. >> to a layman -- this might be an impossible question, but to a layman, how would you describe what jupiter sound like? >> you know, what was funny was scott who worked with nasa was having a conversation with me before he played me some stuff. >> right. >> he was like, look, certain things i'm going to play you, you're going to be like one of the first people to hear it. i'm like, what? >> yeah. >> i'm like, is this thing going to make me smarter or something? i mean, the best way to explain it is just different frequencies. you know, we have high frequencies, lower frequencies. it seems like it's very hot up there. >> yeah. >> so we have a lot of -- [ sounds ] and for me, it aepsit's crazy. you sit there, and you're constantly looking for sounds to put to mood music. and the open space, the mood. we're constantly looking for mood. and we captured mood from jupiter. >> yeah. it's a -- it's arresting for me to hear you describe it. as an artist, it must be really, really moving to be one of the first to like synchronize that and make it -- >> yeah, it's incredible. it's incredible b

permanent security cooperation or pascoe is essentially in layman's terms a military agreement it would allow the free movement across borders across national borders of military hardware and personnel without them having to be stopped to be checked its architects say it's being drawn up in response to the threats posed by . and by russia it is worth noting though that two of the big boys at the european table in france and germany have very different ideas about how they see pescado operating in reality france well they say that they wanted to be a much smaller force a much more targeted force that fits with current french military operations that are in that are under way where is germany here in berlin they're saying it should be a more all encompassing group which its critics have said could make it less effective the whole idea behind tesco and what it may lead to a european army were expedited talks on these were expedited following the vote in two thousand and sixteen by the united kingdom to say that they were going to leave the european union the u.k. had long been an opponent

permanent security cooperation or pascoe is essentially in layman's terms a military agreement it would allow the free movement across borders across national borders of military hardware and personnel without them having to be stopped to be checked its architects say it's been drawn up in response to the threats posed by. and by russia it is worth noting though that two of the big boys at the european table in france and germany have very different ideas about how they see us go operating in reality france well they say that they wanted to be a much smaller force a much more targeted force that fits with current french military operations that are in that are under way where is germany here in berlin they're saying it should be a more all encompassing group which its critics have said could make it less effective the whole idea behind pascoe and what it may lead to a european army were expedited talks on these were expedited following the vote in two thousand and sixteen by the united kingdom to say that they were going to leave the european union the u.k. had long been an opponent of

as a layman, it appears that way. think special counsel mueller is going to thoroughly explore all the implications and ram fissions, as he should. >> you brought up james comey. it made me think of something last night. tucker carlson opened up his show with a diatribe against the fbi and talked about failures in las vegas investigation, and the omar mateen shooting, and hillary clinton. our once cherished and great fbi was so sad to watch. james comey's leadership was a disaster. again, you obviously were deeply involved with the fbi during much of the time the president is talking about there. your response? >> well, i completely disagree with that characterization. i thought jim was a superb director of the federal bureau of investigation. and i know the bureau well enough to know that's how the rank and file employees felt about his leadership. i thought he was a superb leader. so i don't buy this criticism. i think the fbi remains a cherished institution in this country. >> for 11 minutes last night the presiden

terms, we don't know the details on it, but in layman's terms, it means that if the tax cuts are soe, then it triggers the tax cuts to some way, shape or form go away. the devil is certainly in the details and all of this, but particularly that, because people are not so sure how that's going to work. in the short term, it got this committee voting yes along party lines. it sends this to the senate floor. and i think what is one of the sort of dynamics of that that has been most interesting for me to watch up here, brooke, is the role that the president played this afternoon here. because we saw with obamacare he wasn't all that successful in his pleas for people to come his way, but he seemed to have been successful today. certainly with ron johnson. i don't think he had any interaction with bob corker, but he also had a side meeting our sunlen serfaty reported with senator susan collins. the two of them aren't exactly buddy-buddy, but they talked about ways she could get to yes. obviously one of her big issues is health care. so the fact that he really seemed to play an aggressive

>> again, i do not have any kind of expertise or even much layman's study of the ocean dynamics and the climate change issues. >> so, the question was does the law of thermal expansion apply to sea water. her response was, again, i do not have any kind of expertise or even layman's study of the ocean's dynamic and the climate. this is for trump's -- one of his top environmental advisers. what does this say about the president's leadership? >> it says that the president has no interest whatsoever in employing experts of any kind. even meeting the very lowest bar of what expertise would constitute. this administration has come into office and said, you know what, we don't care about experts who know anything about science, who know anything about economics, who know anything about really any subject on earth in which expertise would be useful for crafting well designed public policy. they are all about giving more influence to corporate interests and to those who might otherwise stand to benefit from the public policies that they are creating. >> al gore recently said he hasn't spoken wit

permanent security cooperation or pascoe is essentially in layman's terms a military agreement it would allow the free movement across borders across national borders of military hardware and personnel without them having to be stopped to be checked its architects say it's been drawn up in response to the threats posed by. and by russia it is worth noting though that two of the big boys at the european table in france and germany have very different ideas about how they see us go operating in reality france well they say that they wanted to be a much smaller force a much more targeted force that fits with current french military operations that are in that are under way where is germany here in berlin they're saying it should be a more all encompassing group which its critics have said could make it less effective the whole idea behind pascoe and what it may lead to a european army were expedited talks on these were expedited following the vote in two thousand and sixteen by the united kingdom to say that they were going to leave the european union the u.k. had long been an opponent of

layman, where my volunteer and how can i volunteer to help a clinic? what skills i need? the other thing i'm curious about this about the new tax law , the attack on the affordable care act. i was just wondering if your clinic is for that, is that a good thing or not a good thing? guest: we would love to have you volunteer with one of our clinics. our clinics need medical and nonmedical professionals to help us provide care to people. the skills we need are you being willing to learn. greet someone when they walk in the door. say hello and check people in. if you only have a little bit of time, clinics are always looking for people to help them spruce up the court next just like we have to do spring cleaning, so to the clinics. you can sign up to volunteer on our website. we will connect you with the clinic closer to you, or you can contact our office and we can help you through that. stated a few times, we would like to see the senate remove the repeal of the individual mandate from their tax bill. without think it should be in this bill. think it should be in this bill.

. >> host: is it written in layman terms? >> guest: yes. when i see the topline, total spin activity in the economy rose by the way, this is the other thing that's interesting. when gross output is growing faster than gdp, that's a positive sign the economy is doing really well. when gross output is falling faster than gdp, that's the sign you are in big trouble, headed for a recession. so guess what. in the last couple of years gross output has been growing faster than gdp. i'm very upbeat. i write an investment newsletter. i'm 100% invested in the markets, even at these levels. because the economy is recovering and it has been drink the obama administration, the entire obama administration it was recovering. and gross output was going faster than gdp, but in that time of recession, that's what i look for when gross output starts dropping, or doesn't go as fast as gdp, then we're in trouble because that's the supply chain telling us we better be careful, or we can celebrate. so i'm not, those of said gdp is slowing down here, as they have

i think to a layman who didn't know, they could be fooled by this. >> reporter: christin ayers, kpix 5. >> nordstrom had no comment about the man using the branding. >>> today is the official opening of dungeness crab season! recreational crab fishing started last week. public health officials will be keeping a close eye on the crabs for dangerous levels of domoic acid which delayed the start of the last two commercial seasons. so far no warnings out for bay area waters. >> last year, i bought a crab net went out twice, failed. my daughter went with me. so this year i asked her to go again last week. she's like no. i'm staying home. no, thanks, dad. >> she is a smart girl. >> i'm going to keep trying though. >>> it's going to be raining. not that it matters if you are on the water, you will be wet either way. rain today. let's take a look at our hi-def doppler show you where it's coming down. there are some scattered showers at the north bay at this hour. it's coming down across places like santa rosa. highway 101 really getting most of the rain this hour. you can see how it's moved

well permanent security cooperation or pascoe is essentially in layman's terms a military agreement it would allow the free movement across borders across national borders of military hardware and personnel without them having to be stopped to be checked its architects say it's been drawn up in response to the threats posed by terror organizations and by russia federica maka raney who's the high representative for european affairs at the european union said on her way into the building this morning in brussels that she expected defense history to be signed today well out of the twenty eight member states that was put in front of twenty three of them said yes to what federica mocker any calls defense history the ones that said no we're the u.k. and denmark who have opt outs already written into their agreements as being part of the the european project the republic of ireland which is a neutral country and malta and portugal who said they hadn't made up their minds just yet whether they would be joining now the whole idea behind pascoe and what it may lead to a european army were expedi

in layman ‘s terms, the taxman caught up with them. that's what it looks like. it in a colloquial manner, one might put it like that. appleby documents suggest the pair had at least initially avoided more than £1 million in tax from the profits so i had a few questions for mr watts. hello, mark daly, bbc scotland. i've got a few questions for you, do you mind? i would actually, yes. i would like to ask you about your offshore trust. we never ask you some questions. we have written back and been very reasonable but i think what you're doing is pretty unethicalfrom a what you're doing is pretty unethical from a journalistic guideline. i would unethical from a journalistic guideline. iwould ratherjust leave it there. you haven't actually a nswered it there. you haven't actually answered our questions. about the profit at the palmerston partnership, £1.3 million was your share and how much tax on that did you pay? you have written to us and we have responded to you. was it to avoid tax? the answer is no comment, we have given you a statement and what you're doing is

. >> so to try to put this into layman's terms a reduction in the corporate tax rate will yield more jobs, greater income for workers and growth in the economy? >> i'll analysis is there will be benefit for workers, yes, sir. >> have you identified what portion of the -- or benefit would -- >> reflected in the analysis we provided to the committees -- because as i explained it's a process of increasing capital it's a process that builds up through time. our analysis in the very short run takes the stance and is based on evidence that the owners of the enterprize in the first year. as there's increase in capital there's more so that by the end of the tenth year our projection is based on corporate tax change be it an increase or decrease is a benefit by workers. >> so has your analysis taken into consideration that a never increasing of the corporate ownership is held by pension funds in. >> yes. it does. that's part of how labor in the form of an owner of pension assets in a defined contribution plan can benefit director as an owner as well as perhaps benefit in the longer run proces

for the k r g to car for their position on this recent supreme court ruling so does that mean in layman's terms what it means he wants the k r g to make it clear that this region will not secede will not seek independence from iraq and because you know the the analysis the interpretation of the constitution is one of keeping the unity of this country so that people. will they don't go to really all there they got to accept what back that service. well the people here two of the kurds of northern iraq have seen one of the biggest setbacks that they've seen an extremely long time they will tell you that whatever it is that they want they've sort of been abandoned by their allies they're surrounded by neighbors who are hostile to them these days including turkey that used to be an ally of the k r g of the k.g.b. particularly turning its back after that referendum so now and i think important to bring now in that press conference from prime minister netanyahu on barzani that just took place in the last hour this is the first time adrian that he has addressed the people in a press conference l

they are highly motivated to speak to the government to put it in layman's terms they are screwed. they are facing prison time. i will tell you the reason this news was so surprising to me is that i actually expected them to think they were going to get a pardon. they asked him to let it go. i figured flynn was the team figured they would get a pardon for the rest of the day. the fact that there's any sort of interest or lack of cooperati cooperation. >> it is a significant development and piece in this whole puzzle. thank you so much. >>> if lawmakers are being investigated of accusations of sexual assault, a new call for just that. >>> and the white house rarely admits when the president goes golfing but today it's a different story. the admission came from president trump himself involving tiger woods. you're watching cnn, back in a moment. did yon the national debt?ssman get elected by talking tough will they stay true to their words? or did they promise you one thing... only to do another? right now, congress is talking about tax cuts that will add trillions to our national de

telling you from salter, in terms of police code -- while everything you're saying is correct, and as a layman, i agree with you on all of those. as far as police code, i'll defer to the salter folks, but i think there's a different standard in i wef i were in th neighborhood and the ones that you were protecting. so tlohere's the ambient noise and the other thing is the bands and the entertainment makes more noise than the people, so what's important is what's playing, not what night, and i think i've included -- correct me if i'm wrong, maggie, in their packets, the performers. >> yeah, it does. >> and don said that's indicative of the sound levels that they have, be it friday or saturday night, in emergency room its of performance level. i also asked about cueing, and he said that the cueing takes place usually inside at the bar area 'cause that's where they make their money. he breaks even with the entertainment. so whether he said it was a friday night, saturday night, or wednesday night, with the hemlock, which was the points of concern that they just picked up on. on this one, we may ha

. >> i have impatient layman's understanding of these issues.about tax evasion, lot of people read this, described it as him being indicted for tax fraud. certainly methods he used to avoid paying taxes are described in the indictment but he's not charged with tax evasion. why is that? >> rachel, first of all, in case like this, first indictment is rarely the last. it's entirely possible and probably likely that the government will bring additional charges in the future. other reason i think -- first off may see tax evasion in the future. one reason we may not be seeing it now is simple, time pressure and bureaucratic reasons. i think mueller was under pressure to bring something quickly here, simple, relatively easy to prove charges. tax evasion arrorequires approv and takes a why. >> what special approvals? >> special memos and approvals from irs. and that can add possibly months to the timing of an indictment. >> on the statement that was unsealed last night that explains the government's case for why manafort and gates were seen as flight ri

including council member mary layman. who do you think should take responsibility fr if this? i think the leadership. i think central administration. they need to know more of what's going on. i do not want to see school-based staff supervision. i think all a of them were under a certain amount of pressure. they auditor found no evidence of system-wide disruption. he didn't tell anyone to boost grades to boost the imrad waition rate. he wouldn't talk to us. here's school spokesman john white. we heard a lot today about sloppy records keeping. has this administration ruled out the idea that this is an ethics problem? this administration has said if there is evidence of deliberate intent to deceive, then we will take disciplinary action to correct it. have you ruled out the idea that an ethics problem within this school system. >> that's the kind of evidence we need if people believe that. dr. maxwell still has support from the county max bell. >> sure. i have faith in all of our earth to ensure that our children have a great education system. i do have faith in dr. maxwell. i d

he is by any honest layman's definition, memorily unwell and viciously lashing out.ker and karoun deper january. these are he's done enough things that are so questionable that now allies such as britain are questioning, karoun, what his mental state is. all of these british officials who want prime minister theresa may to uninvite president trump from the uk. he was supposed to go next year. here is labor m.p. steve endowedy. this is the president of the united states sharing with millions divisive content by someone who represents a vial fascist organization. trump is either a racist, in competent or unthinking or all three. >> that's a very significant rebuke. theresa may will be under a lot of pressure to make sure she does not extend the typical diplomatic courtesies. it shows -- if it's -- look, clearly he knew he was tweeting anti-muslim videos. it is ignorance. it is not okay if you're a global leader. and not to apologize for it after the fact given how this has shaken the uk. as you just said, we cannot armchair diagnose. i certainly don't have a medical de

which in layman's terms means a possible kidnap in conjunction with turkey and getting their hands on the turkish cleric, who's holed up in the poconos right now. so when you look at the four major felonies and you couple it with that and the fear of impacting junior, michael flynn jr., there are very, very good reasons that michael flynn has got to do a deal. whether it's going to result in jail time is a completely separate issue. i have very little doubt we're going to be looking for a deal and he's going to be talk about what is going on in the white house. >> right, because the primary focus was to be about, you know, russia, its influence, et cetera yb on the u.s. elections, how complicit the trump campaign was but now underscoring the whole turkey connection, the cleric, i mean, it has been broadened out considerably. >> sure. >> okay, that's a side show for the mueller investigation and that is problematic and there may be criminal violations with that. but what mueller is focusing on with flynn is flynn's meeting with ambassador kislyak with jared kushner -- >> that's right.

. >> i -- i'm a layman of laymans, but we're not talking about a fibia or a tibia. >> no, we're talkingll. >> kind of -- if you're -- >> a human skull. >> you know, this is where some people believe the soul resides. >> i know. >> reporter: would brittany go for it? >> was there a moment, brittany, where you said, "wait a second, enough is enough. let my poor mother's spirit rest, here." >> it took me a second to process when he said, "i want to have your mom there." it actually took my dad to tell me, "it's okay." >> reporter: and so, in april 2016, brittany and her aunt stood by as dana's grave was opened up yet again. >> i'm trying to be strong. you know, i've been wanting this for so long, and for most people it's bringing everything back. for me, it's just anger. i'm mad. >> reporter: the second trial began a few months later. brittany's family and adkins' supporters gathered once again at the courthouse. >> was that tough to be coming up the elevators with them, and seeing them in the hallways? >> it was very tough. but i have to tell you that there were several of them that came

the president does not appear to be speaking from anything issuing that layman's diagnosis. but if he believed that the mental health of the killer was the real issue here, someone should ask the president why the very first things he signed as president, the first meaningful thing that moved through congress was a change in regulations specifically and only to make it easier for people who have been adjudicated mentally ill to obtain firearms. if the president believes that there's no gun problem here, the only issue here is a mentally ill person obtaining and then misusing a gun, well, this president took overt action as soon as he became president to make it easier for mentally ill people to get guns. so in terms of what, if anything, motivated this latest attack, there have been reports that one of the victims in the church was the gunman's wife's grandmother. there have been reports that his estranged wife sometimes attended the church as did her mother. there have been reports that he sent threatening texts to the mother. neither the estranged wife nor her mother was a

. >> supervisor kim: i understand that from a layman's perspective, but if it's illegal, it's illegal. i only hear if you go 50% of the way in the illegal activity, it's more legal, right? >> the other part of the point is that those alterations were made prior to the planning code section, 249 -- the sud. so at the time they were installed, legally or not, had they gone through the process of -- appropriately, they would have been legal. they could have been improved at that time. so, that is taken into consideration, at least it was with the board of appeals' decision. >> supervisor kim: i understand that you're in a difficult position on this, because you did actually not -- you didn't approve the initial permit, but i'm just having a hard time with the argument. so you know, even if there was a use that was legally permitted, for example, a restaurant is legally permitted on the parcel, but i move forward and open a restaurant without the permitting process, just because i'm zoned for a restaurant, doesn't mean i'm legally operating. the permit seems to be what legally allows you

some in the county say this shouldn't fall on teachers including council member mayor i layman.should take responsible for this. the leadership. central administration they need to know more what's going on. i do not want to see school-based staff were disciplined. the audit found no evidence of system-wide corruption and ceo dr. kevin maxwell has maintained he didn't tell anyone to change grades to boost the graduation rate. maxwell wouldn't talk to us. who takes responsibility, dr. maxwell has not. here's school spokesman john white. we heard a lot today again about slopping records keeping. has this administration ruled out the idea that this is an ethics problem? >> this administration has said if there is evidence of deliberate intent to t deceive, then we will take disciplinary action to correct it. have you you ruled out the idea that there is an ethics problem within this school system. that's the kind of people believe that. credit maxwell still has support from the county council. do you have faith in dr. maxwell. i have faith in all our effort that our children have a

i described in layman terms how it was discovered than the instrument that was used.d i have to admit i am not a scientist and don't really understand the ins and don't really understand the ins and outs of how it works but it seems to be a very interesting process which allows us to look through the entire stone structure of the pyramid which is something we have never been able to do before. these are potential voids which are huge difference from the side of the pyramid, being sensed by this intricate process. so take us forward , intricate process. so take us forward, now this discovery has been made, what do egyptologistss such as yourself look to do now?” made, what do egyptologistss such as yourself look to do now? i suspect there will be quite a lot of debate about what it is. the people who have actually run the project don't seem have actually run the project don't seem to be speculating very much on what they think it is but they have suggested they are interested in people putting forward ideas so they can begin to plan more experiments. in particular i th

i'm a layman. i look at the evidence. that seems very suspect that it could be a forgery. if you have a sexual assault, why would you be dealing with your high school yearbook? it has nothing to do with it. that's suspect. i question that. but the other thing is, i just want to ask, where were the fathers in this? you have all these 16-year-old girls dating this guy, he's calling them up. are there no fathers of these daughters in alabama? i can tell you if -- i have a daughter. if she was 16 and a 32-year-old -- >> i can answer this. i can answer the question if you let me. the father said -- she said my father is very strict. my father is a preacher. he called her in trigonometry class. the other one -- >> go back to your father and say the guy called me in trigonometry class. my daughter would have said -- >> did you read "the post" story? >> that was only one case out of these eight young ladies -- >> if you read "the washington post" stories, it answers the questions that you're asking. now i'm not going to relitigate. i'd encourage you and all of your listeners to go

>> again, i'm not -- i do not have any kind of expertise or even much layman's study of the ocean dynamics and the climate change issues. >>> just two days after a nationwide drubbing at the polls, republicans were hoping to turn the page today. senate republicans were going to unveil a new tax bill, their last, best chance to actually pass some kind of, any kind of major legislation this year. but then the roy moore news broke. suddenly republicans, including majority leader mitch mcconnell, had to deal with yet another bombshell. accusations in "the washington post" that roy moore, the party's senate nominee in alabama, had sexual contact with a 14-year-old. who he picked up outside of court where her parents were having a custody case. republican senators found themselves bombarded with questions not about tax brackets and allowable deductions but about whether they would still stand by a man now accused of molesting a child. the clock is ticking with 16 days left in session for the house, 20 day forth the senate. donors are keeping up the pressure on republican lawmakers to deliver on

those are interchangeable terms for the same kind -- >> put that in layman terms for us. >> that's the caliber. the nato level, you're using it in the military, the military round for the old style m-16 that's now become the m-4, for someone who purchased a ruger, i'm going to speculate, it might have been a bush master, the ruger, that type of weapon could be consider an assault rifle. why? can have a fistpistol grip, a detachable magazine. even if it was semiautomatic, could have had a 20, 30 round magazine attached it and could have had multiple, with that many people shot, art said, that round goes 2,800 feet per second, 3,300 feet per second depending on the exact gun, that goes through not just one person, two or three other people, could have caused multiple casualties. >> when i asked the sheriff if he knew if it was a semiautomatic or more he could answer that question. based on the type of weapon that it is, would it automatically be at least a semiautomatic or not necessarily? >> it would have to be. you could not have done this type of carnage in that amount of time with a

intellectual discussion, i think it's important going forward should we see the potential for another layman another fed chairman that knows what's going on. i'm not sure at the moment that he does. >> is there someone you would have preferred, bill? >> well, i would have preferred, you know, perhaps paul mccully from pimco who forecasted the debacle and talked about theminsky moment. he's not even on the consideration list, otherwise i would have preferred neel kashkari, a legitimate fed governor and displayed instructive ideas going forward, but that's not going to happen. >> would you have been okay with janet yellen staying put? >> i think so, you know, i'm not perfectly content with her, but i think she's done a decent job, she's a little model oriented or too model oriented and you have to be subjective in terms of structural ideas that can't be modeled like janet yellen and others have done at the fed. >> do you think jerome powell will normalize interest rates quickly enough and do you think he will be able to get us out of basically the money printing environment that we have been i

expected the president of the united states is profoundly unstable, he is mad, he is by any honest layman'sinition mentally unwell and viciously lashing out. the title of the editorial, "donald trump is a madman." paul, your reaction? >> i would say i'm a political strategist and i tend to see things in terms of strategy and very often you can see a strategy with the president's misrepresentations, when he gets things wrong. i'm trying to be generous here. you can see a strategy. less so this week. i think maybe that's why the "new york daily news" no friend of donald trump's generally nor am i are saying this. i try to pull the lens back. several months ago, bob corker, republican senator from tennessee, who was considered by trump to be his running mate and then secretary of state, questioned the president's stability and competence. more recently, the secretary of state rex tillerson reportedly called the president a moron with a texas adjective in front of it. reporting that general h.r. mcmaster, the president's national security adviser, i quote from the reporting, an idiot with the i

basis to appoint a special council, there's a lot of evidence out there that warrant to just to a layman will warrant to get some answers and we just heard representative desantos to say the timeline goes back a lot further than the american public even knew. >> it was funny watching in the news room charles because we expected democrats versus sessions to be more interesting but as soon as jim jordan started going at the attorney general i was yelling at the reporters clip this, this is news so as soon as that news cam out last night they were even considering appointing a second investigator to look at the hillary clinton stuff. you saw this morning a lot of the liberal media and liberal outlets are saying he's doing this to save his job and save it with donald trump. i think its been clear from his actions over the past few decade s and his explanation today that senator or attorney general sessions is a very measured, very thorough person and if he's going to go forward he will make sure everything is careful and not take marching orders from anyone and he's going to make sure his le

preponderance of the evidence a layman has before them. there's stuff you and i don't know but i read the first "washington post" story about roy moore and i was concluding at that point that the preponderance of evidence was against him, could not vote for him, #write-inniksaban. al franken and john conyers should quit. and one standard, preponderance of the evidence. a simple, he said/she said is never going to be other than 50/50, but when there are corroborating details as there are in alabama with leigh corfman, i believe it's open and shut. >> then why did you vote for donald trump? >> there was never a 51%, preponderance of the evidence about any of the individuals, katy. and i asked a couple of people. i'll ask you. which of his accusers do you find most persuasive? i never found any of them. there were lots of them. but i never found any of them to reach the same level of persuasion that leigh core-ocor reached b eed by her mother and others. >> details in the story. the woman from "people" magazine, had a very detailed story of w

it doesn't feel that simple to a layman. you're an expert.n cling to me how this is more simple. there is this controversy about state and local tax deductions. what do you think about that? >> it doesn't have to do with the rates. the senate bill -- we have seven tax brackets right now. the senate bill lowers them all a little bigger the house bill consolidates them into four. you are right. it doesn't necessarily feel like simple vacation. when they are trying to bring civil location to the process is by getting rid of these deductions. primarily, the home mortgage interest deduction and the state and local tax deduction. now, the senate bill that tries to get rid of the state and local deductions altogether. the taxes that you pay at the state level on income tax, the property tax does that for income but keep some of the property tax that the options in place. and so the idea here is to get rid of these deductions, which are fairly unwise and are not all that helpful, and i think a lot of people agree with that. >> dana: from a policy per

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