listen to mark millie. mark millie is not some liberal. right? mark millie isn't like, we need to get free breakfast for kids. mark millie is like, i want american democracy to survive. trump's people will say, well, mark millie is this and that and a treasonous trader. but normal voters, people are sort of not in the call will go, oh, my god. i do think that is something. and remember, this campaign has $1 billion. so they can drive this message home. >> and they should at every turn. will squeeze in a quick break and come back to you guys on the back end of it because we need to talk about elon musk, unfortunately. i hate to do that you guys coming up after the break. brea. you nailed it! you did it! with centrum silver. clinically proven to support memory in older adults. >> remember when elon musk took over twitter and turned it into x and promised that the platform would be politically neutral and would not favor political candidate? well, that while came crumbling down last weekend when musk rallied for trump in butler, pennsylvania. he pub

i will give you one guess which former president mark millie was describing there. arizona senator mark kelly is standing by and i will get his response to those comments after a very quick break. brea . smell that freedom, eh? download the my lawn app today for lawn care tips and customized plans. feed your lawn. feed it. when anyone in this house wears white, it doesn't stay white for long. white? to soccer? i'm not gonna slide tackle. but now with tide oxi white, we can clean our white clothes without using bleach even works on colors. i slide tackled. i see that. it's got to be tide. >> so many of donald trump's former cabinet members or senior advisers have sounded the alarm of what he was like in office, but it's almost hard to even be surprised anymore. but this week, some comments from mark millie, we were even talking about it before the show. is not exactly a lefty progressive -- certainly did the job. bob woodward describes a conversation with millie where he said this -- quote, no one has ever been is dangerous to this country as donald trump. he went on

not supported by the dozens and dozens of people that worked for him like mark esper, dan combs, mark millie, jim mattis, all of the national security people, they know he made these kinds of outrageous statements. mark esper has been on other networks not on fox, making that same case the vice president is making and brett will not be showing those kinds of things on air. i dare fox news and brett to have mark esper or people like me or sarah matthews and liz cheney and adam on their but they will not do it because they will get beat up by trump who they give all that free airtime to. >> as a comms person, i do wonder, there is a clear earth 1 earth 2 reality, fax versus paranoia divide in american culture right now. the editing that you saw, brett place his version of what trump said about the enemy within which does not include trump doubling down on the notion and then there was what he actually said in the town hall. i just wonder whether you think a exchange like that is enough to pierce the veil of secrecy or partisanship that is often the bubble that these potential nikki haley suppo

dozens of people who worked for him, people like mark esper, people like dan coates, people like mark millie, people like jim mattis, all those national security people who didn't work for him, they know he made these kind of outrageous statements. mark esperus has been on other networks, not on fox making that same case that the vice president is making. and brett bair won't be showing those kind of things on-air. i daret fox news and bret bairo have mark esper, to have people like me, to have people like sarahpl matthews and liz cheney and adam kinzinger on there. but they won't do it because they'll get beat up by donald trump who they gave all that free g airtime to. >> you know, sarah, as a comms person i do wonder there's such a clear earth one, earth two, reality versus parallel reality, facts versus paranoia sort of divide in american culture right now. the editing that you saw -- bret bair plays his version of what trump said about thesi enemy within, which doesn't include trump doubling down on this notion of the enemy within. and there's what trump actually said in the town hall w

pretty well respected, particularly these books he puts out at the end of a presidential term and mark milliever he says, and he goes on to say, i had suspicions when i talk to you about his mental decline and so forth, but now i realise he's a total fascist, forth, but now i realise he's a totalfascist, he is now the most dangerous person to this country, a fascist to the core. this is a man who was very senior within the white house, advised both donald trump and joe biden, who knows him better than most, and he's come to the conclusion that he is a danger to the country. but it doesn't seem to me that congressional republicans pay any attention to those kind of warnings. it’s to those kind of warnings. it's very striking _ to those kind of warnings. it�*s very striking as you say, generally there are dozens of former top officials under trump who are now taking similar positions and are dead against him. when trump came in in the 2017 there was a lot of talk about the grown—ups in the room, most of these grown—ups in the room kind of disappeared and trump has a very different group of peop

he quotes mark millie, calling donald trump a fascist. and woodward went on tv i think yesterday thing mattis agrees. i want your response those comments., retired four-star general which is unprecedented, basically since eisenhower in the 50s. are you concerned about the political, politicalization of the military? >> yeah, i am. and i don't think mark millie's comments are helping the situation. because, he was not elected, president trump was. is someone who puts my name on the ballot, and goes through that vetting every other year, essentially what you're doing is calling the $70 million -- 80 million people who voted for him, somehow they got duped or stupid. rather than looking at he is more of a symptom of some things that we have seen over the years in terms of wages that have been flat, a forgotten middle class and middle america, in places like ohio manufacturing left in the void was filled with opioids and fentanyl. whole areas of appalachia, i think jd vance really talks about this in a very artful way , people who don't under

now, mark millie, tromp's chairman of the joint chief of staff, — chairman of the joint chief of staffchief of staff, a career military officer. _ staff, a career military officer, a direct quote that says— officer, a direct quote that says donald trump is the most dangerous person ever that we faced _ dangerous person ever that we faced in— dangerous person ever that we faced in this nation. doctor james _ faced in this nation. doctor james madison of the 4—star marine — james madison of the 4—star marine general, trump's secretary of defence agreed wholeheartedly with that. earlier _ wholeheartedly with that. earlier this week, the chief of staff— earlier this week, the chief of staff 4—star generaljohn kelly staff 4—star general john kelly came — staff 4—star generaljohn kelly came out— staff 4—star generaljohn kelly came out and said on the record. _ came out and said on the record, that donald trump is a textbook— record, that donald trump is a textbook fascist would rule like a — textbook fascist would rule like a dictator. textbook fascist and would rule like a dictator. but tru

which is why you have someone like the former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff saying what mark millie has said about donald trump being a threat to the united states of america. >> so here are the former president's full comments on the enemy from within narrative, which vice president harris just referenced. >> you know, you know what they are? a party of soundbites. somebody asked me, can they be brought together? i never thought really i was thinking they could because they are very different. it is the enemy from within. they are very dangerous. they are communists and fascists, and i use a guy like adam schiff. they made up the russian hoax. two years to make up the problem. et cetera. they are dangerous for our country. we have china and russia and all of these countries. if you have a smart president, they can all be handled. the more difficult, the pelosis, and the people are so sick and evil. if they would spend their time trying to make america great again, it would be so easy to make this country great. i heard about that. they were saying i was threatening. i'm not threate

. >> general mark millie. the former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. donald trump's top general. has called trump and i quote, fascist to the core. >> and anybody who knows general milli knows he doesn't use the words lightly. i just -- people got to take it seriously. michael cohen. they have to take it seatly. >> you know in 2022 when i put out my second book "revenge." the end of the book, 2022 now. trumpism is fascism and we must eradicate it from our body politic. those are the words that i used over two and a half years ago. nothing has changed and tim walz is correct. he has become even worse. he's become the absolute worst version of himself even imaginable. and this is not a joke and you know, i bumped into a friend of mine the other day and we were talking about the dancing that was going on. and all the nonsense with the microphones and his comments and this is a super educated -- this is a guy who went to ivy league. he goes don't you find it funny and i'm like yeah, it would be funny again if it was on "saturday night live" but when jimmy

it is for reasons like these that general mark millie, the former chairman of the joint chiefs of staffdonald trump's top general -- has called trump, and i quote, fascist to the court. >> vice president kamala harris moments ago calling out the ex- president's dangerous claim that some american citizens are what he calls, quote, the enemy from within and has vowed to pursue them using the united states military. joining us now, donald trump's former lawyer, michael cohen. he's the host of the michael cohen show on youtube, and your position is that this is not hypothetical. this is happened already. >> it happened to me. how many times have i been on the show or other msnbc shows where i have talked about how i was unconstitutionally remanded? in fact, tomorrow, the judge takes it to a meeting before the other justices to make sure whether or not they're going to accept the word. i am living proof. i am the first and only political prisoner held by my own country because i refused to waive my first amendment constitutional rights while he used marshall's within which to come get me and

general mark millie saying, donald trump is a fascist to the core. this is a military man. tell me about the use of the word fascism. too much, too soon, too little, too late? it does seem so far removed from our experience as american citizens that i think some people don't take it seriously and make it feel like you are being a little crazy by saying it. >> it is far and away -- it is far past time to label this what it is. and what we are seeing is a fascist social and political movement. there are many varieties of authoritarianism. the kind of authoritarianism that vilifies lgbt citizens. that is based around immigration and immigrants as criminals and vermin. that labels any supporter of democracy with a small d as a marxist, cleaning that marxists are controlling the institutions and says we need violence to root them out. the kind of extortion that we are seeing. essentially, trump is saying, if you don't elect me, this country is going to plunge into violence. when he says bloodshed, what does he mean? he is encouraging his supporters to plunge the country into vio

you don't have to take mattis' words or mark millie's word for it. tional security advisor john bolton's word for it. our national security adviser, hr mcmaster's word for it or defense secretary mark espers word for it or even mike vice president, mike pence's word for it. we can just take trump's own words. when he says he wants to be a dictator on day one of his presidency. he's not just saying it, he's promising it. i've been saying it and i think you feel it. you've seen it over the last few weeks. hell, we've seen it over the last nine years. but certainly the last few weeks, this is a straight up descent into madness in front of us and he's repeatedly talking about it. he's talking about shutting down media outlets that he doesn't like, seizing total control of the department of justice, installing his loyalists to run the military. he wants to weaponize our democratic institutions against you, the american people. sure the hell against me. but it's against anyone who disagrees with him. that's what he's trying to do. folks this time there's no

they're getting this from mark milly and john kelly who gave on the record interviews.ohn kelly's own voice talking about it. central premise is we should not take his words seriously. that kamala harris' words matter, and donald trump's dis. donald trump calls kamala quite regularly. he did it last month a couple times. he did it in august. jake tapper in the last hour was playing audio of it. not only does he call her a fascist, he calls her a communist. last time i checked communist was pretty bad. mao, stalin, responsible for over a hundred million people's deaths. george w. bush commemorated the lives lost to communism in 2007, i believe it was. so spare me, as usual. i don't think anyone should be called hitler. hitler is a unique -- a uniquely depraved human being. i don't want to use his name this those contexts, but to say this is something they're inventing, getting it from the people that worked for him, is not fair. if you're upset being called an authoritiarian, look at his truth social posts, the cease and desist letter he has about prosecuting people he s

the first warning came from general mark millie. the nation's highest ranking military officer who called trump fastest to the core and the most dangerous person to this country. in aramark to the journalist bob woodward and woodward's new book. the second came from trump's secretary of defense, madness, a retired four-star general. and this week general john kelly, trump's longest serving chief of staff said that trump is certainly an authoritarian and if given the chance would govern like a dictator. according to the poor, kelly felt compelled to speak out. to deploy the military against american civilians. in that interview, he said that trump frequently praised hitler, expressing admiration for hitler's general and claiming that the nazi leader did some good things. kelly gave trump an opportunity to suggest that maybe he meant otto von bismarck, but he said he meant hitler. he not only lost a world war that hitler started but mostly died by suicide as that failed war ended or were found guilty of war crimes or were executed. no

which is why you have somebody like the former chairman of the joint chief of staff saying what mark millie decided about donald trump being a threat to the united states of america. >> jesse: why did we see anger like that about a border? about prices? crime? never showed a flash of anger! when it was affecting millions of americans. she was not likable, she was not charming, she was never funny, she was nonwarm, there was nothing gracious, eloquent or reassuring about this performance. then brought to ask her to the question, that action the whole campaign she had to think about. >> so you are now joe biden and you're not donald trump but nothing comes to mind that you would do differently? >> let me be very clear, my presidency will not be a continuation of joe biden's presidency. like every new president that comes into office, i will bring my life experiences, my professional experiences and it fresh and new ideas, i represent new generation of leadership. i for example m somebody who has not spent the majority of my career in washington, d.c. >> jesse: she spent eight years in washing

ago bob woodward reported in his new book trump's former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, mark milly, said that trump is fascist to the core. days later woodward told the bulwark james mattis also thinks trump is a fascist. and now trump's longest serving chief of staff, john kelly, is coming out as well. saying that trump wants generals like hitler had. saying that trump said hitler did some good things and saying that trump fits the definition of a fascist. and today the news vice president kamala harris is planning to deliver a closing argument in the form of a speech in washington, d.c. next tuesday, one week from election day. and a accordingk to a permit application filled out by the harris campaign they are specifically asking for space on the ellipse, where trump gave his now infamous speech on january 6th before his followers attacked the capitol. while we don't know exactly what harris' closing will be, today we might have gotten a hit. today the vice president took time out of her schedule with only 13 days left to go to give these formal remarks. >> so yesterday we learne

definition just two weeks ago, bob woodward reported in his new book that trumps former chief of staff mark millie said trump is fascist to the core. days later, woodward told the bowl work that trumps secretary of defense james mattis also thinks trump is a fascist and now his longest-serving chief of staff, john kelly, is coming out as well saying that trump wants generals like hitler had, saying that trumps that hitler did some good things. and, saying that trump fits what kelly believes to be the literal definition of a fascist. today, nbc news confirmed that vice president harris is planning to deliver a closing argument in the form of a speech in washington, d.c. next tuesday, one week from election day and according to a permit application filled out by the harris campaign, they are specifically asking for space on the ellipse were trump gave his now infamous speech on january 6 before his followers attacked the capital and while we don't know what exactly her closing message will be today, we may have gotten a hit. today, the vice president took time out of her schedule with only 13 days l

it started with reporting by bob woodward in his new book "war" where he reported general mark millie, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff saying trump is the most dangerous person in this country, a fascist to the core. bob woodward joins me now. good to have you on, bob. >> thank you. i wonder if i can ask you about a concern that i see echoed in millie coming up to you at the event where he told you this and what david pluck just said the idea that should trump win again, the kinds of folks that were there attempting to restrain him and keep him on the same page of the constitution are gone, and that could spell catastrophe. i wonder if given all of your reporting if you think that is a rational concern? >> reporter: it is racial. trump is a -- loner, he is a one man band. he does not like the truth. what is being kicked around now, painful, he still claims he won in 2020. 60 courts rejected that, even his friend, senator lindsey graham from south carolina has told president trump, i report in my book, said hey, mr. president, you are with the people that think the earth is flat

. ♪ ingrezza ♪ >>> the former chairman of the joint chief of staff mark millie said no one has ever beenscist to his core. >> that quote is actually from bob woodward's new book "war" . page 179. where he corners bob woodward at a large reception in washington and a room crowded with people and has a very private one-on-one conversation with him. telling bob woodward this about donald trump. the president mark milley worked for. he is the most dangerous person ever. i had suspicions when i talked to you about his mental decline, but now i realize he's a total fascist. he is the most dangerous person to this country. a fascist to the court. i will never forget the intensity of his worry. when you begin your work, maybe any time. i am trying to imagine a chairman of the joint chiefs telling you a former president is a fascist and a danger to this country. >> well, and then he proved it. and events prove it. there are so many in the middle east. netanyahu at one point after the hamas attack in israel is so worried about hezbollah he wants to launch a preemptive attack on hezbollah. and the

the people who sat with him in the sit room during foreign crises, mark millie, the top general for donald trump said this is the most dangerous person to our country. not a terrorist, not vladimir putin, not kim jong un. that's what he saying. that should be alarming. when you hear this sort of, you know, what about-- or they must not be listening. they must not be seeing the two candidates out there right now. we have one candidate trashing america issuing dark and divisive language, and another who is actually talking about bringing us together as a country, that's why republicans are endorsing her. >> ian, i've got to get you one more thing. on tuesday, quickly, what is she going to say to the american people in this speech that's being billed as her closing argument speech? >> she sees this like a prosecutor. we've had the trial, we've seen all the evidence, and now it's time for a closing argument, and what i think you will hear from her is a choice between two different people were going to be president just across the street at the white house, she is going to say president trump s

which is why you have someone like the former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff saying what mark millie has said about donald trump being a threat to the united states of america. >> he just use a sound bite to try to clear donald trump of saying a thing in which he cut out the part where he says it, watch. >> it is the enemy from within and they are very dangerous, they are marxists and communists and fascists and their saying music i like adam schiff because they made up the russia hoax, it took two years to solve the problem, absolutely nothing was done wrong. they are dangerous for our country. we have china, russia, if you have a smart president they can all be handled. the more difficult are the pelosi's, these people they are so sick and they're so evil, they would spend their time trying to make america great again, it would be so easy to make this country great, but i heard about that they were saying i was threatening, not threatening anybody, they are the ones doing the threatening, they do phony investigations, i have been investigated. it's true. think about it it is called

that's why you have the former chairman of the joint chief of staff saying what mark millie has said about donald trump being a threat to that united states of america. >> here's what donald trump actually said about the enemy within that bret baier would absolutely not allow his audience to hear tonight. >> the bigger palm is the enemy from within. not the people who have come in and distort our country. totally destroying our country. the towns and villages are being inundated. i don't think they are the problem in terms of election. the bigger problem are the people from within. we've got bad people and sick people and radical left and lunatics. it should be easily handled if necessary national guard or if really necessary by the military. they can't let that happen. >> that is the video that bret baier should have shown. to put bret baier's trump supporting fanaticism in perspective, consider this. when bret baier was angrily and repeatedly and secretly telling people at fox four years ago they had to immediately begin publicly lying about arizona and reversed the fox election de

he will divide, demean, attack, and there won't be a john kelly pulling him back every day or mark millie pulling them from the brink because he said he will have a loyalty test in the new administration. this should alarm people. it should make people understand that the bigger attempt we have voters bringing them into the coalition for vice president harris and her economic vision that brings down cost for families and protecting -- protecting freedoms of reproduction, the more people we can bring in, the better our chances are to win in 30 days. >> let's talk specifically about the campaign in michigan. in the new york times, there is a quote from debbie dingell in michigan who in 2016 was the one raising alarms that the clinton campaign that she would lose michigan and here's what she said in 2024. i can't describe to you the anger and all of our communities and it is really bad with the jewish and arab american communities concerned and many not there and african american young men expressing frustration at being taken for granted and not clear that young people will turn out. are yo

. >> general mark milly, you look at stan mccrystal, the former general.donald trump would be a threat to the kind of military they dream of which is a military that does its job of protecting america and does not get involved in politics. they're truly alarmed in what general kelly said. it comes out. a place of sincerity and strength. he knows because he was the former chief of staff. i don't think fascism has been swaying voters. when i travel around the country talking to people about what they want to hear about, they don't take the fascism claim seriously. because they think he's already government. went didn't have a fascist government then. the focus should not be on fascism. it should be on the economy and inflation are the number one things that are moving people away from her. and to me if she focuses on fascism, it will rile up -- it will please a lot of people who think the fascist threat is real. maybe they're right. we're trying to get at the undecided voters, the low interest voters. i don't believe fascism is the way you should close a cam

which is why you have someone like the former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff saying what mark millie has said about donald trump being a threat to the united states of america. >> and here's what donald trump actually said about the enemy within, that bret baier would absolutely not allow his audience to hear tonight. >> the bigger problem is the enemy from within. not even the people that have come in and destroying our country, totally destroying our country, the towns, the villages, they're being inundated. but i don't think there the problem in terms of election day, the bigger problem are the people from within, we have some very bad people, we have some sick people, radical left lunatics, and i think, and it should be very easily handled by, if necessary, by national guard or if really necessary, by the military. because they can't let that happen. >> that is the video bret baier should have shown. to put bret baier's trump supporting fanaticism and perspective to consider this. when bret baier was angrily and repeatedly and secretly telling people at fox 4 years ago that they

i don't think that cia officials are generally in the news on a regular basis but i have seen mark milliend john kelly say quite a few things on this score and to you included. >> carol, thank you so much for not just getting through this breaking news story with us, but as always, more importantly, putting it into context in the national security context. we're grateful to you, always. tim, let me bring you in as someone who knows this story perhaps better than anyone on the planet. what is your reaction to the testimony that jack smith obtained from mike pence? >> i see it as more meat on the bones of the story that the committee told a couple of years ago. there's no significant new fact but there's significant new detail that reenforces the bones of the story that we told. this was an intentional multipart plan fueled by deception orchestrated by the former president to prevent the transfer of power. that's what the committee said. that's what this pleading puts together. again, more details. i'm struck by the pence stuff. we obviously did not get the direct testimony of the vice pres

bob woodward writes in his new book "war" retired general mark millie called donald trump dangerous andst to the core. mark esper, trump's secretary of defense wrote in his own book that he was worried donald trump would attempt a coup during january 6th writing without being too explicit, my message was clear, the u.s. military was not going to get involved in the election no matter who directed it. i would intercede. and john kelly, trump's former homeland security chief and white house chief of staff told cnn trump is a person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our constitution, and the rule of law. there is nothing more that can be said. god help us. joining us now, former new york congressman and senior adviser for the political action committee vote vets, max rose, he served as an army infantry officer in afghanistan and received a bronze star and purple heart for his serve. congressman, i'm happy to have you. i don't want to talk to you about political leanings. i want to talk to you about your experience in the army. when donald trump says this sort o

characteristics that are being ascribed to donald trump by john kelly and by the likes of james mattis and mark milly. and that's where you see donald trump just two weeks out now from election day trying to use these individuals but also political enemies, perceived political enemies like liz cheney to suggest it was actually them who were standing in the way of a more fruitful and efficient washington. and if it hadn't been for them, not only would his first administration have been more successful, but a successful administration that is unencumbered by individuals like john kelly or james mattis or even a mike pence would be even a more successful washington under donald trump. you mention this is all playing out in realtime. and last night just mere hours after the release of this audio conversation between michael schmidt and john kelly, donald trump took the stage in front of thousands of americans in greensborough, north carolina. take a listen. >> i think putin saw how stupid we were with these generals. what a stupid group of people they were, mattis, milley. you know the real ones, the one

she dil d a lot of that in the town hall that's where the fascism conversation comes in but what mark millien kelly said. 40 of 44 cabinet secretaries to work for trump aren't backing him and there were a number of endorsements out today the republican mayor of waukesha ais g.o.p. stronghold., a g.o.p.fo state senator fromn wisconsin anfrd to all of them coming out saying have nevert voted fothr democrat my life but that's what we have to do now. the other closing message is fo, the rank-and-file democrats fo r people like me and that is aboue reproductive rights cost-of-living. a medicare proposal to expand coverage for people at home aging people protecting health care building housing ander a.so on. >> just gave iott a shot for framing in the best possible way. >> but the argument is trump isa a fascist right he's hitlerum that's theen argument that's wht we hear every day that was the big off dumps i would repeat the question i asked how many months ago. if you believe trump is a danger to america a true and literal fascist don't you have the responsibility to stop him at all costs which

jim mattis and mark milly who said he's fascist to the core. it's a question that everyone in government and aspiring to politics has to answer. >> listen we've been working in politics a long time, right, this is crazy uncharted waters. we can have policy discussions at the national level for candidates about taxes. and -- but this is where we have a conversation about whether or not someone who might be president of the united states is a fascist. first i want to say, you know, actually i think we owe a thank you to general kelly and those other generals who are still on duty. because i still see this as general kelly and the other generals still protecting america. this isn't about partisanship they have an oath to the country and the constitution and thank god they still see themselves standing on duty trying to protect the country. so i'm thankful that general kelly came out and he's putting it forward. and i want to throw the question back to you, nicole, how much of this conversation about fascism is going to matter to that 47, 48% of tr

john kelly has said this, bob woodward, mark millie, jim mattis.. but what we saw in the first term was a lack of ability or will, or hard work, to make those changes in the government. make those changes in america that he wanted to. but now, combine the fact that he will hire people like jim mattis, john kelly, he has promised not to hire people like that, people with broad experience and intellectual capacity. he has promised not to hire them. and they figured out where they went wrong, let's say on immigration issues for instance. i think that all of this group, including john bolton, the former national security advisor, believed it could be a much more dangerous administration because he has a better sense, or the people around him have a better sense of what he wants to do or what he can achieve using the right mechanisms. >>> up next, -- with jimmy kimmel. they talk about the presidential race, the role of comedy and politics and donald trump's threats to punish people who don't agree with him. that conversation is just ahead on "morning jo

. >> george: generals john kelly and mark millie called donald trump a fascist.ala harris agrees. we have any information on that? >> we asked the question in our new poll which candidate do you think that label applies to. we even defined it, quote, a political extremist who seeks to act as a dictator. 49% almost half the country say donald trump is indeed a fascist. only 22% say the same thing about vice president harris. that poll was conducted before those john kelly comments where he said he is a fascist. raises the question about how that can be. among those who say donald trump is a fascist, 8% say they are voting for him anyway. while that fascist label isn't really sticking on harris, the idea of her pandering to voters seems to be. 57% of registered voters say she makes proposals just to get votes, not to make policy. that's slightly more than people feel the same way about donald trump. george? >> george: rick, thank you very much. rebecca? >> rebecca: we turn to elon musk. wall street journal reports the world's richest man has been having secret conv

general millie called trump a fascist to his core. senator mark kelly is going to join me for his reaction to that, but first, jd vance it's five chances to say trump lost in 2020, but he fails all five times. and yesterday, he said the transfer of power was totally peaceful in 2020. not sure where he was at. the gas lighting is obviously reaching new heights and the warning signs are flashing bright red and of this election in just three weeks. the great neil is standing by and he joins us next. >> when life skills heartburn, how do you spell relief? do you? >>> i think we all remember how jarring it was to watch jd vance stand on a national debate stage and refused to say that donald trump lost the 2020 election. if you thought that was bad and awkward to watch, get a load of this. >> do believe he lost the 2020 election? >> i think there is an obsession here with focusing on 2020. i am much more worried about what happened after 2020. >> yes or no, did donald trump lose the 2020 election? >> let me ask you a question, is it okay that big techno

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