they have the ability to generate somewhat and to plot attacks from at least syria into europe and the united states. this meeting has been cancelled. >> but secretary kerry who did meet with iranian foreign minister mohamed jarat doubt i'd go that far to say that we are far past when we were in july, when the parties last met in vienna. >> talking about gaps there's reportedly a hurnlg gap between that's the first part. second part, congress will not be required at least not right away to deliver on america's end of the bargains. sanctions relief from europe will be enough. willingness to do the deal. both sides have fulfilled their commitments from the time that deal was signed until that present day and both sides have been able to make progress in these very difficult and tough of thousand centrifuges and if this deal got done it could potentially open up the opportunity for cooperation over other issues. the reality is that iran was trying to conflate the issues 30-year-oldalton notic30-year-od alton nolan had been fieshed. nolan was taken to the hospital and will be arrestonce he

syria. >> i think it's a help, at least for strikes in iraq, obviously, the big problem of the long run is going to be what happens in the neighboring syria. but i think the more help one can get in iraq the better. it's not good enough but it's good for the moment. >> you wrote recently that president obama, what you call the light footprint approach in going after this war in iraq and syria, limiting u.s. involvement to air power and that local troops need to be involved and do it for themselves. but that's a strategy that's leaner than president bush's and it might not be any more successful. then on friday, joint chiefs chair martin dempsey said that 5,000 moderate syrian fighters that we're planning to train are not nearly enough that we need 12 to 15,000. to recapture the territories in iraq and syria. how likely are we going to get that many? >> when there's larger security forces kurdish includes peshmerga and sunnies, including sunni tribes. the bigger challenge is currently going to be syria, where there aren't enough coordinated competent free syrian forces. well equipped, well

syria in recent months. as the bullies are reform the best to present the south which is diddy's time for him to go to the instability at least to syria is going to be submissive to the be . dramas that can't be ignored. stories others refuse to notice. food since changing the world lights now. so picture of today's leaves log on to and from around the globe the globe to. d.c. . your friend post a photo from a vacation you can't. call it different. the boss repeats the same old joke of course you like. your ex-girlfriend still pens tear jerking poetry keep count norrish. we post only what really matters i don't see your facebook you speak. in libya is the most militants have taken over the us embassy in tripoli and its presidential compound which was evacuated a month the guy stuff was pulled out due to increasing role listeners in the country with rampaging warlords and their militias seizing control of the country funds going to chaos off to formulate a market duffy was ousted and the free flow of arms allowed various militant groups to seize power we asked the editor of the pan-african news wire what he thinks the situatio

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syria. defense secretary chuck hagel and the joint chiefs of staff, general martin dempsey were speaking before a senate committee. >>> at leasten in syria have been killed by vaccines. the measles vaccinations were being carried out by a medical aid organization. the vaccines might have been out of date. >>> ukraine has signed a landmark deal on politicians and trade with europe. kiev also says eastern parts of ukraine can vote to decide their own future. >>> the iraqi parliament has adjourned until thursday without selecting the cruci of minister of interior, and minister of defense. the prime minister has chosen his nominees, but they have yet to be approved by parliament. the positions are seen as crucial to his promise of an incollusive government and political stability. imran khan has more from bagdad. >> reporter: iraq's parliament has postponed the crucial vote on the ministers for defense and interior until thursday. this is a very big blow to the prime minister. he want today get his names through into parliament, but his choices have been seen as controversial by some particularly for me ministry of interior who co

air force to begin striking isis at least in syria right now and stop saying what we are not going todo. let the enemy worry about that. >> schieffer: okay. >> stimpson had a great line the president can't ask the american people to tell them advance if they would follow him if he decides to lead. >> schieffer: i think we are going to let it stop right there. we will be right back. i thank all of you very much. we will be right back with an update on the ebola epidemic in just a minute. >> ♪ the all new, head turning cadillac ats coupe. it's irresistible. ♪ >> schieffer: we want to talk some now about this crisis over ebola and joining us from nashville, the head of the vanderbilt university department of preventative medicine, william shatner and chief medical correspondent dr. john la puke, he is in new york, of course, dr. lapook let me start with you, we have reports this week that the cdc is estimating the number of cases of ebola by the end of january as possibly affecting as many as half million people. now, this research has not been made public yet, but can you tell us, do yo

it doesn't appear they call themselves that, at least in syria. they're al qaeda. they should probably be called al qaeda. these are individuals who have been involved in al qaeda operations from south asia, from iran and other locations and are plotting attacks with the coordination of -- back in pakistan against targets in the united states and europe. but let's be frank about this. this is al qaeda. this goes back to the core in pakistan, the very group that we have already said and administration officials have said we have defeated. we clearly have not. >> they're now saying -- the fbi director today was saying we killed some senior folks in those strikes. but the vast majority it looks like most of the leadership is in tact. i mean, that's not good. and they were plotting an attack against the united states of america. so how concerned should we be? >> well, it's not entirely clear how imminent the attack was. it looked like at the very least there were plots underway from syria through turkey into europe and the u.s. there are individuals, abu hali for examp

the cities they control and so it is a complex operation and perhaps as much as a month away at least in syria>> thank you, doug. >>> in the meantime secretary of state kerry trying to build a collation overseas. several arabs and allies are on board. but one country on the fence is turkey. john has more. >> reporter: you are right. turkey remains on the fence at this point. and also as you know on the border of iraq and syria and isis militants are on the border in syria and getting turkey involved in this is a huge deal. that is important. secretary of state john kerry is in turkey and meeting with turkish officials and trying to get clarity of how turkey is willing to help if not militarily then by humanitarian means. estimated 1 million syrian refugees are flowing in turkey and isis militants kidnapped 29 turbish citizens from the country's consulate in northern iraq in the city of mosul. and the day after u.s. allies and arabs signed on. turkey has not come out in support. so again, getting turkey off of the fence and in to the fight is a major issue and getting them on board is what secr

syria is a very different one from that in iraq. it is and has been already involved in the training and equipping of at least shia-led militia. if not the iraqi government forces themselves and that's well known. the story in syria is quite a different one because, of course, the iranians, a supporter of the bashar al assad government there so any suggestion that these fsa, free syrian army rebels, opposition that saudi has said it will help equip and train never going to be something that sits easily with the iranians so watch this space i think is the clear story from this side here in the middle east and we'll await to hear what the president of iran says but first he is the first to speak and i think it will be a very powerful speech. >> certainly right about that. now separate from what world leaders have been saying on the national level, we did hear yesterday president obama, prime minister cameron both challenging muslim communities, a reference there to not just, of course, the middle east but muslim communities in the west and the uk and in england pushing them to reject the perversion of islam that really isis repre

-led air strikes against isis targets in syria. at least five arab nations are involved in the operation. the prime target. isis stronghold in raqqa along with several other locations nearby. the syrian observatory for human rights says at least 20 targets have been hit overnight. activists in raqqa say the governor's compound, a post office and recruitment center were damaged. sources on the ground also say there are several fatalities. meantime, jordan says its planes have returned safely now after carrying out some of those air strikes. u.s. officials say, saudi arabia, the united arab emirates and bahrain are also participating. qatar is involved. we understand. just, unclear exactly what role it's played so far. the uk has confirmed to cnn it did not take part in the air strikes. so that's what we know at this moment. more details to emerge here as the day moves on. but, let's take a closer look at how the international community has reached this point, for that joined by the author of the new middle east, protest and revolution in the

these vehicles, you have to ask the question, what happens next, and the american plan is for at least in syriamoderate syrian opposition to move in and hold territory, but as of now, that moderate opposition is extremely weak and it appears if the government of bashar al assad is best poised to move in and take advantage of the air strikes. richard engel, nbc news, turkey. >>> police in nigeria say they found one of the schoolgirls kidnapped of terrorists in april alive. police say the 20 year old was found wandering in a bush on wednesday. police say she's heavily traumatized and is being treated at a hospital. nearly 300 schoolgirls were kidnapped by boko haram in april. a number of the girls were able to escape but this is the first case in months any of the girls have been found. >>> now back in the u.s., we have an update this morning on the developing story in chicago. flights have begun taking off and landing again in the windy city. both o'hare and midway airports grounded flights earlier this morning after a fire in aurora, about 40 miles outside of chicago. southwest airlines just an

them tell us they do not believe the president needs their approval to launch air strikes in syria, at least not at first. but just in case, several lawmakers plan to introduce proactive legislation granting him that authority when congress returns next week. republican frank wolf of virginia is one of them. >> this group is moving. they are a violent group. you cannot negotiate with them. you cannot sit down and reason with them. so i think there's been a dramatic change. >> reporter: the president tried to get congressional approval to strike the syrian regime last year, but he didn't get it. lawmakers tell us they believe this situation is different, and they see a clear threat to national security. scott. >> pelley: nancy, thanks. early this evening, we heard from the sotloff family for the first time since his murder. at their home in suburban miami, a statement was read by the family spokesman barak barfi. >> today, we grieve. this week, we mourn. but we will emerge from this ordeal. our village is strong. we will not allow our enemies to hold us hostage with the sole weapons they poss

it is at least half of syria and at least half of iraq. and it has a head. baghdadi. he has a committed army of 12,000 terrorist soldiers, many of whom he released from terrorist prisons. they have a form of government. islamic shari'a law. and they follow that to the t. they have money from banks that they've robbed from, oil fields, from the rev -- robbed from oil fields, from the revenue of gas fields. they also have self-sustaining infrastructure with their energy production. they're seeking to obtain weapons of mass destruction. they obtained 90 pounds of low enriched uranium. there's now a fear that materials that could be used to form a nuclear bomb are items on the wish list and the shopping list of the islamic state. we need to do everything that we can to prevent them from achieving their goal of putting together the elements for a nuclear weapon. we also need to be aware that pakistan is also in all have nerble position -- in a vulnerable position. there are reports that pakistan may have upwards of 200 nuclear weapons. pakistan is a sunni state. the islami

syria and what the u.s. will or won't do in coordination with, or at least deconflicting with syria on air strikes gems sierraaere appears phone at least publicly the tweet coming back from the glarand leader there i iran. he said i rejected u.s. often to iran about isis because u.s. has corrupted it's hands in this issue. let's bring our panel, steve haste, and national political correspondent and syndicate columnist charles kraut. >> this is called a coalition of the unwilling. kerry has not had a good record with international conflicts, he called two to oppose assad and they broke up in disarray, he had innumerable means which ended up losing crimea and about half of the 50e679. and he's been tied up with nuclear weapons for a year with iran. he calls a conference in paris and the rule in diplomacy is, when you call a conference and you want to lose a leading power, you wire in advance at least a few positive announcements. he came out with nothing. nothing, the french and the british have offered to do reconnaissance. in other words the french will take pictures and we're going to be involved in fighting,

at least the syria piece of it is going to be a big problem.s hard for me to believe that people are going to look at the world and say she really left us in great shape. she may have been table to skillfully distance herself from the president on all these matters that the people aren't going to hold her accountable. >> one thing we can count on foreign policy redick fors making predictions -- >> why go to iowa now? why issue the book this year so she has this controversy in the middle of an election year. why go to iowa and race expectations of the political campaign. and more importantly, raise the expectations of what she's going to do to help democrats in this fall's election. does anyone think she's going to be out on the campaign trail in the next 52 days and make an appreciable difference to the democrats? why is she waiting until 2015 rol rolls around? >> there's a possibility here, that americans will rally around the flag and that could help democrats. >> all right. thank you. ladies and gentlemen, great to be with you this week. tha

and the fact he's going into syria suggests that at least the front has been expanded there. and i think that that gives us an opportunity to start hitting targets in syria that will degrade -- >> what about this issue of the ground troops? because the president was at pains to say no combat troops. but number one, i don't think that's really accurate, because special forces are going to be there. at least training and probably over time carrying out kill missions or at least we're going to have to do that if we want to succeed. that's how we defeated the al qaeda in iraq during the surge in 2007. >> that's right. by the way, when you say no ground troops, you're putting a lot of innocent civilian lives at risk because ultimately no air strikes, precision strikes particularly when we have to go after islamic state leaders in major population centers like syria or mosul in northern iraq. i'm afraid the president is once again making -- putting down a marker which he's going to be very hard put to maintain while at the same time pursuing a goal of the ultimate destruction of isi

one of at least 41 bombings in syria in 24 hour, but isis isn't stopping. a website backing the group released video claiming to show isis fighters firing heavy weapons at the syrian town of qabani. it's home to 400,000 kurds. in qabani falls it will be a humanitarian disaster. these refugees from qabani are determined not to let that happen. these men decided now is the time to fise is while the u.s. is carrying out isis they want to be the boots on the ground and many don't expect to survive. the u.s. has been looking for ground partners in this war. these men encouraged by u.s. action are taking action to defend their own country. richard engel, nbc news, on the turkey/syria border. >> reporter: this is bill neely in erbil northern iraq with kurdish troops with isis on the run. they've retaken hilltops, cleared villages with the help of u.s. air strikes in the last 24 hours. on the front line they show me the isis target they'll attack next. the kurds are weary, but in need of heavy weapons. then they say they can drive out isis faster and for good. bill

pressure congress to vote against the united states striking syria, that is bashar al-assad's government. now we hear u.s. government, at the very leastnotified the syrian government that they were going to attack in syria. nearly, the syrian government did not strike them, even as they attacked. what about this shift of u.s. alliances right now? >> it is totally unclear what the u.s. is doing. there are some reports that by targeting khorasan, the u.s. will actually be strengthening other extremist groups because they're fighting internally with each other. endgame toolutely no this. the endgame we see is one like libya where it is a total failed state that is spreading extremism throughout the middle east. so there is no well-thought-out policy here. there is only a military mindset . it is counterproductive and will lead to more extremism. the u.s. becoming more of a target. it is totally wrong. your audience, amy, people who care about the future of this planet, should be getting out on the streets, calling the congress people, saying this was never discussed in the united states. there was never a vote by congress to go to war. t

carried out air strikes overnight in syria. at least 50 people died.y with news4 and nbcwashington.com for breaking developments. >>> you will need a jacket or layers this morning as we are in the 40s. later today, low 70s with increasing clouds. we'll need more rain tonight into tomorrow. feeling like summer over the weekend, melissa? >> we are about 15 minutes behind on most major roads. 95 heading north out of triangle is slow. >>> thank you for joining us this morning. >> the "today" show is next with chef paula deen speaking out. she'll talk to matt lauer about the controversy to stun her empire and her newest business venture. we are back in 25 minutes, have a great day. start shopping a new way. start maximizing at the place where you always get more than you pay for. t.j.maxx. brands you love, prices that work for you. you deserve it. maxx life at t.j.maxx. >>> good morning. breaking overnight, the u.s. and arab allies launch the first strikes on isis in syria, a massive assault on 20 targets from the air and sea. and u.s. officials say the ope

partners, saudi arabia, united arab emirates, jordan, bahrain and qatar have hit at least two dozen targets in syriahours before, barack obama met arab leaders in new york. a coalition aimed at fighting extremists. once again, he stressed his country is not alone in this fight. >> all of us are committed to making sure that we degrade, and ultimately destroy not only isil , but also the kind of extremist ideologies that would lead to so much bloodshed. but there was no objection to the bombings from the syrian government. the regime said that they supported antiterrorist operations and that washington wanted in advance. turkey has shifted its position on supporting the coalition. >> we have discuss it amongst each other and we will keep discussion it. -- discussing it. of course we will do our part. god willing, it also includes our government. >> turkey has been hesitant to join, while 46 nationals are held hostage by the islamic state group. >> let's get more on these reports of a fresh bombing raid on the islamic state group in syria. strikes reported they are hitting overnight near the turkish b

syria. well, let's get you up to speed on the very latest right now. the u.s. and at least five arab nations are participating in air strikes now on isis targets in raqqah and elsewhere in syria. >> a senior u.s. official tells cnn the goal here is to destroy the terror group's ability to command-and-control its fighters across the region. the operation includes tomahawk cruise missiles along with the air strikes. that's a picture there of tomahawk missiles being deployed. the u.s. did tell damascus about the operation in advance. >> meanwhile, isis has tweeted this photo, claiming it shows a communications tower damaged by the air strikes in raqqah. >> for more on these air strikes, i'm joined via webcam by rick francona, a retired lieutenant colonel. as we move through the evening, we're getting bits of information. jordan now confirming it did participate in the air strikes and also saying they plan to give more details in the hours to come. the region just waking up to this news. but how transformative, how big of a deal is it now that the u.s. has conducted air strikes

is using a mix of fighter bomber, tomahawk, land attack missiles in syria, and several arab nations have reportedly joined at least attacks. jim walsh joins us now from watertown mass rsh, an international security expert and associate at m.i.t. and somebody who nose a lot about this leej -- region, especially syria. how important, if this goes on, how important is the first move, jim? incredibly important, and is only of some limited gabs now. i know that sounds lie gobbledygook. but we're bombing syria. will today's bombing fundamentally change the balance of power in syria? that remains to be seen. it seems unlikely, right? this is military power's an instrument. it can help with some problems, not help with others. help a lot, help a little. so it's a big deal that we're getting involved here this is really a big deal but it remains to be seen how important military is relative to the political and the diplomatic. >> the strange thing just months ago the president of the united states was considering bombing air strikes against bashar al-assad's forces because it had used chemical weapons. >> yes. >> and now,

them tell us they do not believe the president needs their approval to launch air strikes in syria, at least not at first. but just in case, several lawmakers plan to introduce proactive legislation granting him that authority when congress returns next week. republican frank wolf of virginia is one of them. >> this group is moving. they are a violent group. you cannot negotiate with them. you cannot sit down and reason with them. >> reporter: the president tried to get congressional approval to strike the syrian regime last year, but he didn't get it. lawmakers tell us they believe this situation is different, and they see a clear threat to national security. scott? >> pelley: nancy, thanks. >> pelley: at the nato summit in wales tomorrow, the allies will also be addressing the crisis in ukraine, where the government is battling pro-russian rebels. in response to that situation, the president is sending more u.s. air force units and aircraft to the baltics. and the u.s. will contribute troops to a nato rapid response force in eastern europe. more now from mark phillips. >> reporter: there's

president last week still didn't have a strategy regarding isis in syria even though for at least a yeare's been getting detailed information about that. right? how do the network, the big three networks where most americans still get their news, how do they play the story? they don't. >> yeah. >> nothing. >> right. >> zero. so any implication -- and i don't know if you were implying it, but others have, that the media are now getting tough on him, yeah, some reporters are, some reporters are doing their job, but overall, they will tend to emphasize whatever positive is left of this presidency and de-emphasize the negative. >> well, now the only -- freedman in "the new york times," i mentioned last night, is probably the only one that i saw this week defending president obama because fraedman saying, well, he's being cautious and deliberate and you have to do it this way. and all -- you know, i don't see a sense of urgency, as you pointed out. if you know something for a year and don't have a strategy at the end of the year, that's on you. that's your fault. especially when americans are

the majority of forces are in syria now, at least a lot of equipment is in syria, not iraq. >> do youlieve the killings are an attack on the u.s.? >> i believe they post a direct threat to the united states of america because the director of national intelligence, the head of secretary of homeland security, the list of our intelligence people. does that mean an immediate threat? do they have a specific threat? i don't know that. i know they are dedicated to attacking the united states. that's why mr. bagidy said i'll say you in new york. is there any doubt they have to be not just contained but defeated? >> the president wants to get other regional actors involved, is that something you support? >> i certainly support it. what is his goal? right now he says humanitarian protection and humanitarian crisis and protecting american troops. that's not a reason to build a coalition. you have to lead coalitions. america must lead, not just equals. we lead, they follow. that's history since the end of world war ii. but to not have a goal and a strategy to implement those goals is not very app

syria, bashar al assad clearly not involved, overtly at least, in this campaign. experts will tell you there have been back channels open to bashar al assad in syria, but as things stand at the moment no overt involvement. and then there is iran. the very big other influential player in this region. they have been active on the ground in iraq in providing military equipment to the peshmerga and the iraqi forces who have been fighting against isis over the past month in the north of iraq. but as we know, and this may change, as the unga kicks off in new york, but as things stand at the moment americans say they won't be part of the coalition of the willing and even tehran said they have been asked by wash wark, not something wash has verified but they say they've been asked by washington. they say they won't get involved. >> becky, thank you verify. we need to get to washington. i want to get to cnn's jim sciutto. jim was reporting earlier from the white house. we've been getting information about the president being kept abreast of the situation that's happening in

right now the force best position to that in syria at least is the government of al assad. >> richardthank you. we look forward to seeing your full report on the the show. >>> melissa mill lay. >> eastbound old ox road shut down after sully road. the person injured taken from the scene. slow top of the beltway. let's take a look at a couple of travel times. the outer loop from 95 to 270, again, looking pretty good at about 20 minutes. maybe a little longer than we would like to see. but not so bad. quantico and 495, just about three minutes longer than your normal drive time at 37. and george washington parkway, looking good at 15 minutes. tom, back in 10, right? >> a little bit of fog over the potomac and out of the mountain capital wheel. live view from national harbor cam. by 8:00, you'll still need a light jacket. w to mid-50s. this evening going forward the next 24 hours, into the 6 0s. by dawn tomorrow, might have a few scattered sprgr 6:51. back to you. >>> are you sick of traffic on the beltway? how you can soon ride the express lan for free >> plus, you may have seen this pho

. >> to date the administration has only publicly at least confirmed one operation inside syria and thatrescue mission. >> that's correct. >> so the argument that you are taking on the threat of isil with the president's authorization for those two specific things, humanitarian and protection of u.s. personnel facilities, would apply only to iraq at the moment, correct? >> correct. >> not to syria. >> that's correct. that's only part of our effort and obviously isil on the threat it poses to the region has a trickle out effect from iraq, from syria and other places. the second piece, which is also vitally important is our effort to build an international coalition. a number of countries have taken steps, humanitarian steps, steps to provide military equipment in iraq as a result and we'll continue those discussions. >> all within iraq and nothing within syria which is where this problem began. >> i understand. >> a lot of people would suggest the administration -- the president's reluctance to do more to oppose the extremists in syria has resulted in this situation. >> in what capacity?

syria. the terror group's stronghold. republican peter king thinks the president needs to have a comprehensive strategy. >> that would involve at the very least all out air attacks against isis in both iraq and syria. >> reporter: on tuesday the president briefed top congressional leaders. democrat nancy pelosi called a meeting a valuable opportunity for consultation. republican house speaker john boehner said he would support the president targeting isis leadership. president obama told the leaders he has the authority to broaden the military campaign against isis without congressional approval. but some lawmakers here on capitol hill disagree. >> i don't believe that the president has the authority to, quote, go on offense and wage an open ended war on isil without congressional approval. >> it would be to his advantage and all of our advantage for congress to be in effect approving a plan for defeeght isil. >> reporter: secretary of state -- defeating isil. >> reporter: secretary of state john kerry is in baghdad to discuss ways the u.s. can increase support to the government's new government in its effort to defeat isis. mark albert, cbs

one month ago, we certainly can't get involved in syria, now we're bombing at least some isis assets . it may degrade isis a little and they control raqqa and syria, and we need to destroy this organization, i think and that will mean a real war not just some air war against oil. >> i'm happy he's doing what he's doing. >> you won't see a land invasion again in iraq and a massive occupation under this president. ult hatly, the army that was rained up by the united states military, by general petraeus and others has to do that job. >> with advisers embedded. >> i don't -- i don't -- i don't disagree with that at all. >> that's what everyone's calling for. >> but that's different from the idea of an invasion and occupation for sustained on on. >> he's going to get dragged into eventually sending in the 20,000 troops to destroy isis. >> what is true is the iraqi army is more capable than we saw earlier this year. what they need is quality leadership. >> thank you so much. thanks to all our guests this hour and thank you for watching. that's it for "the lead." i'll turn you over to wolf b

their foreign secretary says they will not be taking part in any airstrikes in syria. at least britain has our back. >> let me be clear. britain will not be taking part in any airstrikes in syria. i can be very clear about that. >> those not what he told me over tea. the coalition will include forces who started an assault on isis. >> these are brave people, come on! meanwhile, as the threat -- >> i think i dated that guy. >> it reminded you of a guy you dated. >> as the threat posed by isis continues to be debated groups have discussed entering the u.s. through mexico. all i can say is get in line. you know what i'm saying, baker? you are the expert here. first of all, you told me you loved obama's speech. why? >> it is a rare day when i don't love everything he says. >> that's true. >> this is one of those cases where i need to separate the politics if at all possible from the operational requirements. we can all argue or not that the white house was slow to the game here. but let's just be happy that now they appear to want to at least in the dpais -- in the face of it defea

at least in iraq, not syria, at least not yet. second phase which is standing up the iraqi government and making sure the u.s. doesn't become the air force for the iraqi government and not sending u.s. ground troops. building up the iraqi military so they do some of the heavy lifting. the third and final phase will be the hardest, weighing how much and when to go into syria. is it an air campaign? do you bring allies in to do that? general martin dempsey said weeks ago you are not going to defeat isis unless you go into syria and root out this cancer. this phase all along has been about syria and not iraq. the administration officials are saying in a speech wednesday we can expect the president to lay out a time line of this taking up to three years to defeat isis meaning he would be handing this off to the next democratic or republican president. saying this could take up to 3 years. number one, admiral kirby said this won't take years and years. there tend to be a disconnect within the administration. the details of the strategy

rhetoric as far as destroying isil and doing thins like that we are looking at containing isil at least in syria at this point. >> reporters on the ground are saying isil fighters are beginning to go underground and hide amid the civilian populations. what does that tell you about the tactical challenges of combating this group? >> they're going to because they've got time and because we're giving them time through a one dimensional campaign that is an air campaign, we are allowing them to go underground. that is a significant shortfall in the strategy. if you want to destroy an organization like isil, you need a multi-facetted approach and that approach should contain several elements of military power as well as elements of the political and social aspects that are so important to really changing the mindset that we're dealing with. >> should the u.s. be considering arming the syrian kurds who we understand are fighting alongside the free syrian army? >> i certainly would consider it if i were in a policy making position. they have a vested interest in protecting home territory and making sure

raised over fears about radicalized australians returning from fighting for militants in syria and iraq. at least 60 are believed to be jihadist groups in syria and iraq. 15 reports have died there including two who were suicide bombers. australian police believe about 100 people in their country currently support the terror groups. this week australia announced it plans to send 600 troops and aircraft to the middle east to help the fight against islamic militants. thank you, sean. >> david, thank you. meanwhile back here at home increasing concerns about terrorists entering this country via the southern border after reports of four individuals with ties to terrorist organizations were in fact apprehended at the border on september 10th, that's one day before the 9/11 anniversary. fox's own katy pavlic joins us from washington tonight. she has all the details. >> good evening, sean. as isis continues to make headlines there's new concern tonight after republican congressman jason chaffetz said yesterday during a house homeland security hearing that four men with ties to radical islamic terror gro

syria. it it comes down to this basic question, it looks to me that there are at least three identifiable forces in syria. assad, isil and what we hope are moderate opposition forces we can work with, but i am also told and have been told there are up to 1500 different millish a in that country and some are neighborhood militia. how can we chart a course here that defeats isil in syria and does not, in the end, strengthen assad's hand? how can we find the so-called moderate opposition in syria and believe that something will emerge there that results in syrians deciding their own fate in the future as their responsib responsibilit responsibility? >> a very good question and the calculation is that -- even with the difficulties that they faced over the last year and a half particularly -- i remember when i first came in february of last year the -- the opposition in syria was actually in a slightly better position with respect to assad and the other groups and there weren't as many of the other groups at that moment in time and then regrettably they started to squabble politically as well as whic

they want voted on, one is looking to authorize airstrikes so that the president can at least legally strike syriao another proposal that would revoke citizenship of any americans who have gone overseas to join isis. liz? liz: rich, i know you've also been watching the story about twitter, and maybe if they just track certain people's twitter accounts, all you have to do is go on there, and you will see what's going on when it comes to isis. fear continues to grow here in the u.s., but step for step sympathetic messages for isis, that terrorist organization, are spreading all over social media sites really prevalently on twitter despite ceo dick costolo's promise to disable accounts that displayed graphic images of these beheadings. more than 27,000 pro-jihadi twitter users still are tweeting, still joining up the cause, cheering on isis. so we thought we've got to ask you guys a question, and we're big believers in freedom of speech. 100 president. but do you think -- 100%. but do you think twitter should be doing more to sensor isis supporters specifically? this is a very fine line to walk, i un

air strikes overnight killed at least a dozen isis fighters in syria and now more nations are joining the u.s.-led coalition against the terror organization. the moves come after president obama made his case to the united nations. he's asking other countries to stand with the united states in efforts to take down the islamic extremist group. susan mcginnis is in washington. susan, good morning. >> anne-marie, good morning. the speech from the president at the united nations comes and they continue to pound isis targets include manager, many small oil installations, a major source of this group's funding. now, as the president issued this international call to arms he issue add warning about what is to come saying anyone who has joined isil should leave the battlefield while they can. amid a sustained campaign targeting isis with air strikes in syria, president obama asked the united nations general assembly to stand with the u.s. in the efforts to dismantle the terrorist group. >> collect ifly we must take concrete steps to address the religiously fanatics. >> they rally with the wor

> there is a debate going on for months now what exactly the obama strategy is in iraq and in syria. at least officially the bombing campaigns are to protect the american interests, and for humane han tarn interesting. there was an interesting exchange and the reporter is saying that the killing of them is an act of war and we have to destroy the islamic state. that is what we are hearing on cable tv, we have to respond firmly and decisively and very violently when the american citizens are killed overseas. the obama administration is saying at least, and our reporting is saying, that the bombing campaign in iraq is about the humanitarian issues and protecting interests. >> okay, thank you very much indeed. just a few days ago, there was a video appeal for her son's release. >> my son steven is your hands and steven travelled to the middle east. steven is a loyal and generous son, brother and grandson. he's an honorable man and always tried to help the weak. we have not seen steven for over a year and want to see him very much and want him safe and sound and hug him. >> heart breaking comment

intervention in iraq and syria at least four times in the first hour.his is cofounder medea benjamin differencing -- speaking to chuck hagel. >> [inaudible] >> i will ask you nicely to please -- >> [indiscernible] >> thank you. i will ask you for the last time. medea -- >> open the way for isil. u.s. military will not be -- >> [indiscernible] >> we had 13 years of war already. >> the conflict among factions in syria has been intensifying ahead of possible u.s. strikes against islamic state fighters there. two days of syrian government airstrikes that killed at least 40 people in homs province. the syrian-based observatory for human rights says at least six children are among the dead. islamic state fighters announced they had shut down a searing military aircraft in the northern city of raqqa. in idlib, at least 34 children are said to have died after receiving tainted doses of the measles vaccine. the syrian rebel coalition to which was running the program, said supporters of the bashar al-assad regime may have tampered with the vaccines. they say the