katty kay is still with us.itzer prize winning associate editor of the "washington post" bob woodward. chief who's correspondent for the "new york times," peter baker, and pulitzer prize winning columnist at "the washington post," eugene robinson is with us. what a great group we have for this hour, and, joe, the dems are hoping to move forward and try and work with republicans with the new leadership. you could hear that. >> we'll see. yeah, i heard that. we'll see. you also heard him talk about a temporary majority, so, yeah, we'll see what happens. i'm just curious, though, i want to start with bob woodward. bob, i'm sure you've got fascinating insight on the fallout from the seditious conspiracy trial and conviction of stewart rhodes, and a few others. what impact does that have on merrick garland's thinking? on the doj? possibly on donald trump? >> yeah, it gives them a strong basis. i think we are now at this point that the justice department, the new special counsel is going to have to indict trump or exp

special correspondent for bbc news, katty kay is with us this morning as well. what a week ahead for the former president. i know there are other things going on as well. >> it's an incredible week. speaking of incredible. katty kay got her wish yesterday. >> yes, she did. >> the french, she called them the surrender monkeys, i'm deeply offended by that. the french lost yesterday. i don't know if you can even say lost, though, katty. that was without a doubt, and i think everybody agrees, the most extraordinary world cup final anybody's ever seen. i must say, it's probably the best football game i have ever seen played yesterday. messi and mbappe just two, there are no words. just two extraordinary talents. they are the best of the best. >> i got so nervous at points during the game, i had to keep going into the kitchen to make a cup of tea. because i could not handle the stress and the pressure and the excitement. i think you're right, i was watching with a bunch of my kids' friend, all soccer nuts who have watched every single world cup game, many of them have

katty kay is here u.s. special correspondent for bbc studios as well as an msnbc contributor pulling a true double today. and pete struck a former fbi counterintelligence agent. luke broad water i have to start with you. it feels like this whole topic of pardons was very well-deployed by the committee but in some ways saving some of this evidence for the very end. that not only did he know he lost, he knew that he and his aides had likely committed crimes. >> right. well, you know, as the january 6th committee is releasing these hundreds of transcripts and they're racing to get them all out the door before january 3rd when republicans will take control of the congress, the reason they're doing that is they really want the full transcripts out there. they don't want the new house majority to be able to cherry pick evidence and selectively release things. but as they're putting this out we're seeing even more revelations that we didn't know necessarily in realtime about we've heard a lot about talk about the

do you stand up for democracy, katty kay? the question should be asked to every republican, every minute of every day by every reporter that can get in the presence of a republican leader because these people have a chance to lead, and quite frankly guide their supporters on the importance of the constitution. on the very framework of this democracy that got them elected can sometimes there is leading that needs to be done, and the question is will they -- they seem so weak, and simple minded, and quite frankly, as if their brain has been washed by donald trump. >> if you want to look at a picture of republican awkwardness, you only had to look at the sunday shows, and played some of the clips. there was also republican congressman david joist being interviewed by george stephanopoulos. he was asked, are you going to say that you would support a candidate who is in favor of doing away with the u.s. constitution. in the end, all the congressman could say, you know, he says a lot of things. >> no. >> they are pushed into a corn

i'm jonathan lemire i'm alongside bbc's katty kay, and politico's sam stein.utiful felt elsewhere in the state? >> yeah, we're still seeing the storm area, amazing pictures, we begin in buffalo, new york, where the death toll has reached 29 people due to last weekend's winter storm. crews are still working on clearing the streets. but warmer weather is creating new concerns because of potential flooding from the over four feet of snow in the area. temperatures are expected to range from the lower 40s all the way to the mid-50s over the next five days. in response, new york governor kathy hochul is urging state agencies to prepare flood response assets for the area. while the governor is coordinating assets before potential flooding. questions are humaning as local officials could have enacted a driving ban much earlier to prevent people from being out of their homes when the storm actually hit, erie county executive mark poloncarz and mayor brown commented on each other. take a listen. >> the reason why state and county have come in and took over operations, i

special correspondent for bbc news, katty kay. a full house for the fourth hour. ambassador, let me start with you and your reaction to what you've seen here. you've been talking with us for months about brittney griner and paul whelan, securing the release of both of them. what's your take and your view about this deal? >> it's a great day for america when an american is freed. i agree exactly with what joe was saying. it's tragic that paul whelan was left behind. it's tragic, by the way, mark fogle, somebody i know personally, is also sitting in jail unjustly in russia. he was a teacher at our high school when i was the ambassador. he taught my kids. he taught the kids of diplomats and soldiers in moscow. he's in jail too. that is tragic. but we can have those same two thoughts at the same time, right? we should celebrate this win and also encourage the administration to get these other americans out of jail. >> and so, ambassador, what does that look like from here? the president of the united states said yesterday, admiral kirby said to us this morning, of cou

jonathan lemire, katty kay, and former cia officer, marc polymeropoulos. an nbc news security and intelligence analyst. >> look at them, willie, if you look at them lined up, can we have the three shot so we can explain what everybody is going to be talking about. we've got katty. she's going to be talking about the harry and meghan special and the response, quite a story in the "times," marc is going to be talking about his problems with the griner/viktor bout swap, and jonathan lemire is going to talk about just how horrible it is being a red sox fan and how our heart breaks just a little bit every morning. we have lined it up. and of course i'm going to talk to you about baker mayfield, did you hear about baker last night? >> a big comeback, a couple of days after he signed with the new team. >> it's pretty crazy. >> here's baker mayfield. just kind of took that one over. not on roids this morning, i promise. did baker mayfield get cut by the panthers right? >> he got cut on monday. he comes in last night. learns the basic ins and outs of the playbook,

but cat katty kay, despite the jokes that can come with this and lo there are many.has done before. we're reminded of the stop the steal movement, he raised money from his supporters on the back of a lie, a lie that the election was stolen and that a lie now being investigated by several jurisdictions and though there's nothing criminal about these nfts except in their appearance, this is another moment, though, where trump is playing his supporters for suckers. will they ever stop giving in? >> yeah, it reminds me. do you remember the time in the 2016 campaign where he did a press conference at mar-a-lago, he had behind him bottles of trump water and magazines, and slabs of steak and stuff, and he was sort of, you know, i can't quite remember why he did this. i think it was when he was being accused of selling university plates at a university that didn't exist. he wanted to prove he sold stuff, and his supporters right from the beginning loved the fact that he was a successful businessman, and him selling stuff is a sign of a successful businessman. this nft thing

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jonathan, katty kay with us., takes in ideas from the members of the administration or congress on policy and ideas to talk to the president about and he sort of tries to direct and keep people away or get access for them. in this case, it's conspiracy theories and possibly martial law that mark meadows was dealing with. >> the gate was completely open. we learn more about that this morning. nearly two years later thousands of unseen publicly text messages revealing the lengths republican lawmakers went. there's 2,000 text messages to the house january 6 committee this year by former white house chief of staff meadows in conversation with at least 34 republican members of congress with many lawmakers sharing debunked conspiracy theories to help then former president trump stay in office. in a texz before the inauguration ralph norman writes our last hope is invoking marshal law with mar martial spelled incorrectly. he did respond to a plan to overturn the election floated by andy biggs after raising claims that i

i'm jonathan lemire alongside the bbc's katty kay. we're happy to report that msnbc contributor mike barnicle is joining us for the hour. we're in for joe, mika, and willie. catty, a lot of headlines to get to in this hour. >> the biggest one got mike off the ice rink earlier. >> landed a couple triple axels and came upstairs and -- >> i'm sort of disappointed he's changed out of his outfit, but there we go. >> and took the gold medal off. >> right. let's get to the headlines, mike, beyond yours. >>> the latest from buffalo where the national guard is going door to door checking on residents who lost power during the deadly blizzard. we'll have the latest as officials face scrutiny over that. and southwest airlines cancels more flights as it struggles to recover from the winter storm. the unions are speaking out about how the disaster could have been avoided. >>> and a federal judge cites evidence from the january 6th committee saying donald trump may have urged his supporters to do more than just protest on the day of the capitol att

i told joyce, we love to have you on, we love katty kay.cked her own time. >> nothing compares to the affordable care act, expanding health care to ten of millions of more americans and 150 million families having better benefits, lower cost and no preexisting condition, risking their access and no lifetime limits, being a woman no longer a preexisting condition. >> katty? >> yeah, i think i've said it on this show before -- thank you ari, for the education -- i said barack obama owes nancy pelosi flowers every day for the rest of his life and her life, because she got the affordable care act, and recently we've heard the speaker say she does it for the children. actually, the affordable care act did it for all americans. she mentioned, yes, it did it for younger americans, too, that stay on their parents' insurance. she was focused on all americans that didn't have health care coverage. it was the single biggest achievement in barack obama's eight years in office, and she was the woman responsible for it. >> yeah, i think you laid that out

special correspondent for bbc news, katty kay, and staff writer at the atlantic, david frum. mika and willie have the morning off. katty, obviously as you know i'm a bit of an anglafile, and i've grown up listening to speeches of churchill in the darkest days of 1940, going into the winter of '41, i think we have all read the history of that, the history of this relationship between churchill and roosevelt, churchill coming to the white house understanding that the new world needed to step in and save the old world in his words and i'm just wondering, with parents and grandparents and an entire generation that shaped your life having this as the defining moment, world war ii, victory in world war ii, a war in europe against a foreign tyrant. what were your thoughts last night, the parallels that you were drawing in your mind when president zelenskyy was addressing a joint session of congress. >> and of course even the timing that president zelenskyy himself referred to the fact that he was coming here just a couple of days before christmas. churchill came here to make a simila

this is katty kay. >> today, i had a strange conversation with my 22 year old, my 16 year old last night and i said, okay, i've booked you in for covid days. you both back for the holidays. you're going to get your booster's. and both of them said, no, we don't want to . we've had enough vaccines and we don't think we need them. how can you? i was sort of shocked and appalled. but is this the kind of response you're seeing from young people at the moment that they just they think this is over and they don't need any more vaccines? dr. siegel, isn't that exactly what young people should be thinking? do they need new year didas greeting them in twenty , twenty three ? what room? and i see this a little differently, but i do think that what's really appalling is the perpetuation of mandates, the idea that people going back to university ,some universities are mandating the booster. i don't think the myocarditis is very common. i think it's been overblown. i don't think it's a particularly unsafe shot, but i don't think that it should ever have been mandated. and i think that that's caused a

i'm jonathan lemire alongside the bbc's katty kay in for joe, willie and mika, and joining us, nbc news national affairs editor and host of a podcast, john heilemann. susan page is with us and christina greer. katty, start with the storm. the death toll continues to rise. americans continue to be stranded. >> yeah. by the way, all of those introductions were absolutely correct. there was no resume embellishment even for jon heilemann there. the troubles continue for southwest airlines and its passengers this morning. more than 2,500 additional flights expected to be canceled today again and the airlines says it could take days more to restore normal operations's more than 8,000 canceled flights since monday. southwest's ceo jordan says the airline has been unable to get flight crews where they need to be compounding the effects of the bad weather. in an interview on "nbc nightly news" last night, transportation secretary pete buttigieg demanded they take care of their travelers and employees. >> they told me they would go above and beyond i'm holding them accountable for doing that. >>

frank figliuzzi is here, former fbi assistant director for counterintelligence and katty kay. i saw this -- all three of you could have this conversation with us. ben, you write about this in your book, that this clash, this violent clash between democracies and autocracies is global. we can become so self-consumed here in this country. frank, you have talked about the inadequacy of the tool kit to deal with domestic threats. katty, you have been keeping our eyes on europe and the clashes happening there with the elections all year. i want to start with you, frank. tell me what you understand the details of this plot to be and how they foiled it. >> this is familiar. is it not? the scenario is uncanny, including the qanon influence, which i actually had not realized had reached germany to this kind of penetration level. look, there's differences and there's distinctions. the distinction in german law and operation and policy is where we should be focusing. first, let's compare and then we will contrast. like the united states, germany does not have a distinct, specific domesti