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and prevention measures. those are the pillars of labour's reform agenda , and labour's reform agenda, and great britain finishedners up in the paris paralympic medal table following a total haul of 124. >> the figure second only to china. comprised of 49 gold, 44 silver and 31 bronze, with gb securing titles in 18 of the 19 sports entered. britain ended today with two more golds and two silvers. his majesty the king earlier sent his heartfelt congratulations to paralympics gb and commonwealth athletes for their numerous success at the paris games . and those are the paris games. and those are the latest gb news headlines. for now i'm tatiana sanchez. now it's now i'm tatiana sanchez. now wsfime now i'm tatiana sanchez. now it's time for headlines for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com. >> forward slash alerts . >> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> hello and welcome to headliners. this is your first look at monday's newspapers with three comedians. i'm cressida watson and tonight i'm playing gooseberry to two headl

reform as well. and as i say, i think it's only a labour government that can do the reform that our nhs needs, and we'll. 0k. two more things that i want to briefly ask you about. you're expected to go to the white house next week. now, it's no secret that your decision to suspend some arms sales to israel has not gone down very well across the atlantic. it has not made the uk government very popular with its closest ally, the united states. you're wrong about that. so you say the us agrees with it? we've been talking to the us. we've been talking to the us beforehand and afterwards. and they're very clear that they've got a different legal system and they understand the decision that we've taken. so that's very clear. the reason i'm actually going and having the visit is not about that at all. it's because the situation in ukraine is becoming ever more pressing, as is the situation in the middle east. i've obviously had a number of discussions with president biden, both in person and on the phone, and with other allies, france, germany, italy, nato allies, about the tactical decisions we have to make i

reform. i think only a labour government can reform the nhs, and therefore we will use this diagnosis as thelthier people. meanwhile, keir starmer delivered another gloomy message, this time on the state of the nhs, with a report claiming it is broken due to be published on thursday. my conclusion is the only way out of this now is reform. i think only a labour government can reform the nhs, and therefore we will use this diagnosis as the platform for the reform that we now need to carry out in relation to the nhs. after the riots that dominated his first few weeks as prime minister, keir starmer admitted being worried about the rise of the far right, but he found positives in the response. i don't think we're a racist country. i think we're a country of decent people, tolerant people. the real britain was the people who came the day after. in southport, it was incredible, people came out with their trowels, with their brooms, they cleaned up, they rebuilt. they're the real face of britain. and was widely expected to win. his main rival, abdel—aali hassani, gained three per cent of the votes

wouldn't it be better to have reform mps than labour mps? andice, the deputy leader of reform , about whether the of reform, about whether the right of british politics can come together to get rid of this deeply grubby socialist government at the next election . government at the next election. >> what made you have this epiphany, sir jacob? was it >> what made you have this epiphany, sirjacob? was it a epiphany, sir jacob? was it a free bottle of champagne from nigel? >> haha, no, actually, i recommended that the tories and ukip should have a pact. way back when david cameron was prime minister. in a first past the post system, you need to make sure that your wing of politics is united. that's the way to win majorities. so that's why i thought of this many years ago, and now may be the time to bnng ago, and now may be the time to bring all our friends together in the tory party family so superb and very quickly. >> what else have you got on state of the nation for us tonight? >> well, i've got an exclusive interview with nadhim zahawi, so a pe

and, you know, the biggest threat to labouris know, the biggest threat to labour is reform. you know, labour, what they're doing at the minute it's going terribly wrong. and, you know, from all this you know, the donors, all the all their gifts, they've not addressed the elephant in the room. are they going to at this conference. all right . right. >> well, we'll come to the gifts in just a moment, but this show is nothing without you and your views. let's welcome our great british voices, their opportunity to be on the show and tell us what they think about the topics we're discussing. right. let's wish we go. let's go to cornwall. let's have a chat with jonathan jones. jonathan jones, we've missed you. oh, hang on. hi, nana. >> i've got my tea, but i'm out on the north coast of cornwall with farmers. you can only grow tea on the river on the south coast of cornwall. but i've got my fact book with me, and i can tell you that lizzie's right. there's going to be tea and toast in abundance coming up, because there's 272 tea companies in this country , companies in this country

it says it would be nice if conservatives and labour got together. but and excuse me , reformver they are conservative and labour have are conservative and labour have a non—aggression pact that would be called the uni party. but the truth is, is that the tories are the labour party, basically with slight differences. we need a real reform party, somebody who is going to fight, real reform party, somebody who is going to fight , fight, fight. is going to fight, fight, fight. and the worst thing about that, yeah, donald trump basically like donald trump, somebody just shot you. i was told by my son to not say kill, kill, kill. >> and yeah, that seems sensible. yeah. don't say that on national tv. can i just can i just say this guy, supposed guy. >> we don't know the name or anything. it'sjust >> we don't know the name or anything. it's just a it's a they said that the two parties should copy an alleged private agreement between labour and the lib dems at the general election . lib dems at the general election. yeah. is like. no, there should be no , there should be no. we be no

it is people like that who are pushing the traditional labour voter into the arms of reform, and theyng, but they don't have the awareness to realise who their base is, that they're losing . base is, that they're losing. remember, they got 34% of the votes, and he stood there as though they'd got 74% of the votes, and labour and reform were second to labour in 100 seats. >> they're breathing down their necks, snapping at the heels. >> i mean, you know, he sounded like a man who was is he's boasting about repealing the anti—strike laws. he's going to boast about overhauling workers rights, bowing to the demands on pubuc rights, bowing to the demands on public sector pay. that is a glimpse of a very empowered left wing trade union congress who are going to make problems for businesses. >> yeah, and they'll be embracing the all conquering hero keir starmer tomorrow. yeah. >> and you'll be there. >> and you'll be there. >> i'll be there, i'll be there. i'll be. you can't wait. from brighton i'm sure the brotherhood and their sister would be thrilled to see me. >> when you walk through the

understand how that came about and bring about the reforms, starting with the first steps, 40,000 extra appointments. but we have to do the hard yards of reforms. i think it's only a labourat can do the reform that our nhs needs, and we will start on that journey. 0ur political correspondent leila nathoo told me more about labour's core mission to fix the nhs after years of conservative reforms. remember, this is one of labour's core missions, trying to fix the nhs, getting it back on its feet. sir keir starmer wants to deploy what we have become familiar with from the government since become familiar with from the government since they took charge — blaming the conservative party for the state of the nhs. this is blaming successive conservative governments, he is talking about reforms going back to the coalition government in 2010, big structural reforms led by the then health secretary andrew lansley. he's mentioning this review, that was done within days of labour taking charge by the former labour mp lord darzi. an independent review into the whole state of the nhs, talking about access to health care services, the performance talking about access to health care serv

and the reason that people are voting for reform is because the duopoly, which is labour and the toriesgly moved to the left, supported by a very woke media. and at the end of the day, they've lost sight of what reality is. so what we represent is reality for the british people . and i frankly think that people. and i frankly think that whilst nobody condones violence, if yvette cooper keir starmer and the other sort of, gift receiving labour party frontbench , ultimately if they frontbench, ultimately if they don't listen to the public, the public, quite rightly, is concerned about mass legal and illegal immigration, which is the root cause of all our problems. and if they don't address that , then we will be address that, then we will be doing to labour what we did to the tories last time and red wall seats will all go to reform. and i don't think it's fair to call us right wing. we're not right wing, we're just representative of common sense, decency and the british people. >> james reform have five mps to labour's 400 plus. why is yvette cooper even mentioning them in her speech tod

in his words, we have to do the hard yards of reform as well, and thatis yards of reform as well, and that is where this independent review by a former labour. many thanks. and viewers in the uk can watch the full interview with the prime minister tomorrow at 9am on bbc one. boeing's starliner spacecraft has returned to earth from the international space station, but without the astronauts who were meant to be on board. the capsule suffered technical problems after it launched, making it too risky for the pair to return until next year. instead of spending eight days in space, they'll now end up spending eight months. 0ur science editor rebecca morelle has the story. mission control: starliner is now backing away - from station and starting its return to earth. boeing's starliner capsule on its way home, beginning its six—hour voyage with a blast of its engines. and you're seeing the light show there on your screen. but the spacecraft is empty, without the astronauts it was supposed to carry. nasa's suni williams and butch wilmore will now stay on the international space station. technical problems with starliner meant nasa said it wasn't s

and reform. reform would say they'd like the same number of mps, like the same number of mps — of course, 72. and it's quite hard to be labour as well. but obviously, we're not here to talk about it, but we remind newscasters that if you've heard things about the party you love, the party of government, you're going to hear all this again as as everyone assembles for the conservative conference. so, we know that we're putting under the focus labour, and guess what's coming? this extraordinary basket case of politics, which is heading in way of the conservative party punished at the polls. it's going to be their turn. yeah, well, it will and that will be a very, very, very different kind of gathering. just also in terms of scale, the labour conference this year is absolutely enormous. people want to be there. and it's always a very good barometer of what's going on in politics is how many people are at the conference, how many people who have got nothing to do with the party turn up. so, last year's labour conference was massive because there was a real sense among the business community, and charities and ngos and all sorts

and it's the voters that labour are desperately trying to hold on to. you have labour then voted leave, then voted boris, and now really like the look of reform and nigel . and i think given we know they're the voters labour are obsessed over if we're to believe reports then i think they are they are under trouble. and i think what we're going to see is that, as maddie said, i don't think actually it's necessarily the conservatives that are going to capitalise on this. but i think we're going to see labour fall in the polls a bit. >> an information packed answer. thank you very much to madeleine scarlett and andy, who will rejoin me in the next hour to debate the labour government's apparent addiction to unachievable targets for housebuilding, building and decarbonisation . now a quote i decarbonisation. now a quote i declare after all, there is no enjoyment like reading how much sooner one tires of anything than a book. when i have a house of my own, i shall be miserable. if i have not an excellent library. end of quote. that's a passage from jane austen's pride and prejudice. jenni trent hughes will be talking to me about the forthcoming jane austen f

labour spooked the markets and the prime minister has now pivoted to positivity. tonight we expose labour's dodgy claims about the state of britain. >> the tories with their mates in reformreckers. >> yvette cooper blames the tories and reform for undermining the police, yet it was secure. who took the knee to defund the police? mob in more evidence, the government hasn't a clue about what it's doing after one minister floated the idea of closing pubs early, a more senior labour minister has poured cold beer on the idea. plus a deeply concerning story of a young boy whose life support was turned off by a judge's order has unexpectedly thrived, defying doctors recommendations. more evidence that such decisions are best left to parents state of the nafion left to parents state of the nation starts now .

the labour government is hopeful, and i think some conservatives are hopeful as well, that labour will be in a better position to commit to this reformnhs because for labour, the nhs is a less politically toxic issue than for the conservatives. if you remember, in the run up to the 2017 and 2019 general elections, jeremy corbyn was always accusing the conservatives of wanting to privatise our nhs. there was a hands off our nhs slogan. politically, it might be slightly easier for labour to get to grips with this sort of reform, but of course there is always the problem of the unions. keir starmer said today that there can be no more money without reform. now that is a really, really bold statement. it's probably a sensible statement because if you look into the figures, personnel in the nhs increased by 17% between 2012 and 2019. but the number of operations actually being done every year didn't go up at all. so there is clearly a productivity crisis within the nhs. that means that personnel issues really need to be addressed, but that will put keir starmer at odds with the unions, the bma in particular. and of course, keir starmer ha

and prevention measures. those are the pillars of labour's reform agenda . eform agenda. >> last night donald trump spoke in wisconsin, a key area for his election campaign. the republican presidential candidate pledged trade restrictions and to clamp down on immigration. trump was also critical of both current us president joe biden and his election opponent, kamala harris. let's take a listen to what he had to say. >> how biden won i will never know. to me, it's one of the greatest miracles. to me, it's a greatest miracles. to me, it's a great miracle. but how the hell that guy won? but he won and he got in this one. he got 14 million votes. she got no votes. and then they put her in. anyway, the bosses put her in because she's controlled by them. but she will be the worst president. he is the worst president. he is the worst president in history. she will be worse than him. she will be worse than him . and trump is worse than him. and trump is never wrong. i am never, ever wrong. >> back in the uk. now the met office has issued a yellow weather warning for

labour. yeah, a good chunk of that is in the reform vote. there's no doubt that the reform party, who took a big chunk of the tory vote, are now going after labour working class areas. ande labour movement is that anybody who does that is far right, or a fascist or a putin apologist or or a nazi, i think they will bleed votes to reform pretty fast. so that doesn't mean you need to be flattering to nigel farage. but i think you've got to understand why so many people voted for that party with perfectly good intent. was that a tough audience for starmer today? >> there. do you think , because >> there. do you think, because he did know he was on the telly, unlike paul novak , he was unlike paul novak, he was talking to the public as well as the room? and i personally thought even though it's very dour, thought even though it's very dour , isn't it? i've said it dour, isn't it? i've said it before, but you can divide people into radiators and drains, you know what i mean? like you spend time with someone, you come away feeling warm and full of energy as a radiator, or you can spend it with drains and you come away feeling absolutely knackered. and starmer has that effect o

reform. i think only a labour government can reform the nhs, and therefore we will use his diagnosis as the platforms. after the riots that dominated his first few weeks as prime minister, keir starmer admitted being worried about the rise of the far right, but he found positives in the response. who i don't think we're a racist country. i think we're a country of decent people, tolerant people. the real britain was the people who came the day after. in southport, it was incredible, people came out with their trowels, with their brooms, they cleaned up, they rebuilt. they're the real face of britain. but with some of his decisions causing unease among some of his own mps, keir starmer may find there is a winter of discomfort ahead. had a miller, bbc news. great ormond street children's hospital in london, says is urgently reviewing the cases of more than 700 patients, after allegations concerning the possible negligence of a former doctor. yaserjabaar worked as a consultant orthopaedic surgeon at the specialist centre, from 2017 to 2022. the hospital says its taking the matter "incredibly seriously"

blue dividing line between labour and the tories. blue dividing line between labour and the tories . and let's labour and the tories. and let's not forget nigel farage's reformrty. yeah. >> okay andrew i'm going to come back to you in just a little while. we were back at you, but as i say, we are joined in the studio by gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson and piers pottinger in the studio, pierce, you were sighing. sometimes you had your headin sighing. sometimes you had your head in your hands. there nigel. you were just sort of smiling. i want to come to you in a minute. i'm not sure. there was a huge amount to defend in there, but. pierce, what was most frustrating for you? >> well, again, i think i don't know whether it's wishful thinking or just delusional. they come up with these platitudes on everything, not just yvette cooper here. i must admit, i being home secretary is admit, i being home secretary is a pretty thankless role and i have some sympathy for her and actually, of all the shadow cabinet, i think she's probably one of the better. and i was very disappointed in that speech because , again, she's saying, because, again, she's s

we must restore our credibility on this issue, to win back the voters that switch to reform, the lib dems, labour and those that stayed at home. as home secretary i delivered the reforms that are currently cutting net migration by half. i didn't talk tough, i took action. i negotiated with the chancellor, with the health secretary, with the education secretary, with the education secretary to achieve the changes in our visa regime which are currently bringing those numbers down, and we have to be more honest in our conversation about the trade—offs with regards to immigration, and that means changing how we measure our wealth. it means using gdp per capita as the metric for our economy, so that the treasury cannot mask the low growth with high migration. rising gdp overall is meaningless if the wealth per person is falling. so we need to control illegal migration and i was home secretary i did. under my leadership home office applications fell. the backlog was cleared. the grant rate came down, deportations increased. i didn't talk tough, i took action. applause. and when we deal with illegal migrati

reform. i think only a labour government can reform the nhs, and therefore we will use his diagnosis as the platformform that we now need to carry out in relation to the nhs. after the riots that dominated his first few weeks as prime minister, keir starmer admitted being worried about the rise of the far right, but he found positives in the response. i don't think we're a racist country. i think we're a country of decent people, tolerant people. the real britain was the people who came the day after. —— in southport, it was incredible, people came out with their trowels, with their brooms, they cleaned up, they rebuilt. they're the real face of britain. but with some of his decisions causing unease among some of his own mps, keir starmer may find there is a winter of discomfort ahead. earlier i spoke tojill rutter, senior fellow at the institute for government and former official in the treasury about the potential rebellion the prime minister faces on the issue of the winter fuel payment. of course, with keir starmer�*s very big majority, the government can easily survive 50 abstentions, even 50 r

of underinvestment, by a disastrous top—down reorganisation by the tories, and by ditching the reforms made by the last labourries didn't fix the roof while the sun was shining, they doused the house in petrol, left the gas on, and covid just lit the match. applause that's why. .. that's that's why... that's why millions are stuck on waiting lists. that's why ambulances don't arrive on time. that's why you can't see your gp. never forgive, why you can't see your gp. neverforgive, neverforget, never let the tories do it again. applause look, i know the doctors' diagnosis can sometimes be hard to hear. but if you don't have an accurate diagnosis, you won't provide the correct prescription. and when you put protecting the reputation of the nhs above protecting patients, you're not helping the nhs, you are killing it with kindness. so, i say, respectfully but unequivocally, i won't back down. the nhs is broken, but it's not beaten and make no mistake, the tories had a plan for the nhs. mismanaged decline, a status quo so poor, people are forced to raid their savings to go private, a crisis so bad, that seven in t

reform as well. and as i say, i think it's only a labour government that can do the reform that our nhs needs, and we'llst to give you a taste of what the darzi report is expected to find on thursday, the bits that have been shared with us so far focus on how bad things have got in terms of children's health. the report has found that there were more than 100,000 infants who had to wait more than six hours in accident and emergency in england last year. there are 800,000 children and young people on nhs waiting lists for hospital treatment. 175,000 of them have waited more than six months. and there are 35,000 children on waiting lists in england who've had to wait more than a year for treatment. and there are 500,000 children, according to lord darzi, who've been on waiting lists for mental health treatment. so if you look just at what's been happening with kids — whether it's because of covid, whether it's because of they also identify the lansley reforms, the health secretary, some time ago now, but who could have unpicked how the nhs works, and those reforms are absolutely slammed by lord darzi. wha

labour conference speech as prime minister. this afternoon. he outlined a vision for national renewal, including reforming planning, ending the doctors strike and launching great british energy , which he great british energy, which he confirmed would be based in aberdeen. the labour leader also pledged to house all veterans in need, saying homes will be there for heroes. he also defended winter fuel payment cuts , saying winter fuel payment cuts, saying every pensioner will be better off. sir keir starmer went on to address the riots across the uk sparked by the stabbings in southport . southport. >> i will never let a minority of violent, racist thugs terrorise our community. the debate is not about the worth of migrants that is toxic and we must move beyond it . it's about must move beyond it. it's about control of migration. it's always been about control. >> but the speech didn't go completely smoothly, with the prime minister making an embarrassing gaffe when referring to the return of hostages in gaza. he said sausages instead . nora forster. sausages instead. nora forster. >> i call again for an immediate ceasefire in gaza. the return o

reform as well. and as i say, i think it's only a labour government that can do the reform that our nhs needs, and we'll now, it's no secret that your decision to suspend some arms sales to israel has not gone down very well across the atlantic. it has not made the uk government very popular with its closest ally, the united states. you're wrong about that. so you say the us agrees with it? we've been talking to the us. we've been talking to the us beforehand and afterwards. and they're very clear that they've got a different legal system and they understand the decision that we've taken. so that's very clear. the reason i'm actually going and having the visit is not about that at all. it's because the situation in ukraine is becoming ever more pressing, as is the situation in the middle east. i've obviously had a number of discussions with president biden, both in person and on the phone, and with other allies, france, germany, italy, nato allies, about the tactical decisions we have to make in relation to ukraine and the middle east. and we've coordinated a lot of our messaging, coordinated our action

and you're going to answer this question right? >> pay attention. focus. >> pay attention. focus. >> part of or arguably the big reason that reform exists is to sort out controlled migration. if labourehow get a grip on that, will that put reform out of business? and let's go to lewis first and then, you know, it won't it won't put reform out of business because that's not what reform needs to be. >> and that's what the problem is, is it's taken a long time for the maga republicans to become maga republicans for, for, for in the wrong country. yeah no, but i'm i'm going to get there and it's and i think and i think i don't think farage really has expressed what the party is . the party is as party is. the party is as a national park. well, he does express it because he has the he has it on the sign which says community, family and country. >> well, what do you what do you think, jojo? >> i think quite often what happens with parties like reform, they tap into people's fears and, you know , parties fears and, you know, parties spnng fears and, you know, parties spring up out of policies that the main parties are not dealing with. so the main parties need to look at why these parties

and that's why i argue labour didn't win the election. you gifted them the election. and of course the reformo nigel or lee anderson or any of the reform boys in parliament? >> i have to say i haven't bumped into them, but i mean, you know, i knew lee from when he was a conservative mp and got on well with him. so it's a shame that he has has left our party, and i think it's for us to be better than reform not to tell people off for voting reform and supporting them. we lost votes and we lost people's faith. and it's for us to rebuild our party and show them something better and show them that we are the most effective opposition to a worrying labour government. >> of course, this leadership election finishes in, well, five weeks or so. do you think whoever's elected will be the leader come a general election? if we get it in five years? i mean, some people are suggesting maybe you will welcome back the likes of lee anderson and indeed nigel farage to the party. and perhaps it could be a one. mr farage, you might end up leading you into the election in five years time. >> i simply don't see t

and his wife, lady victoria starmer , accepting lady victoria starmer, accepting gifts, including clothing from prominent labour donor and peer lord alli. sir keir has accepted around £39,000 from lord alli since december 2019. reformukip leader nigel farage has said the party should model its campaigning strategy on the liberal democrats. mr farage received a standing ovation as he took to the stage at reform's annual conference in birmingham. he admitted that amateurism had impacted the party at the last election and said reform could learn lessons from the way in which the lib dems won more than 70 seats in their campaigning. >> now, the liberal democrats bill branches the liberal democrats win seats at district, county and unitary level. the liberal democrats build on that strength. the liberal democrats put literature and leaflets through doors repeatedly in their target areas, and despite their target areas, and despite the fact they haven't got any policies at all. in fact, the whole thing is really rather vacuous, isn't it? but but they managed with a vote much lower than ours, to win 72 seats in . parliament. >> one of mohamed al fayed alleged victims has said the billionaire businessman was highly manipul

reform. one of britain's highest level trade union leader is here. will mick lynch and his colleagues play ball with laboureforms? also tonight, in an exclusive interview, john legend on his wife's abortion, elon musk and donald trump's claims that migrants eat your pets. he 5 - read that migrants eat your pets. he: spread vicious rumours that migrants eat your pets. he spread vicious rumours about them eating cats and dogs, playing to bigotry, like he always does. welcome to newsnight— live each week night for interviews and insight. our exclsuive interview with pop starjohn legend in a little while. your insight tonight comes from the general secretary of the rmt union mick lynch. ex—snp mp hannah bardell. and lbc presenter and conservative commentator iain dale. and our political editor nick watt is here as always. we have had keir starmer talking about reform of the public services, particularly the nhs in england and then he says money will come, as a union leader when you hear a labour leader say there will be no extra money for the nhs without reforms how do you take that? i money for the nhs withou

and then, of course, covid. on top of all that, which has put us in this awful position for the nhs. labour's instinct is to prioritise children's health and reform. but let's think about next week because the conservatives have joined basically all of the parties in the uk government in a opposing these changes. keir starmer says he is prepared to be disliked. next week when the vote is done we will see the scale of how unpopular he is prepared to be.— scale of how unpopular he is prepared to be. thank you for brinuain prepared to be. thank you for bringing us — prepared to be. thank you for bringing us that _ prepared to be. thank you for bringing us that analysis, - bringing us that analysis, georgia. labouraims bringing us that analysis, georgia. labour aims to increase the number of appointments done by 40,000 to help... but that would only deliver around 15% of the extra capacity needed to get back to reaching the target which has been reached since 2006. let's speak to matthew taylor, chief executive of the nhs confederation. thanks forjoining us. how feasible is this plan to increase aberrations and appointments 40,000? we increase aberra

we're not talking about issues and that's that's been to the detriment of the labour party, as we've seen. and this is reformabout back to what they really want to focus in on, but to charlie's point earlier that the problem that reform have is that the organisation has never been that slick, right. in the general election, one of the problems they had is that they said they would go out and put candidates up in every seat and they were struggling to find people. now clearly there is some groundswell, there is some popular support. now they need to translate that into activists knocking on doors. potential candidates in advance of those elections where it really matters with the local elections and so on, where you start to build a narrative of something changing across the country . changing across the country. >> i totally agree. they've got to be able to have that professional operation where they're vetting candidates, where they're putting serious people, credible people up who people, credible people up who people who can would actually want to vote for them . but just want to vote for them. but just g

the last labour government reformed the nhs to deliver better outcomes for patients and better value ood work, which only goes to prove once again that only a labour government can reform the nhs. and my labour government has a huge mandate for change. we're mission driven and i think the themes of this conference today are fitting for this moment. challenge, change and hope. because the challenge is clear before us. the change could amount to the biggest reimagining of the nhs since its birth. and the hope? well, that's what's really exciting and galvanising about this moment. because if we get this right, people can look back and say, this was the generation that took the nhs from the worst crisis in its history. got it back on its feet and made it fit for the future. thank you very much for listening . thank you. much for listening. thank you. >> the king's fund about this report by lord darzi, who is an eminent surgeon into the nhs. the nine week report. he spent far too much of that report, in my view, talking about why the tories were so awful. >> of course he did. >> of course

reform would still be short of having a majority. the next election. we need to have a wide range that's getting the votes that were lent to the lib dem, liberal democrats and labourbut also getting hold of those reform voters and people who stayed at home. i think tom is the candidate who has the broadest appeal. we've got polling that demonstrates that both in terms of winning back votes from from lib dems, as we've seen in lots of the south of the country, but also winning back those reform votes and his history of patriotism, his history of service, his history of duty, i think is a really powerful narrative. >> how would tom tugendhat stop the boats ? the boats? >> well, he's been very clear that there are a variety of routes that we need to be doing, including utilising the royal navy to turn back those boats. but having a stronger defence of our borders as well . but it's our borders as well. but it's also part of a broader picture around migration and immigration in this country to ensure that we've got a thriving high net value economy and we don't sink to a lower value, low wage economy that it currently is driving immigration. >> it would. tom tugendhat

and that's what labour sell . labour sell. >> i completely agree with that. and i think we need the supply side reformsnd i think that we fail to do them , post brexit we fail to do them, post brexit is absolutely right. but then we also have to cut expenditure. and the thing here that is so difficult is that whenever any government cuts expenditure, there are howls of protest. so there are howls of protest. so the winter fuel allowance, we immediately oppose labour. kemi badenoch says something about maternity leave and it's a greeted with howls of outrage that actually what she said was perfectly moderate, that we don't have the intellectual heft to make the case for lower pubuc to make the case for lower public expenditure. all the political capital. >> and i think that's where we need to get smart about how we do opposition. if wes streeting would come out with a series of reforms that would deliver better outcomes within the health service, and there's lots of things that we can do for the same money that is going into the nhs and that money is increased , we can deliver better increased, we can d

and then i'm very pleased to say we've got an interview with henry newman, who's been calling for civil service reform and has exposed some of the sleaze around the labourre cronies have been appointed donors have mysteriously got passes to downing street and he's arguing the case for civil service reform and for proper standards. >> is he also arguing, as you were, they should get back to work? >> well, i'm sure we'll touch on that. >> well, i'm sure we'll touch on that . we were discussing whether that. we were discussing whether larry the cat is the one civil servant who actually goes into work. >> so first up, jacob rees—mogg. always a pleasure. that's coming up straight after this show. matthew torbett, of course, always a pleasure to have you in. thanks for your company tonight. now don't forget , if tonight. now don't forget, if you haven't had enough of me, i'll be back tomorrow, three till six on the martin daubney show. thanks for all your opinions. keep the messages coming in and it's now time for your weather with alex stegeman. don't forget. next up, state of the nation with jacob rees—mogg. have a great evening . have a great evening. >> l

understand how that came about and bring about the reforms, starting with the first steps, the 40,000 extra appointments but we have two reform as well. i think it is only a labour do with the reform that our nhs needs and we will start on that journey. (pres). 0ur political correspondent leila nathoo told me more of what sir keir has been discussing with laura kuenssberg. it's a very familiar refrain now, blaming the conservative government across the board for things that the labour party has inherited. but this report that he is referring to the report by lord darzi, it was commissioned pretty much instantly after labour took power. it's a kind of broad ranging investigation into the nhs, looking at access to healthcare, the quality of health care and the overall performance of the nhs and any inequalities surrounding those three areas. the idea it's going to be published on thursday now, but the idea is that that informs a kind of longer term project, a ten year plan, all about labour's idea of what they're calling fixing the foundations. so yes, they've got an immediate plan, for example, to reduce waiting lists. they're going to bring 40,000 more appointme

labour spooked the markets and the prime minister has now pivoted to positivity. tonight we expose labour's dodgy claims about the state of britain. >> the tories with their mates in reformare just becoming right wing wreckers. >> yvette cooper blames the tories and reform for undermining the police, yet it was secure. who took the knee to defund the police? mob in more evidence, the government hasn't a clue about what it's doing after one minister floated the idea of closing pubs early, a more senior labour minister has poured cold beer on the idea. plus a deeply concerning story of a young boy whose life support was turned off by a judge's order has unexpectedly thrived, defying doctors recommendations. more evidence that such decisions are best left to parents state of the nafion left to parents state of the nation starts now . nation starts now. i'll also be joined by my panel. former conservative mp richard drax and former labour party adviser matthew laza. as ever, it's a crucial part of the programme. let me know your views. mail margaret gb news. com but now it's your favourite time of the day. the news bulletin with sophia wenzler. >> jacob thank you. good evenin

labour party . and then quit the labour party. and then who is it that said? oh, yes, adrian says nana lee anderson went to reform.for now? well, that's because remember, it was really leading up to the general election. so there was literally only a few weeks. so you then have two of them, which doesn't make any sense at all. so that was why. but he would have done, i presume, if it had been a longer gap. but right now it's time for the great british debate this out. and i'm asking, do you agree with kemi badenoch ? now, agree with kemi badenoch? now, this comes as the tory leadership candidate suggested not all cultures are equally valid when it comes to immigration and failing to recognise this is naive. she emphasised her own immigrant background, saying many stay away from discussing the issues around culture for fear of being labelled xenophobic. so for the great british debate, that's all i'm asking. do you agree with kemi badenoch? well, joining me to discuss broadcaster and journalist danny kelly and also gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson. i just followed the script. nigel i don't understa

understand how that came about and bring about the reforms, starting with the first steps, 40,000 extra appointments. but we have to do the hard yards of reform. i think it's only a labourourney. as sea levels and ocean temperatures continue to rise around the world, the un secretary general antonio guterres has issued an sos which he says stands for save our seas. his appeal comes in the run—up to cop29 in azerbaijan later this year. for more on the state of the oceans, my colleague carl? nasman? has been speaking with marine biologist and author aya na elizabeth johnson. the oceans are warming very quickly in a way scientists had not predicted, which is always concerning. you know, that's because of climate change. the ocean has absorbed over 90% of the heat trapped by all the greenhouse gases we have emitted by burning fuels and chopping down forests. that is the very definition of unsustainable. and the oceans also absorbed about a third of the greenhouse gases we have emitted, so all that carbon dioxide is getting absorbed into the ocean, which is changing the chemistry of sea water. it's getting more acidic, the ph value is shifting, which makes it hard for things

the conservatives and reform are vowing to name and shame labour party mps who voted, in their words,ze your grandparents as ministers doubled down on their decision to scrap winter fuel payments for 10 million british pensioners. now lest we forget, in 2017, angela rayner tweeted this. she tweeted that will theresa may confirm that 10 million pensioners will lose their winter fuel payments if their winter fuel payments if the tories are re—elected? well, they weren't re—elected. you were in power. angela rayner and your party decided to axe it. well 10 million pensioners are about to. but i thought you cared about this country's pensioners and also from 2017. this is what rachel reeves had to say. there's a message on screen there. i'll never forget a woman in leeds west. i spoke to who had purple fingers because her pension wasn't enough to pay for the heating. we must act now. this is the same chancellor, rachel reeves now, whose idea it was to axe the winter fuel payment. and it just keeps getting worse and worse for the labour party. joining me now is our political editor , chris