the personal on the cia base in khost, the base was led by jennifer matthews. and mother of three who lived in virginia, not terribly far from where we are now. she came in along the way in the aftermath of this attack for a lot of criticism. let's start at the beginning. why was she chosen for what was a very, very important post? >> guest: she's a remarkable character in all right. she did as you say, she came under quite a bit of criticism after the attack for perhaps being naÏve and maybe too trusting of this informant when he was coming onto the base. this was a woman who paid her dues with the cia and had become a repeat of about about a decade and a half the most knowledgeable al qaeda expert the cia had. she was there before al qaeda was known by almost anyone, arguing and agitating, paying more attention to these guys, and dangers. we should take this as a after 9/11 happened, her and her entire al qaeda branch in say a were screaming, we told you so. this was a huge mistake that we didn't pay attention to these people. we should have taken out al qaed

what used to be one of the most beautiful on the african a train in khost now looks like collected and duty. with fighting still continuing in parts of the city but in the rebels and gadhafi forces an army of another kind has taken to the streets where clearly. we have forty one years they have finished all of this and now. clean all. over the last in line. with police no longer on the ground armed volunteers maintain order something that ordinary residents are very concerned about if there is a gun they say it will fire sooner or later was. and the people. came to the biggest aquaduct in the world tripoli has been without trying water for more than a week already and you authorities claim is due to technical problems not because of the street fighting. that's not good weapons in the hands of youngsters on professional people. someone calls himself a leader in middle class now the rhaetian are poor his family lives in the mood his house in the center of tripoli but just like every resident they are struggling. this is hard i wish kloofs like women were doing fifty years ago with hands

the mother of this jordanian doctor who you know blew himself up and killed eight of our people in khost. who says her son did good that's great that's what that's what a good believer should do but that is not we're not going to jail terms drone strikes you're only going to change that by working with people who believe differently to what you do you agree with with tennis but either i do know it by first off i question why is he saying all this now i mean you know now just a little don't you have to do what he has and he has to resign to me do you think that kind of thing is going to get out of like you have to step down something here and you guys i've actually retired the e-mail. my retirement orders even given to me so it's all upset they are with me right now with that said i always question people i've i started talking about religion before i got out i wonder about what he could have done more to save us now the of the drone program has three props first off it gives the appearance of progress i think it's one of the reasons they're so intimate with it right now secondly it's ver

the mother of this jordanian doctor who you know blew himself up in there and killed four people in khost. who says you know son did good that's great that's what that's what a good police should do but it's not we're not going to change the terms drone strikes you're going to change that by working with people who believe differently to what you do you agree with within this letter i do now first off i question why i'm saying all this now i mean you know just a little note you have to appear here he had to resign to me do you think that kind of thing is going to hours i may have to step down so i'm going to you guys i'm actually retired to elevate the e-mail. my retirement orders even given so it's all there with me right now that said i always question people i've i started talking about religion before i got out i wonder about what he could have done more to say this now do you do it with a drone program has three props first off it it gives the appearance of progress i think that's one of the reasons they have they're so enamored with it right now secondly it's very expensive and agai

so, there was a back and forth between the americans at khost, the base where they were all staying, and also a back and forth to washington. "how do we handle this man? do we trust him or not?" it was quite a robust argument. in the end, the imperative was to meet the person, and so the cautions were just disregarded. >> warner: now, they could've spped him even up to the last minute, yet he gets in with going through no screening. how did that happen? >> this is really remarkable. >> warner: you mean, all these high-level-- not high-level, but senior cia people... >> yes. there are traditions within the cia for dealing with informants, and you never trust them because you're not sure who they bed and who they are threatened by. so just as a matter of routine, they are often searched as soon as they get into the car. someone checks them just to make sure they are not wearing wires, for example, let alone bombs. in this case, because he was so valuable and because they wanted to see him so urgently, and they were so worried about taliban spies, they allowed him to get through three l