kelly o'donnell is back with me.wed a lot of people, why were they not able to find anyone? >> well, poring through documents that the court has just released, and the court has called this the grave assault on the judicial system, and a terrible betrayal, and what they have done is they have outlined the forensic steps they have taken and the headline is they have found no perpetrator and that is certainly a concern. now to take people back to what we are talking about, this was the dobbs case that overturned roe v. wade, and back in may, a draft opinion that indicated that the court's conservative majority would overturn the right to abortion in this country, was leaked, was published by "politico," and what that was able to do, as many analysts have looked at it, was in effect, to lock in the conservative justices, between the time of the release and the time of the ultimate decision being announced publicly, could that have changed the course of history? would that have affected decisions that the justices could

>> kelly o'donnell tonight, thank you. >>> this evening a former top fbi counter intelligence official has been indicted for allegedly helping a sanctioned russian billionaire and for allegedly taking hundreds of thousands in secret payments. ken dilanian is following this. what do we know? >> reporter: charles mcgonigal was the head of the new york fbi counter intelligence division, which meant his job was to protect the united states from improper foreign influence. he is now charged with profiting from foreign influence both while he worked as a top fbi official and after he left. while at the fbi, he secretly took $225,000 from a former albanian intelligence officer in what they call an illegal scheme to hide a conflict of interest. after he retired, mcgonigal went to work for oleg deripaska a sanctioned russian oligarch with close ties to vladimir putin. mcgonigal was arrested saturday at jfk airport in new york. he pleaded not guilty today and his lawyers say he intends to fight the charges. lester? >> ken delanian, thank you. >>> new convictions tonight for some of those that to

kelly o'donnell is senior white house correspondent. they are both joining us right now. kelly, this it announcement today comes after weeks of the administration suggesting that these tanks might not be effective. they are too complex and take too long to get ukrainians up to speed on them. to say nothing of the back and torte with germany. what changed? >> reporter: certainly officials are saying this is going to be a long-term commitment to ukraine. because these tanks will be procured, which means they are not ready on the shelf to be shipped in the next weeks. it will take months. part of this package of providing 31 of these tanks, which officials told us is the equivalent of what is needed for a ukrainian battalion, will include training that will come outside of ukraine. so u.s. intel and security experts who provide this kind of training for ukrainian troops will ultimately be using the technology will kind of get them up to speed for how to use the equipment, how to supply it, how to fuel it, all of the complex things that are art of the abrams tanks, which you w

i want to bring in senior white house correspondent kelly o'donnell, ali vitali is on capitol hill for us, joyce vance, the former u.s. attorney law professor at the university of alabama as well as an msnbc legal analyst. let's get to kelly. within the last hour, nbc news obtained these two letters that were sent from the attorney of the former vice president mike pence to the national archives. they detail the discovery of documents in the last week or so. walk us through what we know and what we're still learning as we speak. >> reporter: certainly, what this indicates is the former vice president is trying to demonstrate cooperation here through these letters with his lawyer laying out the timeline. and emphasizing the conversations, memorializing phone conversations he had with officials to tiend out the proper way of turning over these materials once they were discovered. and to try to make certain that the proper government authorities have them. it also indicates there was a surprise element of this as well. once they had done the notification, the fbi came to the pence residen

and kelly o'donnell is joining us. what is president biden saying about the impact this year, and the relationship between the president and mitch mcconnell. >> we have been separately watching the discord and dysfunction of the house gop where they have not been able to choose a new speak e and here the president is focus on the bipartisanship and focusing on the relationship with mitch mcconnell and other republicans to find where the president is stressing commonground on things like infrastructure where a bridge is going to be built, and bring jobs and connectivity and enhance the community in kentucky and ohio in that area, and politically what stood out today is how the president, clearly a democrat, coming into this time where he is going to be working with divided government stressed the relationship with mitch mcconnell. here is an example of that. >> leader mcconnell and i don't agree on a lot of thing, and in fact, we disagree on a lot of things. but here is what matters, he is a man of his word. when he giv

with me now kelly o'donnell at the white house, ken dilanian and matt miller, former chief spokesman the dea. ken, what more are we learning here about how the pence team turned over these documents and also could this potentially rise to a third special counsel? >> that's the big question, lindsey. in terms of the logistics of what happened here, pence's lawyers are saying that out of an abundance of caution in the wake of the biden revelations, pence decided to have them search his belongings to make sure he didn't have any classified documents after he proclaimed that he was sure that he didn't have any after he left the vice presidency. and they found four documents that contained documents that appeared to have classified markings. they say they turned them over to the national archives and then the justice department got involved and the archives said that the justice department bypassed traditional procedures and wanted to take possession of the documents and the pence team consented that they do that. it's unclear what the fbi and the justice department is doing here, whether

hallie. >> kelly o'donnell there. thank you. >>> mark murray is joining us now. our senior political editor. pull on the thread that kelly laid down there, that there is a juxtaposition for president biden and his white house today. >> this is a white house that dr. a lot of things to crow about. and whether it is the unemployment rate, whether it is the legislative successes that he has and it makes sense to be able to talk about this at this juncture. the two-year, it is now been in office for exactly two years. but there are challenges ahead. and not only with this document situation on the classified documents that are dealing with at an opportune time before the state of the union and before they make their 2024 intentions absolutely clear. but, hallie, it is also worth noting despite all of those successes, it is not like necessarily that the midterm environment, which was a very good outcome for democrats, better than they expected, was a referendum and a thumbs up on president biden and his leadership. still, the exit polls from what we ended up seeing in

i'm hallie jackson, with me now is nbc news senior white house correspondent kelly o'donnell who's with us. ryan noble, nbc news senior political editor mark murray, and julia ainsley is joins us as well. let me start with you, president biden in baltimore, set to take other trips this week, clearly meant to be a run up to the state of the union. he has a lot he wants to sell. he's also got some that's sort of a shadow hanging over him at this point. we mentioned the classified documents investigation. >> yes, this is the president, at least today, in a very comfortable familiar space, talking with amtrak behind him. and he has for so much of his career spent a lot of time riding back and forth between his delaware home and washington. and today talking about infrastructure and using over the next days, his emphasis on infrastructure as part of what he will talk about with the state of the union, and using the i-95 corridor, and trying to talk about the ways that policies that he has been able to enact with the help of democrats and republicans in congress to affect the lives of ordinar

kelly o'donnell, not missing a beat, despite the microsoft microphone, your voice careys.hank you very much. and garrett haake as well. >>> house democrats accusing kevin mccarthy of vengeance, with drama over the speaker's move to block adam schiff and eric swalwell from the intel committee and threatening to block ilhan omar from foreign affairs which would require, by the way a total house vote. listen to some of the response today. >> throughout this journey of vengeance, the flee three of us have decided to stick together because it is not an individual committee assignment, this is an institution where the speaker of the house is using his power to go after his political opponents and to pick them off. >> hakeem jeffries trying to talk mccarthy out of the move but the house speaker shot that down saying i appreciate the loyalty you have for your democratic colleagues but i cannot put partisan loyalty ahead of national security. ali vitali on the hill. this is a fight that has been previewed and that kevin mccarthy was going to get the speaker's gavel and now squarely

aaron. >> kelly o'donnell in our d.c.controversy surrounding george santos. he's already admitted and apologized for embellishing his background including his job and his education. well now he's facing questions about claims he made during his campaign that his mother was a 9/11 survivor. and about his time in brazil where he reportedly performed as a drag queen. i want to bring in nbc news capitol hill correspondent ryan nobles with us now. your team spoke with a navy veteran who accused santos of pocketing money from his dying dog's gofundme campaign. we heard this yesterday. is there any response from the congressman? >> yeah, the congressman is responding to these allegations, kate. not with any degrees of specificity. but this story from this disabled navy veteran who was homeless at the time, had a therapy dog who he absolutely loved, considered a member of his family and was in desperate need of cancer treatment for the dog and had reached out to santos through a charity asking for help. santos had launch the that

joining us with more is senior white house correspondent kelly o'donnell, marissa parra, and mya is president of the leadership conference on civil and human rights. so what do we know about the investigation? is it now over? >> reporter: the first chapter is certainly over. it may, in effect, be over. and that is the high court agreed to have this u.s. marshal do the investigation and then had an outside group led by former homeland security secretary review that work. and they have presented the report and they talked about the extensive interviews and forensic studies they have done. and that has concluded. but the door is not closed to potential new leads or any other information that may come forward. the headline is they are not able to tell us who was responsible for the leak of the draft that was published by politico in may weeks before the nation learned of the actual outcome of the dobbs case, which overturned the right to abortion. and such an enormous decision being leaked. the justices themselves say this is a grave breach and an injury to the court itself. so the stakes have be

kelly o'donnell, ken dilanian, garrett haake, thank you very much. let's talk about how this got to this point with larry. larry, i think as you're watching this, or you've heard about it, any of these documents and heard about pence, i think you just throw your hands up in the air and say god, these politicians are all the same, they're full of a bunch of hot air, they say one thing, they do another. i mean how does this happen? >> well, how does this happen, i think in this instance, in these instances, how it happened is we have people retaining lots of classified documents, perhaps sometimes when they no longer need them, and then they find themselves in the last days of an administration, scrambling to dispose of them, and mistakenly putting classified documents in with unclassified. and that's at least the case i think with pence and it appears to be the case with biden at least with his vice presidential documents. >> it is so easy to do. if it is so easy to misplace, should we expect to see more of this, i know the former presidents, the othe

and so what we need is more oversight about how domestic intelligence is done. >> so, kelly o'donnello look at moving forward. but it is also a day of remembering and one of the things the white house is remembering today is people who have defended democracy, who have done their jobs and done them well. tell us about what we're doing to see a little bit later on and what we're going to hear from president biden. >> reporter: part of what stands out is that no plan on the hill to mark the day because they weren't intending to be in town. the biden white house made careful plans to mark this day and evolve how the country looks at january 6th. not only about the violence and the dangers that day represented but trying to move forward to say how can the country and the president shine a light on those citizens who in their own individual ways were able to be defenders of democracy. and so the president will award the citizens metal to 12 americans who were a part of that day and a part of the larger issues that that day represents. so you'll have people who were a part of the events of

nbc's kelly o'donnell is at the white house. president can connect with a family and certainly for president biden we know that empathy is one of the things that he calls upon in moments like this. he has experienced personal loss, the deaths of close family members, and he reached out today, the white house said, as you indicated, this was a call to the parents of tyre nichols, and where the president was able to express his own condolences, those of the first lady, and noted the courage and strength shown by the nichols family in recent days, and separately from the podium today, during a white house briefing, we heard from the press secretary, and we asked quite a number of questions related to these events about the president's views on this, how he's likely to respond, and the message from the white house has been that the president is joining with the family to call for a peaceful response to the video that is scheduled to be released later today and to honor the life of tyre nichols by listening to the family, and at the

nbc news white house correspondent kelly o'donnell is with us. and we know the president is on the ground. it is one of these situations where the pool of reporters who follows him is with him. we're going to be get be live shots, we will be dropping live shots, it is one of those fluid moments here. talk through how important it was for the president to be there in person today. and what you heard from the white house on that front. >> reporter: well critically important, because the president needs to do a few different things. on a human level, it is about connecting with people who have gone through really remark able period in their life, where they have suffered some catastrophic losses around their homes, their businesses, there will be long-term ongoing problems with trying to clean up, rebuild, and fix things. in a larger sense, there are policy implications to all of this, when it comes to how do you deal with some of these climate-related and weather-related instances of storms that we have seen ratcheting up in their severity. and the

joining us now, kelly o'donnell and charlie savage. broke that latest story in the times today. kelly, this is the fifth revelation about classified terrible. four batches in total. talk to us about the unprecedented search in his home that took place in secret on friday, which was disclosed on saturday. >> really extraordinary when you think about a sitting president opening his doors and allowing the fbi and the department of justice to go room by room and have access to anything. that's how it's been described to us by the white house through a spokesman and they say there was no search warrant involved here. that it was voluntary. that president biden wanted to give access as a part of this investigation and there have now been five dates since november across these last three months in which four batches as the white house describes it, of materials that are at some level of classification that belonged in government control and not in the personal possession of the president. those have now been turned over. but there are questions. we don't know what kinds of documents the

nbc senior white house correspondent kelly o'donnell has details and some reaction, as well.g. >> reporter: good morning, hoda. the white house is unable to provide a specific description of the total items removed, how many pages, what kinds of documents, and what level of classification are we dealing but they emphasize the president is fully cooperating and invited the department of justice to go room by room through his house. new questions about more secret government papers found inside the biden's delaware home after a stunning weekend announcement that the fbi spent 13 hours friday pouring over the private residence of the sitting president. a rare step the white house called voluntary and not the result of a search warrant. >> the president takes this seriously. that's why the president and his lawyers offered up unprecedented access to every single room. >> reporter: in a statement, the president's personal lawyer explained that the department of justice removed six items consisting of documents with classification markings and surrounding materials dating back to m

i want to bring in nbc's senior white house correspondent, kelly o'donnell.i understand the white house just held a call with reporters. did we, one, get any new information and does the fact that they had this call signal a little shift in strategy by the white house? >> it is notable and we always welcome as reporters the chance to have this kind of a call with officials. it's a standard sort of practice in washington where a government official is on a, in this case, a zoom call, where lots of reporters have access. the government official in this case, ian sams, who was on the record, he represents the white house counsel's office. he's the spokesperson for the white house. is taking questions and providing information to reporters. so a number of reporters were able to ask questions, but in terms of getting new information, that was more limited. what this official was able to do was to say that the president and the white house is fully cooperating with the department of justice on this department's matter and that they recognize there is tension betwee

here with me is nbc news white house correspondent kelly o'donnell, who covers the supreme court, cecilberly adkins-store and victoria defrancesco. kelly, let's start with the unprecedented breach at the supreme court. what details are in the report? it was done by the federal marshall. it was an inside report. they didn't bring in the fbi. they didn't bring in other forensics. how are both former president trump and the biden white house reacting? >> reporter: there were big expectations for this internal review. they did have the michael churdoff group look at the work done. the bottom line is they found no one responsible. to sort of explain that unsatisfying answer, they gave us some of the details. they said they did 126 formal interviews. that was focused on 97 employees of the court. one of the interesting things that came of that is that they found that a number of employees acknowledged that they had shared with a spouse that they were aware of the draft report and the vote count relating to the dobbs case that overturned the constitutional right to abortion. they also had done

with me now is kelly o'donnell and justice and intelligence correspondent, ken dilanian. we're about to see the president soon at this event for the golden state warriors. we'll see if he takes any questions. we know it's probably unlikely in this setting, but we know something interesting from the white house. not just this news briefing, but this press call on pushback. on the way the white house has handled the documents, which seemed clearly indicated at trying to tell democratic allies, listen, we're on this. we're on top of it and we're handling it. talk us through it. >> certainly the white house is feeling like it's on defense and part of what they're trying to do so respond is a two-pronged strategy. having the white house press secretary, the face of the white house in terms of public communication, speaks for the president, does a daily televised briefing, and yet she is referring questions on these matters to the white house council's office, which is tra tishlly one of the most least publicly facing departments within the executive branch that you'll ever see

marissa parra is in washington ahead of the rally and our senior white house correspondent kelly o'donnellis also with us with new reporting on trump and his relationship with evangelical community. the rally is expected to start at noon eastern. what can we expect and what are you hearing from people on both sides? >> good afternoon to you. you can tell, it is fully under way, the concert just started within the last half-hour or so here. and so what you can see is that even though we have a world post-roe, they are still marching. they say as long as abortions are still happening, they will keep taking to the march. and so when it comes to how both sides are feeling, the consensus here is that when it comes to both supporters and opponents of abortion rights, they say that the dobbs ruling was truly galvanizing because for them the fight is far from over. >> we've got a long way to go. so perhaps instead of saying that we've reached our goal, a better way of saying this would be we're in the next season. >> there's a lot of confusion about what is safe, what we're able to do. when i say

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