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but i've also seen the tragedy, the death they can result from being on mount everest. only like four or five western tourists who came into the everest region. by 2019, we have thousands, more than 35,000 tourists, who came to the everest region. to put that in perspective, this is a region with about 7000 people, so it is five times the population that actually lives there. in 2019, nearly 900 people reached the mountain's summit. but bad weather and a short winter to reach the peak made it one of the deadliest seasons on record, with at least 11 casualties. some of the slower climbers held up those behind them, so the slowest person dictated the pace. fortunately, because our team's skill level was high enough, we could climb around people who were stuck. so we stayed on schedule, and got to the top, and came back down. i think something was lost there. it became all about who's going to get there, how fast, and what am i going to get out of that experience? and i suspect that it is only going to get worse in the future, unless there is an intervention. although the n

. >> trevor: let's kick things off with mount everest, it's the reverse grand canyon. everyone knows it's the highest mountain in the world, but turns out that, like seth rogen, it's even higher than we thought. >> if you were planning to scale mount everest anytime soon, it just got a little taller. after a decade of dispute, china and nepal agreed on how tall the peak is, they agreed to add a meter. it now climbs 29,032 feet, means it is almost three feet taller now. >> trevor: turns out mount everest is almost three feet taller than we thought before and technically almost four feet taller when you factor in its new afro. here's my question, who is stretcstretching the measuring e all the way to the top of the mountain because when i measure anything over 20 feet, it always lets go and flies back in my hand. imagine this person's bravery. turns out mount everest isn't just taller, it turns out that it keeps growing taller partly because of all the dead bodies from failed climbers that keep piling up but also because the tectonic plates are pushing into each other an

people have managed to do that with mount everest before and i to do that with mount everest before andes it much more difficult to — straight up, it makes it much more difficult to climb in winter. it was two rival — difficult to climb in winter. it was two rival teams that came together. they had _ two rival teams that came together. they had to — two rival teams that came together. they had tojoin two rival teams that came together. they had to join together to get to the too _ they had to join together to get to the too at — they had to join together to get to the top. at one point their tents and sleeping bags were blown away in the snow _ and sleeping bags were blown away in the snow. they did externally well to get _ the snow. they did externally well to get to _ the snow. they did externally well to get to the top. | the snow. they did externally well to get to the top.— to get to the top. i suppose, in this desperate _ to get to the top. i suppose, in this desperate time _ to get to the top. i suppose, in this desperate time is - to get to the top. i suppose, in this desperate

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all the studies and what they found when they found micro plastics on the top of like you know mount everest to even the deepest parts of the ocean it's just now a part of our society at this point and us biologically so there is no there is it will only talk about all of these changes that we've seen from legislators the ones who make different ecological things make sense now they want to ensure that we're not being as wasteful and what ways you think that might be helpful in reducing some of these micro plastics i mean we have to start by actually recognizing saying ok this is this is become a problem and then we have to say how much how much plastic do we need you know how many products do we really need to be made out of plastic how many thing you know how many products need to be made at all you know that i mean that's really where comes out i mean you see the plastic lobby we've all seen those weird odd commercials that suddenly popped up like all of a sudden words like you know don't you love plastic it makes some of these lot of things so they are the law yeah you know and i think t

deal with when when people appeal to them i begin with you know even the example of the height of mount everest is something that nobody can agree on so although accuracy you know journalists are taught in that 1st week in journalism school is something that is it's called a journalism it's more complicated than it seems and ditto fairness. i think tennis is a good thing in possibility is a good thing but it's a very contested because who are you being impartial between and on what subjects you call fantasy technique accuracy a quagmire that's response. still as true today as when i wrote it you also define experts that someone who is knowledgeable so knowledgeable about a subject they recognise their own ignorance. yeah we've been through sort of funny phase with experts him where. there was a kind of populist revolt against experts the british cabinet minister michael gove's famously said we've had enough of the experts. but of course experts are now arguably back in fashion now because who you're going to believe about a pandemic that chen seemed to be the polling in as much as you can belie

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winston churchill -- coined the term when there was a chase of who would clear mount everest that fired up the imagination of contemporary people and from that he took the term,,. ,,, at made into household needs. so these three elements are crucial in modern summitry. let me get into the very complete outlined by dr. stoler, and murky through it. his theme is sort of various summit conferences before the yalta summit. and his preliminary remarks he was saying that the yalta conference was considered to be a peace conference, but it was not. the war was still going on. and military matters had a high place on the agenda. he says it appears only in retrospect as there is a peace conference. he says this is probably due to the fact that there was no world war ii peace conference, the way that versailles at the paris conferences in 1919 ended world war one. he wants to make that important point. not a peace conference. he also makes the, point and that's what his atlanta's, about that many political issues on the agenda, like poland, like the un, like germany, had already previously been d

there is a chase on who would first clear the summit on mount everest. and from that he took the summer summ summ summitery. he says the first big one was the mu ninich conference. that was 1948. the way professor reynolds put it, it was made possible by air travel, maybe necessary by weapons of mass destruction. made into household news thereto mass media. let me get a very complete outline and march you through it. his theme is sort of various summit conferences before the yalta summit. in his preliminary marks, he is saying it could have been a peace conference, but it was not. the war was still'. and the military matters had a high place on the conference agenda, he says. and it appears only in retrospect. and he thinks this is probably due to the fact that there was no post world war ii peace con for instance the way that it was ended in world war i. he wants to make a point that many major political issues that were on the yalta agenda like poland, the u.n., like germany, they had been discussed in my summit meetingings. he said most of the issues

this how a force that live and western wristlet many thanks indeed to harry let's bring in henry mount everest who's seen strategy a political risk consultancy previously served as a state department official she joins us now from a plane the journey out good to have you with us again henry what do you make of these set these threats from these ready ministries chief of staff. well i think there are about 2 things 12 things that have fundamentally changed for the israelis since the trunk administration the 1st is that you have both the new body ministration here in washington and the rouhani administration in iran both at the same time prepared and determined to pursue diplomacy that's a fundamentally new dynamic that the israelis do not want to happen they're trying to prevent that diplomacy from going forward the 2nd which does not get reported nearly as much as i think it should are the israeli domestic politics particularly for the military the military has seen in israel has seen its budget depleted over the past year by having to help the country contain code that they've caught on their

ever since i was a kid i have dreamt of climbing mount everest. look like for those who are desperate to travel? rajan has been finding out. last year, as we all stayed home and talked to our computers, much of the outside world fell eerily quiet. the latest data from the world tourism organisation says that between january and october 2020, global destinations welcomed 900 million fewer international tourists than in the same period the year before. and they believe that last year as a whole will have set tourism levels back to that of three decades ago. and while that means that we have missed out on cherished holidays, for the travel industry, it spells a loss of an estimated us$i trillion plus. that is cash that could have gone to the costs and wages of airlines, hotels, local taxis, guides — you name it. it all means that 2021 is going to start like no other year. and an awful lot is riding on it. we're going to be looking at a slow and possibly nervous start. the effects of this pandemic is people will appreciate how important travel is to t

mount everest was closed for much of 2020 because of the pandemic.ame into the everest region. by 2019, we have thousands, more than 35,000 tourists, who came to the everest region. to put that in perspective, this is a region with about 7000 people, so it is five times the population that actually lives there. in 2019, nearly 900 people reached the mountain's summit. but bad weather and a short winter to reach the peak made it one of the deadliest seasons on record, with at least 11 casualties. some of the slower climbers held up those behind them, so the slowest person dictated the pace. fortunately, because our team's skill level was high enough, we could climb around people who were stuck. so we stayed on schedule, and got to the top, and came back down. i think something was lost there. it became all about who's going to get there, how fast, and what am i going to get out of that experience? and i suspect that it is only going to get worse in the future, unless there is an intervention. although the nepalese government collected £8,000 fee from

it's a memoir about growing up with his famous father who was the first american to climb mount everest so that is on my reading list for the rest of the summer. >> now the china 2049 book your district is pretty affected by trade with china, isn't it? >> washington state is the most trade -dependent about 40% of jobs in the state are directly tied with countries all over the world not just china but china is one of the largest for washington state companies and the women and men that work at those companies so having a fairly good idea, fairly good luck in the crystal ball of the future of the chinese economy has a direct impact on washington state economy and the women and men that work in those jobs. >> host: do you find yourself sharing book ideas with your colleagues? >> not with all but a few of them. i'm a pretty avid mystery reader and there's one member in particular we trade book ideas usually around which mystery we are reading lately and which mystery series we are reading lately, so that's kind of where i take my interests and share them with my colleagues. >> do you spend

my home state as well so on my shelf is a book by jim whitaker send the first american to climb mount everest and it is a memoir about what occurred growing up with his very famous father was the first american to climb mount everest that's my waiting list for the rest of the summer. >> the china 2049 book your district in washington is be affected by trade with china? >> washington state is the most independent state 40 percent of jobs are directly tied to trade with countries all of the world china is the largest trading partners for washington state companies and one of the men who worked at those companies so having a good look into the crystal ball and the chinese economy has a direct impact on washington state economy and the women and men who work on those job. >> do you find yourself sharing book ideas with your colleagues? >> met with all my colleagues but a few of them i am an avid mystery reader and one member in particular we each paid with ideas his family around which mystery series we are reading lately so that is where i take my interest to share them with my colleagues. >> an