morality is a game. these are -- it's a game that -- well, i'll explain to you what i think i'm figuring out in terms of -- me and my colleagues and many others -- what we're learning about moral psychology i think can help us talk to each other and understand why the other side is so blind to what we see so clearly. so, on to the book. so the book is actually very simple to summarize because it's divided into three parts based on three principles of moral psychology in 1975, edward o. wilson, the evolutionary -- the antievolutionary expert. in 1965 he predicted that some day there would be a new inthat sis in ethic, that ethics would be taken out of the hands of the philosophers and hand it over the scientists and social scientists who would have a crack at and it he predicted come up with a much better story. so, when i entered graduate school in 1987, -- i'm sorry. i should have had that up. the first one is intuitions come first. strategic reasoning is sing. when i get graduate school in 1987, moral

morality by in this and blinds. this is not just something that happens to people on the other side. we'll get sucked into the morrill communities and circled around sacred values and then share the post of arguments why we are right and they are wrong. we think the other side is blind to troops, reason, science and common sense but in fact everyone goes blind when talking about the object. morality by an assistant to the ideological teams that fight each other to the state of the world dependent on the outside battle. it blinds us to the fact each team is composed of good people with something important to say. is it just to close this section of dhaka and implicate its policy followed the sacredness. a rounded you will find a ring of ignorance. if you love with a group holds sacred you know they cannot think straight about and you will then find them denying the age of the earth. you take a little truth and do more than committed to thinking badly about geology and of using coal is the earth than you're committed

issue and if he comes to office promising to fix it and he hasn't, that say moral issue. chris: you're going a little far here beyond my ability to comprehend. you ask many, many questions in these nbc wall street journal polls. and they're very particular. in this case you say moral and you believe they jump to the economy. >> i'm not exactly sure what they jump to. i think there are a the lot of things going on. liz's point is a good one, when you have voters predisposed to like a candidate they answer questions in all kinds of ways that simply flow from that basic belief. but -- chris: optimism and pessimism, we were asking that a moment ago. maybe a person who cuzz the -- doesn't like obama because of his background, his race, may be pessmiffletic with -- if you want to be ludicrous about this. >> if you look at the right track/wrong track obama is way upside down just from people's basic beliefs is the country getting better. i think morality is way roughed up in religion and this president hasn't been overtly religion. he doesn't goo to -- go to church on sunday and

again, the book is called "what money can't buy: the miranda rule -- moral markets".such a fascinating book. thank you so much, professor sandel. >> guest: thank you so much, nicole, thank you. >>> that was "after words" booktv's programs where authors are interviewed by journalists,

now, these are not grave -- this does not pose a grave moral danger, these examples. but they're small illustrations of this tendency. take a more significant one. when i was in china recently, i learned that in chinese hospitals there are enormous queues, long waiting lines. people come from the countryside sometimes waiting for days to see a doctor. and it's giving rise to an industry, entrepreneurs hire people, homeless people or others, to wait in the line to get the appointment ticket which is very cheap, and then they sell those tickets. it's like ticket scalping outside a world series game or a concert sell the ticket to the highest bidder. now, this is for access to see a doctor in a hospital. and so the question arises when should the principal of the queue -- first come, first served -- govern, and when should the ability to pay govern? the answer may be different for amusement parks and for hospitals, but these are the kinds of questions i think we need to begin to debate and to discuss and to be aware of. >> host: you mentioned where do we figure out the d

firefighter down. >> fellow firefighters drag morales to safety.injuries are considered minor. >> i was knocked unconscious, had a head concussion. >> morales is lucky. sadly, the fire claims the life of the woman trapped inside. >> she tried to come out of the room and she obviously couldn't make it because the fire and smoke caught up to her. >> it's not until alan bell is able to catch his breath that he remembers he's wearing a camera on his helmet. >> once you settle down and all your adrenaline's over, then is when i realized i think i was filming all this. >> the first time i watched it, it was scary, you know, because you see yourself going through this. this is not a good experience. >> both firefighters hope others can learn from the video captured by alan bell's helmet camera. >> my primary goal of the video was to use for training. and that we all should train for the highest level possible. you can see what happens. it's all on camera. >> mayday. firefighter down. >> coming up, h2 -- whoa! >> all of a sudden i feel the blast of water h

doesn't force a citizen or a group of citizens in a religious creed to violate their deepest held moral convictions. >> do you steam to agree with what the vice president is saying that the president didn't really change his position? >> yes, i think so. although i am a little confused, because the president told me his position, his conviction is that the government would do nothing to impede religion, and he was very gracious, and especially complimenting the catholic family in the united states in their work for healthcare, charity and education, and he would say, i don't want this administration to do anything to impede that, it is tough for me to see how the strangling hhs regulation dogs anything but that. >> schieffer: let me ask you this. do you ever worry that sometimes -- do you like to be careful about getting too involved in politics? i know this is a new poll out that says 60 percent of catholics say churches and other houses of worship should just totally steer clear of politics. >> yes. i do worry about that, bob. and this is a good place for me to remind everybody, we di

the root way to do that is morality. moral people obviously don't rape, pilfer and steal. >> right here, the midst of angola, i have seen change. because the seed of the favor of god -- >> warden cain's approach to morality works on two levels. one, spiritual and religious. the other, engaging employment opportunities. church is optional. work is not. >> i've been editing really for about a month now. and been with ls productions about nine months. >> perhaps the most unusual example of innovation at angola is the tv station. the only big house production company in the united states. >> one, between, three. >> before we do a shoot, we have to kind of step back and kind of ask, if an outside company was doing it, what would you ask? >> choose your behavior, choose your consequence. i chose angola by the lifestyle i was living. i'm not going to lay down, just roll over. i want my life to mean something. and it can, even though that i'm in prison. >> every member of the tv station but one is serving a life sentence. >> wel

so it's as a moral voice that douglass has a place. he had been giving the country a narrative and argument, infinite supply of metaphors through which to try to imagine the recreation of an american republic rooted in the destruction of slavery and the transformation of the constitution. one of the great facts or even ironies of frederick douglass' life, born 1818, dies 195, if you look at the trajectory of his life, he's in his mid-40s during the civil war. he lives to see the triumph to use your word, the triumph of the cause he had spent his adult life arguing for but probably never believing he would see that triumph. but he then also lives another 30 years. he didn't die till he was 77. he lives another 30 years to see the virtual betrayal of that triumphant cause. so there's a trajectory to douglass' life, call it moral, call it temporal, call it whatever you want, that is fascinating. his relationships, of course, with lincoln and grant were very complex. he met lincoln three times as i just said earlier here in the lecture. he

i think we feel that loss profoundly because our elites are very morally unaccountable are very morally unaccountable to each other nowadays. >> michael. >> the thing is nobody cares what "time" thinks about glenn beck. they cared in 1961. other people were exposing back mostly web sites, certainly. just a very short anecdote about that. politico asked me to evaluate glenn beck's view of history. they wrote a long article. they tried to get balance, too. even conservative historians will not defend glenn beck. politico was not my idea of the next "new york times." they had a certain sense that this guy is a fraud and someone has to say that. of course, they didn't do it in their own voice of authority such as it is. they did it in the voice of people like me who were assumed to be authorities about history. the piece as a whole was pretty damning. maybe this -- again, i'm trying to be anti-nostalgic. i think the fact that beck went up and down, perhaps not unlike mccarthy. mccarthy had much more power. it is a lesson that people do learn through one media or another. >> other questions?

the north korean army was tee moralized. the victory has become recognized as a masterpiece of strategy. so it will return to its rightful inhabitants. there had been a long line of cities and towns returned under macarthur's leadership. it was at this time that president truman cited macarthur for his vision, his judgment, his will, his unshakeable faith. the korean war continued northward. the orders were the destruction of the north korean armed forces. and then the chinese communists entered the conflict, posing new questions in washington not only military but political. while carrying out what he considered to be his duty as supreme commander, the pursuit of victory on the battlefield, general macarthur came into conflict with those he served. his long and distinguished military career was suddenly brought to a close in an official order from the president, commander in chief of the military forces of the united states. he was homeward bound for the first time in 14 years. the san francisco reception was the largest, t

what are the moral limits of the market? >> well, it's really about the growing role of money and markets in our society. >> stephen: it's a free market society. why would thant be growing? >> it's free market society for talking about flat screen televisions, material goods. but moving up the ladder, the american dream,. >> stephen: the free market does that. for everything and everyone. >> well, let's explore that a little bit. >> stephen: why not? >> money, markets, and market values have been reaching into almost every sphere of life: personal relations, everycation, health, civic life. >> stephen: absolutely. >> national security. >> stephen: education, absolutely. it has to. pay your kids for good grades. (laughter) >> well, there are some cities where the schools are paying kids for good grades or they're paying $2 to third graders for each book they read. >> stephen: what's wrong with that? it's incentivizing. >> well, one question is whether it works but the bigger question is will the cash, the market values crowd

in other countries, is a moral taboo, but not a legal. they first met as adults. they have four children, two of whom are disabled. the judges' unanimous ruling upholds a former ruling. he and his sister now lead separate lives. >> for more on this, we're joined by our brussels correspondent jeff mead. they said this is not violate the fundamental right to the protection of family life. tell us more. >> they said that this was a guarantee to the right of private and family life. in europe, where the majority of countries do and, they said it was too early to change that moral code, and a german court said it plans to protect the family on the basis that and blurs family. the judgments themselves are blurred. the court saw no reason to change the overall position in europe and it allows those countries that do allow between consenting adults to go ahead and do that. for the vast majority, they will retain what has been a longstanding legal, as well as moral taboo against. >> you did mention the other countries. do you think this german decision will influence other

what's missing is the moral confidence to say we are willing to risk a judgment. you know, as reporting was terrible, they did not report a big part of glenn beck's following -- glenn beck has a following and supports oath keepers where cops and military members sign an oath not to, you know, not to carry out unconstitutional orders when obama institutes martial law and that sort of thing. we have something qualitatively different here. i would say you don't want to falsely report. there's something missing here that we don't have. i think we feel that loss profoundly because our elites are very morally unaccountable among other things to each other these days. >> michael? >> the key thing, though, nobody cares what "time" magazine thinks about glenn beck, whereas they cared in 1961 what "time" magazine thought about john burke society. other people were exposing beck, mostly websites, certainly. just a very short anecdote about that. pretty owe asked me and other historians to evaluate glenn beck's view of history. they wrote a long article. they tried to get bal

and morality with atheism. >> you could be moral and excepted as truly moral person and athiest, correct >> yet. we need to talk about public perceptions. it's till strong enough force -- >> are you sure. >> if you want to talk about why we don't see more outs of the closet athiests in congress, yes, because you lose votes -- >> you thiofuran admitted athiest, you come out of the closet you're not going to be reelected. >> what is important is that it's coming out of the closet in recent years i believe because of christopher hitch ins and other bestselling authors, writing about it boldly. people say, you don't -- you don't break into flame if you are an athiest some of especially young people ñrbecom chic to say you're an athiest. >> my late husband was a athiest. >> publicly so? >> publicly. >> tom told me he was an athiest, in a group like this. >> but he didn't want his mother to live who played the organ in the catholic church every morning. there are some people that you feel more comfortable. i think there's a -- a false assumption that if you go to church and you profess a relig

of human a moral. one and faith based and patriotic one there is no debate about it the subject of today parade. ground from occupation this is the this is the original reason the real reason why hezbollah was established in the first place and there's no speech about this among lebanese when we did not want to be did not want to get into government we cannot compete for political power for the first time we entered the government and in government was in two thousand and five and they were there was not in order to have a share of now a better approach say to protect the back of the resistance so that this government government was set up until it doesn't make any incorrect mistakes and gains the resistance we have fears are very very i mean and so when you have objective correct objectives and i make it my priority and i have always all of the rivalries for the sake of this objective that i give everyone close to god and people cooperating so you should in this objective until this moment we you know

the morality of capitalism is more focused on the idea of capitalism as a moral argument, not just an economic one. so it is collected essays from writers all over the world, sort of with the viewpoint of capitalism. >> and that includes john mackey. who is john mackey? >> john mackey is the founder of whole foods. >> what is he right about quite >> he writes about capitalism as a moral argument that we have the moral high ground as capitalists. we are saying to people they have the freedom to decide how to live their lives. were not going to take it back to them and it's a very moral argument. >> what is students for liberty click >> students for liberty as five o. one c. three run for students by students of the network of support and resources for student groups over the world with leaders in europe, africa, oceana and all across the united states that are promoting ideas of liberty and college campuses. >> when was it sounded, where? >> it was founded in 2008 by a group of young interns

and let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle. promote then as an object of primary importance institutions for the general diffusion of knowledge. it's important that public opinion should be enlightened. on public credit and debt. as a very important source of strength and security, cherish public credit. one method of preserving it is to use it as sparingly as possible. avoid occasions of expense by cultivating peace but remembering also the timely disbursements to prepare for danger frequently prevent much greater disbursements to rappel it. avoiding likewise the accumulation of debt. not only by shutting occasions of expense but by vigorous exertions in time of peace to discharge the debts which unavoidable wars may have occasions, not ungenerously throwing upon posterity the burden which we ourselves ought to bear.

where to use the force of law to mandate a moral judgment. we should write laws affecting dietary rules like not eating meat on friday during lent. have you? even when he we argue about abortion, it's the rare zell that would punish the woman that makes the difficult choice to have an abortion. have you? why? because we know most of us even if we do not admit it openly the limit offense what a society, especially one like ours dedicated to individual freedom can do to enforce endeeply held moral commitmentcommitments. it can be a propelling force for good. we know how of it can be a deeply powerful divider. i agree with the cardinal in new york. let's not forget the role of faith base morality and how we treat each other. this trayvon martin case is a good example. do unto others as you would have them do unto you remains one of the great guides to human behavior. the best guide any of us will know.

it does result in low morale. but it also results in low morale not jut because of people in the thags would disagree with the practice or the fact that there's no appropriate accountability for officers who are clearly operating outside professional conduct. it has low morale when the community that we serve then becomes, you know, complaining about us being unprofessional. or about the reputation of the agency being, you know, that of a victimizer as opposed to a protector. so -- and the chief is absolutely right. it starts with the management. it starts with the very top person and the top level people allowing these things to occur in individuals that they won't hold accountable. as a captain in my agency, i believe it's my charge to hold people accountable when they conduct themselves unprofessionally, and i do so. you know. i think some people have said here that you know, well, there seems to be some kind of great thing going on in denver or what have you. i'm just going to tell you, and i love my city and

he called civil rights a moral issue as old as the scriptures.a moral judgment? i never heard anyone suggest in this society of ours we should write laws effecting things like not eating meet on frind during lent. but even about abortion, it is rare, that i can't think of one that would punish the woman that makes that difficult choice to have an abortion. most of us, even if we do not admit it openly, dedicated as it is to individual freedom, can do to enforce deeply held moral commitments. so we go on. the powerful moral beliefs can be a compelling force for good. it can be a deep and powerful divider. let's hold high the separation of church and state, and let's not forget the role of faith-based morality and how retreat each other. the trayvon martin is a good reminder.

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morality can be maintained without religion. whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of particular structure, reason, and experience, both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail an exclusion of religious principal. it is substantially true that virtue is a necessary spring of popular government. the rule indeed extends with more or less force to every species of free government. who can look with indifference upon attempts to shake the foundation of the fabric. promote them as an object of primary importance and institution of the general diffusion of knowledge and proportion as the structure. government gives force to public opinion, it is essential that public opinion should be enlightened. as a very important source of strength and security, cherish public credit. one method of preserving it is to use it as sparingly as possible. avoiding occasions of expense by cultivating peace, but remembering also that timely disbursements to prepare for danger create much greater disburseme

religious and morality enjoy the conduct. can it be that good policy cannot equally enjoin it? it will be worthy of a free, enlightened ant a great nation to give to mankind the mag unanimous mouse and too novel example of a people guided by justice and benevolence. who can doubt that in the court of time and things the fruits of such a plan would repay any temporary advantage which might be lost by a steady adherence to it. the great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is in extending our commercial relations to have with us as little political connection as possible. it is our policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world. harmony, liberal intercourse with all nations are recommended by policy, humanity and interest. even our commercial policy should hold an equal and impartial hand. keeping constant in view. that is following one nation to look for disinterest from another. it must pay with a portion of independence for whatever it may accept under that character. there can be no greater error than to expect or calculate u

it's the moral issue comes first. >> that's an interesting point.e moral issue, regardless of what the impyrrhics show us, if this is a fundamental question of who we are as a society, where would you fall on that issue? >> i would fall on the side of i don't support the death penalty, and i do think it's a moral issue it's a moral issue because it speaks to what this nation is all about, first of all and a culture of life. and here i'm the thinking, coming out of a catholic tradition what that means. you take care of life at every segment. but i also think this has a lot to do with -- and people aren't willing to talk about this. the prison industrial complex and what that means for prisons to be able to house people for years and years and years on end, and especially i lived in california for a long time and it took forever for anybody to be executed and then in texas, the executions were just rolling around as regular basis, and that's my home state. so i think for us, it's a moral issue and i also think what it would mean in this country for us

the more we build that moral consensus about the dignity of human life, solidarity, the common good, the more we will be able to find ways of talking across the partisan divide. i think religion has a huge role to play. we have to watch out getting instrumentalist one way or the other. >> he is currently the bishop in connecticut. he will be installed as the 16th archbishop in may. pope benedict prayed for peace today. he celebrated mass with thousands of christians in st. peter's square at the vatican. he prayed for a new start to the mideast peace process. the crowd grew to well over 100,000 people by the end of the ceremony. the first family attended easter sunday services at st. john's episcopal church. the president, first lady, and their doctors walked from the white house -- and their daughters walked from the white house to the church. in georgetown, texas, tim tebow attracted a crowd of 30,000 people to an outdoor easter service. hundreds of school buses shuttle people to the stage where services were held. he answered questions and talk about staying true to his beliefs. >>

it's a moral issue. it helps families, keeps marriages stronger, lifts kids out of poverty.at's what we're all about. they have to get their act together. in states where people have got their act together we've seen significant progress and that's what has to be learned from it. when i was in d.c. by the way, i was there 18 years, we balanced the budget in 1997 without a tax increase. the fact is she want to keep spending in that city. it's not going to get us where we need to get to. >> that's not political rhetoric. it just gets down to cold, hard facts. >> senator durbin, i want to ask you about the competing visions for the country. it comes down to competing views of the role of government. what role should government play to try to, as you might describe it, level the playing field in terms of taxes? that's how the president might describe it, republicans would describe that differently or creating new entitlements like health care or as republicans might say, deal with the fact that our entitlement state is too big. it's affecting our ability to help people get into

americans on food stamps will see massive cuts to their benefits over the next decade is this really the moral way to govern the nation by stealing from the board giving to the rich also mitt romney may be the republican nominee for president his fellow republicans are less than thrilled romney really when americans vote if he can't win over those in his own party that is more than i said low liberal and just weeks after the anniversary of the focus human disaster more bad news is coming out of that crippled nuclear power plant what are officials now saying about the possibility of another nuclear disaster one that would be even more devastating and sure noble. you need to know this tuesday night house republicans even as multimillionaire congressman paul ryan's radical budget for the romney rich coincidentally republicans use the same deem and pass tactic to pass the budget that they've criticized democrats for trying to use back in two thousand and town to push through obamacare the ryan budget deemed it passed republicans going to get to work set a new and much lower funding levels for a wh

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