marc klaas, father of the late polly klaas. we'll have more on this tomorrow night. jerry brown's here. he was california governor before and wants the job again. ask me. even if you think your mattress is just fine... >>> after months of hints and speculation, attorney general jerry brown has officially joined the race to secede arnold schwarzenegger as governor of california. he launched the campaign with a three minute, 17-second video on his website. he joins us here in l.a. why? two terms you served. why do you need this? >> well, i don't need it, but the state's in deep trouble and the next governor needs the preparation, the know-how, and the knowledge to fix this state. and that's what i can offer and that's why i'm doing it. >> larry: is this state in a failed state? >> it's failing, but it has not failed completely by any means. our wealth creation last year was over $1.5 trillion, so we've got a lot of resources, we've got the creativity, but we've got to stop that bickering, that poisonous partisanship in sacramento. i think they need someone in there wit

marc klaas, the father of poly klaas, the founder of the polly klaas foundation is with us from san francisco. you worked on this, did you not? you know the parents? >> i don't know the parentses, i've spoken to them on the phone. most recently today, not long before the announcement. i know they were very hopeful. they were very strong in their search for their daughter. but there have also been many other high-profile cases that i have been involved in down in the san diego area. i think that the response is a reflection of the community's putting its foot down and saying, we're just not going to take this anymore. as the reporter just said it was absolutely extraordinary how thousands of people came out in response to this girl's disappearance. >> larry: why, marc, do these stories 99% of the time end tragically? >> well, they end tragically because for some reason society continues to take known sexual predators and put them back out onto the streets. what we know, larry h, is nevern the history of the world has a sigh co-path been cured or a sexual predator. we give them minimal sentence

in san francisco, our friend marc klaas. klaas kids foundation. his 12-year-old daughter polly abducted and murdered in 1993. dr. kalisch, you are a colleague of dr. matthew carroll, the court-appointed psychiatrist who interviewed john albert gardner with a sentencing recommendation on his 2000 molestation of a 13-year-old girl. was his assessment -- what was that assessment and did you agree with it? >> well, larry, i've been doing this work for 30 years, and i have rarely seen a report that was more clear and more unambiguous than the report that dr. carroll did. it was well thought out. well reasoned. he threw up as big a red flag as any psychiatrist possibly could. he was deliberate in his thinking and his analysis and pointed out that this is a man who had no remorse for what he did. he took no responsibility for what he did. and he didn't admit what he did. and doctor -- >> larry: so why did he only serve five years? >> apparently there was a plea agreement that dr. carroll's warning wasn't heeded, and he wasn't charged and prosecuted as fu

. >> out to marc klaas, president and founder of klaaskids foundation. a tireless crusader for victims and missing people. marc, what do you think? >> well, i think the one common theme in every one of these jailhouse conversations with misty is that she's whining and begging and doing anything she can to find a way to get out of jail. and with leonard's very generous offer on the table, and it's been on the table for some time, i believe that if she had anything, anything at all, she wouldn't be listening to her lawyer. she wouldn't be listening to her mother. she would be talking to leonard and arranging to get out of jail. she hasn't done it. she has nothing. if the police are going to solve this case, they're going to have to go back to the binge prior to the night that haleigh disappeared. that's probably where they're going to find the truth. >> dr. lillian glass joining us from l.a. what do you think, lillian? >> i think she's a pretty obnoxious entitled person in saying that god is going to give her an answer. she's got a lot of information that

but to marc klaas, president and founder of klaaskids foundation. marc, what do you make of all this? >> well, you know, if i were natalee's parents, i would be guardedly optistic that there might be something there. i don't believe that the arubans have ever demonstrated any kind of a will to solve this case. >> me either. i don't get it. and i'll tell you this. judge paulus van der sloot collapses dead on a tennis court, and now within 24 hours of hearing about this photo they send out a dive team. that's a little encouraging. >> well, it is a little encouraging. it would be a lot more encouraging if the holloways were able to send out their own dive teams or the fbi were invited in to do it. because i just don't see that these people really want to pursue this the way it really needs to be pursued if it's going to be solved. >> you know, marc, for some reason they don't give a fig. either at one point there was a cover-up and now they don't want to admit they're wrong -- but come on, marc klaas, even prosecuting him for moving a dead body, that's

mark kalisch, psychiatrist, dip lo mate, in francis, our friend marc klaas. dr. kalisch, you are a colleague of dr. matthew carroll, the court-appointed psychiatrist who interviewed john gardner with a sentencing recommendation on the 2000 molestation. what was that assessment? and did you agree with it? >> well, larry, i've been doing this work for 30 years, and i have rarely seen a report that was more clear that dr. carroll did. it was well thought out. he threw up as big a red flag as any psychiatrist possibly could. he was deliberate in his thinking and his analysis, and pointed out that this is a man who had no remorse for what he did. hoe took no response. >> larry: so why did he only serve five years? >> apparently there was a plea agreement that dr. carroll's warning wasn't heeded, and he wasn't charged and prosecuted as fully as he could have been. >> larry: marc klaas, why does this go out? >> first of all, i think we have to listen to the experts. as dr. kalish said, he's been in business 30 years doing these kinds of assessments. we've taken it to an

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not only it is not standard from my experience, but i actually got off the phone with marc klaas today and said have you ever seen a situation in your experience where abducted family members have not known anything about the status of the case or the investigation whatsoever? and frankly, it's even really different in terms of how the san diego d.a.'s office and the police handled chelsea king's abduction and murder. >> larry: do you know how they found amber? >> no. we have the reward out there. and you know if it's someone that deserves the reward -- you don't know how they got a lead or anything? that. >> said in time you'll find out. >> larry: where was she found? >> she was found outside the pala indian reservation on a very remote area. >> larry: was that far away from where she was taken? >> 25 miles. >> larry: carrie, thank you. when we know more, we'll have you back. robin, you'll be with us later. >>> a one-time contestant on the dating game has just been convicted of five counts of first-degree murder. he previously served time for attacking two girls. we're going to talk t