no, fix the problem and -- >> is there anything to it, kirsten?ng, hey look, if we kick them off the people, people will fear coming forward. also she believes if somebody does wrong, maybe first offense they deserve, i'm not defending this, i'm simply asking the question, she is saying they deserve in some cases a second chance? she she doesn't want a universal field they're kicked off the field right away? >> i'm not sure where she gets the idea people would be afraid to come forward. there are nfl wives that came forward and complained and they were ignored. may be a fair point on case-by-case basis, maybe there is chance for intervention an you sis spend the player. if you have a case where somebody knocks somebody unconscious, then -- >> at the end of the day, isn't the problem that the nfl wasn't harsh enough all along? to kirsten's point, they were ignoring claims of domestic abuse? >> yes to all of that but i think it is really complicated by our courts are doing or not doing with regard to domestic violence. you're asking the nfl to make

of the kirsten, are you an attorney?opout. >> close enough. >> i got year-and-a-half. i have enough information to be dangerous. >> close enough. what do you think about, first of all, let me get it out of the way. i don't think the judge did anything wrong here. >> really? >> no. i just said that because i want every woman in america to snap her head back at the tv. totally disagree with the judge but i want to hear what -- >> first of all, ridiculing somebody when your baby is crying? that's horrible. i mean, so, but, i guess, what is the, what are the rules in this situation if somebody has a young child and they, can you get, i mean, usually we can get out of the going to court for jury duty or whatever if you have a conflict. >> judges have a lot of discretion. judges can grant and deny continuances at whim. in the criminal case you have the peril of retrying the case. my perspective is, we have hundreds of cases. some have thousands of cases. so this woman is on maternity leave. why would you deny it? >> yeah. >> h

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kirsten, you're going to have to try to make some sense of this for me. >> can you? >> so the unemployment dropped from 6.1 to 5.9%. headline number appears to be very good. however, when americans are asked, they just don't feel much better. >> well, it's great that it's dropped, but it's still a pretty high unemployment number, right? i mean, i don't think this means that business is booming and everybody has jobs, and i think there's also, you know, wage growth is pretty stagnant as well, so that speaks to how people feel about their income and whether they have enough money to pay for, pay their bills. and so i think as long as wages are stagnant, people -- regardless of what the jobs are doing -- are going to -- >> great point. so if they're earning less, they're not able to spend as much, and they're not affording the lifestyle that they had before. brian, there's also the factor of the unemployment rate can sometimes come down when people stop looking for work. okay? >> right. >> because the unemployment rate, obviously, looks at those that are actually active

tucker and kirsten will be going at it, i know..com/outnumbered, click on the overtime tab, and when you get there -- >> so excited. oh, my god. >> and that's how you can get in on the conversation. look for it. and then we're also watching our twitter and facebook so talk to us. stay close. ♪ ♪ ♪ i thought it'd be bigger. ♪ ♪ (dad) there's nothing i can't reach in my subaru. (vo) introducing the all-new subaru outback. love. it's what makes a subaru,a subaru. ♪ ♪ >> well, parliament expected to vote in about 20 minutes to step up turkey's role in the fight against isis. all day long law makes have been debating -- lawmakers have been debating whether to allow foreign troops for the operation as isis is pressing forward with their attack on a kurdish town along the syria/turkey border. meanwhile, a new fox news poll shows people support boots on the ground if airstrikes don't work by a ten-point margin, but charles krauthammer says that support won't last if the u.s. actually sends combat troops. >> that is the number you get when

kirsten joe brown "off the sidelines" it really is inspirational. it's deeply personal and funny and truly an instructive book. thank you so much. let me explain. i have this little job for you to cover his speech if i have to be on the air by edit clock on capitol hill because the president is giving a speech tonight. the senator has kindly -- so you will have a chance to ask her questions but unfortunately i have to go and do this thing. >> i am so pleased. [applause] thank you. see later you later. >> thank you all so much. [applause] >> now we are going to take questions from the audience or just stand up and come up to the microphone and ask away. >> come to the mic and everybody can hear your questions. thank you. >> so you talk a lot about women and violence and i'm a domestic violence survivor. i spent two and a half years with a -- and they got to the point where they refuse to prosecute because the final episode started because i reached for a bag of items that he stole from me and that was the i caused it from the district attorney, femal

kirsten and a bill, because you have a collapse of confidence, credibility and confidence in the federal government to do anything. so now what the potential of an exotic and deadly virus in our own shores being transmitted, we don't know exactly how in some cases. you have no confidence on the part of the american people to give federal government can handle this or that we are getting the truth in an accurate and timely way. >> i don't understand how this is a national security threat first and foremost. we are not being attacked by ebola. >> we have our military -- our military has been sent without training into west africa so they are not properly equipped either. >> nobody is is attacking the country with ebola. and i don't know -- you know, i can't keep straight, like i thought the government was completely incompetent but now francis

thank you. >> kirsten powers also with me, as i mentioned. kirsten, the argument in favor of the ban that is arguably the most persuasive is you look at nigeria about to be cleared ebola free by world officials after instituting the ban. and they say that's evidence that the ban, while controversial, works. >> i think there are a lot of other things that nigeria did though. they were so aggressive in terms of containing it. it was probably a lot that we could learn from them. they met with something like 30,000 face-to-face interviews where they figured out any person who could potentially come in contact. they actually met with them to make sure they were not sick. they weren't doing what our cdc did which was, oh, you don't have a high enough -- go ahead and go. they treated it with the seriousness that i think it needed to be treated with. i don't know if maybe the ban on flying in is just a piece -- >> that was an interesting interview because this is what i talked to dr. frieden about. i get his concern about the bigger ebola grows in we

i have to ask you this before i let you go, kirsten. panetta is a clinton guy. a political aspect of this? she's going to run. she's been distancing herself from the obama policies. >> i don't think so. he's not an operator in that way, i don't think. and i think the kinds of criticism that he's making are so substantive and specific, i don't think he would try to do that just -- >> thank you both. >> thank you. >> you bet. >>> this fight over iraq is the latest in a series of arguments about what the government says is happening and what appears to actually be happening. is this creating a crisis of confidence? governor mike huckabee is here on that. plus, breaking news next on new steps to quarantine more americans possibly infected with or at least exposed to ebola and whether or not the feds can prevent new cases from flying to the united states. can the president do it or can't he? wait until you hear the answer. >> the cdc last week said the chances of importing ebola is chances of importing ebola is infinitesimal it's a fresh approach on education-- super

thank you. >> kirsten powers also with me. kirsten, argument in favor of the ban that is arguably the most persuasive is you look at nigeria about to be cleared ebola free by world officials after instituting the ban. and they say that's evidence that the ban while controversial works. >> i think there are a lot of other things that nigeria did though. they were so aggressive in terms of containing it. it was probably a lot that we could learn from them. they met with something like 30,000 face-to-face interviews where they figured out any person who could potentially come in contact. they actually met with them to make sure they were not sick. they weren't doing what our cdc did which was, oh, you don't have a high enough -- go ahead and go. they treated it with the seriousness i think it needed to be treated with. i don't know if maybe the ban on flying in is just a piece -- >> that was an interesting interview because this is what i talked to dr. frieden, i get his concern about the bigger ebola grows in west africa the les

kirsten and perry can probably think of one also. is a foreign policy crisis that just pops up. issues like ebola, events like ebola are probably going to be par for the course for the 21st century. we have cyber crimes. we have terrorist issues all over the world. i think that what's surprising about elections actually is when there is not an october surprise. in terms of the little b s of t- little bitzation of this issue. >> there is a picture of nina pham with the president here. they embrace each other. what's your thought about that? >> the president is trying to reduce -- you know, make people feel calm. the whole idea of bringing her to the white house is the president of the united states is here with someone who had ebola. he is not concerned about that. >> the president is trying to communicate most aren't in danger of contracting ebola any time soon. does it matter in this politicized universe? i'm not sure. hurricane sandy happened near the 2012 elections. that was a big surprise. i would argue again did it change many v

kirsten tower kirsten. >> the ebola hearing -- >> i think what is sort of striking about the way thehing is playing out, today we have this press conference before the show where chris christie and andrew cuomo were taking steps that the cdc and the obama administration never considered. and it turns out, these are from blue states. it turns out that at the local level, even in new york city of all places, there are lots more things the government can do to stop the spread of ebola than what the federal government has been doing. i don't think there's a lot of panic about ebola in this country, people talk as if -- there's a lot of smug people in the main stream media talk about how there's a panic in this country. to the extent there's any panic now, it's a panic of a crisis of confidence that the -- >> so >>some -- the same people that rolled out the obama website. it's irrational to be a little nervous about that. and we have a lot of condescending stuff, a lot of people in the main stream media, a lot of people in government who make it seem that any rational concern about this i

yeah, i think kirsten is right.u look at the lead of the jeffrey goldberg article that everyone is talking about, he said the white house is more frustrated with benjamin netanyahu than any other world leader right now. it includes vladimir putin, it includes something as difficult as karzai was. that suggests to me that this is a net. but don't buy these other factor, and i was at the border of gaza, and i met with the mayors of these border towns, and i saw where the rockets landed and i saw how big the rockets were. then you look at the numbers, 4,000 of them that were fired at them, the people of israel were shocked at the lack of support. there was a little bit of verbal support, but they feel there was a total lack of understanding what it is israel is dealing with from the administration. do you think there is a disconnect? >> well, i think there definitely has been a shift with the obama administration in terms of our relationship with israel. i think that would be hard to deny. and certainly i think a lot o

just to answer kirsten's point. super majority in both houses of congress for first two years.t's where he slams into place higher taxes, massive regulations, obamacare, massive government spending, and when he lost control of the house, what did he do? he went around the congress executive orders, bureaucracies, the czars to get through what he wanted. so you can't really claim that the republicans holding 1/3 of the government could really block. >> sea good leader can persuade. a good leader can say look, this is the policy that's best for the country and get all you pinheads together. >> the house republicans are not persuadable. >> she might be right. she might be right. >> you can say the same thing about the democrats which have been completely overtaken by the far left. >> i have got to go. your time is up. next on the rundown, are republicans surging in the polls or not? we will tell you. later, two california police officers shot dead because the federal government will not protect americans from not protect americans from .. ...heartburn. did someone say burn? try al

and i'm reading kirsten's book. when you're talking about her poked and being called chubby, it's totally, completely unacceptab unacceptable. but i will say, we women have to pick our battles. is it worth bringing down that person at that moment or working on a higher level making more change, which is what she's doing. >> i do understand the whole thing a about picking your pat battles. i carefully pick my battles. >> no, you don't. >> i pick that one. >> you pick aum of them. >> you need to read kirsten's book, it's really good. >> i'm in the middle of it. i read most to have last night. . >> she's coming on the show. >> speak of reading "the wall street journal", i tried to e-mail this. "the wall street journal" digitally is in the 1940s. whoever running "the wall street journal," you guys deliberately make your website so pathetic that we have to buy the paper. they have an op-ed on hillary clinton and monica lewinsky and we're going to be getting to that. it is a barn burner. you can't read it online. >> i thi

. >> joining me, kirsten powers.good job to that local nbc reporter who sensed a dodge and didn't get off of her question. and ultimately got an answer, kirsten, after we heard about how he's got a lot on he has plate and maybe he's a little late to the table. >> yeah. you would think that these democratic candidates would have sort of a canned answer for this question instead of this meandering around and not being able to answer whether they voted for him or refusing to answer, things like that. it's sort of strange that they can't have just a very simple answ answer. >> it makes them look bad. this is not an honest broker. not an honest broker. >> yeah. seems like they could just say basically just turn it around onto what the race is really about that the race is really about them and not get into a situation say there are some things i agree with him and some things i don't agree with him on. >> why can't they just say, yes, he is a strong leader. there are things that i disagree with him on. >> yeah. >> there's

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kirsten joe brown "off the sidelines" it really is inspirational. it's deeply personal and funny and truly an instructive book. thank you so much. let me explain. i have this little job for you to cover his speech if i have to be on the air by edit clock on capitol hill because the president is giving a speech tonight. the senator has kindly -- so you will have a chance to ask her questions but unfortunately i have to go and do this thing. >> i am so pleased. [applause] thank you. see later you later. >> thank you all so much. [applause] >> now we are going to take questions from the audience or just stand up and come up to the microphone and ask away. >> come to the mic and everybody can hear your questions. thank you. >> so you talk a lot about women and violence and i'm a domestic violence survivor. i spent two and a half years with a -- and they got to the point where they refuse to prosecute because the final episode started because i reached for a bag of items that he stole from me and that was the i caused it from the district attorney, femal

. >> joining me, kirsten powers. job to that local nbc reporter who sensed a dodge and didn't get off of her question. and ultimately got an answer, kirsten, after we heard about how he's got a lot on he has plate and maybe he's a little late to the table. >> yeah. you would think that these democratic candidates would have sort of a canned answer for this question instead of this meandering around and not being able to answer whether they voted for him or refusing to answer, things like that. it's sort of strange that they can't have just a very simple answ answer. >> it makes them look bad. this is not an honest broker. not an honest broker. >> yeah. seems like they could just say basically just turn it around onto what the race is really about that the race is really about them and not get into a situation say there are some things i agree with him and some things i don't agree with him on. >> why can't they just say, yes, he is a strong leader. there are things that i disagree with him on. >> yeah. >> there's alw

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. >> inspires kirsten san francisco beautiful san francisco's market because of its unique character will be instituted. >> put in place to guide the plaintiff and how better to protect the character of our neighborhood thanks to the supervisor mar and we're happy to see the signage and toifgs for ground floor retail when i here people talk about again and again how difficult and on and on reduce it is for small businesses to get their conditional use we added planning staff to see to the enforcement and expediting the permits so if it takes 4 months we look to the city in helping them ousted and thanks yourself work and i support the amendments to the regulation and thank you very much. next speaker. >> good afternoon, supervisors eileen i'm actively representing the building owners and sf my client is behind me i want to pick up but i want to start with you was brought into this process to participate in first, the study that was funded and instigated by the plaintiff and thanks again for taking on a topic you don't see this regulation for but the plaintiff was looking at the propo

kirsten sinema hasn't done her job. >> reporter: a democratic spokesman called the ad reprehensible and accused rogers of using footage of an american tragedy for political gain. but the rogers campaign argued it was only using current events to show differences between the candidates, like several other republican challengers have done. >> while isis grew, obama kept waiting, and kay hagan kept quiet. >> reporter: in ad after ad, republicans fault the president and, by extension, democrats in congress for allowing isis to grow unchecked. >> president obama and senator shaheen seem confused about the nature of the threat. not me. >> reporter: it's a potent argument for outsiders. in today's cbs news poll, 36% of americans said the obama administration's policies have made the country less safe from terrorism. 77% of respondents said congress did only a fair or poor job assessing the isis threat. anticipating such attacks, some incumbent democrats like colorado's senator mark udall have released their own ads. >> intelligence committee member, chair of the committee to defeat isis with f

joining us in the studio is kirsten grives. she is a doctoral candidate in the department of sociology at ucla and the author of"mirror mirror off the ll, how i learned to love body by not looking at it for a year." now, i can't imagine th because of the nature of the work that i do. so i'm looking at the headline and thinking i couldn't do that. so youpent a long time working on this book. >> i did. >> tell me what the motivation was. >> well, as a sociology graduate student, my research focus is on body image and women'sissues. so i surprised myself that when i was engaged to be married i kind of got caughtup in all of that bridal hoopla about looking beautiful that one day and i felt so frustrated with myself about my own body image issues that i decided to needed something big to push back on that bigedia telling me i needed to look perfect. >> first tell me about th uncomfortableness you had with your body image. >> well, when i was in high school and college, i had anorexia. i recovered from it, butart of recovery is stay

kirsten had the furry coat. >> no, i am layered like a j crew. is anybody else cold in here?airplane is the worst. you get on the airplane and it is comfortable and the woman said can you turn up the heat a little bit? you are like no. >> you can ask them to turn up the heat? >> you get on the plane and it is frigid on there. and how can something be so cold and stinky? >> it is the same on the train. you have to have a winter coat in the middle of the summer. >> you like that? >> no, i don't. >> you love cuddling up with the blankets. >> if you keep the house warm your wife will love you more. >> you spoke up so soon. >> no, it is not true. then you have to hug her. >> and part of the game. >> we love it when a woman has goose bumps on her arm. >> take away and get someone you are temperature compatible with. >> keep it on fnc. tune in for complete coverage with bret baier and megyn kelliy. speaking of bret baier, he is our hashtag lucky guy. and have a great weekend. let's go get our sweaters girls. >> accused killer of a pennsylvania state trooper is now behind bars. >> er

. >>> a lister kirsten stewart knocking the military and defending gitmo detainees during a publicityabout guantanamo bay. she trash the army gitmo guard calling her simple and not very smart. she goes on to say it is unfair to judge the detainees at guantanamo bay because they are not any different from any one else. >> with a net worth of almost $3 billion entrepreneur marc cuban is one of the richest people in the country and one of the most famous. what does he think about the direction our country is going? >> i want to believe the country is better when it is more laz sgla fair. you can't change the rules mid stream. we have to look at where we are at. it is like ron paul let's get rid of everything. you ha you can't do that mid stream here's where we are at this is where we want to get and how would de gwe get there? >> couldn't miss the full interview with marc cuban. >> cheering his girlfriend on the side lines during the game. not only did he come home early from the middle east, he tossed the question. >> looks like we have got a yes. >> of course she said yes. and this mus

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michigan, kirsten powers calls you hysterical for your coverage of ebola.ghtly concerned. i see her as indifferent. oregon, bill, why even have the doctor on "the factor," i want to hear dissenting points of view and you did not give him time to speak. i went back and looked. you're right. i should have give him more time. president obama purposely let the isis situation get out of control and dwert attention from health care. all the talking points are now centered around -- you think those two issues are going to help the president? come on. new york, o'reilly, i watched dr. frieden on kelly as you requested inday. tip of the i think he's a weasel. i wanted to reach out and wring his neck. you were ans er about frieden, answered with sweet sounding nonanswers. he should be the white house press secretary. juan luiz rodriguez, the state of texas should sue thomas duncan's estate for the costsin cured from h s lying. i disagree with charles krauthammer. at some point african-americans must put reality over racial solidarity. why? why would they do that? muc

. >> kirsten powers is also with me. the argument in favor of the ban you look at senegal and nigeria which will be declared ebola free after instituting the ban. they say that's evidence that the ban while controversial works. >> i think there were a lot of other things that nigeria did. they were so aggressive in terms of containing it. there's a lot we could learn from them. they did something like 30,000 face to face interviews where they figured out any person who could potentially come in contact they met with them to make sure they were not sick. they weren't doing what ours were doing. oh you don't have a high enough fever go ahead and go. they treated it with the seriousness itynu needed to be treated. i don't know maybe the ban on flying in is a piece. >>>> i get his concern about the bigger ebola grows in west africa the less safe we are more people could potentially try to come over. now that we have seen the holes, well meaning people running why why can't we pass those up? >> i agree with what the president

lauderdale, florida, i agree with kirsten powers. going on behind the scenes with pakistan, bill. i do know the taliban continues to operate openly. the pakistani doctor who pinpointed bin laden to the u.s. has been put in prison for 20 years. jihadist flood into pakistan to be trained. enough? hershey, pennsylvania. bill, you were right about pakistan and other muslim nations that support the jihad. with that doctor in prison who in the right mind would cooperate with america? mike, america's georgia, ts downfall in secret service began when it was moved from the secret service to treasury department. california, bill, you were only half right when it comes to the left disparaging killing patton. they only despise you, not patton. call the general the war loving martinet. bill, you miss the obvious when it comes to the left leaning media criticizing president obama. they're trying to distance themselves from his failures so they will have credibility when they support hillary clinton. thomas, marina del rae, you two make any issue c