here's the question i have for you, senator manchin.d consistently for a border barrier. many of your democratic colleagues, nancy pelosi in particular, don't want anything to do with that. what do you know the that they don't see about a border barrier? >> the only thing i know is that i had 800,000 people that were furloughed, were not getting paid. i had 12,000 in west virginia -- john: but why, why is a border barrier acceptable to you but it's not acceptable to so many of your democrats? why to you see -- >> i can't speak -- john: why do you see value in a border -- >> i've talked to the custom border patrol people, and these are the progressals that i rely on. they've showed me and told me what needs to be done. we already have 600-plus miles -- john: so why is that lost on all of your colleagues? >> because now it seems like the border's going to protect us with 700 miles of wall or fencing, whatever, i'll call it a secured structure the, is downing to be the catch-all. that's not the case. we can stop -- most of our ports of ent

>> jason: first of all, i think joe manchin is an honest broker.nk he wants an honest solution. i hear but he is saying, he is willing to build the ball. there is not something immoral about it. he just wants to trade for something. >> melissa: what's wrong with this? if you brought that back out? >> jason: in one word, its amnesty. there's a lot you like it there as conservatives. i won't get everything i want, but it does provide some perverse incentives to come here illegally. and we need to stop those incentives to come here illegally. you can't reward millions of people. remember, this is above and beyond the daca people that the president has said "we are willing to do with that." but offer others here illegally essentially amnesty is a nonstarter for republicans. >> harris: if you will remember, it's the republicans who block the president on that the first time. they had the 4-pronged look, labrador and mix alley, they looked at what the presents that he wanted. he was willing to give, as you said, willing to give them what looked like amne

joe manchin also won his reelection. he joins me now., thank you so much for being here. >> thank you so much, katy. happy new year to you. >> where dua line yourseo you a today, the 5.6 billion that he wants for a border wall, or the democrats who say no? >> from the time i spoke to the president, i've gone clear back to the 2013 comprehensive immigration bill we did. we gave him more than he ever asked for. we supported $40 million of border security. when you talk about a wall, the op ttics of a wall is not what we're talking about. we're talking about some type of secured barrier. this secured barrier, if you talk to the cbb, they say that's some sort of high gate fencing type thing and it's more protective if you can see through it, so i know these optics are going back and forth. we need a secure border but it takes more than just a barrier to secure the border. we need the big x-ray machines to bring all the cargo in so we can check them, distribution mail coming into our country, more border agents which our 2013 bill had every b

let's bring in west virginia senator joe manchin.ave you on the program this morning. thanks for being here. >> good morning, sandra. good to be with you. >> sandra: what were your expectations for the moment tonight. >> i'm anxiously awaiting for what he has to say and how we can move forward and get out of this shutdown we are in. we have 800,000 great workers here ho are depending on a paycheck want to go back to work. i have 12,000 west virginians, sandra, on top of that we have a lot of kids going to go without food basic necessities of life. so the quicker we can get out of this the better we are. >> sandra: the president says it's a crisis, it's a national security issue. do you agree with the urgency that he is placing on this? >> here's the thing about you can argue until the cows come home but the bottom line is over the years congress has given away a lot of authority to the executive branch. so, if that's wrong, then they ought to take it back. but if the president declares an emergency, he has a right to do it. it will p

we'll hear from two moderate senators, maine republican susan collins and west virginia democrat joe manchin, on the prospect for a border funding deal. and more fallout from the mueller investigation as trump associate roger stone is indicted. charges against him outline incriminating details on how much trump campaign officials knew about wikileaks' efforts to undermine hillary clinton. we'll have plenty of announcements on all the news and look at the shutdown's economic impact in two key cities. it's all ahead on "face the nation." >> brennan: good morning and welcome to "face the nation." we begin today with the president's acting chief of staff, mick mulvaney. he joins us this morning from charlotte, north carolina. welcome to "face the >>argaret, good morning. for ha. >> brennan: is the president really py is. keep in mind, he's willing to do whatever it takes to secure the border. he does take this very seriously. this is a serious humanitarian and security crisis, and as president of the united stating he takes the security of the nation as his highest priority. he doesn't want to s

that was senator joe manchin of west virginia.e address to the nation tonight at 9:00. up, the winning streak since july 2017, more on what i am watching. check out all the charts throughout the program. this is bloomberg. ♪ alix: i am watching oil. this is the biggest rally of 2017. we were worried about 30? now we are at 50. you have saudi arabia around 7 million barrels a day. they assume there will be a cut for january. sediment was so negative. how much of the back end was technical hedging? david: we've got to worry about the global growth. we will hear from the world bank today. alix: we start to hear more tweets from the president. 49 is better than 80. david: i forgot about president trump in the price of gas. he tries to intervene when it's getting too high. alix: there are questions about iran. they have a couple of more months buying what they need to buy. countries like south korea are buying iranian oil now. they will buy now before they can't later. david: the exemptions on the sanctions were temporary. what happens

. >> reporter: joe manchin, who had supported a border barrier in the past, says the next three weeks could be an immigration turning point. >> i think democrats want to look at basically the whole holistic approach, immigration reform, pathways forward to some people. >> reporter: roy blunt believes the president would prefer to go around congress and build the wall on his own, rather than risk another unpopular shutdown. >> after 35 days of this, the president also thinks shutdowns are not great politics and bad government. >> reporter: the conference committee is expected to begin working right away. some of the meetings will take place behind closed doors, out of the public eye, which could have a major impact on negotiations. in washington, i'm garrett tenney, fox news. lauren: the dow rallied 183 points on friday, helped by the reopening of the government and this week three of the four largest public companies in the world will report quarterly results. investors watching apple, amazon and microsoft earnings, plus many other economic events. katina group president gary smith jo

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why did joe manchin win in west virginia? donald trump won west virginia by 43 points. i think joe manchin won west virginia partly because people knew him but because he made the campaign about his opponent's effort to tank preexisting conditions and affordable care act. a state that might be one of the most pro trump and anti-president obama states is also a state deeply loyal to obamacare and expanding healthcare coverage. why did utah, nebraska and idaho by referendum embrace medicaid expansion, a obamacare, it's because there is a recognized need. there are some differences on the democratic side, but, again, i think the differences between dems compared with the republican orthodoxy now is so stark that the differences on the dem side will seem minor by comparison. >> opioid addiction is an issue that hits close to home in the state that you and i love and have lived in. you've spent a lot of time in the coal fields and elsewhere. what is your sign wave of what's happening to opioid addiction in virginia? >> first on christmas reading list if you haven't read beth

west virginia senator joe manchin joining me next. joe manchin joining me next. operator, i'd like to make first name "bob,"lease. last name is "wehadababyit'saboy." hello? collect call for, mr. bob wehadababyitsaboy. sorry, wrong number. who was that, dear? bob. they had a baby... it's a boy. (smiling) ahhh. if you like saving money, call geico. a fifteen minute call could save you 15% or more on car insurance. ...last name is "wehadababyit'saboy 8lbs3ozmother'sdoingfine." >>> speaker nancy pelosi and senate democratic leader chuck schumer will be jointly responding tonight to the president on network tv. joining me now is democratic senator joe manchin who serves on the intelligence and appropriations committees, he knows a lot about government spending. and of course from west virginia. your state, first of all, is deeply affected. >> sure. >> talk to me about -- >> every state is affected. but my little state, 800,000 people, i have 18,000 federal workers who are in jeopardy of losing their paychecks. >> all have families. >> all have families. it ripples dow

chief of staff mick mulvaney and the path forward with republican senator roy blunt and senator joe manchin, the lone democrat to vote for the law measure. plus. >> i will plead not guilty to these charges. i will defeat them in court. >> john: what is the indictment of longtime from friend and advisor roger stone mean for the mueller investigation? we will ask how problematic this is for the president. then, the democrat-controlled house moves to block president trump from pulling out of nato. >> quite simply the most successful political and military alliance in world history. >> john: we will discuss the future of the u.s. role in the strategic alliance with the end stoltenberg, secretary general of the north atlantic treaty organization. it all right now on on "fox news sunday" ." hello again from washington. and the clock is reset and the battle over the border wall, federal workers will soon be returning to the job, but their paychecks could be in jeopardy once again if congress cannot strike a deal by february the 15th when the stock spending measure, does not include$5.7 m. presiden

we'll go one on one with senator joe manchin of west virginia. and then we have what this shutdown is really about. people, families who don't have an adjustment they can make. the president said he can relate, they can adjust. they can adjust. he can't relate. i want you to see who's paying the price for our politics. and this all comes to a head when the president speaks to the country about the border tomorrow night. our first closing argument of 2019 is a letter to our leader. the time is now, my friends. let's get after it. day 17 of a government shutdown that should have never happened. my new year's wish was that this congress do their damn jobs, find solutions, keep the government open. and if you have to, find a veto-proof majority. cut out the president if you think his politics are dominating instead of what the american people need. the president is addressing the country tomorrow. he's going to go to the border later this week. is his best solution going to be to declare an emergency that device the facts and maybe the law? let's tal

she was brushed back pretty severely and swiftly by congressman nadler, certainly by senator joe manchin. with respect to her comments, that we don't speak that way. it's not necessary. just this weekend, you saw the democratic leadership in the house holding way back on this notion of impeachment. they are worried, i think the freshman members coming in here saying i thought that's why were here. you're here to represent the constituents that elected you and your here to represent their interests. this president has kept us safe and secure and more prosperous. if they want to get in the way of that, then they are -- >> laura: he's not going to relent on the shutdown. >> he's not going to relent on border security. >> laura: wall or border security. >> he has had its all the same. meaning that it will be made of u.s. steel, american steel. >> laura: he has compromised. they are not to compromise. >> this is important because many people say you should see through it. customs and border patrol so you need to see through it. >> laura: i don't get it. >> they need to see what's on the other

david: senator manchin said the solution is to go bigger, to have overall immigration reform. he said that to the president, he thinks the president is listening. that thise any sense could be resolved by going bigger rather than smaller? >> there is no indication of that happening. gore is an attempt to medium-sized as was attempted in 2007 in 2013. there was a bipartisan deal negotiated in the senate between republicans and democrats that would have given president trump 25 ilion for his border wall -- 25 billion for his border wall and put daca children on the path to citizenship. the white house rejected that deal and it failed to get 60 votes in the senate. president trump missed his best opportunity to get while money from congress -- wall money from congress. david: finally, so he'll -- sahil, the president is saying this is a national emergency and he may declare a national emergency to build this without congress. he is going on nationwide tv to make that point. if that resonating on capitol hill, is there a sense there is a national emergency? do members think this i

. >> manchin mcsally menendez, murphy. >> mr. pence: please raise your ntright hand. do you solemnly swear that you will support and defend the constitution of the united states against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that you will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that you take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that anyou will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which you are opportunity enter, so help you god? >> i do. >> congratulations senator. [applause] >> thank you. [applause] [inaudible conversations] >> mr. pence: the clerk will now read the names of the seventh group. >> romny, rosen, sanders, cinema. >> mr. pence: will you please raise your right hand? do you solemnly swear that you will support and defend the constitutionpp of the united states against all enemies dforeign and domestic that you bear true faith and allegiance to the same, that you take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion, and that you will well and faithfully discharge

senator coons, senator manchin, john roberts reporting. sort of senator ben cardin out of maryland with me, and the house i combust anywhere with you. they are all saying something similar about border wall works in some places. are we moving among the democrats? is it in the positive direction? >> i think there's a negotiation to be had, and john touched on that. you have 17 lawmakers on this conference committee who come together and tried floods of common ground i still think the semantics of all, bear, whatever, will be sticking points. whether he can accept something short of that -- in other words, given the amount of money he wants and letting the experts on the border determine where and when and how to deploy that money. i think there is possible getting from eight to be in that scenario. the likelihood of another government shutdown, despite the threat over the weekend, i think is minimal. because he really was a hit. if you look at the cbo projections of the loss of roughly $3 billion, about .2% of the gdp up from the 35 day shu

we do know that joe manchin is one who did vote for it. we'll see what the final vote tally, but all republicans will be expected to support that measure going forward. now what's up next is this democratic plan to keep the government open, reopen the government up until february 8th, that also expected to fall short of 60 and as we've been saying here, what next? we don't know what's next and as these federal workers wait to hear what congress can do to reopen the government, the members themselves don't know what they can agree to or what the president would ultimately sign, brooke. >> thank you so much. >>> quick break, special coverage continues after this. s began to appear. these techs in a lab. this builder in a hardhat... ...the welders and electricians who do all of that. the diner staffed up 'cause they all needed lunch. teachers... doctors... jobs grew a bunch. what started with one job spread all around. because each job in energy creates many more in this town. energy lives here. what does help for heart fait looks like this.

one of our guests, joe manchin on the democratic side. he was the only democratic to vote for the president's proposal for $5.7 billion for a wall. he told me yesterday that if the president were to go further on protections for daca recipients, that would be a path to status or citizenship, he might get more democrats to sign on to his need for a border barrier. i asked sarah sanders about it. listen to this back and forth. >> again, i'm not going to get into negotiating immigration reform up here. that's why we have the conference and why the president has asked that this take place over these three weeks. whether or not that happening during this time or after the focus of this right now is border security. we would like to see that happen. the president would like to fix the loop holes that would prevent these things happening so we can move forward with a system that works. >> here's the other unknown, too, neil. while there's a lot of democrats in the house and senate that say, you know, i can see the need for a border barrier and j

we didn't get democrat support other than from a wonderful man, ,s you know, senator manchin who is doing the right thing for his people. he is doing the right thing for west virginia, frankly. the other bill was 52-44. that included a lot of her crane -- hurricane relief. some of them really voted for the hurricane relief. that was 52-44. but you need 60. we know both were not going to go anywhere. negotiatingh is with chuck schumer. we will see what happens. i think they just left a meeting. they just had a meeting. . they are going out to see their people. they just left. i think we did very well. the republicans held, except for two. two were not there. they were not able to be there. so there were two non-votes. even with to debian on does, they would have been very good votes for us. that is 50-47. but we need 60 votes because of the 60-vote rule. i just really want to thank the holding.ns for again come on the other one, that was the opening up your new was 52-44, but you need 60 votes. so it's a long way short. a lot of those votes were based in the fact that there was working rea

senator manchin said we have a continuing resolution for the homeland security budget. so there's money available in the homeland security budget for whatever it was previously approved. i don't think there's money for a wall. >> what feedback have you gotten from mcconnell and schumer about this idea? >> i can speak -- i'm not going to speak for leader schumer. i can tell you that we have been working with senator schumer and i think it was senator murkowski, ultimately the path forward as to how the process will work when we can open government needs to be negotiated between the two leaders. we recognize that. and we are hopeful that there will be discussions taking place between the two leaders. >> what do do you expect a vote? >> i think it's too early to make that prediction. that's up to senator mcconnell. hopefully his meetings with senator schumer. >> the president just said this. >> thank you for informing us. i love technology. >> he said, one of the ideas suggested is they open it, pay some sort of prorated down payment for the wall, which i think people woul

with joe manchin, the democratic senator from west virginia yesterday.he said was he thinks a bigger deal is easier to get done than a smaller one. if you take it beyond the wally include -- beyond the wall and include the dreamers, he said he is told the president that he thought the president was open to it. that is what joe manchin said. maybe that is what the president is referring to. libby: remember, it is hard given the fullness of the news cycle, but remember last year newschuck and cycle, but remember last year with chuck and nancy, there was a preliminary framework for a bigger immigration deal. maybe they revisited it. the big issue the president will have is with his base. his base wants the border wall. they don't necessarily want him cutting a deal on the dreamers. play out. i would agree with that a bigger deal ills smaller than getting the border wall funding. david: beyond the question of what a deal might look like, various people are saying various things, the question is who will drive the deal? we have not seen much of the republican

kennedy: joe manchin is the other one talking about this aspect there. >> they made it clear.want border security. she said she wants smart fencing speaker pelosi and her stands nobody wins when the family feuds. kennedy: unfortunately it's pretty tone deaf. >> the showdown is so stupid and i say that to someone who locked his keys in the car once a year. that's another story for another time. it turned into an intervention. there was a time when both parties would have ended this and three days. they would have given him the wall money and everybody would have gone right back to work but this has become personal. there's no mistaking it at its personal for the doma kratzer not give him what he wants. the 4 trillion-dollar bill and it's a 5 billion-dollar wall. it's so pottery and silly given that they voted for wall funding >> listen to me all they are giving him this -- kennedy: knock-knock, whose there? no wall. the panel is returning later. the dickering over the left and right over the border continues productively why we need to reform or entitlement system before we can

doug jones, joe manchin from west virginia. >> thank you for your reporting. let's get to edward lawrence in washington with the white house reaction to what's going on. >> no end in sight on this shutdown. the president going on to say if we build the wall we'll see crime come down in record numbers. the democrats are focused on a win because of the shutdown and could have already paid off the wall with the lost money. larry kudlow says the economy will rebound those losses. >> once the government reopens the resources and opportunities will come back literally the day of. but there will be a snapback immediately. that's my sense. >> senate majority leader mitch mcconnell going forward with the bills. democrats sticking to their position opening the government first, and they have not talked negotiation at all with the president. listen. >> i don't think any democratic senator is going to vote for it because of the context in which those proposals are made. he said this is going to be the bill, vote for it or vote against it. that's not a negotiation. reporte

why do joe manchin win in west virginia? donald trump one west virginia by 43 points. i think opioid west virginia partly because people knew him but also because he made the campaign about his opponents effort to tank pre-existing conditions in the affordable care act. so interesting it might be one of them most pro trump and a state that is deeply loyal to obama care and why did utah, nebraska and idaho by referendum embrace medicaid expansion? obamacare? it's because there is a recognized need. so there are some differences on the democratic side but i think the differences between dems with what the republican orthodoxy is so stark that the differences on the dems side will seem stark by comparison. >> this is an issue that really hits close to home and people are, you spent a lot of time in the coalfields. what is your idea of what is happening to opioid addiction in west virginia? >> first if you haven't read that macy, if you haven't read her book dope sick it's really a good read. even if you read dreamland and other books about the opioid crisis, it's a great

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that was democratic senator joe manchin of west virginia.e thought kirsten sinema, the democratic senator from arizona, might be in play. she's a no. when they get to the next vote in a few minutes here, this is expected to fail, the threshold here is 60 yays. they will come short of that. we expect a few republicans to vote with the democrats. we looked at lisa murkowski of alaska, susan collins of maine and cory gardner from colorado who faces a competitive re-election race in 2020. shep, one of the things here are temporal markers. these votes, once they demonstrate in the senate that nothing on a partisan basis can get 60 votes, does this get real? does it get more real? federal workers will miss their second paycheck tomorrow. we were told after the first weekend in december that things would get more real. then we said after christmas, and then after new year's and then after nancy pelosi became the speaker. at what point does this become more real? i've been told at the end of these votes, democrats and republicans will take to the fl

west virginia senator joe manchin. >> what does that mean ?her side we only know about three republicans so far who intend to support the democratic measure. lisa murcowski and susan collins. 3 1/2 hours from now two votes in the senate. one of them on the president's plan where republicans get $5.7 billion in border wall money. republicans offer temporary protections for daca recipients brought to the country illegally as kids. the democratic plan, just a three week long continuing resolution funding the government at current levels for three weeks with some money for disaster relief but no new money for a border wall. both of these bills also come with a low level of confidence that they are going to advance. >> we'll have these votes today. i'll support the president's bill. it is not a perfect bill. i want a permanent solution. a long-term fix on border security and a long-term fix on daca and tps. that's not going to happen today. but hopefully this will start the negotiations to get something done. we need to get government open. >> the

reporter: senator joe manchin said yesterday, if the president were to move further on daca and at least offer a path to status if not a path to citizenship, she'd likely get more democrats to come to his need for a border. the president has been resistant to that what's the reason ethink the president doesn't believe taka recipients should get a path to status? sarah: i'm not going to negotiate up here. that's reason they're going to conference. reporter: but why doesn't he believe that they deserve or should have a path to status? sarah: again, i'm not going to get into negotiating immigration reform up here. that's why we have the conference. that's why the president has asked that it take place over the next three weeks. whether or not that happens in this time or after, the border right now is border security, we'd like to see that happen. the president would love to deal with the overall problem of illegal immigration, fixing a number of loopholes that would prevent some of those things from happening so we can move forward with a system that ctually works and functions. congratula

democrat joe manchin of west virginia says he's "undecided" on the proposal.in the housedemocrats say they'll spend the week focused on border security.including spending money on technology to better scan cars at checkpoints for drugs.however the bill would not spend any money to build a wall between the u-s and mexico.in washington, i'm mark meredith. minus ten degrees30 to 40 degrees below zeroit is about as cold as it looks ...(grant) the northeast is reeling from a deadly blast of frigid air. at least six people are dead. tens of thousands are without power.and hundreds of airline flights cancelled.the big freeze follows a weekend blizzard that dumped several inches of snow from missouri to maine.(vicki) catherine heenan is here to show us how people are coping.catherine? (catherine) the brutal cold is affecting nearly 75=million people ... that's one in five americans. wind chill warnings are in effect for five states. and for some people, minus double-digit temperatures are just part of the job. wind, rain, sleet and snow, special delivery mail carriers have to do their job.lot

actually, one, joe manchin.emocratic proposal got six republicans including mitt romney, interestingly, so the democratic proposal actually got more votes in the senate than the republican proposal did. i don't think -- what the 30 democrats in the house are saying is let's give the president a vote on his proposal, they're not saying they are going to vote for it. i think to one they are going to vote against it. in the interest of fairness, and most of them are kind of moderate, they are saying let's show the public we are serious about opening the government and making good on what you, madam speaker, are saying which is once it's open, we will have a discussion about border security. that's all they're saying. liz: okay. but it's starting to become, i know you aren't but what am i. very high schoolish here. i am just trying to work through all of this and say that perhaps these two bills, brad, i will start with you, then richard, you can weigh in, perhaps these two bills got us to an albeit pathetic startin

senator manchin, just re-elected. nothing to worry about, but i'm hopeful the president's statement will allow us to immediately reopen the government. put west virginians back to work and start negotiating long-term immigration reform. i look forward to working with my gop and democratic colleagues to make this happen so we can end this shameful shutdown. that from a more conservative democrat. if you're chuck schumer, you can't get 60 votes. you're on the phone to joe manchin saying, you didn't exactly mean that, did you? >> the vice president, the white house chief of staff mick mull vaughney, jared kushner, they did a briefing yesterday and two things emerged from that briefing. it's very clear that the white house is trying to drive awedge between democratic leadership. first between schumer and pelosi. now trying to drive a wedge between democratic leadership and rank and file democrats. and what they told reporters was the ideas the president proposed, which was, you know, three-year stay for daca recipients an

today, democratic senator joe manchin said democrats could be willing to sign off on a deal that funds the president's barrier, if the white house offered more than a temporary solution to daca. >> that would be for dreamers and daca that was he offered to daca three years. we're saying can't those people deserve a 10 years pathway? that would really help an awful lot in order to move forward. right now, we're just caught in between. >> the white house has previously said it was not willing to give more than three years of temporary legal status to the dreamers but today senator marco rubio said if democrats are willing to fund part of a wall or barrier, they will likely be surprised how far the president is willing to go to get it. mike? >> garrett tenney, live in washington thanks a lot. fox news will have much more on "the situation" at the border tonight as fox & friends anchor brian kilmeade hosts battle at the border a town hall special in san antonio, texas or immigration and border security and brian will join me later this hour to preview the big event. democratic senator kama

manchin is talking about a path to status, maybe a path to citizenship. so far it's something the president is resisting. >> shepard: so this white house briefing that we didn't know about that was scheduled this afternoon, are we expecting to hear anything on the state of the union? what do you know about this? >> we'll hear a lot about a lot of topics. for the state of the union, we're not sure when that will happen just yet. here's what mercedes schlapp said about it earlier today. >> we know it's not tomorrow. we are -- our offices are working with nancy pelosi's offices to set a date. obviously when she first rescinded the invitation, which was the fact of saying there was a security concern or asked for a delay in the state of the union, there were no security concerns. we have a great story to tell. the president is looking forward to addressing the american people. >> the date being talked about is next tuesday. that would be february 5 though. if they're going to have it next tuesday, they better announce it soon. there's some people that believe

joining me is the democratic senator from the great state of west virginia, joe manchin. >> thank you for having me, jim. >> and first question regarding the shutdown, you said again this morning and last night that the president declaring a national emergency would be an acceptable solution to the shutdown and his desire for the border wall funding. i wonder though, as you know, it is congress' job constitutionally to approve spending including on national priorities such as this one. why isn't congress doing its job? >> well, i can't speak for all of congress, and i am willing to vote immediately and get this government back open. but, jim, if it is the only way forward to keep this absolute horrendous shutdown which affects so many west virginians and children that depend on food and the basic necessaitieses of life, and if that is what the president believes he has the right to do, it is going to be fought in courts, and mr. president, please, move on with that, and let us open the government back up, and pass the six appropriations bills that we have and a temporary extension to

if the public sentiment starts to move against them i think any bets are off and i'd also put joe manchin the moderate democrat from west virginia he just won re-election but then i'd start to look at the four immediate senators across washington d.c., the two democrats from maryland, ben carden, and then mark warner and tim kaine from virginia and the senate was in session saturday for two hours, just to come up and talk about the flight of all of the federal workers they represent in northern virginia. that's an issue. you had instances when van holland and card en have gone to the floor to reopen the government, get the senate to agree unanimously to vote immediately on a bill or even vote right there and pass the bill on the spot. those have been rejected so you could see where you might be able to get together a group of people who would get there. i talked a minute ago with senator john hoven, the republican senator from north dakota and he thought they had a shot. i asked if he thought all 53 republican senators would stick together and he said yes. here is one final point though t

blue dog, singer appear.>> joe manchin iii didn't get any of his backup that he did. he did know john tester backup now we don't have claire mccaskill, anymore after the 2018 midterms. also i believe it was to political about a meeting of top level senate republicans with mike pence where they came at him and said, we told you the shutdown was not a good idea mitch mcconnell wanted no part of it, he said the american public does not like shutdowns. and they don't. will they remember when they are voting in 2020? i'm not sure. >> i get that it is better republicans and the president but it is not good for democrats. >> no, we talked early on about the number. now suddenly 34 percent of americans are blaming congressional democrats. and they have to be careful because the numbers picking up and the number for congressional republicans is ticking down. but i'm hopeful about the copper was billed as a smart wall situation where democrats can say, we are for border security and get you paid and trump doesn't get exactly the thing that he says. but if you listen to bill ben

we'll be looking for a west virginia democrat like joe manchin to vote yes on both. talking to his sources, he also talked to our colleagues saying he's leaning that way. that would be a sign for let's move something forward even though it would not be in line with his party. that might be the response you'd expect from manchin. he's donating his salary to food banks. he is, of course, in a state that has been aligned with the president. a lot is happening. there is also a policy lunch today. i'm told it would not be a surprise if the vice president shows up. he may attend is what various sources are telling me. that's not been confirmed by the vice president's office. they're not commenting on his plans. multiple sources say not a surprise if he were to be here today before the votes. so all kinds of things. we need a flow chart to keep it all straight. but at the end of the day, will we be any closer? there doesn't appear to be an indication that there's that kind of momentum. but what these votes do is they ramp up pressure and they identify what cannot pass. and

there could be pressure somebody like joe manchin, a red state to join with mcconnell and vote against pelosi position. >> that would certainly be the case, andrea if the government was reopened at this moment. reeder schumer in the senate and speaker pelosi in the house have been able to hold their ranks together making the case internally and externally. these sort of discussions are possible and they would be okay with moderate democrats speaking in support of a package that supports dreamer protection, but you can only have those talks once the government is reopened. at this time the white house is going to see, can it pursue real negotiations on immigration if the government somehow is forced to reopen. whether it's an outside event like a tsa walkout or moderate republicans in the senate say enough of this. let's re-open the government and could there be a broad immigration package or is this positioning in politics? >> robert, what about the politics of it? >> at this point, the president has been taking the hit politically as well as republican senators, but does this now help

a spokesperson for democrat senator joe manchin says he may be a "yes" on both the democrats and proposals. on the house side, democrats are working on their own proposal that would reportedly offer up billions of dollars for border security, not for wall funding. top house republican kevin mccarthy says it's pellucid who has not been willing to negotiate. a short time ago, house speaker nancy pelosi called on the senate to pass the democrats' clean bill today and slamming them for not taking it up sooner. watch it. >> today the senate vote on a bipartisan bill to open the government. it contains the same proposal he already supported. now they won't. hopefully there is no excuse for them not to pass this legislation. >> nancy pelosi has the record for speaking the longest on the floor last year, and it was about daca. but she comes out against the president's proposal. it's only the president who is leading the shutdown. when the speakers acting at at home differently. >> harris: a new fox news poll found that 51% of it blamed president trump for the shutdown while 34% put it in the democ

. >> joe manchin has suggested that he thinks the democrats should give in to the president in orderopen the government. he has a lot of federal employees in west virginia. he's also put on the table or tried to put on the table the 2013 bill compromise, bipartisan compromise to fix the immigration system. those two things don't sound like they're getting much traction within the democratic caucus. >> yeah, look, i think senator manchin has his views. i was there during the 2013 bill, the immigration bill that passed the senate overwhelmingly. we tried to get it through the house. unfortunately, it was blocked even though there was bipartisan support for it. the problem we're seeing today is that the president is completely dug in. he's surrounded by a group of his staffers that are saying all or nothing. who are the democrats going to negotiate with? are they going to be negotiating with steven miller? are they going to be negotiating with kushner? are they going to be negotiating with pence? are they going to be negotiating with president trump? nobody really knows. the address ton

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