so it wasn't that tet demoralized the united states, tet just demoralized lyndon johnson. and it wasn't that johnson lost middle america, middle america lost the president. and that's why tet was sacrificed. it wasn't just the press, it was mainly lyndon johnson. he gave up on himself. so the lessons, i guess, from tet that apply to today are things like don't give the enemy credit for having a better plan than they are. sometimes you'll see people today talk about terrorists like they're some kind of geniuses, long-term planners with this sophisticated plan that we can't understand, and everything they do is part of this unfolding of history. well, maybe they're just making mistakes. i'll tell you, i don't think that osama bin laden thought that ten years after 9/11 he'd be holed up in some cave somewhere, you know, wondering when a hellfire missile was going to come down on his head. i don't think that was part of the plan. i think he thought he'd be the head of saudi arabia right now. you know, that was the plan, not what's going on right now. so, you know, don't give 'e

when i describe in this book how lyndon johnson tries to get the nomination after all, that really happened. he was set to go to chicago, give a fire breathing speech, he had operatives there. >> charlie: he had john conley there. >> marvin watson, the post master general and his chief political henchman was there. i read the memoir that richard holbrook worked on. clifford is talking about his growing conviction that johnson would have preferred nixon to humphrey because he thought that nixon was closer to him on vietnam and humphrey would turn away from him. so all these things that i use -- >> charlie: we have at the same time all of these conversations now about lyndon johnson agonizing over vietnam not knowing his principal, talking to senator russell, his great friend and mentor, i can't get out of this. >> this is the fascination about this man. you can look at those 1964 tapes or listen to them and read them and realize even as he was escalating, he knew. >> charlie: he knew all of the vulnerabilities. >> this is why you go back to his psycho drama is he had this inbread -- bred fea

he served in the white house under lyndon johnson and jimmy carter and was appointed as secretary of state. he helped form the l.a. police department after the rodney king beating, and there was the al gore case that decided the 2000 election. he was joining us back on this program back in 2006, and there was much debate at the time about the lack of diplomacy around the world and how that impacted u.s. foreign policy. at the time, the u.s. was mired in two wars, and as it would have it, the u.s. is engaged in another muslim country. before we go into the conversation of diplomacy, i begin by noting one of his well-worn trademarks, a pin- striped suit. i went up and step up my game, got me a nice pin-striped suit, because i knew you would have to do it. i do not care what george shultz says. all right. seriously though, i wanted to have you on, because as i was saying before we went on the air, you have such a wealth of information, a wealth of knowledge to share about diplomacy, and i wanted to have you on because that seems to be a word that has been forgotten in washington these d

talk about inflation and corruption and crime and the true reading cities nobody nobody you know lyndon johnson or harvey back half and near the seventies you know that even the basis of art entire. class in the united states. no quite the contrary if you look at the graph of thomas soul has been this quite carefully if you look at the graphs the growth in the middle class stops with the establishment of the great society and johnson it was going for magically through the one nine hundred fifty s. and one nine hundred sixty s. and it's holt's and declines into the one nine hundred seventy s. eighty's and ninety's look why i realize it came with the original b.s. was reaganomics but l.b.j. was worley's it was not the eighty's. no l.b.j. is ok sixty three through sixty eight great and you see them bolting and declining and they suddenly decline and the richard nixon and economy declines and hovan economy but you know i wish that. each one of those three decades you had more than three point two percent g.d.p. growth the the the best of the entire century not in real terms not in real terms in the

raise the taxes the government would resolve that problem that's what happened now to fast the lyndon johnson cup poverty in this country and a half in four years when the great society you raised actually didn't have to raise taxes the tax rate at that time was seventy four percent he was taxing millionaires and billionaires and he put into place a bunch of anti-poverty programs welfare programs and it worked that it created a higher you know threatens our response or it is an entirely different demographic and the a different set of standards here so again i feel as if you're deliberately attempting to mislead your audience and it's just not right. i don't get it you san fran to mislead the audience the fact of the matter is when when reagan cut taxes we started going into debt and the middle class went into collapse when. there was that you're saying if we raise taxes we would get rid of poverty and all of these social ills i am actually yes saying that in our heart i'm saying if you look at european nations and i encourage you to check out the website the quality trust or org www dot u.k.

bush and reality this situation dates back to over a generation lyndon johnson and frankly both parties are culpable we're running a federal deficit of one point five trillion a national debt nearing fifteen trillion everybody knows we need to cut back but nobody wants to step forward to make a difficult cuts we've that said if america wants to remain the world's economic leader it must draw a line in the sand right now and that's what we're saying with scott walker in wisconsin and case i can ohio ok steve if i go to you a lot of people would say a skeptic would say is that the banks can be bailed out wall street can be bailed out. big pharma big big everything can be you know protected but when it comes to the middle class who protects them. and that's exactly right peter you know we have we have people in employee unions making thirty forty fifty thousand dollars a year their wages essentially if you look at it have not gone up in thirty to forty years the people of the right of the richest one percent the c.e.o.'s their income has gone a share of the pool has gone from sixty to one

one of my friends was an advisor to lyndon johnson.'s just been in the background for a long time. it was a good opportunity to write about it. >> can you tell us what your next project might be? >> i'm looking at a variety of things. something on the 1862

so for instance i couldn't make george mcgovern beat richard nixon or barry goldwater beat lyndon johnson, he says there's no soviet domination in eastern europe, he's given a chance to correct himself. no, i meant it. cost him a week. that election was decided by a sfu thousand votes in a few states. not the popular vote. now he's president. instead of jimmy carter. does the shah of iran fall a year later? his national security adviser who i interviewed said we never would have let him fall because the ayatollah comes to power. there's no hostage crisis. there's dozens of things big and small all changed by the merest little twist of fate. and that's the lesson of the book i think. >> how long did it take you i guess from conception to actually puttinged words on paper. because this had to be something you were thinking about for a long time. >> that's exactly right. from the idea of actually doing the book and persuading the publisher to write it maybe 15 months. from thinking about this to writing a book, 15 years. >> yeah, wow. >> and i've got to pick up the pace. >> exactly. just loo

he recommended some books and i read about lyndon johnson and mike mansfield and howard baker. and a different leadership styles. people ask which one i chose? they are shocked when i said i actually chose mike mansfield. i did not like the aggressive in your face tactics of lyndon johnson and it looked to me like mike mansfield got more with sugar and by laissez faire than lyndon johnson did by beating them over the head like he did with hubert humphrey. it is great to be here with richard again and john testified. i felt like we had not done enough on the continuity of government issue. john was able to give expert testimony and janet i look forward to having the media wrapup. she covered me good, bad and of what was on the mountaintop and when i crawled back up the second time. i am delighted to be here. his senate reform and oxymoron? oxy-moron. or is it oxymoron like? ic? the senate is what it is and it is good. what i make changes? yes. >> and did i make changes, yes. how was on the floor of the senate and experiencing a real time lashing from senator byrd was accusing me

lyndon johnson tried to have a great society and ended up with a culture of entitlement now we have that for the same reason. we give something and expect nothing in return. we cannot continue to do that and it is not good to do that. stop the nation building and what our forces get back to do what they do very well which is destroy the enemy. that is why i call it "the wrong war" i am perfectly willing to take any questions you may have. [applause] >> hello mr. west i am at a researcher from the dc area, what needs to happen before the afghan government can say we can take it from here? >> we have to tell them because if we leave it up to them, they will never tell you to go home. why the one to tell somebody who is the golden goose to stop laying the eggs? it is possible to say stop moving forward instead of allowing them to control the pace. i believe we get to the point* we will do that because the troops get it they like it the morale is high a but the notion of just building stuff all the time, they now believe that is the solution. i think we cannot wait for them to tell us. >> i

so this is what we're hearing from lyndon johnson. they're still considering there. ey've decided to make no changes at this point so right now service is operating at normal. we're hearing the latest from lindhen johnson. we just got him on the phone. thank you for joining us. >> hi, frances. we thought we'd have a decision a little earlier. but all the key indicators, it's tough to look and determine because it's an unprecedented decision we would make to shut down service between 7:00 and 9 a.m. as you said between daly city and west oakland bart station. basically because we have a lot of underground stations, the trans bay tube, they're underwater and the power of that wave could get inside the stations, could get inside the trans bay tube. we have a thousand volts of d.c. electricity. water, electric they don't mix. we want everybody to be safe. we value safety. these the top priority. >> good morning. it's eric

for the fourth time we've had less than a hundred murders in atlanta since lyndon johnson. we're giving our young people alternative and spending more money hiring police. this year we hired 250 police. the bottom line is it's consistent with the overall message. if you let crime get out of control during tough economic time, when things change, business won't come there because of the damage that they saw in the last one, two, three and four years. so this notion of making critical investments so that you can have a future is consistent with the message that the mayors have shared today. >> it's not only about what the police do, of course. the flip side is people go away. if you can't do the crime you can't do the time. limited ability to read or write, limited education, limited skills, bad friends, tough housing, now with a criminal record. that person's in worse shape. so then the question is who is going to hire them. now we just passed a law, we're in the midst of lasting legislation in philadelphia that takes the question about have you ever been convicted off of th

as the story goes, then president lyndon baines johnson assembled his team into the cabinet room of the white house, and he characteristically and loudly yelled out down the table, he said, moyers, who was the press secretary, why don't you start the meeting with a prayer. bill moyers began to pray down at the other end, and lbj belt out again, said, we cannot hear you down at the end of the room. as the story goes, moyers said, with all due respect sir, it was not you i was talking to. that is a great story about remembering where we get our help from, where we look to from our guidance and leisure. i want to thank the faith and freedom coalition for having their 11th annual gathering. it is very important. i want to thank chuck and the leadership of this or a position -- of this organization. we have a lot of challenges in this country at this moment and in this intersection. i am reminded of another time when our country faced similar challenges. we had a brutal and difficult election but ronald reagan won the presidency. [applause] the country had almost seemingly insurmountable eco

lyndon johnson tried to have the great society, and it ended up with a culture of entitlement. we now have a culture of entitlement in afghanistan for the same reason. we give something, we expect nothing in return. we can't continue to do that. and i don't think it's good for a country to do it. and lastly, reduce the taliban. stop the nation building and let our forces get back to doing what they do very well, and that is destroying the enemy. so that's why i call it the wrong war. that's all i have to say, and i'm perfectly willing to take any questions that you might have. thank you. [applause] >> hello, mr. west. my name is andy, i'm a researcher in the d.c. metro area. my question for you is, what will need to happen before the afghan government is able to say to the americans, we can take it from here? >> we have to tell them. because if we leave it up to them, andy, they're never going to tell you to go home. why do you want to tell somebody who's the golden imoos to stop -- goose to stop laying the eggs? so it's us who have to say to the afghans, you have to start step

i happened to be watching the news when johnson, lyndon baines johnson, was president, and he made the announcement that the social security funds coming in would be folded into the general fund. and every dollar that has come in since then has been spent on something else. that was 40 years ago. so, everybody who has been in the house or senate and has anything to do with any of vote that left the money that way and let it all go, is now responsible -- as a matter of fact, i feel those retirees for fiduciary irresponsibility and it just makes my skin crawl. thank guest: regardless of it even if we have not touched it, the demographics have turned around so much, we were eventually on a collision course with itself. i am a big fan of social security. we have to be realistic in what we can do with all retirement funds. be it social security or pensions. we have to take a look at the economic reality of the time. facts are facts. the math doesn't work. host: good morning, bob. caller: i am glad you are somebody who wants to take a long view of these things. let's take a long tube backwar

as the story goes, then president lyndon baines johnson assembled his team into the cabinet room of the white house, and he characteristically and loudly yelled out down the table, he said, moyers, who was the press secretary, why don't yo start the meeting with a prayer. bill moyers began to pray down at the other end, and lbj belt out again, said, we cannot hear you down at the end of the room. as the story goes, moyers said, with all due respect sir, itas not you i was talking to. that is a great story about remembering where we get our help from, where we look to from our guidance and leisure. i want to thank the faith and freedom coalition for having their 11th annual gathering. it is very important. i want to thank chuck and the leadership of this or a position -- of this organization. we have a lot of challenges in this country at this moment and in this intersection. i am reminded of another time when our country faced similar challenges. we had a brutal and difficult election but ronald reagan won the presidency. [applause] the country had almost seemingly insurmountable econom

host: it began in 1967 as part of lyndon johnson's great society program and one component was the public broadcasting act. caller: right, but still, it came about of the college's because i believe asu here had started part of that with their own programming. that is how parts of it became public. regarding the deal on gov. christie turning down the internet gaming deal, they were born to charge the people 23% more for taxes and everything then if they went to the casino. yes, i believe in governor christie. he did the right thing. he was protecting his people from getting them to increase taxes. right now, we do not need to have an increase in taxes. in fact, we need to start cutting and cutting deeply. everybody is hurting. , ourt we the second nation country in the glow that has higher taxes? we are at what, 38% for taxing of people? i mean, that is almost half of what you make. what is the point in even doing anything when you have to give over half of it back? host: i do not have the numbers in front of me, but you can certainly look at a number of european countries -- sweden, denm

name of billy estes who claimed in association with the then vice president of the united states lyndon johnson, and of course was that connection that drew the public interest. in september, 1962, there was a today during a broadcast on radio and television devoted solely to the motions for the continuance of the trial and the motion to prohibit broadcasting of the trial. it was as described by the supreme court not a scene of judicial serenity. 12 cameramen were in the courtroom, cables and wires sneaked across the floor, there were microphones across the courtroom. well, the motion was granted. de turenne for the trial in september was dismissed and that was the end of the proceedings and essentially the end of the broadcasting. the trial took place about a month later in october 22, 1962. the scene was considerably altered. this time, the boat had been constructed of the rear of the courtroom and painted to blend in with the courtroom paneling and amateur actor allowed the lines of a tv camera, an unrestricted view of the courtroom. but there was no life telecasting except for the opening s

i remember lyndon johnson started the war on poverty, one of the greatest educational programs we have had. i listen to them. every once in awhile i hear some of his stuff that is wrong because i remembered. host: rea hederman, is the heritage foundation against jobs? guest: absolutely not. we looked at what is the best way to create jobs in the economy. if you look at our website, we lay out a pro-jobs strategy. when need to have a strong, vibrant economy. it would apply to all americans. take a look where we are today, compared to 30 years ago, in how many people have computers and personal entertainment devices. this is a country doing very well. we need to focus on how to continue to improve things not just for ourselves but our children and grandchildren. host: john in rochester, new hampshire, you are on the "washington journal." caller: my comment is, with the declining numbers of unemployment, what are the actual accuracy of the numbers with people actually getting jobs, and unemployment, underemployment i should say. what are the prospects to increase the educational programs

after a string of very unsuccessful presidents, which had jfk killed, lyndon johnson did not seek it will second term because of vietnam. nixon resigned under watergate. ford made it three years. carter had won term. and here he is cracking jokes in the face of death. and what that did was allowed him and allowed the country to separate the man from his politics. it formed this bond that, although his approval ratings would dip, like every president, he had his troubles. but he had a bond with the american public that allowed them and allowed him to sustain a lot problems later and made him a mythic figure. a very astute man told me a few months before he died that this is the day that made reagan a mythic figure. i think that is important. especially these one-liners. >> it is important that the white house put those lines out. they knew it was important to get that kind of detail out. natalie to reassure the public, but to humanize the situation. >> -- not only to reassure the public, but to humanize the situation. >> i was 6 years old, leaving in longmeadow, mass.. they probably c

because i don't think the constitution -- as a matter of fact, frank lynn delano roosevelt and lyndon johnsonidn't think the federal constitution gave anything in terms of the constitution for the education. one of our biggest difficulties in the future is do we have an educated, competitive workforce? education is lower at every level than it was when we first started the federal role in education. so i would put forward that we've not done a good job. not that our intentions are bad or that we don't have good intentions, but what we have done hadn't worked. so let's put it in the hands of the local school boards and the states about how we educate our kids. for the same amount of dollars, we'll get a whole lot more value. host: the senator is referencing a new g.a.o. report. there was stories in the papers yesterday. more stories today. the senator requested the report from the g.a.o. looking at overlapping and duplicate initiatives. 100 different surface transportation programs, etc. they were linking it and we're linking it to our website. the lead on this report will be our guest monday.

what was really driving that case was lyndon johnson connection. and there probably are some other types, but i think there are at least those four types in the dynamics differ a bit with each. >> let me ask you the following. maybe you've answered in your last comment. the u.s. adjudge treat all of those cases in the same manner where do you have different categories? >> well, i think these are the categories in the way you would do it them would be quite different because of the issues he would confront me be different. you have a different dynamic in a case that's going to be tried in a jury and as i mentioned in the presentation, the ninth circuit rule or the ninth circuit proposal would allow broadcasts and nonjury civil trails, but not criminal trials and not jury trials. you have problems of management in a jury trial that don't exist in a civil trial and in a non-jury trial. that is one jury distinction. >> i know that you probably take judge jones definition that they know a high visibility case than they need one, but it seems like what w

we had jfk was killed, lyndon johnson didn't seek a full second term because to get on, richard nixon resigned over watergate, jerry ford made three years, carter underlays come here we turned a former actor, 69 years led the inauguration that is to lead the country and carry his shot on the 70 of the day in office, the last four presidents have been shot all dhaka and here he is cracking jokes in the face of death. and what that did was it allowed the country to separate the man from his politics, and it formed this bond though his approval ratings what did and of course like every president he had his troubles but i do think it to build a bond with the american public that allowed them and allowed him to sustain a lot of problems leader and kind of also made him a mythical figure. david, the late political columnist in "the washington post," told me in an interview four months before he died this is the date made reagan a mythical figure. and i think it's important especially the one liners. >> i think it's important that the white house put those lines out. >> the media adviser to

come let us reason together, lyndon johnson said, that's what we need to do. we face partisan opposition to any compromise on spending levels. some members' willingness to shut down the government unless they get their way on divisive social issues, even though the republican pledge to america promised to, and i quote, end the practice of packaging unpopular bills with must-pass legislation to circumvent the will of the american people. in fact, mitch daniels, governor of indiana said they ought to be considered separately. he is right. madam speaker, the perfectionist caucus, unfortunately, seems to be alive and well. it's just has a new name, just listen to its own words, one republican member said this, if we can't defund health care reform in the spending bill, then we have just got to dig in. in other words, shut down government if you can't repeal the health care bill. is that an item for substantial substantive debate? it is. but should we shut down the government while that debate is occurring? i say no. another said, quote, i think we have to have a f

you won't remember that, but you recommended books, and i read, you know, about lyndon johnson and other leadership styles, and everybody asked what i chose. they are shocked when i say i chose mansfeld because i didn't like the in your face tactics of johnson, and if you go back and study the numbers, he got more done by laissez faire than johnson did by beating them over the head. it's great to be here with richard. testified like we have not done enough. i still feel like we have not done enough on the continue newty of the government issue. jon gave expert testimony, and janet wraps up as always. she covered me good, bad, and ugly on the mountain top and again the second time. i'm delighted to be here. is senate reform an oxymoron? notice how i said that. some say oxymori ontic. did i try to make changes? yes. i was lectured on the floor of the senate one time a tom lashing about senator byrd from west virginia accusing me of trying to make the senate a minihouse. he drew on the fact i had been on the rules committee in the house and i wanted the senate majority leader, which i was a

name of billy estes who claimed in association with the then vice president of the united states lyndon johnson, and of course was that connection that drew the public interest. in september, 1962, there was a today during a broadcast on radio and television devoted solely to the motions for the continuance of the trial and the motion to prohibit broadcasting of the trial. it was as described by the supreme court not a scene of judicial serenity. 12 cameramen were in the courtroom, cables and wires sneaked across the floor, there were microphones across the courtroom. well, the motion was granted. de turenne for the trial in september was dismissed and that was the end of the proceedings and essentially the end of the broadcasting. the trial took place about a month later in october 22, 1962. the scene was considerably altered. this time, the boat had been constructed of the rear of the courtroom and painted to blend in with the courtroom paneling and amateur actor allowed the lines of a tv camera, an unrestricted view of the courtroom. but there was no life telecasting except for the opening s

what was really driving that case was lyndon johnson connection. and there probably are some other types, but i think there are at least those four types in the dynamics differ a bit with each. >> let me ask you the following. maybe you've answered in your last comment. the u.s. adjudge treat all of those cases in the same manner where do you have different categories? >> well, i think these are the categories in the way you would do it them would be quite different because of the issues he would confront me be different. you have a different dynamic in a case that's going to be tried in a jury and as i mentioned in the presentation, the ninth circuit rule or the ninth circuit proposal would allow broadcasts and nonjury civil trails, but not criminal trials and not jury trials. you have problems of management in a jury trial that don't exist in a civil trial and in a non-jury trial. that is one jury distinction. >> i know that you probably take judge jones definition that they know a high visibility case than they need one, but it seems like what w

became governor of tennessee about 30 years ago, a friend gave me a book written by george reedy, lyndon johnson's press secretary, it was called "the twilight of the president." and in that book i found a definition that i used as governor because it was such a good definition of what an executive in public life is to do, he said that the job of the president is number one, to see an urgent need. number two, to develop a strategy to meet the need. and, number three, to persuade at least half the people that he's right. see an urgent need, develop a strategy to meet the need and persuade half the people to prove that he's right. 40 cents out of every dollar that we spend is borrowed. $2.2 trillion coming i in $3.7 trillion coming out. 40 top economists saying it is the most urgent need facing our country. the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff saying it's our biggest national security threat, the debt. as senator thune said, debt costs job. the economists tell us that debt at this level costs us about a million jobs a year. let me read what the president's own debt commission had to say about t

johnson, the wife of lyndon baines johnson, who was so much involved in the beautification of texas, her daughter, lucy baynes johnson, her other daughter, linda robb johnson, and one who spoke about she would not see the constitution declined or diminished and that she believed that even though it did not include her when it started that this constitution means we the people, that's what this means. ann richards, the former governor, late governor of texas. mayor kathy whit meier, ruby mosley who has been such a leader and pioneer and changer. willie bell boone. christy adair,ester williams a great political earlier actist, irma of irma's fabulous mexican restaurants, a businesswoman who with her children by her side opened one of the famous restaurants in houston. representative alvarado, representative hernandez, commissioner sylvia garcia, could be sillmen jones, the late dorothy hubbard, mayor parker, small businesswomen, the late nancy berkman, who was so pivotal in working on the mickey leland kibbutz program, joyce scheckter, a premier advocator of policies, the woman -- wome

i represent a district that was once held by lyndon johnson. houston end of my district in the suburbs i represent many johnson space center employees and contractors. i know in our reauthorization we restored a lot of funding for human spaceflight, in spite of this administration's team to kill that and, i guess, as you present this budget, and as i go back home to my district, they will want to know, what is their future? and so i guess what i'm asking you, what am i to tell them when they ask me about contracts related to human spaceflight, about the future of human spaceflight program? i know you're, these are some of your dearest friends. but what am i to tell my constituents who are part of the johnson space center? >> congressman, you should tell them that the future of human spaceflight is bright and robust and that we need their help in rapidly developing new systems so that we can go explore. this nation has not ventured beyond the moon with humans. we've been saying we were going to do it forever. i get chastised wanting to go to, ma

as the story goes, then president lyndon baines johnson assembled his team into the cabinet room of the white house, and he characteristically and loudly yelled out down the table, he said, moyers, who was the press secretary, why don't you start the meeting with a prayer. bill moyers began to pray down at the other end, and lbj belt out again, said, we cannot hear you down at the end of the room. as the story goes, moyers said, with all due respect sir, it was not you i was talking to. that is a great story about remembering where we get our help from, where we look to from our guidance and leisure. i want to thank the faith and freedom coalition for having their 11th annual gathering. it is very important. i want to thank chuck and the leadership of this or a position -- of this organization. we have a lot of challenges in this country at this moment and in this intersection. i am reminded of another time when our country faced similar challenges. we had a brutal and difficult election but ronald reagan won the presidency. [applause] the country had almost seemingly insurmountable eco

as the story goes, then president lyndon baines johnson assembled his team into the cabinet room of the white house, and he characteristically and loudly yelled out down the table, he said, moyers, who was the press secretary, why don't you start the meeting with a prayer. bill moyers began to pray down at the other end, and lbj belt out again, said, we cannot hear you down at the end of the room. as the story goes, moyers said, with all due respect sir, it was not you i was talking to. that is a great story about remembering where we get our help from, where we look to from our guidance and leisure. i want to thank the faith and freedom coalition for having their 11th annual gathering. it is very important. i want to thank chuck and the leadership of this or a position -- of this organization. we have a lot of challenges in this country at this moment and in this intersection. i am reminded of another time when our country faced similar challenges. we had a brutal and difficult election but ronald reagan won the presidency. [applause] the country had almost seemingly insurmountable eco

swindler who claimed an association with new then price -- vice-president of the united states, lyndon b. johnsonit was of course, that connection, that drew the public's interest. in september of 1962, there was a two-hearing broadcast live on radio and television devoted solely to his own ship -- motion for continuance of the child and made a motion to prohibit broadcasting of the trial. it was as described by the supreme court, not a scene of judicial serenity. cameramen were in the court room. cables and wires snaked across the floor. wires throughout the court room. as this motion was granted, the canary that was drawn into the trial in december was dismissed, and that was the end of the proceedings and essentially the end of the broadcasting. the trial took place about a month later, october of 1962. the scene was considerably altered. this time, they both had been constructed at the rear of the court room and painted to blended with the court room paneling. an aperture allowed the lens of a tv camera, an unrestricted view of the court room. but there was no live telecasting except for the