we go to mark crumpton, who has more on secretary esper. rk: as you and bill were just alluding to, breaking with president trump secretary mark esper said he does oppose using military forces for law enforcement in containing street protests. secretary esper did refer to the insurrection act, which would allow the president to use active-duty military and law enforcement in containing street protests. >> the option to let use active-duty forces should only be used as a matter of last resort and only in the most urgent and direct situations. we are not been one of those situations now. i do not support invoking insurrection act. mark: secretary esper making his comments at the pentagon. he added "the national guard is best suited to perform domestic support to signal authorities in the situation in support of local law enforcement." pope francis says he is deeply concerned about the social unrest in the united states. in his weekly greeting is that racism cannot be tolerated. he called the killing of george floyd tragic, and said he was pray

current secretary mark esper yesterday taking pains to say he did not support putting active duty on streets of america, he did not support invoking the insurrection act, putting distance between him and the president. but mat sis said this is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the american people, does not even attempt to try. instead he tries to divide us. we are witnessing the consequence of three years of this deliberative effort, we're witnessing the consequence of three years without mature leadership. we can unite without him, drawing on the strengths inherent in our civil society. where are we today? the entire chiefs of staff have issued comments based on the simple concept of listening, paying attention to institutionalal racism in this country, talking about bringing people together. none of them are talking about invoking the insurrection act, none of them are talking about putting active duty military force on the streets of this country. john? >> all of them in their own way sending a message. barbara starr, i appreciate that. and jeremy, the p

is not up to mark esper.ark esper doesn't like it, he can resign and vote against donald trump in the fall and may do that anyway. what he can't do, but we cannot let him do if we care about democracy is to subvert the order of the president he works for no matter who the president is. and yet, yesterday, he appeared to do exactly that. he gave a press conference in which he announced that he opposes using troops to bring order to the country. american troops in syria and afghanistan are absolutely necessary. we can't pull them out. it's a immoral. that is mark esper's position. apparently, he said this at the urging of active-duty generals at the pentagon. now, once again, it doesn't matter whether you agree with their position. this kind of behavior is a grave threat to all of us and to our constitutional system. and that system is teetering tonight. but some in washington would like to see the system collapsed completely. just send the chairman of joyce joe mike joint chiefs of staff telling him to deny th

is but who is this james miller and has mark esper responded to that public. getting so actually james miller is actually really big and the d.o.j. and his resignation actually had mark esper out responding as soon as it was published now miller served on the defense science board which is a group of retired senior officials who tackle cyber and communication technology along with weapons of mass destruction now he also won 4 times the medal for distinguished public service which is the highest award a civilian can actually get from the d o d now as far as mark esper he says that he had no idea they were going to be taking a picture rather saying that he thought he was going to be doing 2 things 1st seeing the damage to the st john's church and also talking to troops in lafayette park that's directly across the street again from the white house he also pushed back on the media saying what was reported was inaccurate take a listen national guard forces did not far rubber bullets were tear gas in the crowd as reported 2nd guardsmen were instructed to were helmet

ground than mark esper is. mark esper has a long career, getting fired by the president would probably enhance his reputation in his peer group within the military establishment at this point. so this is not a situation where the president has a lot of leverage. yes, he can replace someone, but that doesn't mean it is going to help him. >> okay, so, john, let's talk about the president's physical health. he got a physical but we don't have a completely thorough explanation for how he's doing. what do we know? >> well, we know as you discussed with jonathan reiner in the last hour that they released information that indicates that his cholesterol issues, his coronary issues are under control. but we don't know exactly what is behind that. what procedures have been done. we know that he's getting high doses of staten drugs to try to control the levels of cholesterol. we have gotten some information about height and weight and, you know, 6'3", 244 pounds, but we don't have a detailed picture that we normally get f

mark esper saying that should bea mark esper saying that should be a last resort in the current circumstancesrprise you to hear that mr esper‘s remarks have not gone down very well at the white house tonight. let's ta ke let's take you to some of the live pictures. but coming in from denver. that is denver, i think. still significant protests, as far as we know. people simply lying down the street with their hands behind their backs. as mr floyd was while under the knee of derek chauvin for nearly nine minutes with his hands cuffed behind his back. more on that to come. george floyd's name is the latest in a long list of black americans to die as a result of police brutality over many decades. clive myrie now looks at how a toxic mix of racism and bad policing, has led to the most serious racial unrest in the us, for many years. his report contains images you may find disturbing. america's original sin perpetuates. the notion of the supremacy of whiteness over blackness has enshrined in slavery. newsreel: where the negroes have come up against a determined white resistance, fighting has often

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mark esper was at the white house after he made those statements with the pentagon. he did meet with the president. the three sources are telling us, alison, that esper is expected to stay on the job for now. yesterday the press secretary after esper was at the white house, after he met with the president in the oval office, she refused to give him a vote of confidence saying simply that we will all learn at the same time if the president loses confidence in his current defense secretary. >> those key words for now stood out to me. thank you very much. how rare is it to hear a retired marine general to speak out against a sitting president? how will this affect our men and women in uniform? that's next. cancer won't wait. it won't wait for a convenient time or for hospitals to get back to normal again. that's why, at cancer treatment centers of america, we aren't waiting. we're right here, still focused on the only thing we do, providing world-class cancer care, all under one roof. because cancer isn't just what we do, it's all we do. cancer treatment centers of ameri

tell us about the working relationship the president had with both secretary of defense mark esper as well as general mark milley, both of whom he appointed. >> reporter: yes and you know, our reporting has shown that president trump really likes milley. he's really come to rely on him. he sought out his advice sometimes more so than secretary esper. secretary esper followed james meatis, there was an acting secretary in between and he took this job and has tried to find his footing here and the president according to our reporting has relied more so on the chairman of the joint chiefs who is his top military adviser, somebody the president speaks to regularly that he relies on for as i said advice on a whole range of issues. to see someone of this stature as close to the president, someone in and around the president on a regular basis come out so publicly and say that he shouldn't have done something, that this white house has defended time and again since it happened is really striking, eeamon. >> carol lee, stick around for us. we should note mark esper the secretary of defense al

yesterday on his walk with the president across lafayette square just days after defense secretary mark esper publicly split with the white house in opposing the use of active-duty troops to quell violent protests. i talked with the president about those remarks, as well as joe biden's recent suggestion that the military may need to get involved on inauguration day. watch. >> general milley con joint chiefs of staff, i don't know how much you knew that he was going to say today before he spoke. but he said he regrets having been there. he apologized about having been there on lafayette square with you for the picture. the infamous picture, as he walked to the church. >> president trump: i think it was a bit of a picture. i'll tell you, i think christians think it was a beautiful picture. >> harris: but why do you thinthink you hearing from general milley, from secretary of defense esper? and not why you think you are, but do you think it is significant? >> president trump: no, i don't think so. that's the way they feel, i think that's fine. i have good relationships with the military. i have

this as mark esper breaks publicly with him today and former president obama with hope in the face of anger. i'm erin burnett. protests are under way from coast to coast. all four officers have now been charged in the death of george floyd and they are in custody, as i speak. the officer seen kneeling on floyd's neck with second-degree murder charges. he was originally charged with third-degree murder, and second degree adds intent and the other officers aiding and abetting, second-degree murder. the state's attorney general telling reporters that winning a conviction will be tough, but he believes the law is on his side. >> we gathered all of the facts that we could. we reviewed the criminal statutes. we looked at case law. we consulted with each other and we arrived at these charges. >> i strongly believe that these developments are in the interest of justice for mr. floyd, his family, our community and our state. >> and this is the scene across the country, as i said, peaceful protesters gathering from coast to coast in cities. just moments ago what we saw, just moments ago in minn

and the president's own secretary of defense, mark esper, you talk about -- well, the protests got less violent but here he was on wednesday, speaking out about the president's decision to call in active duty military. >> the option to use active duty forces in a law enforcement role should only be used as a matter of last resport and only in the -- resort and only in the most urgent and dire of situations. we are not in one of those situations now. i do not support invoking the insurrection act. chris: specifically, was calling in -- they weren't deployed, they were put to the outskirts of d.c., 1600 of them, but looking back was calling in active duty military specifically, was that overkill? >> so again, from a law enforcement perspective i would say making sure that we keep all our tools in the toolbox ready and available is very, very important. we won't take anything off the table. again, i would emphasize where

more now on the president's strained relationship with defense secretary mark esper. news reporting that the president continues to be angry with esper over his comments about the president's church photo op. esper had said he was not aware that he would be a part of that staged moment before the cameras, but president trump for now is sticking with esper even after the president told aides that he was considering firing the pentagon chief. a senior administration official telling nbc news that the view in the white house is against removing esper, saying it's, quote, not worth the shakeup five months away from an election. the official went on to say that the president expressed his anger to secretary esper at a meeting on wednesday. attorney general bill barr was also at that meeting. joining me once again, nbc news correspondent leigh ann caldwell. you have several top military leaders openly criticizing the president over his response to the nationwide protests and wanting to deploy troops possibly into the streets of this country to try to shut down these protests

meanwhile, president trump appears to be unhealthy with mark esper.omberg has learned the esperent confronted talking about using the military detained protests. president privately asked top advisers if they thought as per could still be effective -- esper could still be effective in his position. a controversial rule banning residents from disrespecting china's national anthem. that adds to fears of beijing tightening its grip on the china triesomes as to an act national security legislation aimed at hong kong. angela merkel has agreed on a stimulus package to get the economy going. that has exceeded the top end of expectations by 30%. the deal includes a cut in the value plus money to improve railways and double incentives for electric cars. global news 24 hours a day on air and @tictoc on twitter. powered by more than 2700 journalists and analysts in more than 120 countries. this is bloomberg. guy: thank you very much, indeed. the fiscal story versus the monetary story. the politics surrounding the stimulus package and what needs to be done next i

victory. >> stephanie, thank you. >>> now to the breaking developments involving president trump and mark esper. esper publicly breaking with the president about using active duty troops against u.s. citizens. and then late today, after a meeting at the white house, esper saying the troops will stay. here's jonathan karl. >> reporter: today, a significant break between the president and his defense secretary over the issue of deploying active duty troops to crack down on violent protests in american cities. the president had threatened to do just that earlier this week. >> if the city or state refuses to take the actions that are necessary to defend the life and property of their residence, then i will deploy the united states military and quickly solve the problem for them. >> reporter: that would require the president to invoke a 200-plus year old law called the insurrection act. the defense secretary flatly said today he opposes that. >> the option to use active duty forces in a law enforcement role should only be used as a matter of last resort and only in the most urgent and dire of situat

john, i mean, if you look at what mark esper said, the defense secretary, do you believe that it carriesugh weight that because he does not want -- or does not support the use of military -- that it might be very difficult for the president to do so? >> absolutely. this is advice the secretary of defense would normally offer the president in private. by doing so in public, he was making it politically untenable for the president to go forward with this. let's just be clear about this, the president's response to this and the steps taken with regard to the riots and dealing with the military have been so ham-fisted, it's unfair to hams, basically. secretary esper and former secretary mattis are institutionalists, in addition to following the chain of command and being sworn to preserve, protect, defend the constitution, they also want to make sure the military isn't drawn into a type of political and broglie a which is so consumed the justice department. they're looking out for the military as an institution, as well, trace. >> trace: which is not to say, john, that the insurrection act h

secretary of defense mark esper. appointed by president trump. you cannot set fire to the house and then claim you were the one trying to put out the flames. do you know who said that? you guys are not well-read, that i can tell you. a.j. parkinson said that. last night we had continued protests across the state, but there are two very different situations that are going on, and we have to keep them separate and we have to address them as separate situations because they are night and day. one is protesting. and the other is looting. so you have two very different situations. some people choose to morph those two together. all of the protesters are actually looters and we should treat them as looters. that is not a fact. that is not the truth. that is not the reality of what is going on. there are people who are protesting and there are people who are looting. very, very different situations. the protesting is righteous indignation over mr. floyd's murder and systemic racism and injustice. and you listen to their point, i think they are right. yo

since it happened, the fact that president trump really was accompanied by the defense secretary mark esper and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, general mark milley wearing combat fatigues when the administration ordered the gas and the beatings to attack peaceful protesters in the park across from the white house so the president could walk across that park and pose for pictures on the other side of it. i mean it says a lot for the president himself, to do that. with like his daughter alongside him, and the attorney general, who apparently ordered the attack on the protesters. and a bunch of white house staffers with him, or whatever. but it actually means something else to us as a republic, and it means something else to our military, to have the defense secretary, representing the defense department, and the chairman of joint chiefs of staff there, representing the united states military, taking part in that photo op as well, again, a photo op for which american citizens peacefully demonstrating were gassed and beaten. so the presence of esper and milley at that event this week

with wit tonight there are questions how long mark esper will remain as secretary of defense. also the man that esper succeeded, james mattis is turning on the president, accusing him of misusing military and dividing the country. >> reporter: extraordinary indeed. norah, secretary esper's decision to publicly disagree with president trump over the use of active-duty military did not go over inside the white house. president trump and his defense secretary are at odds tonight over the decision to call up active military to police protests. >> the option to use active-duty forces in a law enforcement role should only be used as a matter of last resort and only in the most urgent and dire of situations. we are not in one of those situations now. >> reporter: the president disagrees. he called up nearly 1600 active-duty soldiers now staging at four bases outside washington. a decision to send them home today was called off, according to a u.s. official, because of the potential for more violence. the show of force in cities like washington has been called excessive by critics. som

i want to read you a little bit of his resignation, addressed to mark esper. president trump's actions monday night violated his oath to take care of the laws he faithfully executed, as well as the first amendment of the right peaceably to assemble. you may not have been able to stop president trump of direct thing use of force, but you could have opposed it. instead, you visibly supported it. anyone w secretary esper, you have served honorably for many years. you must have thought long and hard about where that line should be drawn. i must ask if last night's blatant violations do not cross the line for you, what will? >> and you know -- >> that question seems to hang over the whole government. >> yeah. our military, i mean, when you talk to them privately, many of them, they know that this man has autocratic instincts. they know what he's doing. they should tell him no, we're not doing it. let me tell you something, to have the head of the joint chiefs, to have what happened, hurts the military itself in the eyes of america. because they've always tried in t

and it's not just former military leaders speaking out, yesterday the current defense secretary mark esperaid he would not invoke the insurrection act. that would quell the protests. that has put secretary esper standing in the trump administration very much in question and he will no longer be sending home all of those active-duty troops that will be staging right here in the d.c. area. >> ed: all right, we will watch that. >> let's talk about all this with guy benson, political editor for townhall.com. we watch this back-and-forth happened between james mattis and the president. >> it's fascinating to watch because as kristin said it's exceedingly rare to see things like this. i read through his op-ed and i agreed with the number of his points. i didn't agree with others. for example i think that he downplayed the extent of the violence on the streets but be that as it may, i have seen some of the pushback against him in the attacks. we quoted some of what the president had to say and some of his supporters as well lashing out. but i would point out that this is a man who is undeniably a

john's church, accompanied by mark esper and general mark milley, chairman of the joint chiefs of staffted. former white house chief of staffer of john kelly. >> i would argue that the end result of that was predictable. i would have argued against it. recommended against it. >> reporter: coming just two days after his close friend, former defense secretary james mattis ripped into trump. donald trump is the first president of my life five who does not try to unite the american people, does not even pretend to try. from those currently serving, the president's threat has received no support. the entire joint chiefs of staff, heads of all the military branches have each issued statements calling for an end to racism. >> think about dignity and respect. >> reporter: none mentioning trump's threats. millie writing, we have committed our lives to the idea that this is america. we will stay true to that oath and the american people. the chiefs first used the strategy of carefully-worded public statements after the 2017 white supremacist neo-nazi rally in charlottesville, virginia. each at th

tonight there are questions about how long tonight, there are questions how long mark esper will remainsecretary of defense, after he broke with president trump on using active-duty military in american cities. also, the man that esper succeeded, former marine general james mattis, is turning on the president, accusing him of misusing the military and dividing the country. cbs' paula reid is at the white house tonight. it's an extraordinary number of developments, paula. >> reporter: norah, secretary esper's decision to publicly contradict the president over the use of active-duty military did not go over well inside the white house. president trump and his defense secretary are at odds tonight over the decision to call up active military to police protests. >> the option to use active-duty forces in a law enforcement role should only be used as a matter of last resort, and only in the most urgent and dire of siationsow eporter:reside dis. active-duty soldiers now staging at four bases outside washington. a decision to send them home today was called off, according to a u.s. official, b

, it is noted that mark esper came to the white house yesterday after those comments in which he tookdistance over the president between active military troops here in american cities. we are told white house officials were really upset, as was the president, over comments esper made. so far we're told esper is remaining on the job, but it was remarkable seeing the white house press secretary saying, as of right now, secretary esper is still secretary esper and saying we will all learn at the same time, most likely on twitter, if the president loses confidence in his defense secretary. >> we've seen this movie before, you can say. barbara starr, jeremy diamond, thanks to both of you. >>> we've been looking for good news in this, and there are silver linings. these protests have not played out in the same way in every city on every day. a white michigan sheriff, this is him here, walked shoulder to shoulder with protestors upset over police brutality. what will he do to continue to be a force for change? we're going to ask him. he'll be on the show, next. >>> across the country we are

mark esper also said keeping politics out of the military is hard in an election year.ew suspect has emerged in the disappearance of the british girl madeleine mccann — it's a man in prison in germany who was in portugal when she went missing 13 years ago. and those are the headlines here and bbc world news. hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. —— to what the papers and international papers will be bringing us. with me are the political editor of the daily mirror, pippa crerar and the deputy political editor of the spectator, katy balls. welcome back to you both. as before, let's have a look at some of the front pages we have already got for 50,000 — the striking number on the front page of the metro, as the uk coronavirus death toll reaches a grim milestone. leading scientists are warning that borisjohnson‘s two—week quarantine plans make "no sense" — according to the times — and that the government's own chief scientific adviser has distanced himself from the policy. the financial times reports on the prospect of a n

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now as far as mark esper he says he had no idea they were going to be taking a picture rather saying that he thought he was only going to be doing 2 things one to go see the damage at st john's church and to talk to the troops in lafayette park that's directly across the street from the white house he also pushed back on the media saying that what was reported was an accurate take a listen national guard forces did not fire rubber bullets were tear gas into the crowd as reported 2nd guardsmen were instructed to wear helmets and personal protective equipment for their own protection not to service some form of intimidation. now melissa miller you also had others that were part of that walk to st john's church one of them actually being the nation's highest ranking military officer also piggybacking off that esper statement saying that they also had no idea about that picture but again looking at this picture it's the guy all the way on the left who was part of that walk over to st john's church and that's what's causing problems and ever and this is also getting a lot of attention fro

left that's at the center of this big controversy today we have depart state secretary of defense mark esper now when we were there had been left 5 minutes later we would about in the middle of all those gas canisters that were fired those flash bangs as well to move those protesters away from the white house and st john's church across the street but that's the big issue which is why james miller resigned now in his letter published in the washington post miller who was a department of defense advisor says that defense secretary marc esper went along with quote trump's orders to fire canisters and the crowd writing president trump actions monday night violated his oath to take care of the laws faithfully executed you may not have been able to stop the president to asper but you could have chosen to oppose it instead you visibly supported it ok now i'm sure a lot of people are wondering who is this james miller guy and what has mark esper said about his resignation so james miller is actually a pretty big deal at the d a d and this resignation had mark responding to this as soon as it was pu

hours lighte later though, the pentagon nolt fied the army secretary, that the defense secretary mark esper had reversed that earlier decision. mccarthy told the associated press, he was told about the reversal after esper attended a meeting at the white house. so it looks like the defense secretary might stand up against this, and then instantly caved. and then yes, we get general mattis, speaking from beyond the political grave today. breaking his silence. and saying this can't happen. the current military leadership is just capitulated entirely. mattis gets up on his hind legs finally and says this cannot be. but a retired defense secretary isn't much compared to a serving one, who won't stand up or whom he stands up for a second and gets immediately chased back into his hiding hole. and his military counterpart, the chairman of the joint chiefs, really did put on combat fatigues and strut around the streets of washington, d.c. like he was trying on military rule for size. and he hasn't said beef about that since he did it. and the republicans in washington, are not exactly standing tall

>> defense secretary mark esper there. i think it's safe to say, cleaning up some comments, defending as well the defense department and its response to this so far. notable, poppy, he said in retrospect, he should not have used the phrase, the word battle space, to describe u.s. places where national guardsmen are operating. also saying he was nots aware of plans to clear peaceful protesters to make way for the president's photo op, which esper joined him for at the church in lafayette square. although he did say he knew they were going to the church, but he says he was not aware it was a photo op. >> let's talk about all this. let's bring back retired general spider marks, boris sanchez, and political director david chalian. spider, if i could begin with you, to jim's point about clearing the way for that photo op, let me, as we play the video for people of what happened, let me quote the defense secretary. quote, the national guard did not fire rubber bullets or tear gas into the crowd, as reported. but what we do know

returning to the defence secretary, mark esper, the press spokesman at the white house has just said . very interesting comments after mark esper took a very different light to the president transcending in the army. she also said that us power police acted with appropriate levels of force when they push protesters back from la fayette square on monday, those scenes which have made headlines around the world. some of the latest headlines from the white house. the central grievance at the heart of these protests is how the us police use force — especially against people of colour. 0ne force that's been held up as an example of how to get the use of force right is camden county police force in newjersey. it was radically overhauled by its chief, scott thomson and was touted by president 0bama as a model for police reform. experts call its new, use—of—force policy, implemented last year, as the "most progressive" policy of its kind. i asked chief scott thomson, who retired last september, how concerned he was about some of the tactics he'd seen in the last week. well, i'm very concerned.

and we also listened in disbelief as mark esper, the secretary of defense, talked about turning public places into, quote, battle spaces to be dominated. this is the secretary of defense who is charged with defending our country, talking about turning rubber bullets and tear gas against peaceful protesters here in the united states. madam president, we witnessed general milley, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, in full military uniform presiding over the breakup of this peaceful demonstration. i remind secretary esper and chairman milley that their oath is to support and defend the constitution of the united states, and they are not permitted by that oath to follow illegal orders, even from the president of the united states. the president of the united states can give them what orders he chooses, but the constitution and their oath requires that their first loyalty be to the united states of america and not to any one individual. and so, madam president, i think it's important that we investigate this incident and the role that the secretary and the joint chiefs of staff played i

defense secretary mark esper has spoken within the past hour and has a differing view from the president over the use of military to control crowds donald trump has increasingly put pressure on governments to mobilize troops but the pentagon has pushed back and asked for says he's trying to keep his department out of politics. i've always believed and continue to believe that the national guard is best suited for performing domestic support to civil authorities in these situations in support of local law enforcement i say this not only as secretary defense but also as a former soldier and a former member of the national guard the option to use active duty forces in a law enforcement role should only be used as a matter of last resort and only in the most urgent and dire of situations we are not in one of those situations now i do not support invoking the insurrection act meanwhile the mother of george 4 distorter has made an emotional tribute to him with their 6 year old daughter standing by her side roxie washington says she wants justice and the world to remember floyd as a good man he

mark esper adding to concerns when describing what he is seeing on u.s. soil as battle spaces.certainly mentioned that during a conference call with governors. he tried to elaborate on that a short time ago. that's leading to renewed scrutiny of a pentagon program that transfers military weaponry to local agencies. some lawmakers are trying to push to crack down on that program. joining me now is one of those lawmakers of arizona. he's a member of the armed services and committee and a former marine. it's great to have you with me. i talked a little bit about some of the things that law enforcement agencies receive. they include things like armored vehicles, grenade launchers. you're hoping to restrict that program a little bit. some are saying end it completely. why not end it all together? >> now, if this continues, we should ban it. i will want to make sure we give credit to the person who instituted this and that's the congressman from georgia. he was my colleague on the armed services committee and he's been the leader in this effort. >> i wanted to get your thoughts, vox

talking about the rather controversial visit to a church that president trump made earlier which mark esper took part let's go straight to our white house correspondent kimberly halakhah what did you make of fought to mock esper was saying their company. well there is a real effort by the trump administration via the pentagon to try and get control of the narrative namely that this is an administration that has been potentially using him abusing federal forces in order to try and quell the protests at least in washington d.c. where this is it a long clay of controlled by the federal government this is where the federal authorities do have the ability to do that unlike in states where the governors are in control so there was a question there about the president's announcement in the rose garden would he use the insurrection act this is something that does allow a president to take control to quell and rest goes back 218007 with the president use the insurrection act he said in the rose garden that he intended to if necessary now we know from the defense secretary that he personally mark esp

may have been there and heard this, but i want to play it for you and get your thoughts on what mark esper had to say. take a listen. >> at times, however, the united statess military is asked in support of governors and law w enforcement to helpp maintain lw and order so that other americans can exercise their right free from violence against themselves or their property. that is whateek to thousands of guardsman are doing today in cities across america.e utmost it is not something we seek to do, but it is our duty.th and weat mon do it with the utm skill and professionalism. i was reminded of that monday as i vizzed our national guardsmen who were on duty monday night e protecting our most aloed grounds and monuments. i'm very proud of the men and nf women ofar the national guard w are out on the streets today als performing this important task and in many ways at the risk ofo their ownr welfare. i've always believed and continue to believe that the ao national guard is best suited p for performingto domestic suppo to civil authorities in these situations. in support of local law enforce

lou: well, what does the future hold for defense secretary mark esper? that's the question tonight. today undermining the commander in chief on national security. take a look and a listen to what the defense secretary today said. >> the option to use active duty forces in a law enforcement role should only be used as a matter of last resort and only in the most urgent and dire of situations. we are not in one of those situations now. i do not support invoking the insurrection act. lou: the defense secretary also telling nbc news last night he didn't know where he was going when he walked with the president to st. john's president monday evening with the president. but today he backtracked, saying he did know he was -- where he was going, but he didn't know what was going to happen when he got there and styled it, again, as a photo opportunity. unbelievable. joining me tonight is kt mcfarland, former deputy national security adviser to president trump, author of the new book, "revolution: trump, washington and we, the people." kt, the president having a little trouble with defense sec

live remarks this morning from secretary of state mike pompeo, defense secretary mark esper, attorney general william barr and national security advisor robert o'brien all set to deliver remarks here at the state department. live coverage here on c-span 3. before it gets under way "the new york times" reporting this morning the country's top military official apologized today for taking part in president trump's walk across lafayette square for a photo-op after authorities used tear gas and rubber bullets to clear the area of peaceful protesters. quote, i should not have been there. general mark milly said in a prerecorded video commencement address that will play to national defense graduates. my presence in that moment created a perception of the military involved in domestic politics. they are certain -- those remarks certain to anger the white house where mr. trump has spent a day since the police killing of george floyd in minneapolis taking stances against the growing movement for change across the country. could hear remarks from the president today. we'll be watching for those

mark esper said he was going to withdraw those trips and he has since withdrawn that decision. back to what is happening in the economy. joe weisenthal is year. -- here. to get thatcting massive on appointment number on friday. we got a taste of what he could bring and it was not as bad as some people thought. one of the objectively better the adpwe got was employment payroll numbers. it is all proprietary data. it was still around this. it showed a loss of 2.7 million jobs for may. the economist had expected a loss of 9 million. that is a very big gap. the caveat is that adp does not necessarily correlate with the official payroll report as much as we would like. nonetheless, it might offer some help that people are returning to work quicker. there may be some people who are starting to come back to their previous old job. there is some help there. women and people of color have been losing their jobs. the next wave of cuts are going to the higher paid workers as well. a lot of it is the people will get their jobs back but there is no saying that it will be too far. it seems v

names of confederate generals from army bases a secretary general i'm sorry secretary of defense mark esper agreed to meet with people to discuss this on a bipartisan basis truck shut it down he got on to twitter saying that this is a great american heritage and a history of winning victory in freedom while completely ignoring that the confederate army the the sad painful fact is that they were traitors and they were fighting to maintain slavery and they were fighting to rip the country apart and it just seems that he's really tone deaf on this issue he likes inject himself on these cultural matters because he feels like this will help general galvanize his base but he's seems to be completely ignoring the protesters who are demanding change and want more to do of the reporter stacey bivins thank you germany's foreign minister has warned israel that its plan to annex pause of the occupied west bank will violate international law. is you the warning and israel just weeks before the new israeli government plans to make the move which is also being condemned by several other european governmen

defense secretary mark esper saying that the current unrest does not merit deploying federal. troops now he says this is days after u.s. president trump threatened to call out the u.s. military to bring peace to u.s. cities more than $9000.00 protesters have been arrested across several cities in the u.s. defying curfews to take a stand for change. another standoff between police and protesters. 'd on. both ends of new york's manhattan bridge temporarily blocked by police after the 8 pm curfew kicks in the defiant crowds trapped until the brooklyn side of the bridge is reopened for the forthcoming book the scoop of. the truth over the top of the 67 joint book you. mom. others to defy new york's curfew marching through the city to protest at the death of george floyd an african-american at the hands of police most were peaceful but there were reports of violence including by some police officers. grabbed innocent people for no reason i just cited lady cop and unfortunately the ground this do was a user journalist and a press does a press pass and a person to the ground. preside

as demonstrations continue for the ninth night, defense secretary mark esper has angered white houseials by publicly distancing himself from the president. anile, the ex-defensive end very jim mattis wrote, "donald trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the american people, does not even pretend to try. instead, he tries to divide us." president trump, meanwhile, says he does not think he will need to deploy u.s. troops. pres. trump: the national guard is customary, and we have a very overful national guard, 300,000 men and women, and we can do pretty much whatever we want as far as that. but as far as going beyond that, sure, it is possible. should only be used as a last result in only in the most dire -- resort, and only in the most dire situations. we are not in that situation now. i do not support invoking the insurrection act. appliedetta: i secretary esper for the leadership he took, because military leaders, almost in unison, do not believe our military should be used to fight our own people. it ought to be used to fight foreign enemies. francine

and we discovered the president is scratching within its two marks, mark esper and mark milley.o we asked president trump how he felt about the fact that they distanced themselves from that st. john's photo op and here's what he said. he said under strict military valuations, they're probably right. that's what military people follow. but the president said, i don't know, i would have been differently. i would think they would be proud to walk with their president. and jonathan said mr. president can you put your hand on your heart and say you fully support mark esper, your fourth defense secretary in three years and president trump said well, i don't think i need to go hand on heart, but if there's a change you'll hear about it. if you're the guy, that's not what you want to hear your boss saying. >> so amidst all of this, you also have the president speaking out for the first time about his niece's first -- forthcoming book. what did he have to say about it? >> this is -- we knew the book was coming next month from mary trump, his niece. a memoir about the family. very tough o

these stories yet but there is a nato defense minister ariel next week where defense secretary mark esper will be getting very pointed questions well this proposal which we have to say is unconfirmed it's already drawing criticism from politicians and defense analysts on both sides of the atlantic how likely is it terry that this withdrawal of american troops in germany will actually happen briefly. you think i can't read president trump better than than anyone else but this is a reason why people aren't getting too agitated about it yet you never know if these things floated out of the white house are actually going to happen or if his military officials will have enough influence on him to get this pulled back before it actually goes into effect terry thanks so much that was the correspondent teri schultz in brussels. just briefly look at some other stories making headlines today amazon is battling police use in of its facial recognition program for the next year the technology has been shown to misidentify people with darker skin the move comes amid growing calls for police reform in t

a move that mark esper made without consulting the white house. additionally, hundreds of active duty troops that gathered at facilities outside the city in recent days are being sent home. trump's decision is cause for concern with former u.s. officials. hundreds of retired diplomats and retired generals served in countries where the military is used to stop protests. called on federal state and local leaders to hold the tradition of staying out of politics. cities and neighborhoods which americans are assembling peacefully are not battle spa s spaces. there is no role for the u.s. military to deal with american citizens exercising their constitutional right to free speech. several high profile former defense leaders, including the first defense secretary james mattis, condemned the move. current secretary mark esper had reservations about using the men and women of the military to keep the peace. >> the option to use active duty forces should only be used as a matter of last resort. and only in the most urgent and tire dire situations. we are no

with the former cabinet members, it includes as well the current administration defense secretary mark esperlicly disagreed with the president on the possible use of troops as i said joint chief of staff chair general mark millie wrote to the heads of military branches that the u.s. military should protect the american right to peaceful protest, nowhere in his memorandum does he note that much of those protest have been hijacked by radical leftist antifa hell bent on destruction and yes against his president. it is incredible, he did not even read or listen to the report of the attorney general william barr, obama air holder roots trying to undercut the president take james miller for example the pentagon until tuesday he served on the defense science board he had been there since 2014 an obama holdover, he resigned his position on the board because he said the constitution was violated when president trump walked from the white house to st. john applicable church, he alleged the protesters who were dispersed at the order of the attorney general not the president by the way were law-abiding