then you have donald trump, who knows mike pence is in danger and people are shouting "hang mike pence," he knows that mike pence is on the move out of the chamber. >> yeah. >> he chooses that time to tweet an attack on mike pence that he knew would only rile up the crowd more. again, think about that fact, nancy pelosi, this woman you love to vilify, she's actually worried about mike pence's health and his well-being while donald trump, the former president that so many of you unfortunately continue to worship in this strange cult-like way, actually tried to bring harm to mike pence that day, channels of "hang mike pence," the president learns mike pence is on the move, he then tweets something to rile up the crowd, make it more likely that mike pence and his family will be caught and captured by the angry mob, possibly killed, because that's exactly what they said they wanted to do. and that's donald trump. and don't tease yourself that mike pence's life wasn't in danger because in danger. some of you say they don't think it was ever in danger, it makes me sad for you because you're

it further inflamed the mob which was chanting, hanging mike pence and provoked them to even greater ence. this deliberate decision to further and rates the mob against vice president pence cannot he justified by anything that president trump might have thought about the election. the tweet came precisely at the time mike pence's secret service detail was most seriously ncerned for the vice president's physical safety. we have obtained new documents from the secre service a real-time chat, that underscore the threat they knew that vice president would be facing because of the president escalating incitement of the mob. after trumps tweet, one agent in the secret service's intelligence division immediately warned, potus just tweeted about pens, operably not going to be good for pense. another agent reported the llowers. impact of potus said he lacked courage, over 24,000 likes in under two minutes. employees at twitter were nervously monitoring the situation. they knew that certain twitter users were rioting at the capital and tweeting about it at the same time. as the afternoon progre

. >> that was former vice president mike pence.r he would vote for former president trump in 2024 if trump is the nominee. the question wasn't about the primaries. the question is will you vote for trump if he's the nominee. with me now cnn political commentator errol lewis and commentator s.e. cupp. would you agree pence chooses his words carefully? >> very. whether trump wins or losses will have nothing to do with mike pence. i don't think he's a relevant factor in this republican party. the trump fans see him as a trader. and never trumpers like me think he enabled trump too much. so i don't know who mike pence's natural voters are, and i don't think we're all playing the waiting game he wants us to play. >> it's interesting because even with 80% approval, donald trump has to contend with what is emerging as a possible republican primary race for that position. you know, between josh hawley and marco rubio and ron desantis who's raised $130 million, he didn't raise that much money just to go back to tallahassee. a lot of people

mike pence traitor! >> mike pence is murdered in case you haven't heard yet. it's appearing mike pence in tront of us that's the word, that michael pence has stirred us. >> between 2:30 and 2:35 within ten minutes of president trump's tweet thousands of rioters overran the line that the metropolitan police force's civil disturbance unit was holding often the west side of the capitol. this was the first time in the history of the metropolitan police department that a security line like that had ever been broken. president trump's conduct that day was so shameful and so outrageous that it prompted numerous members of the white house staff and other trump appointees to resign. in prior hearings you heard matt pattenger and sarah matthews explain why they felt compelled to resign on that day. since then we have spoken to more high ranking individuals, and transportation secretary elaine chao who resigned after the 6th in protest of trump's smowks and to disassociate themselves from his role in the violence. take a listen to what they had to say. >> i was stunned b

they're also looking for any of these communications involving mike pence. obviously we know in the runnup to january 6th that trump's view of mike pence very much soured and their relationship very much soured. they're looking for any communications that the committee investigation and witnesses, and lastly anything that would involve the destruction of materials, any record of the destruction of documents, which was interesting. so this is a very broad subpoena in terms of what the committee is seeking and a relatively tight deadline in order to produce all of these communications. as evan was saying, they sort of run through all the ways they think donald trump was an active participant in this act of blocking the peaceful transition of power or attempting to. >> active and enactive at some

was that mike pence? >> mike pence. >> so donald trump was wrong about the constitution. >> yes. and i think he got some very bad advice about the constitution that day. >> so senator lee says trump was wrong about the constitution. pence was right about the constitution. vice president pence has endorsed youopponent, he has called him "the only conservative in the race." if mike lee's actions after the 2020 election were so egregious, why would mike pence endorse him? >> it's about power. it's about power. and, you know, mike pence did the right thing, thankfully, on january 6th, leading up to that day. he had done a lot to justify the actions of a president who wanted to hold on to power, despite the will of the people. and so he's not guiltless, either, in the effort to overturn the election. the fact is, they both contributed to an effort to overturn american democracy in the weeks and months and years preceding january 6th, and they both should be accountable for that. >> so there are a lot of scenarios that could play out on november 8th when it comes to control of the senat

it's mike pence. there are don't know. there are private phone calls that no one else heard between trump and pence that only those two men can answer the questions to about what was said and what went on. you know, i do think, for a while, the committee was reluctant to get into subpoenas for those two men, because they knew they would be bogged down in litigation and might serve as a distraction to their work, but at the end of the day, i think they had to reach the conclusion, at least with trump, that you couldn't not issue a subpoena to him. you had to try to interview him. he's so central to everything. he's the most important person in the plan to overturn the election, and so if you don't make an attempt to interview him under oath, you cannot have a complete investigation, and i've got to think a similar line of argument applies to mike pence. now, they had said in the past, they do believe greg jacob and marc short's testimony make up for pence not testifying, that because they got a lot from those two men, that p

as you saw in jon's report, mike pence, that phone call with nancy pelosi. pence determined to uphold his constitutional duty. his new book "so help me god" comes out. his interview will be right here. my exclusive interview on "world news tonight." of course we'll let you know as it gets closer. >>> in the meantime we turn to the other news, the midair scare on a united flight from chicago to miami. a bird strike, they believe, just after takeoff. the pilot declaring a emergency and turning the plane around. gio benitez covers aviation. >> reporter: the united flight had just taken off from chicago, bound for miami, when the airline says the jet experienced a bird strike. this image showing flames shooting from the engine shared by air drop among passengers. >> something just didn't feel right about the takeoff. you feel the worst possible scenario, that you're not going to survive it. >> we can see smoke and fire coming out of left. >> roger. >> reporter: the pilot declaring an emergency, turning the boeing 737 around, back to o'o'hare. no one on board inju

my exclusive interview with mike pence, monday, november 14th on "world news tonight". a special hulu presentation that night, "the pence interview," and a special edition of "nightline." again, mike pence on january 6th, on the former president, on where he sees the country headed next. the exclusive interview, right here in the coming weeks and of course, we'll let you know as it gets closer. >>> in the meantime, as this was all playing out today from the january 6th committee, there was a major headline from the supreme court rejecting former president trump's emergency request involving those classified documents seized from mar-a-lago. let's get right to abc's terry moran who has covered the court for us for years. and terry, what did the court say? >> reporter: david, it was a one-line order from the supreme court with no public dissents from any of the nine justices. so, really, a stinging loss for the former president. the trump legal team had come to the supreme court and asked that the special master appointed in this case get access to the classified documents

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it's insane. >> mike pence, trader! -- traitor! >> i keep hearing that mike pence has screwed up. that's a word. i keep hearing reports that mike pence has screwed us. [end of video clip] rep. raskin: between 2:30 and 2:35, within 10 minutes of president trumps tweet, thousands of rioters overran the line that the metropolitan police civil disturbance unit was holding on the west side of the capitol. this was the first time in the history of the metropolitan police department that a security line like that had ever been broken. president trump's conduct that day was so shameful and so outrageous, that it prompted numerous mentors of the white house staff and other trump appointees to resign. in prior hearings you've heard matt patton sure a deputy white house press secretary sarah matthews explain why they felt compelled to resign on that day. since then we've spoken to more high-ranking officials like president trumps envoy to northern ireland in mick mulvaney and transportation secretary elaine chao, who resigned after the protest of trumps misconduct and to dissociate themselve

mike pence said, you're wrong. >> yeah.l be a major shift in geo politics. it would be huge, right? pence has some allies like congressman adam kinzinger, but he's not going to be in the house next year at all. or liz cheney. so many republicans who were willing to stand up to these pro-russian forces within the conservative movement, within the republican house, are not going to be there anymore. so, again, whether it's on election denialism or also on ukraine versus pro-russian forces within the party, pence is outnumbered right now. >> you know, rand paul's chief strategist tweeted out this is such horse -- you can fill it in. he's fighting every one's war, which he shouldn't do that. rand paul may run. >> yeah. >> it's interesting. so subservient for four years, he does it in a quiet language way. he's stirring the big fight within the republican party. >> he is. he talks about this as sort of a rising chorus. it's the main chorus, and the lead singer is donald trump in terms of cozying up to putin, in terms of criticiz

and then the call from former vice president mike pence. what he reveals on speakerphone that would prove so pivotal that night. jonathan karl standing by, he's with us tonight. >>> as this was all playing out late today, the supreme court rejecting former president trump's emergency request involving those classified documents from mar-a-lago. terry moran on that tonight. >>> the emotional scene for families who lost sons and daughters in the parkland shootings. the jury sparing nikolas cruz the death penalty. parkland families walking out of the courtroom. >>> tonight, the deadfully police ambush. two police officers killed, a third seriously wounded. were they lured in by a suspicious 911 call? >>> the numbers on inflation here in the u.s. the prices you're paying for everything. also, the change to social security payments. and the dow ending the day up. >>> the american airlines flight making an emergency landing. several crew members sickened. >>> the war in ukraine tonight. roughly 40 towns struck in just 24 hours, some with kamikaze

moments such as this one. >> hang mike pence! hang mike pence! hang mike pence! hang mike pence!ng mike pence! >> hang mike pence. testimony suggests that donald trump told aides that perhaps the mob was right. pence should be hanged. and now we must confront the case being made by the committee. that the violence on january 6th was not just an unfortunate happenstance, that it was part of the plan. that it is now a trump tactic. >> there are a lot of members of congress that i think voted against impeachment because they were scared for their families and for themselves. what does that mean, it means threats of violence worked. >> a recent new york times study suggests that in the five years after trump was elected, quote, the number of recorded threats against members of congress increased more than ten fold. against democrats and republicans. and it is not just members of congress. since june of last year, the fbi's new election threat task force has received more than 1000 reports of threats against election workers. election workers! you know, the people, many of them over t

. >> the committee showed new video featuring house speaker nancy pelosi, former vice president mike pence, and other lawmakers in leadership during the attack. >> they are just breaking windows, doing all kinds of -- they said somebody was shot. it is horrendous. all at the instigation of the president of the united states. >> their best information is they believe the house and the senate will be able to -- in roughly an hour. >> still striking to see it again. lawmakers said there are lingering questions about what the secret service feel about the violence and when. joining me to discuss this and more, a national political reporter for the new york times and host of the podcast the run-up. nicholas wu, and joining me here in studio, dan bowles, chief correspondent at the washington post. and congressional correspondent for nbc news. you broke the news that former president trump was going to be subpoenaed by the committee. why are they doing this right now, given they have investigated this and have talked to people for months? >> they have been asking this question for months. once it

then, there is the moment that we are talking about before, which is vice pence -- >> mike pence! ice president pence calls them and gives them, what they describe, is incredibly good news. here is that moment. >> i am literally standing with the u.s. capitol police, and he just informed me, to their best information is that they believe that the house, and the senate, we will be able to reconvene in roughly an hour. >> good news! >> what a moment. what a relief. >> a round of applause for mike pence. >> talk about why that is so important, whether talk about it, nancy pelosi there saying, if they don't get this done -- and i'm paraphrasing. if they don't get this done, it will be that we have failed. it is a complete victory for them. remember, pence refused to leave the capitol. they wanted this image, on behalf of the united states and the world, right now, is happening. they had to stay there, and get the job done. >> they had to do that. >> there is another clip, earlier, where i'm paraphrasing here, there is a show of strength or paraphrasing here, and the continuity to gover

as a christian conservative, vice president mike pence' death example of faith, work and family values has inspired my passion for public service. it is my outer to introduce him. michael r. pence was 40th president -- vice president of prior to the white house, p ence represented indiana in congress and championed educational opportunity and the constitution. in 2012, he was elected governor of indiana. he enacted record tax cuts while increasing school funding, expanding school choice, and creating the first, state-funded pre-k plan in indiana. before public service, vice president pence was host of the mike pence show, a syndicated weekly talkshow and public affairs program. following his remarks, he will take your questions. you can join the conversation on social media by tagging @ geopolitics. today's event is sponsored by young america's foundation. please join me in welcoming to the stage vice president mike pence. [applause] >> usa. >> usa. mr. pence: thank you for that warm welcome. thank you, grace, for that overly generous introduction. good to see so many people tonight. i

[applause] mike pence calling out the students for rejecting someone with a different viewpoint.dents were heard chanting "he has no home here" all demonstrating their hate for mike pence. maybe georgetown needs a course on irony. firing back the activists were proven wrong by mike pence speech within minutes. >> carley: listen to this the professor fired after the student caved to students is telling his side of the story in a "boston globe" op-ed, "i was fired from nyu after the students complaint the class was too hard." next, the professor says "students need to develop the ability to take responsibility for failure. if they continue to deflect blame, they will never grow and everyone hits -- and failure to overcome and improve. failure should be a teachable moment and the teachers must have -- without fear of punishment, to not coddle students for the stake of tuition and apply a little tough love. the question, todd, was the college right to fire him? >> todd: no, not even close. let me explain why, the point of specifically organic chemistry class is to weed out the preten

his crime sitting on mike pence's chair on january 6th.m rioters got that much time from burning down wendy's. - [narrator] if your business kept on employees through the pandemic, getrefunds.com can qualify you for a payroll tax refund of up to $26,000 per employee, even if you got ppp. and all it takes is eight minutes to find out. then we'll work with you to fill out your forms and submit the application. that easy. getrefunds.com has helped businesses like yours claim over $1 billion in payroll tax refunds. but it's only available for a limited time. go to getrefunds.com powered by innovation refunds. tucker a 24-year-old former student was sentenced to 3.5 years in federal prison. that's a long time. even people who commit act of terrorism don't spend that long in jail. he will spend more time behind bars than the two attorneys who fire bombed a police cruiser during the blm riots. why does he have to spend more time behind bars? on january 6th in 2021 he sat down briefly in mike pence's seat. that's it. didn't hurt anyone. for that h

please join me in welcoming to the stage, vice president mike pence. [applause] usa. usa. usa. thank you for that warm welcome and that generous introduction. i am humbled by it. vp pence: it is good to see so many people out tonight and i'm grateful for your time. i want to think a particular young americans foundation at georgetown's institute of public service to allow me to be at this historic institution. the introduction i prefers a little bit shorter. i'm a christian, a conservative and republican in that order and i'm honored to be at georgetown university. [applause] again to the georgetown institute and the young americans foundation taken for the opportunity to be here this evening. vp pence: thank you so very much, for your warm welcome and for your voice on the national stage. i don't agree with your on much but i agree that you are a good man and a good leader. i am grateful for that. we will chat a little bit after my remarks, some of you that know me well know that i like to say, i am a conservative but i'm not a bad mood about it. i love a good debate. i love th

know, how did the secret service perceive this information and what did they do to further protect mike pence? we took those questions to the former secret service. they said pence was ser ccured they're not members of the intel and they assess that as given to them and that information was shared, the reality every law enforcement agency was working from the same intelligence frame work and the -- basically, all came to the same conclusion sadly, the right wot was the re. back to you. >> thank you. >>> new footage exclusively obtained by cnn shows top lawmakers trying to get to the national guard and other federal agencies to respond to the u.s. capitol on january 6th. at one point, senate majority le leader chuck schumer is seen on the phone with the secretary of the army. >> okay. d.c. requested the national guard and it's been denied by d.o.d. i want to know a good god dang reason. apologize. >> don't apologize. >> please, the whole cam pitol ram rampaged. there is a picture of someone sitting in the chair. there are shots fired. we need a full national guard component now. was it denied

the lie is the fraud, the pressure on mike pence is the criminal act, and that is a serious crime. trying to interfere with the lawful transfer of presidential power. i think that cases, there and i think merrick garland will charge it. >> we have a conversation tomorrow morning with michael luttig about that. mike pence is outside with mike alluded to say that the vice president needs a reason to not go ahead with what donald trump is saying and michael luttig stays with a handful of people who stood between very bad things happening in democracy prevailing. barbara, thank you so much for being with us this, morning robin mcquade is a former united states attorney in michigan, professor at the university michigan office cool in an msnbc legal analyst. at the top of the, hour i will speak to the former impeachment minister, representative stacey plaskett, and she will try to connect the dots between the midterms, and why this is a crucial moment for democracy. plus, paying for your lives, alex jones has been ordered to pay nearly billion dollars to the sandy hook victims. what effe

up storming the capitol is chanting hang mike pence, hang mike pence, as they were going through thelways searching for members of congress there. >> one of the details that came out yesterday. ryan, thank you so much. >>> and still ahead right here, president biden hitting the campaign trail in california, trying to give a boost to democrats before the midterms. plus, we're live in wisconsin where a crucial senate race is heating up. the senate candidate might be looking for a boost of his own. what he is hoping to accomplish, and how it could impact senate control. that's next. what will you do? will you make something better? create something new? our dell technologies advisors can provide you with the tools and expertise you need to bring out the innovator in you. ♪♪ subway's drafting 12 new subs for the all-new subway series menu the new monster has juicy steak and crispy bacon. but what about the new boss? it looks so good it makes me hangry! settle down there, big guy the new subway series. what's your pick? ♪ ♪ i'm getting vaccinated with prevnar 20. so am i. because i'm at r

mike pence, run the play. take the football.m the quarterback. >> the votes for president of the united states are as follows. >> pence refused. >> hang mike pence. hang mike pence! >> it could have cost the vice president his life. he fled the congressional chambers down a back staircase as an angry mob searched the building for him. >> stop the steal! stop the steal! >> history will record it as a failed coup. the vice president upheld the constitution, but steve bannon's listeners have a different view. >> on the day that pence could have helped out, which was january 6th, if i'm not mistaken, he proved himself to be an establishment person. he didn't stick up for -- and it changed a lot, including myself. >> he stood up for the constitution. >> he, in my personal, what i took from this is you know what pence isn't the kind of i go that i hoped he was. he's part of the establishment. >> these three women and millions like them are what bannon hopes is the future of the republican party and the united states. bannon calls it t

we all remember the video of hang mike pence, hang mike pence. >> correct. >> that's something i nevercapitol hill. jennifer rogers, i want to get your take on this decision from the appeals court to clear the way it the irs to actually turn over trump's tax returns to house ways and means committee. how significant is this decision? and do you expect the u.s. supreme court will intervene? >> well, it's not a surprise on the law, wolf. this has always been an easy call. the statute has mandatory language that if the committee asks for tax returns that the treasury department shall turn them over. the real question is why it took so long to get to this point, and it points out again, you know, delay is basically justice denied in a lot of cases but particularly where it comes to congress trying to do their oversight work, i do think the former president will appeal to the supreme court because we're a matter of weeks away from the congress expiring and he thinks i think if he gets to the supreme court he'll have at least enough of a delay and he'll know whether the house is going to tur

when asked if he would support trump as a presidential candidate in 2024, mike pence answered, "might be somebody else i prefer more." and actor anna may wong will become the first asian american to be featured on u.s. currency. the newly designed quarters will enter circulation next week. wong was a child of chinese immigrants, born in los angeles in 1905. she acted in over 60 films before her death in 1961. she also was the first american actor of asian descent to play a lead on a tv show. a biographical film of anna may wong is currently in the works. and those are some of the headlines. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. when we come back, as protests in iran into their second month sparked by the death of 22-year-old mahsa amini in the custody of iran's so-called morality police, we will speak with the iranian activist, lawyer, the first female judge in iran, dr. shirin ebadi, the winner of the nobel peace prize in 2003. stay with us. ♪ [music break] amy: this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. today we

when asked if he would support trump as a presidential candidate in 2024, mike pence answered, "might be somebody else i prefer more." and actor anna may wong will become the first asian american to be featured on u.s. currency. the newly designed quarters will enter circulation next week. wong was a child of chinese immigrants, born in los angeles in 1905. she acted in over 60 films before her death in 1961. she also was the first american actor of asian descent to play a lead on a tv show. a biographical film of anna may wong is currently in the works. and those are some of the headlines. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. when we come back, as protests in iran into their second month sparked by the death of 22-year-old mahsa amini in the custody of iran's so-called morality police, we will speak with the iranian activist, lawyer, the first female judge in iran, dr. shirin ebadi, the winner of the nobel peace prize in 2003. stay with us. ♪ [music break] amy: this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. today we

this is mike pence whisked away to safety. doing his job, doing what needs to be done. well, we know, the juxtaposition there of what is happening in that moment versus what we're told the president was doing in that moment, which was sitting back and watching television. you could just weigh in on that for us? >> it is extraordinary. seeing these images really for the first time from inside for the -- of fort mcnair, you see them responding and doing their work. they have a warm conversation with speaker pelosi and mike pence and asked if he's okay and concerned about his safety and calling back to say the capitol will be cleared in an hour. these are government officials doing their job and the president was awol during those hours and we know that from people that work in the west wing, allies of his, said did he not do anything to try to stop the violence in realtime. so i think it is extraordinary to show that much of the government was working, mitch mcconnell, john thune, chuck grassley the republican senators, the top leadership and the top democrats, nance and

one is the genuine level of concern between nancy pelosi and mike pence on the other line about theirafety and the security status of the u.s. capitol. the other is the fact that they were working across party lines at a time when the political partisanship is at an all-time high, working across party lines to make sure they get to vote and certify joe biden's win. third, it's the absence of one individual that does not come up in the any of the video clips. that's donald trump. donald trump did not take any steps to quell the violence that day for 187 minutes, something we've heard repeatedly from the january 6th committee about donald trump's absence. >> even though he wasn't mentioned, he looms large in those videos, because he was the president of the united states. i also want to talk about the secret service and how it is responding to allegations it had advanced information about the potential for violence on january 6th. what are they saying? >> we have obtained new documents from the secret service, including internal communications handed over to the january 6th committee. t

. ♪ >>> after everything that has happened since january 6, would mike pence still support his old bossgain? the former vice president was asked that question after a speech to a conservative group last night. here's what he said. >> mr. pence, if donald trump is the republican nominee for president in 2024, will you vote for him? >> well, there might be somebody else i'd prefer more. what i can tell you is i have every confidence that the republican party will sort out leadership. all my focus has been on the midterm elections, and it will stay that way the next 20 days but after that, we'll be thinking about the future, ours and the nation's. and i'll keep you posted. okay? >> joining us now are polster and cnn political commentator, scott jennings and also nia-malika henderson. christian, what a moment to hear him say that. scott, what did you think about it? >> on the one hand, you know, donald trump did send a mob to kill him, so i can understand why he might not want to commit to voting for him. >> hasn't stopped kevin mccarthy. >> they weren't there chanting hang kevin mccarthy.

so, they all agree that the only person they can really turn to right now is not trump, it's mike pencee we have this sort of clear the capitol order. it's sort of the backstory of how pence got to that moment. it's because hill leaders together were pleading with him to do something. >> and it's a powerful read. it's a powerful moment. ultimately, it raises even more questions. >> yeah. >> about the path they're on. ladies, congratulations on the book. we'll leave it there and be right back. when you humble yourself under the mighty hand of god, in due time he will exalt you. hi, i'm joel osteen. i'm excited about being with you every week. i hope you'll tune in. you'll be inspired, you'll be encouraged. i'm looking forward to seeing you right here. you are fully loaded and completely equipped for the race that's been designed for you. >>> we want to take a closer look now at the georgia senate race, one of those key races that could decide which party controls the senate. nikole killion reports from athens. >> reporter: saturdays in the south are meant for college football. but it was

, the vice president but a public servant there worried about mike pence because mike pence took the principal position i'm not leaving the capitol for the same reason she wanted to get back to work, for the signal it would send to the people who stormed it. >> i remember that was one of the real concerns, that they were not able to finish the certification that day and had to delay it to another day, would that be considered an unconstitutional action or could that potentially give some of these opponents an effort to try to challenge it in the courts. that was certainly one of the things they were weighing and trying to push to make sure this happened on that day. this footage and leaders were trying to get help as dana described but there was -- every other member of congress was not in that secure location at fort mcnair. they were in the capitol and a number of house members sheltered hiding under their seats as there was an armed standoff trying to get into the house floor, senators eventually made it to a secure location within the capitol complex itself. so it was just harrow

i was mike pence's homeland security adviser. was almost shot in that walmart in el paso when that shooter drove ten hours based on some great replacement theory, it was certainly an attack based on the presidents motives and what he had been pushing. when i raised it in the white house, i had to be very careful and how i was going to present the case and evidence on this. i knew i was walking into a situation that was not welcomed. i certainly saw other people at my home department my, department of homeland security, where we have these conversations about this increasing. it was a domestic threat. it continues to rise. this was not something that was going to be addressed in the trump white house. let's be honest, he used a lot of these groups that post is kind of rhetoric, that subscribe to these theories of january 6th. he called them his supporters. >> i had a fascinating conversation yesterday with former republican conversation denver riggleman. here is what he said he would ask trump if he actually showed up to answer th

hang mike pence!lear that it was escalating, and escalating quickly. >> hang mike pence! hang mike pence! >> so then we got to, hang mike pence tweet, was sent out, i remember us saying that that was the last thing that we needed to be tweeted at that point. the situation was already bad. so it's not like he was pouring gasoline on the fire by hanging tweeting that. >> it wasn't two hours after that after the crowd luckily couldn't find a vice president pence to hang him, that the crowd went home. and that is because president trump tweeted a video telling them to go home. president trump's twitter account was a bully pulpit in the hands of a real bully. and it had a significant impact on the real world. there were trump's early years on twitter, where he repeatedly spread misinformation that president obama wasn't born in the united states. by the time trump was elected, that's a little piece of misinformation had convinced 72% of registered republican voters to doubt president obama's citizenship. o

it further inflamed the mob which was chanting "hang mike pence," and provoked them to even greater violence. this deliberate decision to further enrage the mob against vice president pence cannot be justified by anything that president trump might've thought about the election. the tweet came precisely at the time pence's secret service detail was most seriously concerned for the vice president's physical safety. we've obtained new documents from the secret service, real-time chats that underscore the threat they knew vice president would be facing because of the presidents escalating incitement of the mob. after trump's tweet, one agent in the secret service intelligence division immediately warned, "potus just tweeted about pence, probably not going to be good for pence." another agent reported the dramatic impact of trump's anti-pence tweet on his followers. "potus said he lacked courage, over 24,000 likes in under two minutes." employees at twitter were nervously monitoring the situation. they knew that certain twitter users were rioting at the capitol and tweeting about it at the same

it is looking more and more difficult to actually do that. >> scott mcclain, thank you. >>> mike pencewhile speaking at georgetown university last night. the former vice president taking questions from students and explaining the art of the dodge. >> mr. pence, if donald trump is the republican nominee for president in 2024, will you vote for him? >> well, there might be somebody else i'd prefer more. you know, what i can tell you, i have every confidence that the republican party is going to sort out leadership. my focus has been on the mid-term elections and it will stay that way for the next 20 days. after that we'll be thinking about the future, ours and the nation's. i can tell you, whatever the future holds, for me and for karen pence, it'll be our heart's desire just to reflect at the right time, maybe in the months ahead to determine what our calling is and we'll follow that calling come what may. >> i don't know. pence is widely speculated to be laying the groundwork for a 2024 run. he has made frequent visits to early primary states, giving speeches and campaigning in iowa, n

hidden under the word of threat can be understood if you study the biographies of two pompeo mikes and pencein the fact that before being elected director of the cia, mike pompeo was engaged in business, more precisely, in the oil business, he was the president of a company in the center of international that supplied equipment to the texas company koch industries, famous for numerous scandals in the oil business, including in iran the supply of equipment to the iranian plant zagros petra chemical mike pence was known before the vice presidency as a successful lobbyist for the interests of chevron oil companies, and their dream, mobile the latter had a branch in iraq ex-son, mobile and round, and sulimonone actively fought against the influence of american corporations on the iranian oil industry. that's the whole rebus, it seems that somewhere we have already seen it correctly. the americans tried, uh, to find some indirect ways. e. influence on iranian oil production and delivery of iranian oil through the territory of iraq and through the territory of syria and, in general, achieved some

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it's insane. >> mike pence will not stick up for donald trump. mike pence, trader! trader! us. in case you haven't heard yet. >> what happened? what happened? >> i keep hearing that mike pence got us. that's the word. i keep hearing reports that mike pence has screwed us. >> between 2:30 and to 35, within ten minutes of president trump's tweet, thousands of rioters over randy line that the metropolitan police force civil disturbance unit was holding on the west side of the capitol. this was the first time in the history of the metropolitan police department that a security line like that had ever been broken. president trump's conduct that day was so shameful and is so outrageous that it prompted numerous members of the white house staff and other trump appointees to resign. prior hearings you heard deputy national security adviser met pottinger and deputy white house secretary sarah matthews, explain why they felt compelled to resign on that day. since then, we spoken to more high-ranking officials, like president trump's envoy to northern ireland and former chief of staff

let's start with mike pence. what do you think of this latest answer and what are you hearing about what his possible lane is in the republican presidential primary? >> well, look, the former vice president wants to run for president. you could see it there. there would be someone else would you prefer. but a good follow-up might have but if not you, is donald trump your second choice. look, the reality here is that the divide between the former vice president and the former president is well-known right now at this point. but it is hard to see much of a lane for former vice president mike pence. yes, he's out there campaigning aggressively on the midterm election cycle, he's very popular in some conservative circles. but if the former president jumped in, it is hard to imagine that mike pence could suddenly leap frog over some of the other potential 2024 stars like ron desantis, nikki haley, the list goes on and on. so i think he'll be in the mix but it is hard to imagine him finding a very specified lane. but w

and apparently, all mike pence needed to do was that. it gave him the authority to do the right thing, the lawful thing. but we all know what happens next. on wednesday, january 6th, then vp pence bucks donald j trump and certifies the election for the rightful winner, joseph r. biden. pence released a statement citing luttig legal analysis and the next day judge luttig was sitting at cited cvs and his car in vail, colorado when he got a call from an unlisted number. it was vice president mike pence calling to thank him. he might not have known how meaningful his first set of tweets wherever going to be. but judge michael luttig gave pence the legal cover to defy donald trump and refused to overturn the election. this action alone may have saved democracy, for the moment. when john eastman suggested that pence had the power to overturn the election and throw the disputed electoral votes, eastman reference what they called the electoral count act. you've heard about it before. judge luttig, in his advice to mike pence, refuted easements mi