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k.t. mcfarland is here. connell: she always has serious questions. i am not that concerned about it. i think that somebody should just come out and explain what this is. i do not think that it is terribly sinister. what this is looking at your phone records. you called connor, connor called his mother. that is what they are tracking. there are a awful lot of phone calls that they are looking at. dagen: this was a secret order, was it not? should the administration, out in advance? >> nsa is not supposed to be monitoring americans. in this case, if i look at the dates of it, it started right after the boston bombings. you certainly do not want to come out and announces that you are looking at everyone's phone records. i am not terribly concerned about this. dagen: don't we have to assume -- these types of things are going on. we just do not know about them and maybe it is just more white scape. >> it probably is. they are looking to try to see who called whom and who called the next person. >> listening in on the phone calls is totally different. >> a

k.t. mcfarland. our fellow broadcaster. she is a grandmother of five. >> that is right b-1 also a grim turn her five grandchildren. we are talking about women. >> i have a dog as well. lou: she has a dog too. >> how can we ballyhoo all this progress? lou: that's right, you saw this in the "chalk talk." more than 8.5 million women face in income between $29,000, and 30,000 dolls a year. we aperpetuating such a waste in our socie. >> the unfrtunate pat is that there are very few people who are willing to talk about this. this is a very sensitive subject. you have to talk about single mothers in the problems in an shoe. able to give them educationalng opportunities. you're talking about what ultimately leads to the entitlement society at you ha. these people become dependent on government programs. they have two figures who are ab to contribute to their emotional and financial well-being. i support that you are financially able to take that on, i also tip my hat to you. but you'd need to be sure that you can financially provid

k.t. mcfarland >> and grandmotr of five. >> im also a grandparent of five. let's get to as you de with more traditiinal personalities as we brag about their grandchildren. >> i have a dog. [laughter] how can weally to you saw what i said more than eight point* 5 million women faced with an income between $17,400 per year upsurge 29,000 lacking education the children will go into the same cycle and we e perpetuating such a waste in our society. >> unfortunately ere are very few peopleho were willing to talk about this. have to talk about single mothers and the problem is they cannot financially provide for then you talk about not being able to give them educational opportunities and to ultimately leads to the entitlement society where these peopleecome dependent on government programs and systems because they don't have the two-parent household where they have two figures to contribute to their emotional, phycal, financi al well-being. is this conversation nee to hpen i am all for strong and empowere women in the works fate long dash work for siam for the fem

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