thomas stood by her reportedly texting mark meadows, don't let her and your assets be marginalized. instead help her be the bead and the face. and the next day thomas sent meadows a text saying, the most important thing you can realize right now is there are no rules in war. this war is psychological, psyop, she wrote. do not grow weary in well doing. i have staked my career on it, and that's from meadows back to thomas. and she said, thank you, i needed that. i will try and keep holding on, america is worth it. previous reports say thomas and her husband refer to each other in that regard, and have done so publicly. justice thomas is not directly referenced in any of the messages, and mrs. thomas in the past said she and her husband are not involved in each other's work, and clarence thomas was the only justice that sroed against the national archives being handed over to the january 6 committee. nbc news has reached out to the attorney for mark meadows and to thomas for comment. a lot to digest there. obviously the key question is does jenny thomas speak for or represent the thinki

mark meadows has refused to cooperate.the question is: where is the john dean who will put this outline out. >> dickerson: do you think there is any john dean around, bob? >> there are always surprises. remember the january 6 committee, in a filing in california, has said they have a good-faith conclusion that trump and people around him engaged in a full-fledged criminal conspiracy to overturn the election. they rule this as criminal. and if you go back a hundred years to the supreme court, it was cief justice taft, of all people, saying this -- we're not going to let people meddle with things like the certification on january 6, which is in the law. so much is hinging on the committee's efforts. i think robert and i found that they're really working hard. they're talking to people that there is an aggressiveness and a sense of expanding the universe of likely witnesses. >> dickerson: we only have 30 seconds left. > the question will be: will they ask ginny thomas to appear first voluntarily. if not, are they going to the

we don't know because mark meadows stopped cooperating.s we will start -- you know it would be even better, if the justice department used a search warrant to get these because they won't have to rely on the good graces of mark meadows or johnny tillis, they can just go get them. >> that justice department opens up a whole other door, for sure. jennifer, the bottom line, as we have to be honest about, this clarence thomas isn't going to step down. that's just not going to happen. there are not enough votes in the senate to impeach him. so what is this about? is this more sizzle than steak? >> i think there are two parts to this. one, i want your viewers to understand how crazy this is. all the notary from the bamboo fibers to the kraken, this woman's college educated, she's a graduate of law school, she's the wife of a justice of the united states supreme court, and she believes the stuff? this shows you the degree to which the republican party has marinated in this toxic soup of crazy for all of these years. and if you think the problem i

referred contempt charges, it's been about three months since we are for those charges relative to mark meadows. you know, there is a constitutional duty to appear before a subpoena in congress. and, mr. meadows has claimed executive privilege, and all these other things, as has dan scavino another's. the truth is, there's a process for that. we have to come before the committee, you have to legitimately lay out those items that they believe are covered by privilege. and the committee will consider those things one by one. but just not appearing, and just essentially rejecting, or ignoring a subpoena from congress, it's against the law. that's why we were for contempt arduous, the department of justice did move for bannon, but they've been intransigent, they haven't moved yet, they haven't done anything for bannon. there are two new important witnesses here. it's not just me, others on the committee said the department of justice needs to move swiftly, and do their job, so that, you know, we can do our job and analyze this information as part of our investigation. >> all right, congressman elai

mark meadows had no comment, and his attorney confirmed the content of the text messages. ginni thomas did not respond to multiple requests for comment. and just thomas, who remains in the hospital, also did not respond. >>> ahead on "cbs mornings," we're going to talk with robert costa and bob woodward about the exclusive investigation. >>> confirmation hearings have wrapped up for supreme court nominee ketanji brown jackson. republicans and democrats called expert witnesses yesterday to testify about jackson's potential spot on the nation's highest court. it follows several days of contentious hearings about jackson's record on the bench. if confirmed she would become the first black woman to serve on the supreme court. >>> and turning now to march madness where the sweet 16 wasn't so sweet for two number-one seeds. the top tournament seed, gonzaga, fell to arkansas last night 74-68. the bulldogs trailed at halftime for just the fifth time this season and shot 37% from the field. number-one arizona wildcats also lost yesterday 72-60 to houston. the cougars scored the fir

mark meadows by my count, i'm not great with math, i think we're on day 104 of the mark meadows indictment watch. what does that tell us? it tells us there is some sticking point at the department of justice with respect to asking the grand jury to indict mark meadows for the crime he inarguably committed, a crime for which he has no defense, contempt of congress, because when you're subpoena'd, the supreme court says you show up. you can show up and on a question-by-question basis decline to answer questions asserting a privilege. but meadows didn't do that, navarro hasn't done it, and scavino hasn't done it. the challenge becomes congress can refer these men for contempt all day long, but they're still at the whim of the department of justice of justice regarding the doj's determination to indict these people. >> meantime, jake, we're getting new reaction from lawmakers about those texts from ginni thomas to mark meadows, which of course sparked controversy over where justice thomas should recuse himself. take a listen. >> he's jurist who has a lot of integrity, and i think he will make

mark meadows for what happened in their response to january 6th. that's where i think the new revelations are low striking. it also goes to that kind of core argument of the role of the supreme court and its legitimacy as a non political, a political actor. >> for david, should his wife's texts have stopped? thomas from ruling on election cases? >> well, i think that that is the key point is that he should recuse himself from those types of elements. you won't. i think that keeps the controversy going to some element and look, her political activism and her activism about protecting donald trump and really conservative activism writ large has been well known within dot washington, d.c., and documented. it's not just when you justice, thomas. he loves to go around on the nascar circuit throughout the summer. it's not just when he's out on the nascar tracks, talking about what's going on. it said jenny thomas is taking on a role similar to what antonin scalia did on the court of moving kind of this active constitutional forward. it's that element tha

she has access to not only mark meadows but jared kushner.nstrumental in pushing for certain things to happen with overturning the election. many people have gotten subpoenaed by the committee. had more than 7 interviews. it started to look like a double standard for her and just today we learned that liz cheney and bennie thompson is discussing this matter with the committee, staff, investigator, with other members and likely to send a letter or reach out to her in another way soon to ask her to come in for an interview. >> frank, you can also hold up this debate and the conversations about the substance of what she text and the people to whom she sent the messages and must also hold up the through line of how clarence thomas ruled on every case relating to the 2020 election in a community of one. here are the cases coming before the court. around the 2020 election. december 11, 2020, supreme court refusing to hear that texas lawsuit to overturn the results in six states. alito and thomas said the court should have taken up that case. februa

we don't know, because mark meadows has stopped cooperating.needs to use a search warrant to get these, because then they don't have to rely on the good graces. >> well, that justice department piece opens up a whole other door, for sure. but jennifer, the bottom line is, we got to be honest about this, clarence thomas isn't going to step down, that's just not going to happen. there are not enough votes in the senate to impeach him, so what is all of this about? is this more sizzle than steak? >> well, i think there are two parts to this. one, i want your viewers to understand how crazy this is. all the nuttery, the bamboo fibers, to the kraken, she is an educated woman, she's a wife of the justice of the united states supreme court and she believes this stuff? this shows you the degree to which the republican party has marinated in this toxic soup of crazy for all of these years. and if you think the problem is just some uneducated person out there in the heartland -- no. it goes all the way up to the top of the elites, the supposed elites of

they have these records to subpoena mark meadows.se voluntarily, in response to subpoena, on a, zone in good faith. then you stop producing them. you know who could pick up the content of these if they want to? to the justice department. because they can use a search cordoned. they can go to his phone carrier and get all of them, all of the content, and find out what happened because there is about a month's worth of messages that seem to have just disappeared. there's a flurry of messages in november, they stopped abruptly. >> then why aren't they? why isn't the department of justice pursuing that? if mark meadows was willing to provide information that is this humiliating and possibly incriminating to supreme court justice and his wife but suddenly he stopped, don't we want to know why he stopped that? >> absolutely, and -- >> excuse me, not -- >> correct, i'm not sure i agree with the assumption that the justice department is not investigating. i think this is something that can quietly do to get a search warrant from phone provid

mark meadows. bring you in paul butler. this is now reporting. thomas wrote to the aide to a white house aide were in the fight and had then president donald trump's back. according to the source, until she saw rsc members and i guess she means republican steady committee members in the street she would not help republicans, the largest caucus on capitol hill. she's ordering republicans to get out there and fight. she -- there's a text message where she calls the election a heist saying help this great president stand firm, mark with all these capitals, telling him, you're the leader with him who is standing for america's constitutional governance, the majority knows biden and the left are attempting a heist. blah, blah, blah. she orders mark meadows do not concede. it's time for the army gathering to have his back. it keeps going. she supports sydney powell and says let her be the face of this, release the crack in. she goes on and on. she has a threat involved. don't do it she says. i and 73 mill

they got them from mark meadows, the white house chief of staff.to the right and conspiracy theories as donald trump was pushing to overturn the election. they played into the ideas that trump and the white house people like meadows were espousing as they were gaining support to block the biden presidency. so in one of these text messages a slogan, release the cracken that there might be election fraud. there was none ultimately. this one text message november 19th, 2020. a couple of days after the election. sounds like sydney, sidney powell, and her team are getting inundated with evidence of fraud. make a plan. release the cracken and safe us from the left taking america down. more text messages in november thomas is sending to meadows. after the insurrection on january 10th they went to block the vote and try to get mike pence to stop the presidency of joe biden. thomas writes to mark meadows, we are living proof of the end of america. most of us are disgusted with the vp, pence, and are in a listening mode where to fight with our teams. those w

the election was obvious and so if you've got a judge saying this is an obvious illegal plan and mark meadowshat i think is way more important for meadows' attorney to determine whether he will could often perfect rate. >> the judge lays it out in the course of 44 pages. if the doj should choose to use this for a blueprint for making this case, it lays out a pretty compelling one, i want to ask you about this. jared kushner, the former president's son-in-law, expected to appear before the january 6th committee. cnn has learned would do it voluntarily, not under subpoena. what would the committee gain from talking with kushner? >> well, we know that kushner's wife, ivanka, was in the white house on january 6th and was begging her father, so the reporting goes, to stop the insurrection, to come out forcefully and say, stop. he didn't do that. she didn't prevail. but the implication here is that jared knows what was going on there from talking to ivanka or from others and so he may be another set of eyes on what was going on in the white house on january 6th, which is at the heart of what the co

mark meadows texting her back, not every time, but enough for us to know that he got those messages.mething we should all take away from that, because we know how these conspiracy theorys build. we see what ends up happening at other times over the last few wears, what happens when these conspiracy theorys are believed. >> and we saw sort of the head nod to the qanon believers during the recent confirmation hearings of judge ketanji brown jackson, we'll talk about that later in the show. but juanita, senator amy klobuchar is the latest to call for justice thomas to recuse himself from january 6 cases. i want you to take a listen. >> you have the wife of a sitting supreme court justice advocating for an insurrection, advocating for overturning a legal action to the sitting president's chief of staff. and she also knows this election, these cases are going to come before her husband. this is a textbook case for removing him, recusing him from these decisions. and i don't think -- all i hear is silence from the supreme court right now. and that better change in the coming week. >> juani

whatever you think of mark meadows, he did turn over some documents. he did engage and then pulled back. they have very weak claims to say that they can just defy subpoena outright. merrick garland's job is to look at the evidence and just decide whether this is illegal violation of the subpoena are not. when members press him, they can share their views, but the attorney general should not respond to that. we're seeing that kind of pressure. we must respond to without holding bad, because these people are connected to the white house or they work for someone who my work is president again, is there any reason that you can defy the subpoena? there are some privileges that exist, and there are some reasons. we haven't heard from navarro and scavino, anything very credible there, which is what we've documented. the doj has this obligation, and this is a big deal, because of 150 people have cooperated. does the doj stand with them and the precedent that you have to cooperate with lawful subpoenas almost always? some exceptions exist. as the doj stands wit

mean nothing if the justice department does nothing about it but there are some challenges with mark meadows> with bannon, it was very clear he didn't show up, he didn't acknowledge us. meadows, he did engage, right? he gave us thousands of texts. thank you, mark meadows, and his attorney but it is different. each of these will be different and so that's what i would tell you. so the department of justice has to exercise their own ability, their own guidance and metric. >> reporter: and the difference between steve bannon and mark meadows, mark meadows was very close with the former president, worked in the white house. steve bannon didn't. but still the committee members want the department of justice to start this charge process and hopefully do the same with dan scavino and pete navarro once they are expected to get those, shep. >> leigh ann caldwell, thanks. >>> two people are dead in the florida panhandle after a suspected tornado ripped through the region overnight new drone video showing the damage in washington county, about an hour north of panama city officials there confirmed two

mark meadows talking about this in terms of a fight of good verses evil. a relatively minor chance of that. the bigger question here i think is what does justice thomas do going forward. there is conflict of interest rules exist in the court for the entire honor system whether justice thomas decides to sit for cases that may involved the election or january 6th may be up to him. now that we have seen his wife in back and forth conversations with high levels at the white house about this effort of stop the steal of the 2020 election. >> thank you garret haake. we are having information that justice thomas had been in the hospital with flu-like feelings, he was discharged from the hospital earlier. >>> today also joe manchin from west virginia announced he'll support the nomination of judge ketanji brown jackson to the highest court. >>> last night mitch mcconnell formally declared he'll not support her nomination. joining us now is senator of hawaii, senator hirono. easter recess is couple weeks ago, democrats are hoping for a confirmation by then. what wil

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mark meadows had no comment, though his attorney did confirm the content of the text messages. ginni thomas, she did not respond to multiple requests for comment today. and justice thomas, who has been hospitalized in recent days with an infection, he also did not respond to a request for comment made through the supreme court. >> bob, just extraordinary reporting, what you found out. i understand also that ginni thomas had some comments about the vice president of the united states. >> reporter: indeed. working with bob woodward we found she said "this is the end of america." it feels like vice president pence was betraying her. she said he disgusted her. and we also see the committee now really paying attention to the relationship between a spouse of a justice and a member of the executive branch. >> but it's still not clear what justice thomas knew. >> reporter: and that raises the question, will ginni thomas be issued a subpoena by the january 6th committee? we'll be watching that in the coming days. >> all right, robert costa, thank you. >> reporter: thank you. >>> well, l

as she texted mark meadows, i would just read a couple that are reported quite widely now. t president stand firm, mark, clearly referring to president trump was up the majority, she writes, knows that biden and the left is attempting the greatest heist of our history, claiming that heist of our history, claiming that he was taking the election unfairly or perhaps even illegally. there was one response of several that he wrote back to her saying that this is a fight of good versus evil. and clearly this raises all sorts of questions about the relationship between a spouse and member of the supreme court and potential conflict of interest. in supreme court and potential conflict of interest. , ., of interest. in terms of the connection _ of interest. in terms of the connection obviously - of interest. in terms of the connection obviously being of interest. in terms of the - connection obviously being married to clarence thomas, but there is a public note suggestion that she has influenced the exercise of his duties as supreme courtjustice, and indeed i think i'm right in sain

and another techs to mark meadows, virginia thomas supports another delusion. quote, watermark ballots in over 12 states have been part of a huge trump and military white hats sting operation in 12 key battleground states, she wrote. during that period, supporters of the qanon extremist ideology embraced a false theory that trump had watermark mail-in ballots so he could track potential fraud. think about the. virginia thomas was hoping that it was true, that the president of the united states tampered with ballots in over 12 states and had them illegally marked in a way that would allow the president to trace everything that happened to those ballots. it would be a crime if the president did that. it is also impossible for the president to do the. it is impossible on its face. no sane person could believe the. you are non-followers believe it. virginia thomas wanted to believe it. the supreme court justice spouse can be delusional. that in of itself is not scandalous. the spouse can have serious problems supporting fact and fiction. the supreme court spouse ca

reporter: the house select committee is looking at 2,000 text messages from mark meadows.issue here 29 reported text from ginni meadows. the messages reviewed by cnn and "the washington post" showed she pushed the trump white house to fight the results of the 2020 election after it was called. she tested meadows. help this great president stand firm. she sayshey're attempting the greatest heist in history. at the same time trump was appealing directly to the supreme court to intervene on his behalf. he tweeted on november 6th. i easily win the presidency of the united states with legal votes cast. u.s. supreme court should decide. and now, i feel right at the top, we know that the presidential election was settled law. it was legally held and joe biden was the winner. looking at these texts that three outlets have confirmed with us, jane. overall what is the wife of the justice saying in these texts to the chief of staff to t president? >> well, she's -- she's arguing that the 2020 election was what she calls the greatest heist in american history. and that the results tha

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of course, she has access to mark meadows because of who her husband is.n but her husband also sits on the supreme court. so the questions for whether or not justice thomas should recuse himself from some cases involving january 6th and whether or not going forward there will be rules put in place for that. chief justice john roberts has talked about maybe there needs to be a code of conduct. in terms of the january 6th committee and what he has to say, these emails reveal she was deeply pushing this conspiracy theory, pushing people around the president to try to overturn the government. obviously, present on january 6th as well. and you'll see if she comes before this committee. one thing she says in the text message is she refers to talking to her best friend. and no one really knows who the best friend is. the big question, of course, is, is the best friend clarence thomas? were they sort of going back and forth and talking about and believing in this conspiracy theory, which again, goes to justice thomas' credibility, his judgment. >> the committee wa

the move comes after her texts with trump's then-chief of staff mark meadows in the weeks following thelection were made public last week in a washington post/cbs exposÉ. in a series of 29 text messages to meadows, ginni thomas urges him to take action to prevent a biden victory, citing conspiracy theories about a stolen election popularized by the far-right qanon movement. on november 10, after news outlets declared joe biden the winner, ginni thomas wrote to meadows -- "help this great president stand firm, mark!!! you are the leader, with him, who is standing for america's constitutional governance at the precipice. the majority knows biden and the left is attempting the greatest heist of our history." just months ago in january, the supreme court denied a request by trump to block the release of white house documents around january 6. in the 8-1 ruling, only one justice dissented -- clarence thomas. calls are growing for justice thomas to be impeached after the release of the text messages. this comes as justice thomas participated remotely monday in arguments at the supreme court a

we have seen 29 text messages out of thousands of pages that mark meadows has released.rs of congress. the committee is going to have a lot of questions about what else was she saying, what people were saying back to her. and there was this gap in time. weeks after the election, things go dark until january 10th where she starts texting meadows and back and forth exchanges happen again. they are going to want to know who her best friend is. this is significant. if you're considering is there a line of demarkation between ginni thomas and clarence thomas, there is a data point which clarence thomas in a key decision was the lone holdout. . >> when they came to the tranches of documents to go to the national archives. they did despite the fact that they objected so it. the supreme court operates on an honor system. a federal law requiring recusal when your impatient would be called in question. >> we'll keep watching this. >>> our cnn team is hearing several explosions through the night near the ukrainian capital of kyiv. >>> plus, we're getting word of russian forces tryi

mark meadows, under biden-obama, the caliphate grew. under biden obama, crimea was annexed.wed now takes place. why didn't it happen under president donald trump? >> because we had a president who was not only a strong leader, but make sure that -- as well knew exactly what he was going to be about, and that was about being a strong america. he got rid of the caliphate, outback daddy is no longer on the face of the globe we had other terrorist leaders that met their demise as well. and so when you see this, it's all about having a strength and a will to lead. and what we're seeing right now is a real weakness and sadly, the gaps that you have there, you take no joy in seeing that and are busily the more that they've done, the more problematic they become because you try to make excuses for them. but really where we need to focus is again with our world leaders, whether it's president xi or president putin, we need to let them know that we are not going to just roll over and take their domineering dictatorship and allow the american people to just sit back in a spirit of appe

of electronic messages exchanged between ginni thomas and the last white house chief of staff, mark meadows, in which judy thomas urged meadows to do anything possible to overthrow the results of the election. including, as she said in this text, there are no rules in war. that means that mrs. thomas appears to be more than willing to have committed crimes and violated the law in the pursuit of overturning the election. it is possible that supreme court justice clarence thomas committed a crime by participating in a supreme court decision that forced all of mark meadows communications to be turned over to the january six committee. not only did clarence thomas participate in that decision, which was in and of itself a possible crime, he was the only supreme court justice who voted to prevent mark meadows communications from being turned over to the committee. in other words, clarence thomas voted to prevent his wife's communications to be turned over to the committee. that is, apparently, a vividly clear violation of federal law, which prohibits supreme court justices from participating in

and that the chief of staff, mark meadows to trump, had to step in and do something to try to keep trumpoffice. >> these texts don't mention justice thomas by name and both justice thomas and ginni thomas have said they keep their work separate. first from chief of staff meadows, he wrote, this is a fight of good against evil, ginni thomas responded, thank you, needed that. this plus a conversation with my best friend just now. we do not know who that best friend was. we know that she and her husband have referred to each other as best friend in the past. i want to ask you first of all broadly to get our hands around this, are there legal al-and ethical issues for supreme court justice? what are the rules for a supreme court justice in this area of potential conflict of interest? >> well i've been reporting on this and interviewing several of the country's foremost experts on judicial ethics. and what is fascinating about this new material is that several of these ethics experts on the law said, that clarence thomas and ginni thomas in these particular situation have crossed the red line

comes a day after the january 6th committee reveals it has 29 text messages between his wife and mark meadows concede. it takes time for the army who is gathering for his back. referring to former president donald trump. and on november 24th, when president biden had been officialally declared the winner she said, i can't see americans swallowing the obvious fraud. just going with one more thing with no frickin consequences. the whole coup and now this. we just cave to people wanting biden to be appointed -- we just cave to people wanting to be anointed many of us can't continue the gop charade. there are many, many more messages like that, including some of the most outlandish conspiracy theories. but the issue here is about clarence thomas. he was the only supreme court justice to dissent when trump tried to get his documents to not be turned over to the january 6th committee. now the question is, should he have recused? but in the future, what does the court do? >> it's long been known that ginni thomas is a conservative activist, but this is raising more eyebrows about whether they've had

meadows. help this great president stand firm, mark.to greatest heist in our history. she wrote, sounds like sidney and her team are getting inundated with evidence of fraud. make a plan, release the cracken and save us from the left taking down america. she was referring to sidney powell. in the past, mrs. thomas said she and her husband are not involved in each other's work, but it's important to note justice thomas was the only one to vote against the national archives handing over records to the january 6th committee and he dissented when the supreme court rejected trump's election challenges. garrett haake, a lot to kind of unpack here, garrett. tell us more about these explosive messages between ginni thomas and mark meld does and what the committee might do with them. >> reporter: chris, these texts are as reported by the post a combination of motivational and conspiratorial. the post reports thomas was sending texts to meadows with various different conspiracies related to the election and urged him to stay in the fight, to try

there's certainly the possibility that a case involving mark meadows himself might come before this courts important -- >> i don't mean to -- i don't mean to step in here, but you can't help but wonder if by ruling with that dissent, justice thomas was thinking exactly of the fact that these text messages may surface between his wife and then chief of staff mark meadows. >> that's right. he perhaps did not know. but again, keep in mind that all of these text messages were going back and forth while president trump, former president trump was saying publicly he was counting on the supreme court to overturn the election. that the possibility of justices doing this, so that's why, you know, this involvement is so relevant and the fact that he did not recuse himself from that case is, i think, outrageous. >> do you think ginni thomas should be subpoenaed here? >> i do. it seems clear to me that she was trying to influence the outcome of the election and trying to encourage mark meadows to do everything conspiracy related to try to overcome the election. she in many ways has been the conservat

jim jordan, mark meadows, really important people. people in on that plot.rump was in contact with them until 11:17 and then he stopped. that leaves us with a gap. the trick now is figuring out what was going on, who was he talking to during that gap in time? >> how do investigators, lawmakers on the house committee get to the bottom of it? >> there's ways to do this. you have to do a bit of investigative reverse engineering. there's things the committee knows from testimony that they got from other witnesses. we know that in that seven and a half hour gap, donald trump spoke with kevin mccarthy. this is the call where mccarthy is in the capitol while it's under siege and he begs donald trump to call off his followers. he was on the phone with senator lee. so you subpoena the recorder for mccarthy, for lee, and you look at every phone call, every phone call has two ends to it, what phone is on the other end. look at that number, then you can subpoena those records and that will fill in what phone was donald trump using during that key period. then the other

"the washington post" says north carolina authorities are investigating former chief of staff mark meadowseports that he never lived where he registered to vote. meadows reportedly registered to vote in 2020 using the address of a mobile home he never owned or lived in. he was a north carolina congressman before becoming former president trump's chief of staff. meadows promoted trump's false claims of widespread voter fraud in the 2020 presidential election. >>> still to come, mega rocket rollout. nasa's mission to return astronauts to the moon marks a huge milestone. stuff. we love stuff. and there's some really great stuff out there. but i doubt that any of us will look back on our lives and think, "i wish i'd bought an even thinner tv, found a lighter light beer, or had an even smarter smartphone." do you think any of us will look back on our lives and regret the things we didn't buy? or the places we didn't go? ♪ i'd go the whole wide world ♪ ♪ i'd go the whole wide world ♪ ♪♪ (mmm) (mmm) (hmm) (mmmhmm) ♪♪ milk chocolate beyond words. classic recipe by lindt. when hurting feet make you

nbc news has reached out to mark meadow's attorney and jenny thomas for comment the post and wall street journal also reported none of the messages mentioned her husband justice thomas or the supreme court. it news comes after justice clarence thomas was hospitalized for infection. it is unclear he's still in the hospital, and the supreme court did not respond when asked for information about his health >>> it was a night of nail biters and big plays as the men's ncaa tournament reached the sweet 16 >> duke had to fight from behind with texas tech. paolo led all scores with 22 and the coach gets his 100th tournament victory duke wins it the houston cougars pounced on top ranked arizona houston led wire to require to advance 72-60. and the arkansas faithful chanting after a monumental win. ganzaga was the overall number one team in the tournament but proved to be no match for the razorbacks arkansas completes the upset 74-68. >> the wild cats walked out of the gym with an elite eight birth. the action continues tonight with a cinderella st. peters squad duking it out with perdue. and the

afteri, you made a very important point that said, the only reason mark meadows is writing back to mrst is pretty often, is because of the powerful position her husband holds. so just that alone, this cannot be swept under the rug. this is injure heart-stopping stuff. right away we know the court is down to about 50% approval before this. i know that the chief justice in particular really cares about it. so i would love to see some voluntary action right now by the court, if they really care about their legacy. >> yeah. it's really important. i'll just make one last point under moderator's privilege. we're not talking about cases that hang by one vote. this really isn't for those concerned about changing outcomes. on some of these issues s. justice thomas is such as outlier, that you have five votes to hand over the evidence, so anyone who sis is this about the outcome? this actually is not. it's concerning for the reasons the guests laid out. it's about the credibility of the court and as an institution, not about getting some different outcome in the short one. for justice thomas to

meadow and thomas were part of a different trove of documents handed over mark meadows. wife's messages. they were flu-like symptoms but not covid. he was approached by cnn a short time ago. wolf, he declined to comment. >> paula reed reporting. thank you very much. i want to big deeper right now into all of this. members of the ecocommittee wano weigh the optics of calling a justice wife but what about a justice wife advocating a coup. >> far more important is the integrity issue this imposing for the supreme court. there's not a code of conduct or really specific rules as to when justices ought to recuse themselves but this taints the integrity of the court and poses questions as to how much faith the public can have and how independent the decisions of the judiciary are. it's bad for the supreme court as a whole. >> the senate minority leader put out statement. it says justice thomas is a great american and an outstanding justice. i have total confidence in his brilliance and impar ttiality i every aspect of the work of the court. kw what's your reaction? >> there's n

because his wife texted and white house chief of staff mark meadows about

mark meadows had no comment, though his attorney did confirm th content of the text messages, ginni thomas, she did not respond to multiple requests for comment today. and justice thomas, who has been hospitalized in recent days with an infection, he also did not respond to a request for comment made through the supreme court. >> o'donnell: bob, just extraordinary reporting what you found out. i understand, also, that ginni thomas had some comments about the vice president of the united states. >> reporter: indeed. working with bob woodward, we found she said this is the end of america. it feels like vice president pence was betraying her. she said he disgusted her. and we also see the committee now really paying attention to the relationship between a spouse of a justice and a member of the executive branch. >> o'donnell: but it's still not clear what justice thomas knew. >> reporter: and that raises the question: will ginni thomas be issued a subpoena by the january 6 committee? we'll be watching that in the coming days. >> o'donnell: all right, robert costa, thank you. >> reporter: than

among those are the ones that mark meadows and now we're finding out there are emails between mark meadows and ginni thomas, the wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas. those were in the days leading right up to that january 6th and even when the president was speaking before people january 6th. what complication does that layer onto this when you have the wife of one of the supreme court justices that is hearing a lot of these cases as they go up the system that she was in direct contact with the white house and may have even been in contact with jared as well? >> it's no secret, jessica, that ginni thomas has been involved with right-wing organizations for decades, not just years, decades. and these organizations, many of them have been involved in one way or another in trying to usher in president trump and keep president biden from coming in. when it comes to making decisions, of course, the supreme court is the ultimate court. judge thomas, clarence thomas, her husband, sits on that court. believe it or not, jessica, there are no rules that deal with any kind of conflict of int

one of the big things that i would say is just emblematic of the entire investigation, mark meadows turnednch of documents and then decided he was not going to cooperate. it doesn't prevent them from piecing together the full picture of this day of january 6th. the other interesting thing i am watching, katy, is what does the committee do about sitting members of congress. no sitting members of congress have been subpoenaed thus far. jim jordan and kevin mccarthy turned down voluntary request for interviews, and we are almost in april and the election is in november, and kevin mccarthy told me last week if this committee is still in existence next congress it will look into what nancy pelosi knew about the january 6th incident and what she was trying to do to head off the riot with the sergeant in arms of the capitol police, and so they need to get going if they are going to bring members before the committee, and they are going to fight it and not show up, and all of those things might happen and they want to do public hearings this spring or this summer. >> this spring. it is this spring

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she and mark meadows, who worked closely together all the way back to the days of the tea party, we'ren cahoots. he was the chief of staff, not just a by standard, and she was working with the chief of staff. and the communications that clarence thomas would have kept secret were ones that he should have had no voice in keeping it from the american public. because this law, contrary to what a lot of people say, is not optional. i have heard supposed experts say it applies only to lower court judges. but supreme court justices are exempt. no, they are not. it specifically says that no justice shall participate in a matter where he have reason to know that his spouse, or her spouse has an interest. and the interest here was very direct. now it is true that there is no clear enforcement mechanism. but that does not change the fact that would clare's thomas did was illegal, and if he continues to participate in matters that arise from the attempts to get information to the january 6th committee, or anything related to the 2020 election, he is going to be violating the law again. i would as

take a look at what she said to mark meadows on november 10th.tand firm, we will fight until there is no fight left. our country is too precious to give up on. thank you for all of do. there are 29 in possession of the select committee. this might not be the sum total of communication between meadows and thomas. this is just what meadows himself turned over to the committee during the small period of time when he was cooperating with the committee. and there was even a conversation between the two of them after january 6. remember thomas was at the ellipse during the rally that took place outside of the white house and never came here to the capitol, but she told meadows we're living through what feels like the end of america. move of us are disgusted by the vp and are in a listening mode to see where to fight with our teams, those who attack the capitol are not representing djt, amazing times, end of liberty. leading for calls for justice thomas to recuse himself for anything related to the january 6 committee. >> thank you for your reporting. l

this exchange between mark meadows and ginni thomas where she implores the chief of staff to do everythingber 10th she wrote help this great president stand firm, mark. and later went on to say, the majority knows biden and left is attempting the greatest heist of our history. meadows responded by saying, i will stand firm. we will fight until there is no fight left. our country is too precious to give up on. thanks for all of you do. but she took it a step further. she also really pushed specific legal theories and lawyers that were making this case that there was widespread fraud across country without a lot of evidence. chief among them sidney powell c who is a discredited actor in all of this. and at one point on november 22nd saying trying to understand the sidney powell distancing. the white house was trying to distance itself from sidney powell and meadows responded she doesn't have anything or at least won't share if she does. and then there is what if any connection ginni thomas has to january 6 itself. she has admitted that she attended that speech. the stop the steal rally outsi

still have to play christiana christiana, rinaldo in portugal, in tuesday's playoff final and mark meadows from d. w. sports is with us. hi, mark. what a shocked at any was he was coming? not really. no, i mean this is actually, i mean, everybody saw how wonderful they were in the euro's back in june and july. most football fans were say they really deserve to, to win that tournament. but yeah, they're out and let's give credit to, to north macedonia because they have a bit of history of this. they beat in germany, for example, in the qualification in germany. and they also reach the euros, the 1st of a major tournament and a perform pretty well. so it's not such a massive surprise. busy but this was a one off game played in italy. everyone expected italy to win it and they've not managed it. how heavily fallen so far so fast? i think what upset them a little bit was that because the euro's was delayed by a year because of the corona virus pandemic. it kind of appeared in the middle of wilco qualifying. so i think that sort of upset italy's rhythm a little bit. they didn't actually lose a

mark meadows as chief of staff but could be someone else. >> let me say this whole presidential papers act was not enacted until after watergate. it was enacted in response for one, nixon back dating the papers for the government basically committing tax fraud and two, because he was also not releasing any of these tapes that were in the white house and congress just decided to step in and make the presidential papers, the property and the people. the question is who is responsible? we don't really know who that is. we know that donald trump would continuously rip up documents, ignore the acts, put documents down the toilet. we need a grand jury investigation. the problem we have right now is that this committee is unwilling to bring its own members of congress in and take their testimony. this would not be an issue if you had a grand jury with a prosecutor who could bring people in and question them. they'd have three choices. one the to either take the fifth amendment, two, they tell the truth, or three they go to jail. and if they take the fifth amendment, the government then has th

ginni thomas was urging mark meadows to do whatever it takes to overturn that election. in one text message, mrs. thomas said, there are no rules in war. bob robert and -- reporter for the washington post broke the story saying the text messages have been obtained by the january six committee. while supreme court justice's wife was texting the white house about overturning the election, donald trump said that in his attempt to overturn the election, quote, we will be going to the supreme court. and, of course, it was the supreme court who decided that those text messages would have to be handed over to the january six committee. clarence thomas dissented in that opinion. clarence thomas had a stake in that opinion. clarence thomas should've been recused, he should've recused himself from participating in that opinion. this is the most outrageous conduct ever documented by the spouse of a supreme court justice. and we have not heard one word of objection to that conduct by any of the republican attackers of judge ketanji brown jackson, and the senate judiciary committee.

has obtained more than two dozen text messages between president trump's former chief of staff mark meadowsni thomas, the wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas, including this one sent after the january 6th attack. it reads, we're living through what feels like the end of america. most of us are disgusted with the vp and in listening mode to see where to fight with our teams. those who attack the capitol are not representative of our great teams of patriots for djt. amazing times. the end of liberty. joining me now is cnn chief legal analyst jeffrey toobin. put this into context for us, jeff, including the fact that, remember, in january, justice thomas was the only one who dissented in that decision to alu allow the committee to receive documents from the trump white house from the archive. >> what is important about the messages is not the really extreme and somewhat crazy views that ginni thomas expresses like, you know, that biden and his supporters should be sent to prison in guantanamo. it is really, really extreme stuff. but she's a private citizen, she's entitled to her view