leon panetta in hearings just a few weeks ago summed it up. this is the most complicated thing he has ever seen in government, and leon panetta's been around government for a long time. just one final comment before i take your questions and comments. the research for this book is, obviously, difficult to do. we're talking about secret intelligence organizations, the cia does not like to have it truths revealed even by it own former employees. the isi doesn't like anyone to smoke around the isi, and despite my many requests, al-qaeda and osama bin laden have consistently turned down by requests for interviews. i've always requested an interview by interactive camera so we didn't actually get together. [laughter] what i have been able to do is over the course of many years both in government and since i left government speak with and interview many of the key figures in this story. including four presidents, including secretaries of state, including every american ambassador to pakistan, including every directer general of the isi since the 198

it much prefers to let obama and leon panetta take all of the flak. it demonstrates the contradictions that are at the heart of our relationship with pakistan and which make it such a difficult partner to work with these days. >> thanks. >> thank you. [applause] [applause] >> you are watching book tv on c-span2. 48 hours of nonfiction authors and books every weekend. >> wendell potter is a former executive with signa health care. mr. potter, your become coming out "deadly spin" what's it about? >> it means finally i'm able to tell my story in a method that i haven't had a chance to do before. to take people behind the scenes to make sure that people understand what really goes on in corporate america and how influential we are in influencing public opinion with the sole purpose of changing policy and influencing public policy. in particular, you use the debate on health care. how the insurance was able to shape how the legislation took shape and now it was finally passed. >> what was your role in influencing how people saw health care? >> my role was

that leon panetta will go to defense to replace secretary gates when he leaves in the summer and that petraeus will come back from kabul to be the next c.i.a. director. >> that's a good one. chris: 90% chance? 80% chance? >> i would say under 50%. that's why david broder would never have it! 3 chris: we'll be right back with the big question of the week. how many more mideast countries are going to erupt in revolution after libya? be right back. chris: welcome back. .2011 revolutions in the arab world started in tunisia, spread to egypt, but may be at a standoff in libya. our big question of the week, has itnded in libya or will it spread around the region snon david brooks? >> i'm afraid we will see massacres there if we don't do something. chris: should we go in without the arab league? >> we should. the question to me is should we arm some of the rebels. >> i'm ask surprise it's not -- stopping already. the military has screened off the very top layer of government but doesn't show indications that it's really moving to democratic rule. >> on the hill that's what i'm hearing as wel

the regime of the egyptian president hosni mubarak fell both secretary clinton and cia director leon panetta called it stable. but. who are preparing there are also an consistencies on the war in afghanistan in afghanistan integrated military and civilian surges that help set the stage for our diplomatic surge to support afghan led reconciliation that could end the conflict and put al qaeda on the run but robert want cans of senior u.n. official just said quote it is fair to say that security in the country is at its lowest point since the departure of the taliban even secretary of defense robert gates said this just last week to a group of kids that at west point but in my opinion any future's defense secretary who advises the president to again send a big american land army and asia. or into the middle east or africa should have his head examined as general macarthur so delicately put it there is also the matter of money u.s. own economy weak and losing leverage to other powers like china and brazil and other frustrations voiced by lawmakers doesn't make any sense for us to be borrowing mo

statement when he signed this executive order didn't even mention closing gitmo last month we heard leon panetta say a director say that if they ever caught osama bin laden they would send him to get no which means it's still open for business so you know is it your to say well here's the thing two years ago president obama came into office and said very proudly very rightly we're going to close this place down he actually cited executive orders so that within a year we're going to close this place down but since then you have things that fall apart we had congress and i and the bidens. to close the operation there and bring the president stateside and we even had people in small world towns illinois saying sure the detainees here you know we could use the stimulus from building prisons for these people and yet congress has provided. their ministration has buckled under pressure from the right wing. you know maybe we won't put everyone in civilian trials and we won't return to our sense of american justice that work for you know the first hundred seventy two hundred years of american history and

general pasha had to greg dealings with the cia director leon panetta to work all this out that there was a new modus vivendi worked out between the i.s.i. and cia the very clear that cia gave ground to green to give them information about the identity of its personnel working in pakistan and at least general information about the scope of cia operations there those were the need give give ups that the i.s.i. was looking for so certainly they certainly got something both counts and it's valid thank you very much for joining us and you know if this story is not over as you say raymond davis when he gets back here to the us. thanks. after weeks of protests in bahrain the violence is now picking up soldiers and riot police expelled hundreds of protesters from pearl square and bahrain's capital on wednesday using tear gas and armored vehicles at least six people have been reported dead as well as three police officers and the majority shia population is calling for an end to the two hundred year old monarchy of sunni leaders for political reforms for equal rights but this conflict like th

. >> leon panetta will succeed bye-bye.

leon panetta hearings a few weeks ago this is the most complicated thing he has ever seen in the government and he has been around for a long time. just one personal days last comment the research for the book is difficult to do. talking about secret intelligence organizations for the cia does not like to have this truth revealed even from their own former employees. the isi does not like anyone and despite my men the request al qaeda and osama bin laden have turned down my request for interviews. i always ask by the interactive camera. but what i have been able to do over the course of many years in the government is speak with an interview of many key figures including four presidents including secretary of state and every american ambassador and every director general from the isi. i spent a great deal of time with benazir bhutto president musharraf. did they all tell me the truth? of course, not. duplicity is at the essence of this relationship hillsides the least i have done the conscious job of reaching out to get everybody's story. with fact, i look forward to your questions for coul

it prefers barack obama and leon panetta to take it. it demonstrates contradiction at the heart of our relationship to make it a difficult partner thank you. [applause] . . >> some women told me, you know, it sounds like very much nurses that they really wanted to escape their small towns. they didn't want to live with their friends who were marrying young and having babies. some wanted adventure. they wanted to go to war and they really wanted to fight. i talked to one woman who was german who emigrated to the united states because she was too sold for the german military and she really wanted to fight in war. >> what would be their motivation? >> some of it was economic. there were many women i talked to who came from real poverty. i mean, very series poverty and for them the military was a way out. i spoke with many, many women who had been teen mothers and had children very, very young, and they saw this as a career path. it was a good career path and in light of debates over health care, there were several women who had children wi

when i met with director leon panetta, i pointed out that i wanted him to know that we got this wrong this was a clean swing and a mess on our part. it was not the politicize nation of intelligence. we got it wrong. we were very hard to correct the mistakes that we made then. host: former cia director during the george bush and administration,michael hayden, thanks for your time it inside. we will take a short time out. coming up later in the program, we will speak with the national security reporter from the "new york times." in a couple of minutes, we will discuss education. we will take a look at what is happening in the states and the vice president of the national education association. in the meantime, some news from c-span radio. >> politico reports that west virginia democratic senator will deliver a speech today on the senate floor on funding the federal government, in which he will say that president obama has failed to lead and needs to step up to the negotiating table. the senator plans to vote against democratic and republican versions of a long- term resolution. live cov

when i met with director leon panetta, i pointed out that i wanted him to know that we got this wrong this was a clean swing and a ss on our part. it was not the politicize nation of intelligence. we got it wrong. we were very hard to correct the mistakes that we made then. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2011] >> the u.s. house will gavel in. tomorrow congress hears from the australian prime minister in a joint meeting. we'll have live corge of that at 11:00 a.m. eastern. meanwhile, british prime minister fields questions from the house of commons tomorrow morning. you can see live coverage of prime minister's questions at 7:00 a.m. eastern and that's on c-span 2. white house chief economist says the economy is transitioning to a growth phase. he was the key note speaker at today's national association of business economics policy conference. the event focuses on economic policies and trends currently impacting the global economy and economic challenges ahead. this is 45 minutes. >> thank you for taking a litt