chairman and also with a former cia spokesperson. >> mike rogers is leaving congress, giving up hisition as chair of the house intelligence committee. he was with candy crowley last sunday. he said there would be violence and deaths of americans as a result of the release of this report. we're going to follow up with him on that. bill harlow, who is the spokesman for the cia when george tenna was the cia director, we're going to have an extensive conversation with him as well. we're getting reaction to the extraordinary news conference that you and i covered at the cia with the director, john brennan. >> wolf, thank you very much. >>> in our buried lead, a t-reactit-rex in the u.s. how one man involved in the story ended up in prison. y use helps you be ready anytime the moment is right. cialis is also the only daily ed tablet approved to treat symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as it may cause an unsa

itself and any intelligence or security failures leading up to the attack. >> in fact, charles, mike rogersls the caucus early on that benghazi is over. that he is done with it and thinks the caucus should move on. now this leads up to the benghazi select committee with trey gowdy that is continuing next week. >> he is leaving the congress. it is over for him. he left a mess behind. look, this wasn't only a scandal.nd a crime. there are people here whose reputations are at stake. and there are people whose reputations are being protected. i think the only time we will learn about how that is why it is is when gowdy has his committee hearings and issues his report. until then, we are not going to know. >> make sure to read steve's piece in the "weekly standard" tomorrow. stay tuned for a farewell of one of fox news channel's finest. depositions warrant your personal interevenings. >> we have had the honor and privilege to work alongside a true pro- >> wendell goler live on the north lawn. thank you. >> today, his last day, before a well deserved retirement, wendell was in the front row again

congress chairman of the house intelligence committee representative mike rogers. >> the problem is, charlie, all of this has been debated. so over a decade ago this program ended. there's been lots of public reports of the ambassador pickering did a 600 page review of this. that's public. the dent of justice found no wrongdoing. getting westerners and americans hurt. >> rose: we conclude with the conversation of cuba with william leogrande and peter kombluh. >> at the very beginning for the u.s. to coexist with fidel castro's revolution. we had an ambassador who worked very hard in 1959 and 1960 to see if he could findÑi common ground for co-existence. that didn't work. bonds were broken. after the missile crises there was an opportunity because the cubans were upset with the soviet union and president kennedy opened secret channels to see if there was a possibility of normalization. that dialogue ended with kennedy's assassination. >> rose: mike rogers, william leogrande and peter kombluh when we continue. >> rose: additional funding provided by: >> and by bloomberg, a provider of

lives, independent senator angus king who supports its release and house intelligence committee mike rogers on the report's long term impact. and as always, analysis from an all-star panel. 60 years of news because this is "face the nation." captioning sponsored by cbs good morning, reading the cia report and its details of waterboarding and even more ghastly practices was not for the timid or feint of heart. and republican senator john mcdatabase who was a prisoner of war for five and half years in vietnam brings a unique perspective also author of new book "13 soldiers" personal history of americans at war. senator, welcome to the broadcast. let me just begin by asking you the question that troubles me the most about this, highway is it that reasonable people so many reasonable people could come to such opposite conclusions about this report and what it brought to light. what do you make of that? >> i make of it a whole range of motives from people who were so understandably alarmed and angered by the attacks of 9/11 that their first motivation is do whatever is necessary to make sure the

mike rogers was very forceful yesterday on "state of the union" right here on cnn saying that releasing this report will be very, very dangerous. listen to this. >> our foreign partners are telling us this will cause violence and deaths. our own intelligence community has assessed that this will cause violence and deaths. >> we also know that john kerry personally phoned dianne feinstein, the chair of the intelligence committee, saying don't release this report right now. the timing could be awful for the u.s. what are you hearing from your former colleagues there at the cia? >> well, they don't believe, wolf, that it should be released at all. they believe it should be a secret program set up at the white house department of justice, they did what they were told to do and the details should never have gotten out. if anything, it's a military tri tribunal and whether it's going to cause death and violence, that's unknown at this point but it's going to look bad for the united states government. i think what the people are saying is, listen, the department of justice said this is legal.

. >> straight ahead mike rogers sending a rise about the rise of terrorism.blaming president is he blaming president obama. [ breathing deeply ] [ inhales deeply ] [ sighs ] [ inhales ] [ male announcer ] at cvs health, we took a deep breath... [ inhales, exhales ] [ male announcer ] and made the decision to quit selling cigarettes in our cvs pharmacies. now we invite smokers to quit, too, with our comprehensive program. we just want to help everyone, everywhere, breathe a little easier. introducing cvs health. because health is everything. >>> disturbing warning from mike rogers saying president obama is not doing enough toe>0é combat terrorism and the terror threat is as high today as has been at any time since before 9/11. >> the threat matrix i have never seen as bad as i see it today. i have been on this committee for a decade. i have never seen it sor7v,ç ba. why? because you have more streams of individuals who are associated with radical islam who are saying that they either an aspiration or a capability to do attacks in the west. >> and lt. colonel o

mike rogers just referred to them as well. if this were still a practice going on that dianne feinstein was determined to take risks to stop, that would be one thing. but this stuff was all discontinued seven years ago. president obama with his, you know, fathomless, you know, overwhelming self-regard was saying he stopped it, but it stopped before he took office. >> so what is this? >> they'd been doing these techniques for years. >> is this orthodoxy that's too tempting to review the since, if you consider this a sin, committed by some in this country and any chance to be exploited? >> look, dianne feinstein is a highly respected member of the senate and with good reason. she's been one of the senate's grown-ups, respected on both sides of the aisle for many years now. this is unlike her, the dianne feinstein we've known. the only thing i can say about it is she's mad at the cia over alleged spying on her staff while they were compiling this report, but she's been mad at the cia for a while. i don't say she did this in quite

we'll talk with congressman mike rogers, chair of the house intelligence committee in a moment. but first, fox news chief intelligent correspondent catherine brings us up to date. >> the sony attack is believed to be the first time destructive malware targeted a corporation in the u.s. and hackers physically destroy data and systems. similar to the hack on banks with the sony attack led the fbi to conclude north korea was a principle in both. a bureau statement reads north korea's actions were intended to inflict significant harm on a u.s. business. the president went further saying sony was wrong to pull the movie "the interview" starring james franco and seth rogen because it silenced free speech. >> i'm sympathetic to the concerns that they faced. having said all that, yes, i think they made a mistake. or even worse imagine if producers and distributors and others start engaging in self-censorship. >> sony's president said they had few options after theaters started dropping out. a petition by actor george clooney to support sony and the film's release failed to gather signat

we turn to the chairman of the house in tell begins committee, mike rogers.ding congress i must say congressman we're sorry to see you go you have the respect of people on both sides of the aisle. we wish you well. i want to ask you about this report. you said, you didn't want this report released. you said in the beginning that you were worried it would lead to violence and death. what exactly do you mean by that? >> well, the reason i came to that conclusion because that's what foreign leaders told us who were engaged in trying to get their country's stabilized they believed it would incite violence in their particular countries. we had foreign intelligence services say they believe it would incite violence in their countries including attacks against u.s. embassies or u.s. personnel. our own intelligence services issued an analytical report that believed it would cause and lead to violence. and likely death i based my conclusion on all of that. what i argued was the information. >> schieffer: so far so good. obviously you and i both hope that that doesn't

we'll ask the chair of the house intelligence committee, mike rogers, who says we need much stronger fire walls against this growing threat. >>> then, the u.s. and cuba end a cold war that lasted half a century. >> suddenly, cuba is open to the world in ways that it has not been before. >> this president has to be the worst negotiator we've ever had, and he has betrayed, betrayed those cubans that have work sod hard and have sacrificed so much. >> two members of the senate foreign relations committee will debate the president's opening to cuba. republican ron johnson and democrat ben cardin. >>> plus, jeb bush moves one giant step closer to running for president. how does his early announcement shift the landscape for 2016? our sunday group weighs in. all right now on "fox news sunday" >>> and hello again from fox news in washington. first some breaking news. a gunman has shot and killed two new york city police officers execution-style after vowing on social media to retaliate for the deaths of michael brown and eric garner. our fox news correspondent has the latest from new york. b

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do not blame committee chair mike rogers and the ranking member. they did try.worked together bipartisan. they worked together to get the house to pass the cyber intelligence sharing and protection act aimed at strengthening cyber security and preventing attacks. the government gives a damn about protecting us and cares. the house cares and passed a bill. the senate intelligence committee did try. he tried to kill any effort in the senate. so then president obama stepping in and help? nope. he didn't get senator reid to put it up for a senate that house bill. where is the leadership? easy answer. awol. there is no negotiating, no deal. let me get this straight. the president can talk to and even cut a deal with cuba and castro, the communists, but not with capitol hill to protect us from a cyber attack? too hard? you know that's all messed up. and that's my off the record comment tonight. coming up, super bowl winning quarterback has a message for president obama and the president may not like it. what's the message? that's next. s in. only nicorette gum has pat

mike rogers is calling the report's release a terrible idea. leaders are warning that the release of the report could cause violence and deaths. now lots of countries cooperated with the u.s. in the war on terror at some political the risk. they rely on american discretion. if that report is released, there is a concern it could deter u.s. allies in the global coalition against isis because they fear terrorist reprisals. john and christine. >> thank you, elise labott. the white house acknowledges that the american personnel in the muslim world are at risk as the report comes out at 11:00 a.m. eastern time. cnn's ian lee is in egypt. ian, you have a sense if officials at the u.s. embassy are concerned about the report and how they are preparing for the release. >> reporter: john, as we heard, thousands of marines across the middle east ready to deploy within hours if a mission is under threat. i talked to the officials here. they will not comment on security, but the u.s. embassy is a fortress. it is not out of the realm of the possibility an at

mike rogers is calling the report's release a terrible idea. in addition to the intelligence assessment, foreign leaders are warning the release of the report could cause violence and deaths. lots of countries cooperated with the u.s. in the war on terror at some political risk. they rely on american discretion. if that report is released, there is a concern it could deter u.s. allies in the global coalition. john and christine. >>> american personnel and facilities in the muslim world are at risk as the report comes out this morning. some allies are thought to be especially concerned about the public reaction. cnn's ian lee is in egypt. ian, how is the u.s. embassy reacting there and how are they preparing? >> reporter: as we heard, john, thousands of marines ready to deploy within hours if any of the diplomatic missions come under attack. the u.s. embassy, they told me they are not commenting on the security measures. there is tight security around the u.s. embassy. you may remember back in 2012, the perimeter of the u.s. embassy was breached

do you trust mike rogers on this?> mike rogers is a friend and has been good on national security. when it came to overseeing the characteristics a's involvement, i have always been concerned the people in charge of overseeing are too close to the people they are supposed to be reporting on. i think you see defensive behavior on the part of the house armed services committee trying to protect their link and i'm worried about relationships of how staffers in terms of where they went after they left the committee. that's why we need to start over. look at it jointly where you have a joint committee, a select committee looking at it together. bill: there is one more investigation still open in the house. gowdy is part of it. how long before we get answers from that committee. >> i hope the senate will join trey. bill: do you think mitch mcconnell will approve that? >> i hope so. trey gowdy and elijah cummings have done this country a good service. how can you close the books on benghazi when you never talked to susan ric

mike rogers and -- republican and democrat. they had all this. concerned for a long time.they at least did something. the president and senator harry reid did not. >> there's been a lot of concern on capitol hill. hearings, legislation. people have been waving their arms about this. of course the public hasn't been super aware of this until now. this was a big wake-up call. there's been a discussion about this in january when congress returns. and you probably will see -- the white house now needs congress's help on this because he's put himself in a situation where people are going to expect the president to do something. he said they're going to respond. but what they going to do to north korea really? >> here's what's troubling, is he doesn't adjust his foreign policy and realize isis is serious out there until we have a beheaded american. so that was a little late to wake up to that. everybody else knew. now you've got a situation where there are people talking about cyberwarfare and this is a real problem and once again he didn't wake up until it became a real problem

." >> joining me is a mike rogers. he has represented the eighth congressional district and is chair of the house committee intelligence. overseeinge he is investigations into some of the most urgent matters. , he will leave and join cumulus. i am pleased to have him back on this program. welcome. >> see why so much. >> let's begin. why are you leaving the congress? is one of those opportunities to have a broader voice and reach millions of people a week. that part was attractive and the dicky, the ceo of cumulus sold me, i need a guy with your experience on the radio talking. that sold it to me and allows me to branch out. congress can be a frustrating place to work sometimes. sometimes the politics are so small you wonder if we will ever be able to solve these issues. i thought maybe it was my chance to broaden the discussion and include more and put the pressure on congress to get down to the major issues. >> how will it be different from other talk radio programs like rush limbaugh or others? >> here's the good new

. >> look, mike rogers, in that committee, has a habit of dumping this out when everyone is looking over elsewhere. >> well, no, at least folks are talking about it now when it was dumped around thanksgiving when the preliminary report was released on july 31st. everyone else was focused on ted cruz and the chaos he was causing in the house. >> let me draw the picture. they're debating. can e candy crawley is moderating. what about benghazi? that's right. that's right. well, actually, there wasn't any dishonesty. what happens then? >> well, then, the republican party will have to deal with it. but, as we know, couldn't care less about what this report says. >> the moderator will straighten it out. >> that's why the republican leadership has trey gowdy out there looking for something to be able to counter the mike rogers' report. >> they have to reauthorize it for the next congress. and they're absolutely going to stretch this out as long as they can. >> did you ever play basketball, shooting baskets, i'm going home, in the dark, after shooting ten in a row. they're going to stay all nigh

and we were very, very detailed in what we told mike rogers and the entire committee except for adamt, he didn't bother to show up for the testimony. >> what disappointed you in terms of the way your testimony was presented or the facts that you provided? >> well, they weren't prioritized. you think they would have been. our testimony from the report was downplayed in lieu of all the staffers that were there. everybody that didn't take part in benghazi or even wasn't 1,000 miles from benghazi. their views were taken over ours. which is shameful. >> why do you think this happened? why do you think after all the testimony, all the investigation, that this is what has come out at this point? >> well, you know, there's been open source stuff on mike rogers and his wife's relationship with aegis and conflicts at the state department. there was an election going on. al qaeda was on the run. there's an election that we had -- had to maintain a certain agenda to win. i'm not privy and i never saw arms being trafficked but there's reports of arms being trafficked to syria, which could have le

speaking at a criticized monitor doesets, residents represent a mike rogers. -- representative mike rogers. this is an hour. >> ok, will get started. some folks will join us in progress, as they say. thank you for coming. our guess is representative mike rogers. this is his second visit. he was here in june. we thank him for coming back. the army, he in became an fbi special agent, specializing in corruption cases in chicago. he returned to michigan in 1994 and was elected to the state senate. rising to the, majority floor leader. in 2000, he won a hotly contested race. he was reelected six times. he became chair of the house intelligence committee and 2010. in march, he announced he would leave at the end of the current session to host a radio show for cumulus. now on to the process of our progress. we are on the record. no live tweeting or filing while the preface is underway. so we have time to listen to what our guest is saying. if you would like to ask a question, please do the traditional think as it a subtle signal and i will call one and all. we will allow the guest to have opening

republican incumbent mike rogers warned it could create a backlash. >> our foreign reports have report thad this will cause violence and death. we've seen what happens when others are used. >> only democratic members of the senate committee are signing off on the report's release. senator dianne feinstein told the "los angeles times" the report needs to get out. in august president obama says he supports the release. >> we did a whole lot of things that were right, but we tortured some folks. we did some things that were contrary to our value. >> but the cia and rbs on the committee are expected to file rebuttals. michael hayden who ran the cia for part of the time in question defended the agency on "face the nation." >> to say thatrelentlessly lied other a piered you of time, that begs the imagination. >> senator john kerry has asked senator feinstein to delay the release of the report. if it's not leads, it may not see the light of day. >> susan mcginnis in washington. susan, thank you. meanwhile six former guantanamo bay prisoners are beginning new lives in uruguay this morning. all

those concerns were echoed by republican congressman mike rogers, the outgoing chair of the house intelligence committee. >> i think this is a terrible idea. so our foreign partners are telling us this will cause violence and deaths. our foreign leaders have approached the government, you do this, this will cause violence and deaths. our own intelligence community has assessed that this will cause violence and deaths. think of the cartoons in denmark and how many people died as a result. think of the burning of the korans and how many people died as a result. they will use this to incite violence. >> former cia director michael hayden is speaking out, denying they lied about the enhanced interrogation techniques. we will be on that on morning joe. >>> a massive typhoon in the philippines, now heading to the capital. the death toll has been minimal, with at least three people confirmed dead. more than a million people on the move seeking shelters in churches and schools. homes have been washed away. flood waters continue to rise. more than 30 million people have been affected by this storm so f

congresswoman mike rogers then-congressman mike rogers said because of the attack on the company thece, this is a nation state attack on the united states. but an end of 2014 in iraq isis appeared to be in a standoff against iraqi forces helped by american air power which the u.s. used against isis and syria. in the ukraine the government horrible forces in the east and russian backers were bogged down in negotiations to end the conflict but it was the acting of sony that was the most sensational national security threat to the u.s.. wasn't just about the movie or its studio but the vulnerability of the u.s. financial system, telephone networks, electric grids, defense systems and more to cyberattack and the u.s. government and u.s. companies are on notice and on guard going into 2015. dave: thank you very much. i just went to see a movie over the weekend, unbroken a pretty good movie but there was a trailer for a film about terrorists using cyberat tax to cause physical harm and death. will we see that? >> i saw that. that could be the next level but if you think of it what is the a

east earn followed at 2:00 by "fox news sunday" with mike rogers, talking about north korea and sony entertainment. and then senate ron johnson, a republican from wisconsin and senator ben cardin, a maryland democrat will be talking about u.s./cuba relations. cnn's "state of the union" at 3:00 p.m. and today, an interview on cuba and north korean hacking and, also, threats. also, arizona republican senator john mccain. at 41:00 eastern, "face the nations" and another appearance by senator prub yes and lindsey gram a south carolina republican, member of the armed services committee and chris van holland, a maryland democrat and a national correspondent for the "atlantic." the sunday network t.v. talk shows are on c-span radio. they are brought to you by a public service by the networks. the reair of the 5 t.v. network talk shoes again at noon eastern. listen on 90.1 fm here in the washington, d.c. area. across the country on xm satellite you channel 120. download our free app for you're smart phone or go online to c-span.org. >> this month is the tenth anniversary of our sunday prime

sreenivasan: in a separate interview, the republican chairman of the house intelligence committee, mike rogers described the incident as a nation-state attack and said the president could have retaliated already. >> the problem here was not the fact that we didn't have the capability to do something nearly in immediate time, we just didn't get a decision from the present of the united states. >> sreenivasan: five c.i.a. employees, being investigated for secretly searching computers used by senate intelligence committee staffers, reportedly will not be punished. this, according to the "new york times." at the time, the senate staffers werinvestigating the c.i.a., and its interrogation and detention programs after the september 11th attacks. the tentative decision was reached by a panel headed by evan bayh, the former democratic senator from indiana. documents suggest the c.i.a. employees, in some instances, were acting at the behest of c.i.a. director john brennan who appointed the members of the panel instigating the c.i.a.'s actions. the united stes tay struck isis targets in iraq and syria.

republican mike rogers chairman of the house intelligence committee warned the report could create anti-american backlash. >> our foreign partners are telling us this will cause violence and death. we have seen what happens when other incidents are used in the propaganda terrorist machine to insight violence. >> in today's "washington post," jose rodriguez, who once ran the cia's enhanced interrogation seogram, said the committee's findings were an attempt to rewrite history. "the reports leaked conclusion is an egregious falsehood" he wrote but in august president obama said he supports its release. >> there are a whole lot of things that were right, but they tortured some folks. we did some things that were contrary to our values. >> on "face the nation," former cia director michael hayden who ran the agency for part of the time in question said the program proved its worth and that the cia did not mislead congress. >> to say that we relentlessly over, over an expanded period of time lied to everyone about a program that wasn't doing any good, that does doesn't even fit in the imagination. >>

. >> during the house subcommittee i looked at mike rogers in the eye and i said if we had not been delayed which we were, three times we would have saved the ambassador's wife and john smith's life and i will go on the record again to say that again that i have said multiple times what he cannot with the report he did i don't know what to tell you. what we said in the book is what happened on the ground and that is the truth as far as bookselling i do have my own business i don't need this money we did not do this to sell a book but tell the truth we also deployed one year after that waiting for the administration to come forward and they didn't simply made a decision as a team to come forward to tell the truth so you had your opinion if you are entitled to that and i respect that the book is the truth. bottom line. >> had we stayed working we could make more money working and what we could selling this book. we did it to honor the four guys who died there. there were not honored we were in montana the same thing happened afire man from los angeles built a monument because he felt there no

. >> guest: man, during the house until subcommittee, i looked at mike rogers in the eye and i said if we would've not been delayed, which we were delayed three times, that we would have saved the ambassador's life. i will go on record again with whoever wants to talk to me a news media organizations and say that again, which i said multiple times. why he came out with the force he did, i don't know what to say. you'll have to ask him. what we said in the book is what happened on the ground and that is the truth. as far as bookselling, i do have my own business on the side. i don't need the bookselling business. we didn't do this to sell the book. we did it for the truth. we also deployed a year after that, waiting for the adni

you cannot have enough mike rogers in the national security space. we appreciate you appearing before us today. as the congress comes to a close i want to take this opportunity to talk to the american people one more time about one of the most significant national threats that we facefelt i was a member before many years before i became chairman and i had the opportunity to see the cyber threats grow in volume. as i took the gavel as committee chairman in 2011 i was determined to do what i could do to help american companies deal with these threats. we sat down to address the measure. start talking publicly in as great a detail as possible in countries like china and iran. i wanted to raise awareness to companies being targeted and advance the debate about what the american government needs to do to address the threats. the highlight of the effort was the october 2011 open hearing on cyber where both ranking member and i called out chinese government for industrial sized campaign for cyber economic e e espionage. the united states was unwilling to ca

. >> next, has representative mike rogers discusses security issues. then a program on security fence post by isis. and then we will look at constitutional powers and how they compare to actions taken by the president. when the new congress convenes in january, republicans will hold their largest majority in the house since the 1928 election with 240 seven members compared to 180 eight democrats. the senate, also under republican control will have 54 republicans in contrast to 44 democrats and 10 independents. one member who will not be returning is republican representative mike rogers of michigan. he spoke earlier this month about national security issues. this is an hour. >> ok, we'll get started. some folks will join us in progress, as they say. thank you for coming. our guests is representative mike rogers. this is his second visit. he was here in june. we thank him for coming back. our guest grew up in michigan and graduated from adrian college there. after serving in the army, he became an fbi special agent, specializing in corruption cases in c

. >> republican congressman mike rogers shared the house intelligence committee is warning the polices dangerous from the u.s. and allies. >> our former partners will cause violence and deaths. our foreign leaders who approach the government and say you do this, this will cause violence and deaths. our own intelligence kmun tie has assessed that this will cause violence and deaths. nbc reports that friday, secretary kerry calls to the release department today. he made it clear the choice was senator finestein. it was voted out in 2012. it's with the administration. with the administration trying to keep the report from being declassified to the extent that senator finestein wanted. >> so my understanding of the main point of contention of this has been the fight is over. whether you use essentially pseudonyms for certain people that appear in different places throughout the report so you have some sort of narrative sense. this person, this operator was doing this in afghanistan and later doing this and obviously, don't use a real name, use a fake name. and the c.i.a. is saying ha is e

peter cook spoke with the retiring house intelligence committee, mike rogers, earlier report.out the you have foreign leaders expressing concern that they believe it will incite violence, you have foreign liaison partners in the intelligence community all over the world saying that we think this could incite violence, cause huge cooperationn stop moving forward with united states, and our own intelligence community assessing that it could incite violence, that is a pretty good indicator that maybe we should not release the report. all of the things we are worried about with interrogations have been debated and solved. there is a department of justice investigation into this. there has not been a use of torture as defined by this report in over 10 years. and if we know what the consequences are -- remember, what they did with terrorist groups, they used the propaganda, the cartoons in the newspaper, the burning of the koran, why would we do it today? >> senator feinstein wants to release this report and says the reason to do it is because you want this out there so that americans know

mike rogers, chairman of the house intelligence committee said that made eight nation-state attack onnited states. by end of 2014 in iraq, isis appeared to be a standoff against iraqi forces helped by american air power. the air power u.s. also used against isis in syria. in ukraine government in kiev and rebel forces in the east, and russian backers were bogged down in negotiations to end the conflict there. it was hacking of sony pictures appeared to be the most sensational national security threat to the u.s. this year. it wasn't just about the movie. it wasn't just about a studio. it was about the vulnerability of the u.s. financial system, telephone networks, electric grids, defense systems and more to cyberattack. >> what is important is the lesson here. that if north korea can do this, so can virtually any other competent group, whether it is a foreign government or a group of terrorists or simply a group of criminals. >> so the u.s. government and u.s. companies are on notice and on guard for cyber attacks for 2015. adam? adam: we'll be watching that to see if that is the big

speaker, and i want to congratulate the previous speaker, my friend from michigan , mike rogers, for his distinguished service to this nation and to this congress. i had the privilege of meeting mike when he first became a member of this house and i to ber his exuberance nything he displayed the hopeful look in his eye, and i atched him as he has matured into a great legislative leader and a leader for the nation. paradox of our in on is probably existed i was kind of inerested, to say the least, finding that mike rogers was a former c.i.a. agent. and just -- i had to process that in a rather unique way. i had not known many f.b.i. agents prior to shaking hands those that i did know, i had questions about their character and their qualities. o i was somewhat quizzical and interested in this. ands alistened to his final speech -- and as i listened to his final speech before the house, the thought occurred to certainlye part of me a eed with his notion of nation that represents so much .ope to the rest of the world , t i also, to be quite honest the america that has not even greater yet

. >> clearly when mike rogers talked about this fact that the chinese, one or two other countries are using techniques to get inside the wire of our grid control systems, you know, not acting would be an enormous disaster for american people. and in fact i must tell you, frank, you know, fox just reported mary landrieu lost in louisiana. i think part of her loss -- and i sat in a hearing in washington, d.c. and watched her, you know, support the local power companies, oh, everything is okay, and shame on you for even talking about it. i think that's part of the reason she lost. >> well, i think it should be, if it weren't. it should be. i hope this is a marker down with people like lisa murkowski who will be the chairman of the energy committee in the next congress. she was at that hearing, as you know. she was the ranking republican and she went along with the idea that the only thing we need to be concerned about is keeping the american people from knowing about this vulnerability. that's wrong. i hope every one of those members of congress, senators mostly are on notice. they need

we'll ask the chair of the house intelligence committee mike rogers who

mike rogers, house of the intelligence committee, says there will be violence and deaths as a result to release all this information. your response to these officials, these cabinetadminis? >> number one, they're right to raise the threat level. but listen, we've learned that isis doesn't need an excuse to attack america. that's what they do, that's what their predecessors have done for ten years. if we say, we're not going to release information to the american people and the world because we're afraid somebody else is going to misinterpret it, that would lock up our entire effort to inform our public. the other piece is, it's not the report that's likely to inflame people. it's what was done. and that's why we've got to say we're not going to do this again. the damage to this country, as john mccain made clear in one of the most brilliant and powerful speeches i've ever heard in the senate, he said the damage to the country that's been done by this far outweighs any benefit that we got. >> are you concerned that americans might die because this report was released? >> of course, i'

he will talk to mike rogers about the latest fallout with sony and potential cyber attacks on american companies by north korea. >> allen gross may be home after serving five years behind bars in cuba. he set up internet access to the small jewish population. and the questions remain over the new policy. chris van halland was a law maker who travelled with mr. gross on the 757 that returned from sha havana yesterday. and he released throw of the so- called cuba five. there were spois released here including one serving life sentences in connection with the humanitarian mission on 1996. four anti- castro activist were killed in that. ncongressman, was it a good deal? >> yes, it was a good deal in many respects. allen gross was freed after five years in prison. but the exchange for the cuban prisoners including the one with a life sentence, was the release of a u.s. intelligence agent who was in prison in cuba for 20 years and wasted away the rest of his life in the cuban prison. this is an individual who provided very important intelligence information to the united states. information

. >> mike rogers, house intelligence committee tried to pass bills to get people to concentrate on for years. we now learned that sony knew they were being hacked months and months ago, if not last year. one of the biggest problems here, melissa is, look, people open emails. they hit a link. that is how the malware gets in. that is how hackers get. [people should know that. these companies are all so busy they don't concentrate on the vulnerabilities that they have, is something you do tomorrow the then get hit today and you've got a problem like this. melissa: what do we do now though? hackers are out there threatening people that go to the movie theater see this movie. they're threatening, using the name 9/11. go ahead. >> for sony i would just point out, for sony things go from bad to worse. the pictures business was really only part of the their business that was working and making money. that obviously suffered reputational damage. would you have thought one small silver lining this film would have done a big number because people would have been curious. this makes that even less

. >> mike rogers, the chairman of the house intelligent committee told candy crowley yesterday, mike rogers made it clear there will be violence and there will be deaths as a result of the release of this report. so what you're saying is the secretary of state is ready to accept that threat? >> again, this is a decision timing wise that the committee's undertaken. it's going to be released tomorrow, according to our indications. and this administration supports the release of this report. we keep going back to a few key points, that we ended this program for very good reason. it's not in line with our values. and we have taken steps to mitigate against a range of responses. we don't know what the response might look like in different places around the world. >> did the united states torture prisoners? >> the president has spoken to that. i don't have anything to add -- >> do you believe the united states tortured prisoners? that's a specific word, torture. international legal term. if the united states is confirming that it tortured prisoners, it could potentially be brought before th