this last night in office? >> well, the pardon power is one of his favorites over the last four years because it's uncheckable. it's...
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joining me now, peter baker and joyce vance, former u.s. ey and professor at the university of alabama school of law. welcome to you both. joyce, you first, here, republicans are arguing that it's unconstitutional because trump is out of office. is there anything explicit or implicit in the constitution that would support or reject that notion? you may have heard my conversation with patrick leahy in which he outlined that the process began while he was president. it went through the house. this is merely a continuation of the process to get to the senate. >> senator leahy is absolutely right here. a president can't just resign in order to avoid the consequences of his action. and i spent some time yesterday afternoon and went back and re-read the portions of the federalist papers that talk about the powers of the senate and impeachment to see if there was anything explicit. there's not. but the clear tone and the agreement among legal scholars is that a president can proceed to an impeachment trial after he's resigned. otherwise the most im
joining me now, peter baker and joyce vance, former u.s. ey and professor at the university of alabama school of law. welcome to you both. joyce, you first, here, republicans are arguing that it's unconstitutional because trump is out of office. is there anything explicit or implicit in the constitution that would support or reject that notion? you may have heard my conversation with patrick leahy in which he outlined that the process began while he was president. it went through the house....
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with me now, joyce vance, a former u.s. attorney for the northern district of alabama, and a professor at the university of alabama school of law parks trees is an artist, political strategist and co-founder and executive director of black lives matter, and the editor at large and author of how to catch a russian spy. the true story of an american civilian turned double agent. i'll going to start with you. we're learning today the capitol got times from the nypd and fbi warning about the possibility of violence. this is chatter you and i were talking about yesterday. what kind of light does this shed on the breakdown in the capitol hill police response and can they be held responsible for not leading those warnings? >> i think absolutely to your last point. one of the problems we have here is i think over the last four years there has been a steady drum beat of this rise of this concern of antifa. and i think that police officers have almost developed a sympathetic relationship to activists that say that they're there for t
with me now, joyce vance, a former u.s. attorney for the northern district of alabama, and a professor at the university of alabama school of law parks trees is an artist, political strategist and co-founder and executive director of black lives matter, and the editor at large and author of how to catch a russian spy. the true story of an american civilian turned double agent. i'll going to start with you. we're learning today the capitol got times from the nypd and fbi warning about the...
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for more on the legal challenges facing the president, let's bring in joyce vance, former u.s.rosenberg, a senior fbi official. both are msnbc legal analysts. good to see you both. we are so delighted to have the two of you. let's get you a question from a viewer named chuck. that doesn't get you to the front of the line but clearly it doesn't hurt. if trump pardons all the insurrectionists, leaves office and is impeached by the senate, account pardons be overturned? i think the answer is no, that the presidential pardon power is one of those kind of absolute pieces of presidency that is sort of grandfathered in, be what would you say? >> i agree with you, joshua. it's not quite absolute. the constitution itself puts at least two restrictions on it. it can only be for federal offenses, and it can't be for impeachment. as long as the pardons were authored in his presidency, they would be valid. >> and self-pardon. what happen do you think of the prospect for one? >> well, the law is delightfully ambiguous on the self-pardon topic. there is no clarity. and the better part of the
for more on the legal challenges facing the president, let's bring in joyce vance, former u.s.rosenberg, a senior fbi official. both are msnbc legal analysts. good to see you both. we are so delighted to have the two of you. let's get you a question from a viewer named chuck. that doesn't get you to the front of the line but clearly it doesn't hurt. if trump pardons all the insurrectionists, leaves office and is impeached by the senate, account pardons be overturned? i think the answer is no,...
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attorney for the northern district of alabama and an msnbc legal analyst joyce vance joins us.bc legal contributor neal katyal. and state attorney for palm beach county dave aronberg joins us. nbc's kasie hunt is back with us as well. >> neal, did the commit a crime? >> absolutely. it looks that way from everything on the tape. maybe there are some surrounding circumstances that exculpate him. but i think a criminal investigation is absolutely warranted. he said, i need to find -- you need to find 11,780 votes. i mean, someone who is committed to seeking the truth goes and wants to seek the truth. they don't seek a certain specific number of votes and threaten georgia officials with criminal prosecution if they don't comply. >> so what, joyce, what are some of the crimes the president may have committed on this weekend call? >> so i agree with neal. first, it's important to say that there has to be a full investigation. here's why. there are a lot of possible crimes. there is this georgia solicitation statute soliciting election fraud. that looks like a slam dunk. it's what law
attorney for the northern district of alabama and an msnbc legal analyst joyce vance joins us.bc legal contributor neal katyal. and state attorney for palm beach county dave aronberg joins us. nbc's kasie hunt is back with us as well. >> neal, did the commit a crime? >> absolutely. it looks that way from everything on the tape. maybe there are some surrounding circumstances that exculpate him. but i think a criminal investigation is absolutely warranted. he said, i need to find --...
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distinguished research fellow at the foreign policy research institute and msnbc national security analyst, joyce vance as well, former u.s. attorney, now law professor at the university of alabama and msnbc contributor. it's pretty stunning. clint, i'll let you go first here. when you watch this, you'll hear their thoughts speaking out loud in the heat of the moment urging people to go back to their states and cause chaos as if what they were doing in that moment wasn't enough. what goes through your mind? >> when i taught terrorism and counterterrorism we talked about the process of radicalization. this is exactly what we talked about a decade ago. except the context was though isis storming symbolic targets like the capitol, that they would go after democratic -- like the senate, that they would try and overturn our country or bring it to its knees from the inside out or they would create a mobilization rally. except now it's americans doing it to themselves. it is the president's supporters doing it to the institution. what i find remarkable is four years ago when the new administration was coming
distinguished research fellow at the foreign policy research institute and msnbc national security analyst, joyce vance as well, former u.s. attorney, now law professor at the university of alabama and msnbc contributor. it's pretty stunning. clint, i'll let you go first here. when you watch this, you'll hear their thoughts speaking out loud in the heat of the moment urging people to go back to their states and cause chaos as if what they were doing in that moment wasn't enough. what goes...
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attorney joyce vance, 25 years as federal prosecutor, and michael schmitt, pulitzer prize winner forto get a lot of names here, some more controversial than others. while you're watching, what red flags are you going to see? not just routine pardons but people who are defying the
attorney joyce vance, 25 years as federal prosecutor, and michael schmitt, pulitzer prize winner forto get a lot of names here, some more controversial than others. while you're watching, what red flags are you going to see? not just routine pardons but people who are defying the
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attorney joyce vance and intelligence analyst malcolm nance. lieutenant governor, apologies. have to go to malcolm first. the joint chiefs of staff today, malcolm, issued a memorandum to the entire united states military saying the violent riot january 6th, 2021, any act to disrupt the constitutional process is not only against our traditions, values and oath, it is against the law. nbc reports metal detectors have been set up outside the house chamber. anyone going in, including members, have to go through metal detectors. that says to me that the call is coming from way inside the house if the joint chiefs have to issue a memo like that and now republican members of congress, who some of them brag that they are -- have guns have to go through a metal detector. are you worried about the military standing behind dem ocracy on the 20th? >> i am certainly not. at the end of the american revolution, there was almost a revolution itself inside u.s. forces that were stationed at the headquarters in newberg, new york. no one was getting paid. people weren't being let out of the arm
attorney joyce vance and intelligence analyst malcolm nance. lieutenant governor, apologies. have to go to malcolm first. the joint chiefs of staff today, malcolm, issued a memorandum to the entire united states military saying the violent riot january 6th, 2021, any act to disrupt the constitutional process is not only against our traditions, values and oath, it is against the law. nbc reports metal detectors have been set up outside the house chamber. anyone going in, including members, have...
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joyce vance tells me we have to be careful with treason because it implies something with unique implications. this is a coup attempt. it is a president who was encouraging an insurrection. he is a president who lies, doesn't tell half truths and truths, whatever nonsense bs the media has been using for the last four years. he is a liar, and those people who stormed the capitol today are terrorists. it is a disservice to the american people to say anything less. >> look, you are totally right, and it is not just common parlance but the law books that call it that. there are any number of crimes that he might potentially be charged with. i have been among the people arguing for possible prudence and abeyance with respect to charging him, but the federal interest, which is what you think about when you charge a federal crime, has changed dramatically today. we saw an assault on the physical heart of the democracy, the sort of thing you saw maybe with timothy mcveigh but worst when he went after a post office, and we saw an assault on the beating heart of democracy in the sense of peaceful trans
joyce vance tells me we have to be careful with treason because it implies something with unique implications. this is a coup attempt. it is a president who was encouraging an insurrection. he is a president who lies, doesn't tell half truths and truths, whatever nonsense bs the media has been using for the last four years. he is a liar, and those people who stormed the capitol today are terrorists. it is a disservice to the american people to say anything less. >> look, you are totally...
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joyce vance, the most pressing question outside, how much will alabama beat ohio state? >> i think alabama will crush and it will be a roll tide. >> i think it's going to be a good game. i'm looking forward to it. going to be exciting tone. joyce, thank you so much. we always appreciate it. ken, thank you so much. >>> our next guest says it's going to be a truth reckoning for all those who stood by and defended the president while he lied to americans. editor of forbes joins with us his latest piece. and u.s. national editor at the financial times joins us as well. randa randall, there are certain patriots who were concerned about going into the administration. and i speak of people like general mattis, general henry mcmaster. you could go down the list. quite a few very talented people who followed the advice of people like dr. brzezinski and bob gates who said to me and others, we only have one president at a time. general hayden said this time and again. we have to do everything we can to make this president succeed. that's not who you are talking about in this articl
joyce vance, the most pressing question outside, how much will alabama beat ohio state? >> i think alabama will crush and it will be a roll tide. >> i think it's going to be a good game. i'm looking forward to it. going to be exciting tone. joyce, thank you so much. we always appreciate it. ken, thank you so much. >>> our next guest says it's going to be a truth reckoning for all those who stood by and defended the president while he lied to americans. editor of forbes...
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next onweek, we've got a progr on presidential pardons with joyce vance and jeanne, which will be fascinatingely conversation. we're talking about the electoral college and when the n people should jan pick the prest on january 21st with jesse wegman and rick hertzberg. then we move to move to talk ab affairs with the french ambassador to the united states about the atlantic alliance, , g nato, trade and the european or union, among other subjects. and we'll have david rubenstein and our common good forum on march 4th. i do hope we can have you back.a i have suchll admiration for alg three of you and t i really appreciate you taking the time l and even adding to the time here. thank you, all. thank you to our terrific audience and we hope we see you again next week. thank you, thank you, thank you. >>> weeknights this month, we're featuring american history tv programs as a preview of what's available every weekend on c-span3. tonight, america's colonial and founding period. we begin at the university of delaware. they teach a class on how colonial history is remembered through historic site
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joining us now, joyce vance, former u.s. m the northern district of alabama and msnbc legal analyst, and jed shugarman, professor of law at fordham university. joyce, let's start with the pardons. there is 143 of them. a lot of them corrupt politician, cronies and folks like steve baton who hasn't spaced trial yet. whatever arguments were used to persuade him away from that course of action, those worked. where do you think his legal status and liability is right now? >> liability is right now? >> i think the president moves forward with a lot of problems, you've identified places that could possibly be considering prosecution. and certainly the u.s. attorney in the southern district of new york has a case, the president was infamously individual number one in the michael cohen case, an unindicted co-conspirator. and the it is important for people to understand the most important thing that happens in the criminal justice system isn't putting people in prison, it is understanding the truth, it is knowing what really happened.
joining us now, joyce vance, former u.s. m the northern district of alabama and msnbc legal analyst, and jed shugarman, professor of law at fordham university. joyce, let's start with the pardons. there is 143 of them. a lot of them corrupt politician, cronies and folks like steve baton who hasn't spaced trial yet. whatever arguments were used to persuade him away from that course of action, those worked. where do you think his legal status and liability is right now? >> liability is...
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we have the tools -- and joyce vance will say this as well, there are the legal tools.he need to get more serious, the fbi and the justice department, about applying them and have the will to conduct surveillance and to infiltrate these chat rooms and run informants the wray they do against al qaeda and isis, against the patriot and militia groups. there is going to be a huge pushback. these people have connections to republican members of congress as we have seen. this becomes much more controversial, guys. >> it would seem republicans would have every much a bit of incentives as democrats to go after these domestic terrorist groups because they are so associated with some of the fringe elements, so associated with. so republicans should want them to be rooted out as much as democrats. by the way, mika, i said the oklahoma city bombing was in '96. it was actually in 1995. >> ken dilanian and aaron berg, thank you so much. >>> president biden unveils national strategy for combatting the coronavirus pandemic. one he says is based on science not politics. former fda commi
we have the tools -- and joyce vance will say this as well, there are the legal tools.he need to get more serious, the fbi and the justice department, about applying them and have the will to conduct surveillance and to infiltrate these chat rooms and run informants the wray they do against al qaeda and isis, against the patriot and militia groups. there is going to be a huge pushback. these people have connections to republican members of congress as we have seen. this becomes much more...
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track intent and helps you as law enforcement get some of the intelligence that you need to get. >> joyce vanceney from the great state of alabama. joyce, it's great to see you tonight. thanks for helping us understand. >> thank you. >> all right. we'll be right back. stay with us. what's my safelite story? my truck...is my livelihood. so when my windshield cracked... the experts at safelite autoglass came right to me... with service i could trust. right, girl? >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ nicorette knows, quitting smoking is hard. you get advice like: try hypnosis... or... quit cold turkey. kidding me?! instead, start small. with nicorette. which can lead to something big. start stopping with nicorette zip code? add an employee. or ten... then easily and automatically pay your team and file payroll taxes. that means... world domination! or just the west side. run payroll in less than five minutes with intuit quickbooks. i feel like we're forgetting something. let me check. xfinity home gives you peace of mind from anywhere with professionally monitored home security built
track intent and helps you as law enforcement get some of the intelligence that you need to get. >> joyce vanceney from the great state of alabama. joyce, it's great to see you tonight. thanks for helping us understand. >> thank you. >> all right. we'll be right back. stay with us. what's my safelite story? my truck...is my livelihood. so when my windshield cracked... the experts at safelite autoglass came right to me... with service i could trust. right, girl? >>...