. >>> charged with dessertion we'll talk about this with leon panetta. >>> good day, i'm andrea mitchell in washington. we have major developments in what is now a criminal investigation not an accident. germanwings flight 9525 was deliberately flown into the mountain by the co-pilot who locked the door and refused to let the pilot back in identified as a german sit zen, the co-pilot pressed a button to send the plane into a deliberate descent, all determined from listening from the cockpit void recorder. no medical emergency, leading investigators to rule out that or any oxygen failure. horrified passengers are heard screaming moments before impact. we have all angles of this story covered. joining me now is keir simmons, from the staging area in southern france. tom costello is in our washington newsroom and retired airline pilot and msnbc aviation analyst john cox stands by as well. first to you keir the families have arrived and come from barcelona and dusseldorf embarkation and destination of this doomed flight. tell us what you know the latest from the investigation as well. >> rep

cia director leon panetta helped provide secret information to the filmmakers of "zero dark thirty,"the hollywood film about the raid that killed osama bin laden, but never faced punishment. and just last week, it emerged that a long-running investigation of a former top-ranking pentagon general for leaking the information that publicly exposed a u.s. cyberwarfare operation against iran has stalled. according to "the washington post," general james cartwright had authorization to speak to reporters, and defense attorneys -- "might try to put the white house's relationship with reporters and the use of authorized leaks on display, creating a potentially embarrassing distraction for the administration." for more we are joined by jesselyn radack, national security and human rights director at the government accountability project. she is former ethics adviser to the united states department of justice. she is one of the lawyers for edward snowden, thomas drake ,and john kiriakou -- three whistleblowers all charged under the espionage act. she recently wrote a piece for foreign policy ma

even leon panetta saying he's concerned about trusting the iranians in something like this. who has the most to lose here? i mean we definitely would like to see an iran that does not have a bomb. but what about israel? saudi arabia? egypt, jordan. they don't want that either. >> well that's right. and nobody wants iran to have a bomb. and so they have all stand to benefit if the negotiation is a good negotiation. but apart from the nuclear issue, there is nothing that suggests that iran is going to stop its meddling in the region. it hasn't committed to stopping its support of bashir assad in lebanon and in syria. it hasn't said it's going to be nice to israel. it hasn't said it's not going to contest in yemen and elsewhere in saudi arabia. and so all we've tried to do with this is -- we the united states has tried to do is take the nuclear issue off the table. and even if it's only off the table for a few years, ten years. that's still helpful. >> what's the real way to take the nuclear issue off the table with iran? that's only one way to really do it. bomb -- someone has

in january of 2013, then- secretary of defense leon panetta formally lifted rules that excluded womenfrom ground combat, a change that recognized the danger that many women have faced in afghanistan and iraq since 2001. >> they are fighting and dying together. and the time has come for our policies to recognize that reality. >> sreenivasan: today, women represent about 9% of living veterans. by the middle of this century, that number is expected to nearly double. >> sreenivasan: some more news before we leave you tonight. authorities say the man who attacked security agents at new orleans international airport last night with wasp and spray and a machete, also was carrying explosives, six molotov cocktails. the incident ended when police shot and wounded him. if your m.c.a.a. basketball bracket has been busted you are not alone. espn has 11 million fans signed up and going into day three of play today only one person was still perfect in their predictions. that's it for this edition of pbs newshour weekend. i'm hari sreenivasan. have a good night. captioning sponsored by wnet captione

many people know, when leon panetta testified he thought the next pearl harbor might be a cyber thrust. >> leon did say that. our general assessment is, as i called it, characterized it, the likelihood of a cyber armageddon is not as likely as the insidious increase in the nature of attacks. as exemplified by the two bank attacks on our soil. another ratcheting up read that is the nature of the threat, rather than some massive pearl harbor or armageddon type attack. only a nationstate could do that. there are only a couple of nationstates. clearly, nationstates, unlike non-nationstates, while they have a larger capability, also have vulnerabilities. >> nationstates do. >> china and russia. >> they have capabilities. >> the most of his gated and capable pervasive capabilities are represented by those two bank countries. >> when you went to north korea, you said that was on your bucket list. >> some people think that was strange. it stems from the fact that i served in the republic of korea. i was director of forces. got very involved in the issues on the peninsula. so it was always a pr

even the man you trusted enough to appoint as your secretary of defense, leon panetta, said the iranians just can't be trusted. and how can we be sure iran won't put itself in the position of uranium, building a nuclear bomb, when they won't even agree to snap inspections? now, mr. president, we say america's goal is to defeat terrorism. to advance democracy and human rights around the world. so why, mr. president, would you insist on dancing with the devil? why isn't our one true ally, israel, or egypt on your dance card? more american blood has been spilled by iran and terrorism it sponsor in the middle east than by any other country. iran says it's within its rights to enrich uranium. that's like saying a mass murderer living next to a day care has the right to buy as many ak-47s as he wants. mr. president, america needs to stop sleeping with the enemy, dancing with the devil, and writing love letters to those who want to kill us. this love story isn't going to end the way you think it is. it's time to break off the engagement. and that's my open. tell me what you think on facebook or

tomorrow leon panetta. thomas roberts is here with what's next. >> coming up the details about what we're learning from the plane crash in the french alps including what's happening with the black boxes as well as a look at the americans who were on board that plane as remembrances pour in. plus robert durst is being eyed in connection with a missing person from vermont. what police say he might be involved with there. and the situation in yemen. that's escalating out of control. as we've just learned, the country's president now on the run. so where did he go? then on a lighter note, we are talking to the crying piccolo girl. seriously, remember her? she was a little upset with villanova villanova. she was on fallon. but anyway, we're going to talk to her. it's all coming up on "msnbc live with thomas roberts." i'd steer clear. straight talk. multiplied by 13,000 financial advisors it's how edward jones makes sense of investing. [ male announcer ] at northrop grumman, we've always been at the forefront of

leon panetta said when he was a cia director one thing he learned the iranians can't be trusted.sted -- hidden facilities have been discovered over the years in iran, but never by the inspectors, only when the iranians dissidents let us know there have been facilities that have not been disclosed by iranians. >> unbelievable to me. i'm afraid we'll take anything they give us and put our john hancock on the bottom line, fred. thank you for coming on and talking to us about it. we appreciate your time. >> you're welcome. >> in other news tonight, stunning new revelations in the case of german flight 9525. the co-pilot who deliberately crashed the plane has been treated for suicidal tendencies years before he earned his pilot's license. new criticisms mount on how the cockpit door is secured. are the post 9/11 rules keeping the bad guys out? we have up to the minute analysis with a pilot and aviation expert. sal, welcome to the show. great to have you here. >> thank you. gerri: so this poor twisted pilot who took so many people with him when he committed suicide he failed to self-re

[applause] i think that is a problem, even leon panetta has said that is a mistake because they were just wait you out. i think we should not be doing it alone. first and foremost, you have to consult with a congress. you need to listen to those who advise you, not only those who advise you, but the generals in the field. we need to branch out and reaffirm our allies. we need is restate that israel is a prime ally, also working with united kingdom, japan australia, others, and i believe that a lot of what has happened in the last 6-7 months, i believe there are partners in the correlation like jordan, egypt, because of what happened to their own citizens out there and have a true coalition force, and then we have to take action depending on what the objective is. i'm not proposing to engage full scale boots on the ground, but i'm not take metal the table because i think we need to be clear what our objective years -- objective years. -- objective allie: hello? yes, i guess it is on. ok. you had mentioned earlier about taking power away from the federal government and moving it to the

many people know when leon panetta testified before congress he said he thought the next pearl harbor might be a cyber thrust. >> he did say that. i think our general assessment is that as i called it characterized in my testimony likely a cyber arm -- armageddon isn't as likely as this insidious increase in the nature of the attacks. and exemplified by the two attacks taken place on our soil last year. so that was another ratcheting up if you will and i think that's the nature of the threat rather than some massive pearl harbor or armageddon type attack. because only a nation state could do that, of that magnitude. and there's only a couple nation states. a clearly nation states, unlike non-station state entities while they have a larger capability also have vulnerabilities which of course we could -- >> rose: nation states -- >> yes. >> rose: china is one of them i would assume. >> china and russia. >> rose: those are the two that have the capability in terms of nation states to do it. >> most capable and most persuasive capability i think is represented in those two countries. >> r

even leon panetta has said that's a mistake because they will just wait you out. i think we should not be doing it alone. you've got to consult with the congress first and foremost and listen to those who had lies you him and not just the joint cheese but the generals in the field as well as your intelligence community and we need to branch out and reaffirm our allies. israel is a prime ally but also working with the united kingdom germany, japan, australia, canada and others out there. i believe in light of what happened in the last six or seven months, i believe there are partners in the coalition we can draw on from the arab world like jordan, egypt because of what's happened to their own citizens and have a true coalition force. and then we got to take action depending on where it's appropriately designed by our military and coalition forces. i'm not proposing to engage full scale boots on the ground but i'm not taking that off the table because i think we need to be clear what our objective is and it has to be a generational act to make sure we eradicate radi

because i think -- [applause] i think that is a problem, even leon panetta, his former secretary of defense, has said that is a mistake because they will just wait you out. but i think we should not be doing it alone. first and foremost, you have to consult with the congress. you have to listen to those who advise you, the generals in the field to get a real feel for what is going on, as well as your intelligence community. restating israel as a prime alec -- ally, but also working with england, japan, germany, canada, and others out there. i believe there are partners in the coalition we can draw on from the arab world like jordan, like egypt because of what has happened to their own citizens out there and have a true coalition force. and then we had to take action depending -- i do not -- i am not proposing to engage full scale boots on the ground, but i'm not taking that off the table because i think we need to be clear what our objective is. and our objective has to be a generational act to make sure we eradicate radical islamic terrorism before it comes to our shore. [applause] >> [ind

term of the obama administration when they were getting some good advice from hillary clinton, leon panetta, bob gates, they were pretty good at imposing tough sanctions on iran. they were squeezing iran. they were gaining benefit from iran from those sanctions. they were getting themselves in a position to negotiate a good deal. but what's happened since then? not only have those people left, but i have talked to people inside the negotiating process who will say they reach an impasse and then there are more people more senior come into the conversation and they say things like, well, how do we solve this problem and they capitulate and they soften the deal. i spoke to a former senior national security official democrat, who said to me just two days ago, at this point in the negotiation, from the school of negotiation in which i was raised, i would be ordering everybody down into the lobby with their luggage and saying we're leaving because only in showing that you don't need the deal do you actually have the leverage you need to achieve the deal that you want. and that right now our body

let's also remember earlier in the administration both the then-defense secretary leon panetta and secretary of state hillary clinton opposed the heavy price on this swap. although as she opened up her book tour hillary clinton sort of flip-flopped and back peddled and suggested the back the president in this swap for bergdahl. listen. >> if you look at what the factors were going into the decision of course there are competing interests and values. one of our values is we bring everybody home off the battlefield the best we can. it doesn't matter how they ended up in a prisoner of war situation. >> doesn't matter how it ended up. tonight speaker john boehner is rejecting that idea. he says of course bowe bergdahl is innocent until proven guilty but boehner goes onto say "my chief concern remains president obama's decision to release five hardened terrorists with no guarantees that they won't return to the battlefield. i believe it made americans less safe." that from speaker john boehner. the significance here is also let's not forget that the reason congress got so angry at the beginning o

there was a lot of talk including the cia director at the time leon panetta about being close to a defeat conversation evaporated. it's largely because of the rise of the islamic state and the chaos in libya and yemen has given this movement so much more room to operate. it just has a lot of people worried it's a much longer fight than they thought it was going to be two years ago. >> another point you make in that list, the ongoing influx of foirn fighters into syria and how -- why is that harder to track? if you have foreign fighters and also the domestic ones their ideologies spreading here. why are they harder to track? >> it's really difficult to track once they get into syria. i think the authorities have done a decent job trying to identify the europeans and the few americans who have gone to syria. but there are so many of them. so many more than ever went to afghanistan during the 1980s for innocence. it's largely geography. it's easier for europeans to get to syria than afghanistan, a much more remote place. the appeal of the islamic state is so much more powerful. it uses socia

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charlie: leon panetta bob gates, and so many other people that have been on my program over the last -- you've been with the president in this administration have said the biggest threat to america's national security is disnungs washington. -- is dysfunction in washington. if the president had one goal, he believed he could create bipartisanship. what happened? dan: let's stipulate, we can always do things better. the president could call more members, we could meet with more people. but the problem here is too larger -- is two larger problems. one is the republicans made a specific strategic decision, famously articulated by mitch mcconnel, that their goal was to not work for the president but do everything they could to oppose an defeat him. they decided that was in their political interest and they followed through on that the president can do a lot. he can't really decide what the republicans' political interest is for them. that was one. and the second is, which i think exacerbated a growing problem, was the campaign finance decision from the supreme court which gave such sway

and leon panetta was speaking about this on our air a few hours ago, and basically saying part of whaty to constrain iran and iraq, not for orr goals, which again, i think is confounding to some people. let's listen to that. >> i think it is very important for the united states now to take a more leading role with regards to providing support for the iraqis and going after tikrit, not only to try to push isis back but also to try to reduce the influence of iran in that region of the world. and that's with records to the houthi is, in yemen. >> do you buy that? does that reduce iran's influence if successful? >> good luck in actually doing that. if you look back the 2003 iraq war, when we went in it created a lot of mistakes. but one of the biggest mistakes is we ended a policy of dual containment. we contained saddam hussein under iraq who didn't have nuclear weapons, and we contained iran. and that war led to an expansion of iranian influence, and, you know, the rest is like watching gravity take place. so we might be able to tweak things along the margins. but quite simply over the l

. >> even leon panetta, president obama's former defense secretary, says we can't trust iran over nuclearpirals further into chaos. general wesley clark will be here with reaction. >> the fact that torn up sick notes encompassing recent days support the preliminary assessment that the deceased hid his illness were his employer and colleagues. >>> the co pilot of the doomed germanwings aircraft had reportedly been treated for severe depression. how easy is it for

[applause] during that entire evening she never once called the secretary of defense leon panetta.he but has been on the phone every 15 minutes and that fundamental reality is she did not prepare for that attack or anticipate it she was not doing her job to protect americans that were sent to dangers posed overseas. we knew from february that libya had descended into chaos. we had to had a ferry boat to get the people lot of tripoli and then to take steps again september 11th and people were left to die in a terrorist attack and we had no way to rescue them. but even worse under tenure tenure, the entire administration into a reservoir person to bring this to this state's with no retribution retaliation with the terrorists in their state sponsors around the world have learned under barack obama or hillary clinton you can kill an ambassador into a without impunity. that is hillary clinton's legacy. we have pursued a policy against the ally of israel thinking it is israel's action with peace and security in the middle east. it was hillary clinton's reset button that was sunday been t

as former secretary of defense leon panetta explained, these cuts have put us on the path to the smallest army since world war ii, the smallest navy since world war i, and the smallest air force ever. these impacts won't just be immediate, they will be felt long into the future. key programs once divested will be difficult to restart. manufacturing economy will be lost. the skilled labor pool will shrink. the defense and manufacturing base with atrophy. today's beps systems and equipment will age and begin to break down. our troops won't be able to train and their weapons equipments won't be ready for the fight. in short, we will have a hollow force incapable of defending our national security. what is then to be done? our experiment with retreat must end. this congress must again recognize that our national security is the first priority of the government and the military budget must reflect the threats we face, rather than the budget defining those threats. this week, the senate budget resolution will reflect a base defense budget of $523 billion and emergency supplemental spending of $

as former secretary of defense leon panetta explained, these cuts have put us on the path to the smallest army since world war ii, the smallest navy since world war ii, and the smallest air force ever. these impacts won't just be immediate, they will be felt long into the future. key programs once divested will be difficult to restart. manufacturing economy taebss will be lost. the skilled labor pool will shrink. the defense and manufacturing base with atrophy. today's beps systems and equipment will age and begin to break down. our troops won't be able to train and their weapons equipments won't be ready for the fight. in short we will have a hollow force incapable of defending our national security. what is then to be done? our experiment with retreat must end. this congress must again recognize that our national security is the first priority of the government and the military budget must reflect the threats we face, rather than the budget defining those threats. this week the senate budget resolution will reflect a base defense budget of $523 billion and emergency supplemental spendin

i asked leon panetta in 2007, if you pulled a sequestration trigger, would it be like shooting yourself in the foot, he said it would be like shooting yourself in the head. i have never seen more threats to our nations, or terrace, more capability, more weapons, more desire, to hit the homeland than i do now. this is a step to try to stop that. chairman: opposition? senator sanders: this country went to war in iraq and afghanistan under president bush but did not pay for that war. those wars will cost us between three join dollars and $6 trillion. my republican colleagues tell us that we need to cut medicare, education. the needs of the sick, because of a large deficit. what this amendment does is use budget gimmickry to add another $38 billion to the deficit. if senator graham wants more money for the military, let's argue it out. but do not go through the process of budget gimmickry, add more money to the deficit without serious debate that we need. i fear very much the passage of this amendment lays the groundwork for another war to be unpaid for. i think that is a very very bad idea

cia a lot of programs affected but none more than the military and leon panetta in 2011. if you pull the sequestration trigger is the nation would it be like shooting yourself in the foot? he said no, it would be like shooting yourself in the head. i've never seen more threats, more safe havens in the more terrorist organizations, more money more capability, more desire to hit the homeland than i do now. this amendment is a step to try and stop that. >> opposition? >> chairman, this country went to war in iraq and afghanistan under president bush, but we didn't pay for that war. those wars will cost us between three and $6 trillion. my republican colleagues tell us my god we've got to cut social security medicaid medicare education, needs of the state because of a large dataset. what this amendment does is use his budget imagery to add another $38 billion to the deficit. senator graham wants our money that is a fair point of view. let's argue it out. but don't go through the process of budget gimmickry add more money to the deficit without a serious debate that we need. i

term of the obama administration when they were getting some good advice from hillary clinton, leon panettabob gates, they were pretty good at imposing tough sanctions on iran. they were squeezing iran. they were gaining benefit from iran from those sanctions. they were getting themselves in a position to negotiate a good deal. but what's happened since then? not only have those people left, but i have talked to people inside the negotiating process who will say they reach an impasse and then there

a lot of programs are affected but none more than the military and i asked leon panetta in september, 2011, if you pull the sequestration trigger as a nation, would it be like shooting yourself in the foot? he said no, it would be like shooting yourself in the head. i've never seen more threats to our nation more safe havens, more terrorist organizations with more capability, more weapons, more desire to hit the homeland than i do now for this amendment at least -- so this amendment is at least a step to try to stop that. mr. enzi: opposition? mr. sanders: this country went to war in iraq and afghanistan under president bush. but we didn't pay for those wars. those wars will end up costing us between $3 trillion and $6 trillion. my republican colleagues tell us,my god, we've got to cut social security, medicare, medicaid education. the needs of the sick. because of the large deficit. and what this amendment does is use -- is use budget gimmickry to add another $38 billion to the deficit. if senator graham wants more money for the military that's a fair point of view. let's argue it ou

bob gates, leon panetta, kathleen sebelius, they'll begin cabinet sectors in the which is to the people who run the tech operations and the general councils and so forth in all departments and this is what the e-mail account, here's how you do it. very standard. when secretary kerry took over right he deals with a lot of sensitive things but he's got a normal state department account as far as we know. it is pretty amazing hillary clinton in a premeditated way decide at the time i'm going to take many nails out of the public domain. that she seems to decide you elaborate which of the e-mails were on government related matters, which is a more private and just deleted apparently private ones which again is so outstanding. they want to just give over the government wants and said i felt the pride once but there's a lawsuit. there's a lawsuit where someone may have to go to the prevalence to make sure they really are private. she seems to try to delete them. >> host: linking this to politics, trey gowdy he says he has no interest in pursuing this well into 2016 to the after election but he

the consequences of these cuts are real, concrete and immediate as former secretary of dweans leon panetta explained these cuts in defense spending have put us on the path to the smallest army since before world war ii the smallest navy since world war i and the smallest air force ever. let's look more closely at each service. our army has shrunk by nearly 100,000 troops. the army has lost 13 combat brigades and only a third of the remaining brigades are fully ready to meet america's threats. further, investments in modernization have fallen by 25%. if we continue on the current path the army will lose another 70,000 soldiers and every modernization program designed to preserve the army's technological advantage will be eviscerated. the navy meanwhile has had to cancel five ship deployments and significantly delay the deployment of the carrier strike group. the navy's mission requires it keep three carrier strike groups and amphibious groups prepared to respond to a crisis within 30 days but the navy can only fulfill a third of its mission because of cuts to maintenance and training. simil

many top level officials were never interviewed so we plan to interview former chief of staff leon panetta. we plan to ask questions of national security dwriesor susan wright and in other top officials. we're in the process of interviewing dropmatic security officers who were on the ground in libya for months before the attack and were -- we're even talking to survive ayers of the attack. many of these people have never been interviewed before. we're not doing that, again all out in the public eye because some of what they're sharing with us is classified. much is not clasped but eventually we'll bring those facts forth in a comprehensive report. i'm encouraged, we're getting access to new witnesses and we've obtained over 15,000 pages of documents that were never given to other committees in the past. now, i'm sure you're wondering about the issue of the last couple of weeks and that's the email issue. now, the email issue was uncovered by the select committee. and as i said in the weekly republican address this past week, emails regarding state department business, even if they were run

recent predecessors -- some of the most honorable public servants i have ever worked for; bob gates leon panetta i see bill cohen here as well mr. secretary -- all of them have blessed us with a remarkable inheritance a more secure country a stronger institution and the world's greatest military. and we owe the same to those who come after us. i will remember that on each of the 686 days between now and the end of president obama's term in office. just as i wake up every day committed to putting in a day of service worthy of our extraordinary men and women in uniform. we have some of our amazing soldiers sailors, airmen marines and coast guardsmen here today. you, you represent the finest fighting force or the world has ever known and a deep line of warriors who have fought in lexington and concord in gettysburg and midway in fallujah and helmand. in the years ahead your country will call on you to continue that tradition. perhaps sending you into harm's way. my greatest obligation will be to help the commander in chief make those decisions with wisdom and care to get you what you need to fight

and my predecessors, some of the most honorable soldiers i have ever worked for -- bob gates, leon panetta, chuck hagel -- all of them have blessed us with a remarkable inheritance. a more secure country, a more secure institution, and the world's greatest military. and we over the same -- we we owe the same for those who come after us. i will remember that until the end of present obama's second term in office. making each day worthy of our extraordinary men and women in uniform. we have some of our amazing soldiers sailors, airmen marines, and coast guardsmen here today. you -- you represent the finest fighting force the world has ever known and a deep line of warriors who have fought in lexington and concord, gettysburg and midway, falluja and helmand -- in the years ahead, your country will calling you to continue that tradition possibly sending you into harms way. my greatest obligation will be to help the commander-in-chief make those decisions with wisdom and care, to get you what you mean to fight and win -- what you need to fight and win and ensure the welfare and dignity of you a