also joining us, former rnc chairman and msnbc political analyst, michael steele. why aren't you out here with us? we need you at the table we my friend. >> that's the crew right there. >> right. all right. >> he didn't get the spoiler alert. >> well, you know, i thought that at least your mother would approve. >> she'd be fine. >> pick up where jeremy left off, please. >> look, this is a complicated issue obviously. i think context matters. >> we will get hit is simple. >> contest matters, first of all, where you began the discussion, which was about the wall street journal article which your piece was on, jeremy and i agree. i think there is a robust debate needed about the future of the office of dni. >> is that what's happening or is he just messing with them? >> there's been a big push among policy makers and the number of folks for some time that think that this sort of bureaucratic structure is problematic. and that needs to be shaken up. so if they're working o than, i'd be encouraged and sort of reassured that there's a serious discussion. the problem is t

but what i just mentioned to michael steele, and what i'm going to go back to michael steele for reaction to, was this trump event. you name the topic, from russia to the intelligence community, to the emoluments act, to his business affairs, on and on and on. he touched on it. the answer was controversial. and michael, stand by, listen to this with us some of what we heard. >> disgraceful that the intelligence agencies allowed any information that turned out to be so false and fake out. and that's something that nazi germany would have done and did do. as far as hacking, i think it was russia. russia will have much greater respect for our country when i'm leading it than when other people have led it. if putin likes donald trump, guess what, folks, that's called an asset not a liability. >> turns out that collection was just on the one topic of russia and vladimir putin. michael, a lot of people who do what you do for a living, have been around the process, were a little shaken by what they saw today on so many fronts, bumping up against not just tradition but precedent. we had a former

michael steele is the former chair of the republican national committee. this is really weird. i thought that jeff zeleny of the "new york times" had a great question. he said to sean spicer, do you believe this 3-to-5 million vote theft by illegal immigrants? because it forced him to admit, okay, i'm a flak. i'm just here doing my job. i have a boss watching on the nanny cam. i better say the right thing with force but he didn't say he believed it. >> he clearly dodged the question. i think the reason why is because he's the spokesperson who is channelling donald trump, both the message, the facts or the alternative facts as the case may be and even the tone and demeanor and when he can swing it, the look. that is his job and it what every press secretary demands of his press secretary. >> why would donald trump leak through his confidante saying she didn't like the fact that the preds of the united states doesn't like the fact that he doesn't own any dark suits. so in walks sean spicer with a dark suit for the the first time. is this how the president communicates with his na

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we have to say good-bye to michael steel. that seems criminal. we might keep you aroun here. > coming up, there are two iron clad rules of politics. michael steel will tell you, don't ever go after michelle obama and don't ever, ever, ever go after john lewis. michael steel told me that. donald trump just broke one of those rules. we'll talk about it when we come back. >>> i don't see the president-elect as a legitimate president. >> you do not consider him a legitimate president, why is that? >> i think the russians participated in helping this man get elected, and they have destroyed the candidacy of hillary clinton. i don't plan to attend the inauguration. it will be the first one that i'm going to miss since i've been in the congress. >> thanks to congressman and civil rights icon john lewis, a leading democrat has finally questioned donald trump's presidency with candor and of course this morning trump's itchy twitter finger struck back. congressman john lewis should spend more time on fixing and helping his district which is in horrible sha

>> michael steele says that happily!e house making big moves and news on immigration, health care enhanced interrogation techniques and much more, some congressional republicans are finding themselves back on their hills. joining us from philadelphia the site of today's republican meeting, msnbc capitol hill correspondent kasie hunt. >> reporter: good morning, guys. yeah. look. this is typically a group, as joe knows very well, republican members of congress, house and in senate that tend to value discipline, order, they try to be as efficient as possible. their leadership is usually a little more top down than say, democrats and donald trump has up-ended all of that and i would say that the predominant mood yesterday we expect to continue into today is one of broad confusion about exactly what is going on at any given moment. i think, you know, we have talked about how fast all of this moves with tweets and executive orders. and instead of focusing really on the things that they want to talk about, the health care law,

joining me now is michael steele and rebecca tracer. michael, there's no first order of defense, it seems to me, of having hearings before a background check is completed. >> the process is a process. it is designed for a reason. every administration, regardless of party, ideology and all of that has subscribed to this because it's an orderly way to get through the transition. >> i'm glad you said that. one of the things that is strange to me, it's partly for the protection of the administration that's doing the nominating. >> yeah. >> it really is. we don't want to find out two weeks in that they are really black-mailable because they collected an unsavory enterprise. >> the vetting process in government is designed for a very particular purpose and you just hit it right on the head, to protect the principal, the president, the senator, whoever the head of that office is as they work with these other actors, largely unknown. no matter how close your friends are, everybody has a little skeleton somewhere. >> that's exactly right. >> thi

joining me now to talk about it a little bit more, michael steel, former chairman of the republican national committee and democratic strategist. i'm thinking about six and a half years ago. whatever side you were on, i thought there'd be political resolution to this. you look at those numbers though. we're in the same place we were when it comes to the politics. >> we are, staef, and the expectation that we would somehow be in a better place, in my view was never there. having been on the front line was that battle six and a half years ago as rnc chairman. and the reason was -- the way the democrats went about this. the way they talked about it, the way they rolled it out and had the speaker of the house then nancy pelosi infamously play, let's pass it then we'll find out what's in the bill. all of that sort of built into this process, an uneasiness with the american lek tort. particularly those who have the access to the health care system. not so much looking to get into it, but the folks are already there paying into the system. it was stark for me today to watch the president walk aroun

joining me now is michael steele. this is what is striking to me about the lewis thing, aside from the fact that anyone else would have taken a pass. you don't need to engage. >> right. >> but the tweets about he should spend more time helping and fixing his district falling apart, not to mention crime-infested, lewis represents buckhead and the downtown atlanta. the atlanta journal constitution, "atlanta to trump-wrong." he thinks john lewis is black, he associates blackness with falling apart inner cities and attacking for a fictional district. >> that's it. i mean, it's the stereotype of the black congressman representing a black district that's got to be poorly uneducated, et cetera, et cetera. it speaks to this stereotype narrative that some have about black officials, black politicians, black leaders that they represent not prosperity and opportunity. >> right. >> and a way forward but rather represent the misaligned. it's so bs that it drives me up the wall when i hear this. not just with donald trump's tweets

tom freedman, columnist for the "new york times," nbc news political analyst michael steele and kimberly strassel, columnist for the wall street journal. welcome to sunday. it's "meet the press." >> the longest running show in television history celebrating its 70th year. this is "meet the press" with chuck todd. >> good sunday morning. you heard that right. we are beginning our 70th year on the air, a year-long celebration. we'll have more on that later in the show. let's get down to business. for the second straight saturday, the new trump presidency was met with frustration, anger and protests. but unlike last week's massive planned demonstrations, yesterday's were spontaneous and had to do with specific action by president trump. the president's steps to, in effect, prevent some muslims from entering the country led to dozens of people with permanent resident status being detained at american airports. that led to protests at those airports all around the country. many others at airports across the globe en route to the united states were simply told to go home. the wild scenes at u.

. >> here with me now to break this down, steve mcmahon, democratic strategist and michael steele, republicanegist. good to see both of you.. michael, let me start with you. already there is a lot of joking about this, people talking about carrier pigeons. there is a real threat, nobody is doubting that, but when you talk about changing the way that government not just government but every major business, every major government in the world works and going from technological advances to couriers, does that make any sense to you? >> it will be a boon for the bike messenger industry. >> you're not going to bike to london to give a message to the prime minister. >> well in that case it will be a bit of a boon to fedex or u.p.s. or other messenger services. there's no doubt that electronic communication systems are not as secure as we'd like them be. i think that is not as vulnerable to the sort of electronic attacks that we've seen from hackers all over the world. >> steve, what do you think is going on here? >> it's ironic we talk about electron ache tacks from all over the world and the presid

and analysis are pulitzer prize-winning author doris goodman, columnist for the new york times, michael steele and kimberly strassel, columnist for "the wall street journal." welcome to sunday. it's "meet the press". >> from nbc news in washington the longest-running show in television history celebrating its 70th year. this is "meet the press" with chuck todd. >> good sunday morning, you heard that right. we are beginning our 70th year on the air and a year-long celebration and we'll have more on that later in the show. the new trump presidency was met with frustration, anger and protest, but unlike last week's massive demonstrations yesterday's were spontaneous and had to do with an action by president trump. it prevented some muslims from entering in the country led to people with permanent resident status being detained in airports and that led to protests at airports around the country. many others at airports around the globe en route to the united states were simply told to go home. the wild scenes in airports included seatac where authority his to use pepper spray on protesters. yester

that's the former chairman of the republican party, michael steele. michael, where do you stand on the sessions nomination? >> i'm in support of it, number one. i find -- i found the hearing process to be largely pretty good. i think jeff sessions has handled this very well. he articulated his failure in the past to really appreciate how important this process is, to getting confirmation, as we saw what happened in 1986. more importantly, i think he took head on a lot of the critics and criticism of decisions that he's made and votes he's cast. and i thought in particular, with cory booker becoming historic, you saw the first sho for the 2020 democratic nomination for president. let's just put that on the table. certainly, that's part of the drama and theater of what he chose to do. but i also found it somewhat ironic that just in january of 2016, in legislation that he co-sponsored with mr. sessions, that celebrated those who walked from -- walked the selma mile, if you will, that he referred to him as it was a great honor to work with him and that he

. >> respect for the office, michael steele, respect for the institution and respect for the process. that has elected a man that has people in barack obama's orbit and a lot of people in the media's orbit terrified right now. >> it does. it was interesting. go back and look at some of the early interviews and certainly the press conferences that the president did in the beginning of 2009 and you can compare that to yesterday and what mike was saying, in the sense that sobering understanding of the weight of the office. i think he has tried to ga some of that the laugh few months. he asked about his legacy. he wants it to be a part of the american fabric but recognizes to your point, joe, that transitions happen and change comes and throughout it all, we are going to be bigger and better and stronger. now what is going to be interesting, i think, for people on the other side whether democrats or in disarray where do we go, or the republicans assume maybe too much. now that we have the white house, the congress, and the senate, about what we are going to do next. i think there's some l

. >> joining me now is michael, michael steels and former spokesman to house speaker john bay nor. i'll start with you on this, michael. you heard lindsey graham there. shaken to the core. your reaction, are you shaken to the core as well? >> no. i think that no one doubts the professionalism, patriotism and resolve of the intelligence officials to keep us safe. at the same time these are herky issues. >> so what you're hearing from lindsey graham, though, is he cannot believe the reaction from the president elect. your response is you agree with the responses coming from donald trump? >> well, i think we heard this morning from the incoming white house chief of staff. i think we'll hear from the president-elect himself later this week. but i think there is no question that there is continuing area for investigation, that our intelligence services are going to continue to do that and bipartisan leaders will continue to do that as well. >> should the president-elect be questioning the validity of what the intelligence community is coming forward with? >> i think if you look at the re

. >> michael steele, was talking with colleagues today after i came back from this interview with john lewis. and it struck me, donald trump wasted the last two months. he had an opportunity to try to basically -- as one person said, make it so the asterisk doesn't stick. whether they are small or big gestures. the biggest one would be just say i want to get to the bottom of this too. >> absolutely. >> i think that is the most profound part about this. is that watching republican leadership just to your point, put of bricks in the wall has been disturbing folks. my thinking is you want to get out there and expose that this did not happen. your suspicions are not founded. and yet, by their actions and their quiet, i guess support of what was coming out of russia or elsewhere, sort of denying this is feeding this mill. so when you see someone like a john lewis who's probably, you know, learning stuff as a member of congress and putting it together and you have other sources putting the stuff together, the narratives being created outside of them. >> right. >> and they're not controlling

michael steel and rick stengel, thank you for your time. appreciate it. still ahead, the first day of donald trump's presidency was met with record-breaking protest across the country and around the world. we have people here you do not want to miss. hours after michael flynn is sworn in as national security adviser, news he has been under investigation for contact with russian officials. that story is after this two-minute break. >>> and i will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which i am about to enter. >> the duties of the office on which i am about to enter. >> so help had me god. >> so help me god. >> vice president mike pence yesterday swearing in senior white house staff members including former brightbart publisher steve bannon, steve of staff reince priebus and michael flynn. hours after he took the oath of office the "wall street journal" reporting flynn is being investigated by u.s. counterintelligence officials examining his contact with russian officials. it was followed up by a similar report from cnn, there have been

nbc news michael steele, and kimberley strassel, and i thought it summed up pretty well in "the washingtonost" where he said this week was everything trump supporters could have hoped for and everything trump's opponents could have feared. kimberly strassel, what say you? >> this is a president that will fulfill all of his campaign promises and take action. this is also a president who sometimes allows his own missteps to get in the way of his successes. he did a lot of stuff this week that was important and good for the economy, but some of it was overshadowed by back and forth over attendance and crowds and voter fraud and diplomatic tiff he did a lot of stuff this week that was important and good for the economy, but some of it was overshadowed by back and forth over attendance and crowds and voter fraud and diplomatic tiff with mexico and we'll see if there is any greater discipline going forward. >> discipline, tom friedman, i don't know, but then again donald trump doesn't mind the chaos. >> you know, chuck, one of the points i actually make in my book is from a systems analyst named

. >> the rnc chair michael steele, he spent a large part of his time messaging against the democratic president. the party chair does message against the president. >> you saw the millions of people who marched in the streets this weekend they are looking to the democratic party whe have an opportunity to be that place of resistance. so we have to form a solid resistance as a party. no, it's not about working with donald trump. no, it's not about working with his bigotry. no it's not working with somebody who takes our health care away. we will miss opportunity if we do not provide a platform for those millions of people, millions of women -- >> i have to shorten you. quickly, tom perez. >> i think we should accord donald trump the same courtesy that mech mcconnell accorded barack obama which wasn't a damn bit of courtesy. >> the issue of -- i want to get to staffing and contracting. very quickly, this is literally three things. three bullet of how you can make come true the prediction there would be a surge of latino voters. the latino vote rose from 10% to about 11% of the electorat

he's there. >> michael steele, off of what leader pelosi is saying, you speak to many republicans.y that is out there among people, two of the pillars of our culture, medicare and medications and the threat that's posed to them? >> i think that's part of an ongoing debate. what donald trump has done, he's sort of pricked at that particular scab within the party. there's always been beneath the surface and joe knows this, a conversation about how do we deal with this big entitlement program and process. donald trump has come in and said basically we're not going to touch that right now. he said that from the very beginning. he's been very clear about that. but the leadership in the budget planning and certainly in the rel rick as you know, they have gone out and said, we want to take a look at these things. so i think there's going to be much more of an internal struggle within the party. >> i think there's going to be a struggle on the hill but donald trump knows he won because he won wisconsin, he won ohio, he won michigan, he won pennsylvania and that's not the paul ryan brand of

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michael: exactly. we have seen that in steel, aluminum, solar panels. the veryis this reason donald trump was able to make an argument that resonated on trade and loss of jobs? do -- r we have to michael: i think there was a bipartisan consensus that we should do everything necessary to hold china's feet to the fire and create a more level playing field with them. of course, china is a country we don't have a free trade agreement. the countries with whom we have them, we have tended to have pretty good trade balances we 'd they have improved over time. china is one we don't have a free trade agreement with and that is where the big deficit is. charlie: they sell more to us than we sell to them. michael: correct. charlie: would tpp have influenced that? michael: china was not part of tpp. charlie: i know, but would it have done anything to be leverage against what china was doing? inhael: by raising standards the region, by saying if you want to be part of the modern trading system you have to have strong labor and environmental protections, you have to g

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michael pence. [ cheers and applause ] [ chanting ] >> a big barricade between spectators and the presidential motorcade procession, you can see lots of members of military police there and then the steel barricades and then folks, and you can see the various signs there, this is around the navy memorial, there are some signs and protests, but as you hear, there are a lot of people chanting, trump, trump. >> this is the sound of democracy. >> a lot of voices. >> the president gets into bubbles, they're expose to this, not every hour of every day, but prime. >> you can see some of the signs and see where people stand. >> that would be the naval memorial area they're passing by right now, should be coming up fairly shortly on the hotel. >> they are getting there, yeah. >> at some point, there will crowd size, they have varied anywhere from 1.1 million when barack obama was inaugurated. >> you may see a swell. >> in this town, in this region, we're not incredibly supportive. >> and you hear a lot of things about protests, i know in cleveland there was a lot of coverage about protests, and it was a lovely time in cleveland, very, very safe. but if you're afraid there are going to be protes

michael pence. [ cheers and applause ] [ chanting ] >> a big barricade between spectators and the presidential motorcade procession, you can see lots of members of military police there and then the steel barricades and then folks, and you can see the various signs there, this is around the navy memorial, there are some signs and protests, but as you hear, there are a lot of people chanting, trump, trump. >> this is the sound of democracy. >> a lot of voices. >> the president gets into bubbles, they're expose to this, not every hour of every day, but prime. >> you can see some of the signs and see where people stand. >> that would be the naval memorial area they're passing by right now, should be coming up fairly shortly on the hotel. >> they are getting there, yeah. >> at some point, there will crowd size, they have varied anywhere from 1.1 million when barack obama was inaugurated. >> you may see a swell. >> in this town, in this region, we're not incredibly supportive. >> and you hear a lot of things about protests, i know in cleveland there was a lot of coverage about protests, and it was a lovely time in cleveland, very, very safe. but if you're afraid there are going to be protes

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steel. alix: over the weekend we heard an executive order was signed by donald trump on obamacare. how easy will it be to replace and repeal? we will be speaking with michaeletary. he will give us insight as to how easy or not it will be to change obamacare. also signing -- also shining the lens on bank services as well. there should be some great discussions. good to see you back in the warmth, back from davos. tom: thanks so much, alix steel. we appreciate that this morning. it is the trump first 100 days. maybe we have to get to the trump first 10 days. valliere of verizon, and bruce kasman. the republicans will go for more than an hour in philadelphia later this week. i would suggest that meeting is more important than the meeting with prime minister may. what does speaker ryan and senate majority leader mcconnell say to trump after a bernie sanders-like speech? : you look at that speech. first of all, he said the politicians, both parties, were out of touch and corrupt. that angered a lot of people. but then on the issues, he did not talk about tax reform. he talked about spending a ton more money on infrastructure. he did not say a word about the def