um war crimes, incited genocide by saying lbc. yeah, lbc, um, very. famous radio channel here in london um you know suggesting that palestinians don't deserve water, electricity and fuel um and you know under mounting pressure from social media users for example um he then felt obligated to to come out the next day and um you know go to go for photo-ups with muslim mosk leaders and in order to sort of save um save himself from that backlash. i mean you know israel is certainly losing that monopoly on the narrative. we've seen protests erupting across the globe be it in west asia. or in um even in the west um even you know main and key western allies such as jordan and bahrain bahrain you know today decided to um cut um diplomatic ties with the israeli occupient entity um and so you know we've got other countries such as bolivia and colombia that are doing the same so we're kind of seeing domino effect of these countries cutting ties so even their puppet leaders within west asia are now um coming under severe pressure from from you

palestinian ambassador to the uk, yes, speaking on lbc, the london radio station, talking about, as we can see clearly there saying that you know we should obviously apply the same rules and trying to say that the government would actually put israel on the terrorist list as well, if it was actually applying the same rules throughout and across the board and saying that you know um basically this should be you know done in that way because they are breaking international law very clearly, and if the definitions are there to show what a terrorist is, then they fall under that same umbrella and let's hear it in his own words, what we need to do is just to apply the rules, did israel breach international law, the question was asked to the prime minister and to the head of opposition, the leader of opposition, and nobody said yes, i mean what, what, because the the reason surely is if you believe as the prime minister and kies starmer both clearly do, that israel is is not breaking international law, the reason for that is they say that the strikes on gaza are in self-defense and they're t

yeah, i think you're referring to um, an interview on lbc, i think yeah, and um, yeah, that that's such an obvious uh, the answer that was given was such an obvious exposure of israel supporters uh and the the dichotomy that they hold in terms of um palestinians lives and israeli lives and for them it's it's not about equality, it is just about raising the palestinians off the map and you know as i've said before israel's behavior in the past right. now where the how they're positioning themselves, they just want to complete the nakba that they begin in 1948, they want to raise palestine and its people off the map, and send them all over to synai or somewhere else around the world, or kill them on the way, because they've been boming ambulances that are going towards rafa as well, exactly, um, stay with me, gentlemen, let's have look at this other story and then come back with uh a continuation of our discussion, what? one of the speakers at the pro palestine demonstration on london's trafalgar square this past weekend was jewish voices for labor national secretary glynn secker with dem

hamas were quote unquote hiding inside israel, yeah, i think you're referring to um, an interview on lbc, i think by johnnier, and um, yeah, that that. su such an obvious, the answer that was given was such an obvious exposure of israel supporters uh and the the dichotomy that they hold in terms of palestinians lives and israeli lives and for them it's it's not about equality, it is just about raising the palestinians off the map, and you now as i've said before, israel's behavior in the past, right now, where the how the position. themselves, they just want to complete the nakbah that they began in 1948, they want to araise palestine and its people off the map, and send them all over to synai or somewhere else around the world, or kill them on the way, because they've been boming ambulances that are going towards rafa as well, exactly, um, stay with me, gentlemen, let's have look at this other story and then come back with a continuation of our discussion, one of the speakers at the pro palestine demonst on london's trafalgar square, this past weekend was jewish voices for labor nationa

and we saw that with kees starmer for instance when he um sort of did that u-turn when he went onto lbc and incited genocide and said that palestinians don't deserve water, electricity um and fuel and then had to you time the next day and go for photo-ups with um with leaders of mosks for instance um and so these protests um sometimes can actually create tangible change on the ground and we saw the irakis that went to the the border with jordan and and said that you know they refused for subsidized oil to go from um from iraq to the israeli occupied entity, we saw protests happening in egypt where people are camping by the by the border, by the uh occupied palestine border, asking their government to open a rafah crossing to allow aid um and the injured to come in, um, these protests have um erupted um for instance in jordan where we've got you know a massive population of of palestinian people, and that sort of you, we saw that even queen ranya had to come and to cnn to to to now you, even though jordan takes a position of you, normalizing with israel and... has has ties with them, but

movement, even employed a so-called former israeli spy into the labour party, um, initially going on lbc and you effectively saying that yeah, it's perfectly fine for uh the ziner state to you know cut off water and electricity and food, and now because of the pushback he's received, particularly from actually people in muslim communities in britain exercising their voice and you know saying this is completely acceptable. he's now been gradually rowing back from that, so i think what you're saying is completely right, i think and also the the pressure has to be kept up there, because these people understand that they are actually accountable to the public, absolutely, they are, sorry, go on, sorry, and just on that note, um, what we've seen on social media is lot of um, shadow banning, and that's where they make sure that posts that are you know of a certain content aren't shown as often or don't get as much attention on the algorithm, i don't think people should be discouraged by that at all, that's really important, because um, these algorithms obviously do run um and gone a traffic in

video coming up by the... um leader of the muslim association of britain who is chair woman, she tells lbc um of the palestinian protest not being paused and it actually is in line with the freedom of speech. we'll see the video now as she unfolds this be watching again and again every saturday because of the shit horror that and the scale of those who have been killed in gaza, the scenes coming out us simply horrifying number of dead children, the doctors, the journalists and and and it's just turning into a bloody situation that people who were uh you know with with the attacks at first are turning and joining our protest for seasefire. the gaza strip has endured relentless and bombardment for the past two weeks, and i think it's very important for us to realize that um for for us to march on this day, surely it is, as you stated, it is the the calling. for armistice on an armistice day, our protest, andrew, has been largely peaceful, hundreds of thousands of british people march peacefully every single saturday, our largest, and not only that, i think it's important to mention that ther

and we saw that with kese starmer for instance when he um sort of did that you turn when he went onto lbc and incited genocide and said that palestinians don't deserve water, electricity um and fuel and then had to utain the next day and go for photo-ups with um with leaders of mosks for instance and so these protests um sometimes can actually create tangible change on the ground and me was all the iraqis that went to the the border with jordan and and said that you know they refused for subsidized oil to go from um from iraq. into the israeli occuping entity, we saw protest happening in egypt where people are camping by the by the border, by the uh occupied palestine border, asking their government to open a rafah crossing to allow aid um and the injured to come in, and you now these protests have um erupted um for instance in jordan where we've got you, a massive population of of palestinian people, and that sort of you, we saw that even queen ranya had to come into cnn to to to now, even though jordan takes a position of you know normalizing with israel and... you know has has ties wit

are actually in support of ceasfire, but it's not actually happening regardless our next tweet is the lbc video, which we will see mr. james talking to caller who wants the protest that's coming up this november. the 11th, which is falls on the same day as remember or armas day, um, to be postponed or not happen at all, so he responds to her, so we'll have look now as to what he says and what she says as well, she's a jewish caller, the bombs would continue to drop, but the march calling for it to stop should be postponed, correct, day to me and and i don't i don't, i think it's generally accepted, feels like it's a represent of fight and an end against fashistic behavior against and especially at the end of the world war two of the rise of naziism and the killing of six million jews, it's a special day not only for me as a british jew but me as a british citizen and frankly there does feel incon the two i don't want to jump earlier but it it i mean the the significance of remembrance day is is directly linked to the end of the first world war in 1919. so that's that's the significance of

zionist movement, even employed a so-called former israeli spy into the labor party um initially going on lbc and you effectively saying that yeah it's perfectly fine for uh designer state to you know cut off water and electricity and food and now because of the pushback he's received particularly from actually people in muslim communities in britain exercising their voice and you know saying this is completely unacceptable, he's now been gradually rowing back from that, so i think what you're saying is completely right f, i think and also that the pressure has to be kept up there because these people understand that they are actually accountable to the public, absolutely, they are, sorry, go on, sorry, and just on that note, um, what we've seen on social media is lot of um, shadow banning, and that's where they make sure that posts that are you know of a certain content. aren't shown as often or don't get as much attention on the algorithm. i don't think people should be discouraged by that at all, that's really important, because um, these algorithms obviously do run um and gaana traffic in

and he said that on the record on that lbc show and then he denied it saying that he he was referring to israel's quote unquote right to self-defense. i believe that now with the the public outcry with the the like bush said that the fact that the majority of the world is completely coming out for the people of palestine and he's completely out of touch with central government should show how out of touch these all right, um, bush, we talk about the cabinet reshuvel, now you have um, david cameron, former prime minister, wow, a remainder, very unusual, yep, um, and then you have james cleverly taking over from sweela roverment, but this is what i'm going to ask you, according to israeli media, tel aviv is looking to appoint former uk prime minister tony blair, a war monger, an architect of the us left engasion, yeah, invasion of iraq in 2003, as a humanitarian coordinator for gaza. i mean it's reaction, it when i when i read that this morning, i i actually laughed, i thought it was absolute joke, we all know who tony blair is and what he stands for, the majority of the british public

the to have his own show on lbc.eason i say this is because it's blurring the lines in it's a blurring of the lines in my between journalism and my view, between journalism and politics, between journalism and journalism and our elected representatives . however, it's representatives. however, it's not my decision. and while you or david lammy or anyone else is, or richard tice given this opportunity, i will come on and challenge you and try to hold you to account. >> don't you think you've been a bit of a hypocrite by coming on if you don't agree, i should have a show. i've just explained why. >> i've just explained because i will challenge. will come and challenge. >> i think should pay a pay mp. >> i think we should pay mps much, more so they much, much more money so they don't jobs. number don't need second jobs. number one, i do. >> i do second job. >> i do second job. >> mep meps paid so much i >> mep meps get paid so much i was misquoted. >> what did you say? i said i said something like we paid handsomely for

the to have his own show on lbc.eason i say this is because it's blurring the lines in it's a blurring of the lines in my between journalism and my view, between journalism and politics, between journalism and journalism and our elected representatives . however, it's representatives. however, it's not my decision. and while you or david lammy or anyone else is, or richard tice given this opportunity, i will come on and challenge you and try to hold you to account. >> don't you think you've been a bit of a hypocrite by coming on if you don't agree, i should have a show. i've just explained why. >> i've just explained because i will challenge. will come and challenge. >> i think should pay a pay mp. >> i think we should pay mps much, more so they much, much more money so they don't jobs. number don't need second jobs. number one, i do. >> i do second job. >> i do second job. >> mep meps paid so much i >> mep meps get paid so much i was misquoted. >> what did you say? i said i said something like we paid handsomely for

wasn't consistent how outlined on consistent in how he outlined on the interview because he got the lbcmess. that was a shock. look absolutely. you know, as somebody who head of somebody who was the head of broadcasting the labour broadcasting for the labour party, have one party, that would have been one of nightmare days if i'd of my nightmare days if i'd still the job. still been in the job. and i think having protesters outside a always a good look a speech is always a good look for labour because it for a labour leader because it shows that the hard left, the people, the british people don't feel are against you. >> it shows you matthew when >> it shows you in matthew when some them protesters were some of them protesters were actually by of actually supported by some of the on backbenches. the mps on the backbenches. >> think the the >> i don't think the mps on the backbenches are supporting the protesters. look, he was absolutely suspend andy absolutely right to suspend andy macdonald, from the macdonald, who used from the river the sea. and he should river to the sea. and he sho

wasn't consistent how outlined on consistent in how he outlined on the interview because he got the lbcmess. that was a shock. look absolutely. you know, as somebody who head of somebody who was the head of broadcasting the labour broadcasting for the labour party, have one party, that would have been one of nightmare days if i'd of my nightmare days if i'd still the job. still been in the job. and i think having protesters outside a always a good look a speech is always a good look for labour because it for a labour leader because it shows that the hard left, the people, the british people don't feel are against you. >> it shows you matthew when >> it shows you in matthew when some them protesters were some of them protesters were actually by of actually supported by some of the on backbenches. the mps on the backbenches. >> think the the >> i don't think the mps on the backbenches are supporting the protesters. look, he was absolutely suspend andy absolutely right to suspend andy macdonald, from the macdonald, who used from the river the sea. and he should river to the sea. and he sho

but since then he did say in that lbc interview you alluded to that that israel also had a right andblem for him since then, trying to unwind that position. so now you have got my hand here this is an amendment to the king's speech signed so far by 15 labour mps. the names you might expect. but if these names start to build up over the next few days and next tuesday or wednesday, next week is when it might be debated by if it's called, by the speaker of the house of commons, lindsay house of commons, sir lindsay hoyle. labour will have to hoyle. labour mps will have to say they say whether they support a ceasefire not and that's a ceasefire or not and that's a real problem i think, because of course position is course the party's position is one a ceasefire, one of not a ceasefire, but a pause fighting are also open, pause in fighting are also open, i think, to the government is they well try and give an they may well try and give an opposition debate opposition day debate that that's a right to debate what they want to do to the snp who then may in their own way go for a on a ceasef

pippa, that goes back to the interview which sir keir gave to lbc a few keir starmer gave to lbc a few original attack by israel . and he said by hamas on israel. and he said then that israel a right to then that israel had a right to defend itself and said that in suggested disputed what suggested and is disputed what he by this, that the water he meant by this, that the water could to people in in could be denied to people in in in gaza. and of course that's the big issue here is having a pause or a cessation or a ceasefire to allow more aid to get it get it, get into gaza . get it get it, get into gaza. >> it is interesting that imran hussain's name, of course, isn't on that amendment, given that he was a member of the front bench at the time it was written. it does suggest, however, that there are many, many more labour mps who would perhaps like to add their name to that amendment had the chance . it's had they got the chance. it's interesting rosena interesting that rosena allin—khan , her name is on the allin—khan, her name is on the list there. of course in list there. she of c

so i think, i mean, jenny finley, what happened was that keir did a car crash lbc interview in whichs okay if israel cuts off aid , food and fuel to the palestinians in gaza . it was palestinians in gaza. it was a terrible mistake . right. and he terrible mistake. right. and he should have recanted on it within within the hour. and he took a week . and during that took a week. and during that week, people were really, really angry. but i mean, i know one of the one of the leading councillors who who resigned, i mean, she was incredibly sad. she can i say, believes in a two state solution , absolutely state solution, absolutely condemns hamas for what happened. but actually also feels that labour should be talking about what's happened to the palestinians and the deaths of the palestinians and certainly only i mean, you know, you're right that that many labour mps have had literally thousands and thousands of emails. i mean i think. stephen timms had 12,000 last by last week . karen timms had 12,000 last by last week. karen buck had ten, 10,000, 10,000, yes, yes . i 10,000, 10,000, ye

also say and yeah, yeah , she also say and yeah, yeah, apparently i didn't listen to this interview on lbco said allegedly that israel has a right to cut off electricity and to water gaza. well, i presume to northern gaza , because israel was was encouraging or was demanding, advising all inhabitants of northern gaza to move south because operations started from the north. and i don't recall all any other conflict in the world when one of the two belligerent parts is supposed to provide the other side with electricity and water. i mean , electricity and water. i mean, although normally you're not in charge of the electricity and water, it's an unusual circumstance, isn't well, it circumstance, isn't it? well, it is an unusual circumstance. and i the compromise was i think the compromise was telling them to move south because the operation was starting from the north. so, again, if we want to put ourselves in israelis shoes , ourselves in israelis shoes, what supposed to do? what are they supposed to do? because in a way, they have been taken hostage. there is a territory they have left the

so i think, i mean, jenny finley, what happened was that keir did a car crash lbc interview in whichs okay if israel cuts off aid , food and fuel to the palestinians in gaza . it was palestinians in gaza. it was a terrible mistake . right. and he terrible mistake. right. and he should have recanted on it within within the hour. and he took a week . and during that took a week. and during that week, people were really, really angry. but i mean, i know one of the one of the leading councillors who who resigned, i mean, she was incredibly sad. she can i say, believes in a two state solution , absolutely state solution, absolutely condemns hamas for what happened. but actually also feels that labour should be talking about what's happened to the palestinians and the deaths of the palestinians and certainly only i mean, you know, you're right that that many labour mps have had literally thousands and thousands of emails. i mean i think. stephen timms had 12,000 last by last week . karen timms had 12,000 last by last week. karen buck had ten, 10,000, 10,000, yes, yes . i 10,000, 10,000, ye

and speaking a little earlier on on lbc , james earlier on on lbc, james cleverly couldn't deliver anye new law would actually come into force . would actually come into force. >> but it is clearly wrong. and the police have said that they recognise deeply recognise it is deeply disrespectful for people to climb on war memorials. we have made a commitment to review the legislation around public order policing. we need to take policing. if we need to take action specifically to give the police more powers. we are looking doing that . looking at doing that. >> there we go. exactly. but look what do you think? should we urgently change the law to stop thugs from climbing on our war memorials ? let me know your war memorials? let me know your thoughts. email gbviews@gbnews.com. and the inboxis gbviews@gbnews.com. and the inbox is absolutely on fire in front of me as we speak. patrick, we need a new law right now, says gary. but james just wants the police to enforce the law they've already got. you can tweet us as well at gb news. and while you're there, go and vote in our poll. i'll bring

and speaking a little earlier on on lbc , james earlier on on lbc, james cleverly couldn't deliver anye new law would actually come into force . would actually come into force. >> but it is clearly wrong. and the police have said that they recognise deeply recognise it is deeply disrespectful for people to climb on war memorials. we have made a commitment to review the legislation around public order policing. we need to take policing. if we need to take action specifically to give the police more powers. we are looking doing that . looking at doing that. >> there we go. exactly. but look what do you think? should we urgently change the law to stop thugs from climbing on our war memorials ? let me know your war memorials? let me know your thoughts. email gbviews@gbnews.com. and the inboxis gbviews@gbnews.com. and the inbox is absolutely on fire in front of me as we speak. patrick, we need a new law right now, says gary. but james just wants the police to enforce the law they've already got. you can tweet us as well at gb news. and while you're there, go and vote in our poll. i'll bring

also say and yeah, yeah , she also say and yeah, yeah, apparently i didn't listen to this interview on lbco said allegedly that israel has a right to cut off electricity and to water gaza. well, i presume to northern gaza , because israel was was encouraging or was demanding, advising all inhabitants of northern gaza to move south because operations started from the north. and i don't recall all any other conflict in the world when one of the two belligerent parts is supposed to provide the other side with electricity and water. i mean , electricity and water. i mean, although normally you're not in charge of the electricity and water, it's an unusual circumstance, isn't well, it circumstance, isn't it? well, it is an unusual circumstance. and i the compromise was i think the compromise was telling them to move south because the operation was starting from the north. so, again, if we want to put ourselves in israelis shoes , ourselves in israelis shoes, what supposed to do? what are they supposed to do? because in a way, they have been taken hostage. there is a territory they have left the

radio i do it on lbc radio show.e people saying, well, what about anti—semitism? don't you care about i'm sure about anti—semitism? i'm sure it's sometimes. it's happened sometimes. but when i call out when i call out anti—semitism well, what anti—semitism as well, what about other forms racism? i'm about other forms of racism? i'm equally stamping about other forms of racism? i'm equallyforms stamping about other forms of racism? i'm equallyforms of stamping about other forms of racism? i'm equallyforms of racism tamping about other forms of racism? i'm equallyforms of racism .|mping about other forms of racism? i'm equallyforms of racism . it ping about other forms of racism? i'm equallyforms of racism . it is1g out all forms of racism. it is just that we are seeing at the moment very pronounced spike moment a very pronounced spike in anti—semitism by the way, in anti—semitism and by the way, when the far right went marching to the cenotaph and abused the memory of our four fathers and four mothers, people who put

on the other hand, i mean lbc.g >> and why weren't you listening to gb news? >> ears. >> i have two ears. >>— >> i have two ears. >> right two faces. >> right to two faces. >> right to two faces. >> right. up next. >> right. up next. >> i was waiting for that. yeah >> i was waiting for that. yeah >> after pmqs, it's >> all right. after pmqs, it's going be gb news live with going to be gb news live with pip tomson and tom harwood this afternoon. afternoon both you're going one. going to have a busy one. >> oh, it is going to be an extraordinarily busy day, as you've been talking the you've been talking about, the machinations tory machinations within the tory party. what exactly will the party. what exactly will be the fallout? the prime fallout? how will the prime minister respond? hear minister respond? we'll hear from in just a few moments from him in just a few moments time and we'll dissect all. time and we'll dissect that all. but of course, splits in but also, of course, splits in the labour party a big vote

the council leader, i was a sitting labour councillor and i resigned after keir starmer's disastrous lbc he was asked quite specifically whether he supported a siege on gaza, to which he replied yes. and at that stage i saw urgent clarification from the local and national leadership. but unfortunately none was forthcoming . he unfortunately none was forthcoming. he did unfortunately none was forthcoming . he did eventually forthcoming. he did eventually come out to say he was answering a different question, but it took him nine days to say that and at the same time, his national all his frontbench were on national tv justifying his initial comments. so i couldn't initial comments. so i couldn't in good conscience remain in a party where the national leadership had such disregard for human life and international law and hence i resigned . law and hence i resigned. >> so the way you're talking, you do not sound at all very supportive of sir keir starmer going forward , what do you want going forward, what do you want him to become? the next prime minister where where's your support now ? s

i think there there's lot of anger to what there's a lot of anger to what keir starmer said in that lbct four weeks ago, and ifs interview about four weeks ago, and it's been a huge and i think it's been a huge issue for lots of people, which issue for lots of people, which is why were some is why there were some suggestions. that suggestions. for instance, that shabana shadow shabana mahmood, the shadow justice high justice secretary, the most high profile labour muslim woman, would from a position as would resign from a position as the sixth most powerful person within labour within the labour shadow cabinet. didn't do cabinet. she didn't choose to do so, but i do think it's going to be really interesting. i think take instance jess phillips, take for instance jess phillips, constituent see, that was a constituency where there was a huge war vote in 2005, huge anti—iraq war vote in 2005, the democrats that the liberal democrats took that seat. that perhaps seat. so i think that perhaps she's wary of concerned she's very wary of concerned about the thing, about about the same thing, ab

at the very beginning of the conflict, he gave an interview on on lbc, i think it was .ew effectively. he immediately put that right and he's been here a few days. okay within a couple of days. but he's consistently made clear our support as a party for the state of israel. their right to self—defence and complete opposite . ian. opposite. ian. >> to be fair, he is in a very difficult position. having that many mps and top mps in his shadow cabinet disagreeing or disagreeing with his position so vehemently that they would resign or be open to a sack should we? >> i've got one more story that i want to just go on then. why not? something that we have teased a couple of times and it might not seem particularly relevant, but i think it is interesting we've interesting thing. we've got a video wielding video of a man wielding a chainsaw that i'd like to show everyone watching on television. we've got that coming up right now. what on earth this is? this is a man wielding a chainsaw surrounded by supporters , a real surrounded by supporters, a real chainsaw . and this man has

and it all started when sir keir starmer went on lbc and made these comments. to defend herself and hamas bears responsibility , i.e. hamas bears responsibility, le. a siege is appropriate , cutting a siege is appropriate, cutting off power, cutting off water secure. >> i think that israel does have that right . >> i think that israel does have that right. it is an ongoing situation . situation. >> and well, his words caused a level of outrage in his party, which seems to have a major pro—palestine element. and around 30 councillors objected to his stance and resigned. they along with labour london mayor sadiq khan , labour greater sadiq khan, labour greater manchester mayor andy burnham and labour's leader in scotland, anas sannar, have called for a ceasefire and were putting pressure on sir keir directly, contradicting his initial stance. he later called for a humanity pause, sort of struggling to work out the difference, but either is unlikely as hamas official has stated, that they wish to repeat the october 7th massacre and now our dear friend gary lineker

i mean, i was listening on lbc of this who to talking this woman who was to talking alan levy.as on a show for a period of time, and she was literally saying that this true, that this isn't this isn't true, that this isn't happening, that the death and destruction on the seventh wasn't and a lot the. wasn't real. and a lot of the. why do you think there seems to be this obsession with denial? >> i have idea. the thing >> i have no idea. and the thing which is driving me insane is that just complete misunderstanding many the misunderstanding by many of the people turning for the people turning up for the pro—palestine in pro—palestine marches in understanding exactly river understanding exactly what river to actually means. and to the sea actually means. and we'll anything and we'll we'll chant anything and we'll simply go along. maybe they haven't better to haven't got anything better to do day, and i'm sure do with their day, and i'm sure i'm insult few people i'm going to insult a few people by but i have by saying that. but i have palestinian friends and these are friends wh

>> my view is that one of the problems is that that when keir starmer did his infamous lbc interviewe said yes, that israel should be able to cut off food, water aid, et cetera. to gaza . and he then cetera. to gaza. and he then took nine days to correct it is that he lost he lost the faith of quite a lot of his mps. had he done it within an hour because it was clearly just a mistake, it would have then people would have felt that it would have been okay because i mean, actually afterwards , as he mean, actually afterwards, as he then said, you know, look, what's happening in gaza is terrible . but but but but he has terrible. but but but but he has never given i mean, apart from the fact that hamas he's saying, you know , the ceasefire would you know, the ceasefire would allow hamas to do it. i mean, there is a problem of that. isabel was talking about it earlier. so, i mean, that people are dying in gaza all the time . are dying in gaza all the time. um, and we know that most of the people i don't know how many hamas people have been killed, but i certainly know that masses and mas

quite often our ambassador, palestinian ambassador to the uk doing the media rounds, yes, speaking on lbc, the london radio station, talking about um, as we can see clearly there, saying that we should obviously apply the same rules and trying to say that the government would actually put israel on the terrorist list as well if it was actually applying the same rules throughout and across the board and saying that you know um basically this should be you know done in the... way because they are breaking international law very clearly, and if the definitions are there to show what a terrorist is, then they fall under that same umbrella and let's hear it in his own words, yes, what we need to do is just to apply the rules, did israel breach international law, the question was asked to the prime minister and to the head of opposition, the leader of opposition, and nobody said yes, mean what, what, well because the the reason surely is if you believe as the prime minister and both clearly do that israel is is not breaking international law, the reason for that is they say that the strikes on