as for info wars, mr. jones is out still doing that as long as he can afford to, and that's part of what this is about. before i turn to paul, let's look at alex jones lashing out at his lawyers on info wars. >> i wasn't talk about sandy hook. i don't care about sandy hook. we don't cover it other than when they force us to, and it's just so incredibly sick that i sit there and give the damn lawyers all the text messages, and my lawyers give them the raw text messages of six months from 2019, early 2020. that's the reality. >> paul, it is true that his position was worsened by them handing over the evidence. and yet to make one legal point for your analysis, if they hadn't had been hiding and lying about the facts, it wouldn't have been such bad stuff to turn over, paul. >> exactly right. ari, i think the jury was sending a message with this super quick verdict, roughly a couple of hour after a two-week trial, and this big loss could not have happened to a more deserving defendant. ari, you know us lawyers like

mr. jones finally accept the reality on this, but today's trial was not about proving that already well established fact. today's trial was about damages. it's the first of three trials to determine how much cash mr. jones owes family members of sandy hook victims. mr. jones is not being shy about his plan to get out of paying here. this is him on his own show, this past sunday. >> i can lie to the jury, and say i have hundreds of millions of dollars. that's why they do this, in the hopes of an already guilty judgment of alex jones, that it's too big to even get a bond on. once you're in bankruptcy, it's all there in the court, and the bond for the appeals are half your net worth. that isn't going to be very much. maybe 1 million, million and a half dollars or something. >> mr. jones has been claiming that since he was quote, deplatformed, his business has been destroyed. last, week he filed for bankruptcy. while the sandy hook parents of this case say the jones has plenty of money, and they ar

million and a half dollars or something. >> mr. jones has been claiming that since he was quote deplatformed, his business has been destroyed. last week, he filed for bankruptcy. and while the sandy hook parents in this case say jones has plenty of money, and they're seeking a $150 settlement, mr. jones is claiming that any settlement of just over $2 million would quote sink his companies financially. those two conflicting claims could have been the only context that the jury in this case had for deciding just how much mr. jones was able to pay, but today in court, the sandy hook parents lawyer had what mr. jones himself called a perry mason moment. >> your attorneys messed up and sent me an entire digital copy of your phone and every text message the past two years and it was free and clear under my possession and that is how i know you lied to me, mr. jones, in discovery, you were asked, do you have sandy hook text messages on your phone, and you said no. correct? you said that under oath. >> i was mistaken. you have those messages. >>

okay. >> mr. jones? ust answer questions, there is no question -- only ask questions. >> mr. johns, in discovery, you are asked, do you have sandy hook test messages on your phone? you said no, correct. you said that under oath. >> if i was mistaken, i was mistaken. you've got the message, is the right there. >> you know a perjury is? i want you to know, before we go into this. >> yes i do. >> that was just one of the many gobsmacking moments from the seven-day trial so far of conspiracy theorist alex jones. he was already found liable for defamation after using his platform to spread the false and defensive conspiracy theory that these shooting at sandy hook elementary school was a hoax. the trial right now is how much he should pay in damages, and the jury is deliberating. the trial has laid bare what we already knew, jones's website infowars is a cesspool of disinformation. earlier this, week and infowars host admitted that he did know back basic fact checking before sharing an article attacking the fa

mr. jonesell twist in court. let's get into it. jones was taking the stand in his own defense. he is up there, trying to back up the claims he has made which include the idea that he wasn't really lying that he never had any emails about this, and so on. and then, and i'm telling you, you don't see anything like this, the revelation from the lawyers for the sandy hook parents suing him have got the goods that prove he is a liar and may be a criminal and they got it from alex jones own incompetent lawyers. those lawyers accidentally sent alex jones incriminating tax and emails. the emails he said he didn't have to the other side. take a look. >> mr. jones. did you know that 12 days ago -- 12 days ago, your attorneys messed up and sent me an entire digital copy of your entire cell phone with every text message you sent to the past two years and that is how i know you lied to me when you said you didn't have text messages about sandy hook. did you know that? >> i told you the truth. i gave them my

mr. jonesorth. but in all, he has nine companies that he controls. he believes that the companies are worth somewhere between $135 million and $270 million. on average he believes his company is bring in about $53 million a year. 2021, though, was significant. that was a year that mr. jones was found liable by default in a sandy hook case. in that year, said this forensic psychologist, mr. jones started moving $11,000 a day into one of his companies pqpr and he also withdraw $62 million during that year as well. lawyers for jesse louis's parents say that the jury must send a message in whatever figure they come up with today. >> we ask that you send a very, very simple message. and that is stop alex jones, top the monetization of misinformation and lies. >> and the only way they say that will happen is if that jury returns the maximum $150 million or thereabouts. it is not clear given mr. jones' financial situation and the bankruptcies that other families are saying that he's trying to hide mon

lawyers for mr. jonese $45.2 million is outside of the scope of the cap in texas. so there is likely to be some discussion there or a fight there. the judge at this point isn't able to rule on that particular issue. and it sounds like the plaintiffs' lawyers, parents of jesse lewis, the 6-year-old murdered there, that they are also filing something right now as well. i think a lot of the concern is not only this cap in texas, but also what mr. jones will do with his money now. in 2021, when this forensic economist said that mr. jones made about $62 million, he also took out of his companies about $62 million. wrote debt to himself that he's now paying himself off. so it is very complicate and it is not clear when these parptss would see any money, wolf. >> thank you very much for that. miguel marquez reporting for us. coming up, the white house now touting a surprising new jobs report here in the united states. coming at the end of a very big week for the biden administration. we'll take a closer look at w

mr. jonesy would like to see that. and i would like to see that. i think evybody would one thing i would this agree with is -- would disagree with his the affidavit is not public. only the execution of the search warrant, which is not the evidence gathered to put in front of a judge. that is what is under seal. that is the most important piece of the search warrant. it is under seal, the compilation of evidence brought together to show a federal judge, an independent judge, that probable cause existed to believe a crime had been committed and evidence of that crime was concealed on that property. i would love to hear an explanation and i would like to see one, but i also think the public does not want to see any consequential investigation like this jeopardized and the justice department will have to make another serious decision as to whether or not making public of the affidavit would in fact compromise the investigation going forward. i trust them to make the right call. judy: do you think t

lawyers on the other side say it's not that clear, all of that aside, given mr. jonesof a bankruptcy of proceedings, there are two other cases he has been held liable for four defamation, one in connecticut, another in texas, and the claim will be he is going to try to hide his money and even the forensic economist they had on today valued's various businesses. he has nine different companies, and valued them anywhere from 135 million to 270 million, but said that, in 2021, once these judgment started to come down against, and he started to pull money out of those companies, so will they be able to get it? it's not very clear. mr. jones's lawyers say this is a first amendment issue, and it's already under attack. the mother of the young man, the six year old man who died almost ten years ago at sandy hook says, after this was done, mr. jones is a bully that she was pleased to be able to look him in the eye, she was afraid to do it before she got up there. but once she looked him in the eye, she said she felt like her son who had the presence of mind to say run to the o

>> i'm asking you a question, mr. jonesou answer a question until there's an objection. >> jones struggling to answer without being contradicted by his words or those being said by others on his behalf. just last friday robert barns filled in for jones on his info war show. >> the judge is rigging that this is literally a script. it's called a certain way for future audiences. >> jones' cross-examination follows withering testimony from scarlet lewis, jesse's mother. she faced down jones, the man who told and fanned lies of the mass murder at sandy hook never happened. her son jesse, never existed and his mother merely an actress. >> and then to have someone on top of that perpetuate a lie, a lie, that it was a hoax that it didn't happen. it was a false flag, this i'm an actress and you get on and you say, oh, sorry, but i know actresses when i see them. do you think i'm an actress? >> no, i don't think you're an actress. >> no, you can't talk right now. >> under three separate defamation lawsuits brought by the families of

mr. jones easy tonight with punitive damages to be decided and multiple defamation lawsuits pending it is clear his time on the american stage is finally coming to an end. alex jones, by the way, is also claiming victory here. joining us now is a writer for "the new york times" elizabeth williamson she has been in the courtroom for this trial and is also the author of a new very important book called "sandy hook an american tragedy and the battle for truth." it's that battle for truth that is so important to talk about here, elizabeth. i want to ask you first, though, starting with these damages, what are the implications of $4.1 million in compensatory damages for this one family? >> i think for scarlett lewis and neil heslin this is sort of a moral victory. they felt like they needed a symbolic judgment against him, but as they said in court, this is really a victory for truth and also a message sent to others who might, you know, be tempted to harm vulnerable people by spreading lies of this

that was tarnished by mr. joneser on his show. >> he is a manipulated by very bad people. i have to say this because i'll be honest, he's slow. >> but in court he faced jesse's. >> jesse was real. i'm a real mom. >> reporter: testifying their 6-year-old son and their pain were real. the conspiracy theorist has been a difficult witness. >> you must tell the truth while you testify. this is not your show. do you understand what i have said? yes or no? do you understand what i have said? >> yes. i believe what i said was true. so -- >> you believe everything you say is true. but it isn't. your beliefs do not make something true. that is what we're doing here. >> admonished by the judge for lying on the stand. >> you're already under oath to tell the truth. you've already violated that oath twice today. >> reporter: and he was caught in another lie by the plaintiff's attorney. >> your attorneys messed up and sent me an entire digital copy of your entire cell phone with every text message you've sent for the past two yea

jones. later in 2017, mr. red in an nbc news segment that also included an interview with jones about the conspiracy theories. mr. heslin's comments during the segment about holding his son after he had died with a bullet wound through his head were later picked up by mr. jones and associated on his broadcast. according to the new york times, they essentially called heslin a liar and repeated the lies about there never being a mass shooting. on the witness stand, mr. heslin was asked to go into detail about the wounds to his son. at the funeral, he says they were advised not to touch jesse's head because it was so fragile. >> when they stated that jesse was fake, that was an indication that he didn't exist and he didn't live. he did live. i was blessed with him for 6 1/2 years. he's been gone 1 1/2 times that, and i cherish those days, those years with jesse. >> mr. heslin also testified because of alex jones, he's had people confront him in public with lies about sandy hook even to this day. some, he said, hav

i have to say mr. jonesip with the truth and you noted a moment ago, erica, and he's certainly somebody who, frankly, probably in his life had brushes with that in the past. he certainly could be facing them here. >> when we look at this, too, i think everybody's jaw just sort of dropped when all of this was unfolding yesterday, that his legal team was completely unaware, saying, hey, look, we let you know you sent us these documents by accident and you didn't do anything about i. could the legal team be facing any repercussions? >> great, great question. the short answer is yes. in fact, this is the sort of situation where our client is often looking at their attorney and wondering whether or not they have a claim against that attorney for malpractice or breach of fiduciary duty or something along those lines. unfortunately for mr. jones, the attorney is going to have emails or other things that reference he did not tell that suggest, for example, mr. jones would lie in his deposition. he's going to argue t

in 2017, he appeared in an nbc news segment that also included an interview with jones about the conspiracy theories, mrolding his sons, after he had died, with the bullet wounds were later picked up by jones and associate on his broadcast. they essentially called -- about their never being a mass shooting. on the witness stand, mr. hatchling was asked to go into detail about the wounds to his son. at the funeral, they were advised to touch not to touch jesse's head because it was so fragile. >> it was stated that jesse was fake. that was an indication that he didn't exist. he did. you did live. i was present with him for a six and a half years. he's been gone [inaudible] times. thank god. i cherish those days. those years. we have jesse. >> mr. heslin also testified because of alex jones, he has had people confront him in public with lies about sandy hook, even to this day. some, he said, have mentioned jones's name. a few years back he said his home was shot at. someone drove by his home shouting alex jones. and he testified it sounded like gunfire coming from the vehicle. >>, -- negligence and reckle

okay. >> mr. jonesstions. >> reporter: jones' defense, on his show he's only asking questions and the mainstream media is taking everything he says out of context. the family of jesse lewis are asking up to $150 million in damages. the defense lawyers for mr. jones are doing their closing arguments right now. we expect a jury may have this case any time this afternoon, and then it will be in their hands to decide what he's liable for. jake. >> miguel, if the jury decides to award a large amount of money to the family, what's the chance that the parents will actually see the money? >> that is already a growing question, not only this family but others. remember, there are three different defamation cases he's now been held liable for or he's liable in. the families are concerned that he's using bankruptcy laws to hide tens of millions of dollars in profits in order to keep it from liability in these cases. i think we're going to see a lot more litigation and many more lies ahead. >> miguel marquez, thank

. >> mr. jones, did you know that 12 days ago, 12 days ago, your attorneys messed up and sent me an entire digital copy of your entire cell phone? wait!!! let me help—land o' frost premium meat. delicious and no by-products! toss it in. ay, moi? ok. weeeeeeeeee! make the smart choice. land o'frost premium meat. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ "shake your thang" by salt n pepa >>> really stunning scenes in a texas courtroom today. conspiracy theorists alex jones finally admitting the sandy hook shooting that killed 20 children and six adults actually happened and a huge bombshell, the lawyers for the family of jessie lewis, one of the children murdered in the shooting obtaining years of jones' phone records and sharing them in court. watch how it unfolded. >> mr. jones, did you know that 12 days ago, 12 days ago, your attorneys messed up and sent me an entire digital copy of your entire cell phone with every text message you've sent for the past two years and when informed did not take any steps to identify it as privileg

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okay. >> mr. jones, please just answer questions. >> that trove of text messages could also be used in an upcoming trial in connecticut involving other sandy hook parents. the bombshell moment coming after jones spent years repeatedly suggesting the shooting was a hoax. >> the whole thick is a giant hoax. the whole thing was fake. >> but under oath he admitted that wasn't true. >> i think sandy hook happened. i think it's a terrible event and i think we need to protect our children from mentally ill psychopaths and i think there was a cover up because they had warnings, the fbi knew about it. >> 20 children and six educators were killed in the attack. jones' attorney asked if he understood it was, quote, irresponsible to call the shooting fake? >> it was, especially since i've met the parents and it's 100% real as i said on the radio yesterday, as i said here yesterday, it's 100% real. >> he tried to walk back years of lies perpetuated through his media organization info wars. >> the official story of s

admonished by the judge to just stick to answering the question and reminded this is not your show, mr. jonest and you have to tell the truth. he just can't seem to do it, even on the witness stand, anderson. >> and i understand key moments centered around jones' text messages. >> yeah, part of the reason we are here is because jones never cooperated with discovery in this case. he said he never had any text messages related to sandy hook, which set up the moment for the father of jessie lewis to lay this bombshell on the court. >> this attorney messed up and sent an entire digital copy of your entire cell phone with every text message you've sent for the past two years and when informed did not take any steps to identify it as privileged or protected in any way. and as of two days ago, it fell free and clear into my possession. and that is how i know you lied to me when you said you did not have text messages about sandy hook. >> this is your perry mason moment. >> he was caught in yet another lie. there was no explanation for that. it was mind blowing. we don't know what the texts are yet,

mr. jones' money to good use. mr. jones, on the other hand, will not sleep easy tonight, with punitive damages still to be decided, and multiple additional defamation lawsuits pending. it is clear that mr. jones' time on the american stage is finally coming to an end. now, the question is, is that true? and a more broader discussion as well about misinformation and if it's time to pay the piper, will that song stop in a whole variety of ways? well it stop others? our panel tonight, i've scott scott jennings, abbey, and david swirlic. glad to see you all here. it might surprise you what i'm getting ready to tell you. there is a moment, apparently, where alex jones has responded and called this a win for truth. i'm going to play it for you in a little bit. but this is where the spin actually is. so, misinformation still abounds. what's your thought on this particular compensatory damages win? >> i'm glad the parents of the little boy -- i'm glad their happy. their lawyer says they're thrilled wit

seeking $150 million in damages >> to restore the honor and legacy of my son that was tarnished by mr. jones >> reporter: jones blasted jesse's father on his show yesterday. >> he is being manipulated by some very bad people. i'll just say, because i've got to be honest, he's slow. >> reporter: but in court he fairs faced jesse' mother >> jesse was real. i am a real mom. >> reporter: testifying their 6-year-old son and their pain were real the conspiracy theorist has been a difficult witness. >> this is not your show >> reporter: admonished yesterday by the judge for lying on the stand >> you're already under oath to tell the truth. you've already violated that oath twice today. >> reporter: and today he was caught in another lie by the plaintiffs' attorney >> your attorneys messed up and sent me an entire digital copy of your entire cellphone with every text message you sent for the past two years. >> reporter: including text messages about sandy hook jones failed to share as ordered by the court >> and that is how i know you lied to me when you said you didn't have text messages about sand

i be just that i get to the justice that mrs. jones, this is from the thank you. we started with a new be the bus and or nearly half of them i guess to do more with inclusion when you will only in the ready to makes jessica ha, the guy, why not call the? sure not i don't know why we you and you were gonna be them. so we'll kind of a lot more than i thought you said, you know, it's a lot more. she can watch a lot of good to go with . you just have to bring your collaborative year just to let you know not to read a book up a gives you a new sent to the correct person. you need a book. so i use with the port charlotte, not sure if i don't buy them, but don't put in for sure. when your style is not mine. i'm as with the biggest one for a while, which is the broker's. i don't know a lot of those holes more gym to warn you. what this is i'm when you board for 10 years, you're golden. you changed women, new brand, new movies and fun. but i'm available now for the motor region. just me. see if it's perfect. perfect. though not done mentally means that the what the lead me

. >> mr. jones, did you know that 12 days ago, 12 days ago, your attorney messed up and sent an entire digital copy of your entire cell phone with every text message you sent for the past two years and when informed, did not take any steps to identify it as privilege or protect it in anyway and as of two days ago it fell free and clear into my possession and that is how i know you lied to me when you say you didn't have text messages on sandy hook, did you know that. >> i was mistaken, you got the messages right. there i'm not a tech guy, i told you, i guy, gave my testimony, the phone to the lawyers before whatever and so you got my phone, we didn't give it to you. >> no, mr. jones. (laughter). >> trevor: oh shit, that was funny, oh, man, i like how he was so shocked, he started turning too every emoji, like-- at one point he even tried to give himself covid, did you see-- i can't speak. you know the disease i said is fake, yeah, i got it, i have got it now, i've got it you know you are in trouble

. >> mr. jones, did you know that 12 days ago, 12 days ago, your attorneys messed up and sent me an entire digital copy of your entire cellphone with every sex message you've sent for the past two years and when informed did not take any steps to identify it as privileged or protected in any way and as of two days ago, it fell free and clear into my possession and that is how i know that you lied to me when you said that you didn't have a text message about sandy hook. did you know that? >> see, i told you the truth, this is your perry mason moment. i gave them my money and -- >> mr. jones, you need to answer the question. >> no, i didn't know this happened. but i told you i gave them the phone. >> the information in the text messages had messages about sandy hook and also an accounting of how much jones' company has made totaling hundreds missile i don't knows over several years. this is just one lawsuit brought by one family, in all nine families of sandy hook victims and an fbi agent have success

the messages were sent in error to the family's lawyers by mr. jones legal team. mr. jones, did you know 12 days ago your attorneys sent me an entire digital copy of your entire cell phone? the parents lawyer asked mr. jones if the text messages were significant because mr. jones had claimed he had searched his phone for texts about the sandy hook cases and found none. let's go to dawn in new mexico. caller: i would like to make a suggestion for programming on c-span. in the past you've had programs that deal with the oil industry in their production of oil, but most of the oil produced in mexico and west texas is produced through fracking. in fracking they use 4 million gallons of water for each well and on a yearly basis they use 150 billion gallons of water. what i would like to suggest is you have hydrolysis do a discussion on the use of water in fracking, and also the water they use in fracking cannot be reused. right now at the university in las cruces is they have been doing studies on how they can reuse that water. i think that would be a worthy product. the se

this is not your show, mr. jones. this is a court, you have to tell the truth. ss stand. >> and i understand -- key moments centered around jones text messages. >> so yeah, so, part of the reason we are here is because jones never fully cooperated with the discovery in this case. and he in fact said that he didn't have any text messages related to sandy hook, which set up this moment for mark mark bankston, the attorney of jesse lewis, who lay this bombshell on the court. >> the attorneys messed up and sent me an entire digital copy of your entire cell phone, with every text message you've sent for the past two years, and when informed, did not take any steps to identify it i as privileged or protected in any way. as of two days ago, it's all clear into my possession. that is how i know you lied to me that you didn't have text messages about sandy hook. did you know that? >> see, i told you the truth. this is your perry mason moment. >> perry mason moment. he was caught in yet another lie. there was no explanation for that. and it was certainly was mind-blowing.

>> no. >> mr. jonesdid you know that 12 days ago -- 12 days ago -- your attorneys messed up and sent the entire digital copy of your entire cell phone with every text message you've sent for the past two years. and when informed did not take any steps to identify it as privileged or protected in any way. and as of two days ago, it fell free and clear into my possession. and how how i know you lied to me when you said you didn't have text messages about sandy hook. did you know that? >> see, i told you the truth. this is your perry mason moment. i gave them my phone. >> in discovery, you were asked, do you have sandy hook text messages on your phone, and you said no, correct? you said that under oath. >> if i was mistaken, i was mistaken. but you've got the messages right there. >> you know perjury, man? i just want to make sure before we go any further. you know what it is? >> i know what perjury is. i think laymen know what perjury is. we're going to ignore had the attorney of alex jones chewing on the

mr. joneses money to good use. mr. jones, on the other hand, or not sleep easy tonight, with punitive damages still to be decided and multiple additional defamation lawsuits pending. it is clear that mr. jones's time on the american stage is finally coming to an end. now the question is, is that true? and in a more broader discussion is well, about disinformation and if it is time to pay the piper, will that song stop and hold variety of ways? will it stop others? let's talk with our panel tonight. i have scott jennings, abby and david -- glad to see you all here. listen, first of all, it might surprise you, and i'm getting ready to tell you, there was a moment, apparently, where alex jones responded and called this a win for truth. i will play for you it in a little bit. this is where the spin is. what is your thoughts on this particular compensatory damages win? >> i am glad that the parents of the little boy are happy with this. if they're happy, i'm happy. i am glad that he can still be pun

i would imagine the doj would be very interested in the texts of mr. jones.eally fascinating how they ended up in the hands of the attorneys for the plaintiffs in this civil lawsuit. but put that aside for now. we're not going to figure that out right here on television. but the department of justice would absolutely want to contemporaneous writings of mr. jones. they could be evidence in a trial against him or others. the first question, the jury would want it, too. what he do or say in the moment is the best evidence. i would imagine the january 6th committee and department of justice through the fbi and its federal prosecutors are going to want to look at those texts in fact, i'm guessing they're going to have them very soon if they don't have them already. >> is there anything that makes those, i presume not inadmissible. the point that it was accidentally sent, that's just a gold mine for the prosecution, right? >> yeah, unless there's some order for the court, and i don't know of any, telling the plaintiff as attorneys they have to return them or destro

. >> mr. jones you said no. correct? you said that under oath, mr. jones, didn't you? >> i was mistaken. you have the text messages right there. >> you know what perjury is? >> nbc's benecol ins is following this one. >> his lawyers accidentally sent sandy hook lawyers who sat on it for ten days and revealed it in this dramatically important moment. >> right before closing arguments and that's when they revealed it and they let him lie for a few days, basically and that's what happened here. alex jones has been not handing things over to the discovery process. you have to hand over thing that have to do with the case if they ask for them, in this case it would be texts and emails and stuff like that, but as a massive mistake and it is unclear how this happened, alex jones' lawyers sent over every email and every text since for years to the sandy hook family's lawyers and making him go back and say this was a lie and it wasn't rue and you said this under oath and this is not true. there is a very imp

one of those remedies including sanctions and penalties, not only to mr. jonestentially the lawyers, right, there are significant things in terms of the bar, right, that you have to worry about, we have a license for a reason and that certainly could be yanked and there are consequences there too. so not good all the way around. >> okay, so consequences for this trial, we now know the january 6th committee interested in these text messages because they're examining jones' role in plotting or inciting the january 6th attack and to sort of add insult to injury for jones, his ex-wife tweeted she plans to subpoena those text messages. so, what is the path forward for jones after this revelation? >> yes, so that's in the broader context, right, and great point, jim. it is not only about this particular trial, and the damages issue that the jury is assessing as to whether and what he should pay economically to the family, it is in the broader context of what is on that phone, what communications not only related to sandy hook, but related to january 6th or other crimi

that's what you said, mr. jones, correct? >> i had several different phones at this number. but i did -- yeah. that's why you got it. >> the parents' attorney said jones lied about not having text messages about sandy hook. jones, who earlier called the shooting a hoax, conceded yesterday that the attack was 100% real. the jury is deliberating how much jones must pay in damages. >>> flags at the white house and u.s. capitol are flying at half staff in honor of indiana representative jackie wilorski who died in a car crash. authorities say the 58-year-old republican and two staffers were killed yesterday when another vehicle crossed the center line of an indiana highway and slammed into their suv. the driver of the other car was also killed. wilorski was first elected to congress in 2012 and represented the second district. house senate majority leader leader kevin mccarthy called her a dear friend who always puts others first. >>> president biden praised voters in kansas after they backed a measure supporting abortion rights. mr. biden also took action himself on the controve

mr. jones' infowars has been put into bankruptcy. es said why he did that. >> once you're in bankruptcy, it's all there in the court and the bonds for the appeals are half your net worth. well, that isn't going to be very, very much. we will be able to continue on with appeals and the rest of it for years, and we will be able to fight these kangaroo courts. >> this is not a drill. the victims are real. the reality is real. the pain is real, and whether that pain through a legal process will in some small measure be transferred to mr. jones to the tune of over $100 mill john why we're keeping an eye on this case and the precedent it may set to both punish and deter harmful lies and conspiracies in our society. i promise you we'll stay on the story. and we'll be right back. we'll s story. and we'll be right back. i grew up an athlete, i rode horses... i really do take care of myself. i try to stay in shape. that's really important, especially as you age. i noticed after kids that my body totally changed. i started noticing a little pudg

. >> mr. jones, did you know that 12 days ago -- 12 days ago -- your attorneys messed up and sent me an entire digital copy of your entire cellphone with every text message you've sent for the past two years and when informed did not take any steps to identify it as privileged or protected in any way, and as of two days ago it fell free and clear into my possession and that is how i know you lied to me when you said you didn't have text messages about sandy hook. did you know that? >> i told you the truth. this is your perry mason moment. i gave my phone -- >> mr. jones, you need to answer the question. >> did you know that this happened? >> no, i didn't know that this happened, but i told you i gave them the phone. >> what do you think of that moment, daniel? >> that is a perry mason moment. you don't get that very often in a trial where all of a sudden you've got a witness that he has no idea what's coming to him. but, look, this just goes, i think, to the broader issues. alex jones has a lot of i

. >> mr. jones in discovery, you were asked do you have text messages on your phone, and you said no. correct? you said that under oath. didn't you? >> i was mistaken. [ inaudible ] >> it was my goal when i started on this case to get this family a multimillion dollar verdict for their pain and suffering and i've done that. >> reporter: last week jones' company filed for bankruptcy. the lawyers brought into court showing at one point jones made up to $800,000 a day from ads. dina demetrius, cbs news. >>> federal charges have been filed against four current and former kentucky police officers in connection with the death of breonna taylor. the justice department announced the civil rights charges yesterday. they include obstruction, falsifying an affidavit to secure a search warrant, and excessive use of force. in 2020, louisville officers burst into taylor's apartment in a botched raid looking for drugs allegedly stashed by a former boyfriend. a different man who was dating taylor and in the apartme

card is obviously bonus cards of ukrainian railways, but, apparently, this is how kiev hinted to mr. jonesow the british can relate to this. and most importantly, what can we expect against the backdrop of such, well, let's say, directly belligerent not only statements, but also the actions of great britain and we will talk with the charge d'affaires of russia in the uk alexander gusarov is in touch with us alexander evgenievich hello good afternoon anastasia , please tell us when boris johnson makes such statements and when the candidates for the post of prime minister. well, those who will occupy this position in the future too. in general, frankly , they do not differ in their rhetoric regarding russia in your opinion. why do they do it? do they really seriously believe that such a solid financial injection can really change the geopolitical alignment. anastasia come on let's start with the fact that boris johnson has literally a few days left before the resignation of the prime minister of great britain. and already on september 5, the name of his successor or successor will be announc

mr. jones, in discovery, you were asked, do you have sandy hook text messages on your phone, and you said no, correct? h you said that under oath >> i was mistaken, but you've got the messages right there >>parents are seeking $150 million in damages from jones. >>> flags at the capitol are at half-staff this morning for congresswoman jackie walorski. the indiana republican was killed in a car crash north of indianapolis yesterday police say another vehicle crossed the center line and hit her car head on. two members of her staff were also killed. she had served in congress since 2013 the cause of the crash is still under investigation this morning. >>> turning now to eastern kentucky where the desperate search tfor survivors continues after catastrophic flooding killed at least 37 people. many homes and businesses in that area destroyed by those storms nbc spoke to residents still reeling from the disaster. >> reporter: in isom, kentucky, this grocery store has nothing to sell. >> it's just de

. >> mr. jonesiscovery, you were asked do you have sandy hook text messages on your phone and you said no, correct? you said that under oath, didn't you. >> if i was mistaken, i was mistaken. you've got the messages right there. >> reporter: you know. yes, i do. >> reporter: the 4.1 million awarded today is far less than the 150 million parents had originally sought but there could be more in the punitive phase which starts tomorrow. margaret. >> brennan: we will follow that. thank you. today, attorney general merrick garland announced federal charges against four officers over the 2020 drug raid that led to the death of breonna taylor. here's cbs's catherine herridge. >> breonna taylor should be alive today. >> reporter: attorney general merrick garland announced the civil rights charges in the botched raid that killed 26-year-old breonna taylor. the four current and former officers are accused of crimes that include organize, falsifying an affidavit to secure a search warrant and excessive use of

. >> mr. jonesre asked do you have sandy hook text messages on your phone, and you said no. correct? you said that under oath, didn't you? >> if i was mistaken, i was mistaken. but you've got the messages right there. >> you know -- >> yes, i do. >> reporter: now the 4.1 million awarded is far less than the 150 million parents had originally sought, but there could be more in the punitive phase which starts tomorrow. margaret? >> we will follow that. thank you. >>> schools and businesses in lauren, nebraska went on lockdown today after the bodies of four people were found in two burning homes just blocks apart. investigators say there was an explosion at one of the police suspect foul play, but they aren't sure if the incidents are connected. >>> tonight, new safety rates are out for midsized cars. the insurance institute for highway safety added more weight and velocity to the barrier that slams into the cars in those side crash tests. the only midsized car to score a good rating was the subaru out

and when mr. jonesommander, he went to his officers above him and he said this is terrible you address this can we handle this they assigned him to work with the same captain his next shift. no questions today >> reporter: mcmurray says jones has been pressured by some firefighters and elected officials not to file the complaint. >> thank you so much thank you. >> mcmurray would not answer my question about who those people are. >> i decided to speak up today because have i two children that maybe one day will aspire to be firefighters and i don't want them to have to experience what i experienced. i wouldn't want your kids to have to experience that. >> our thanks to berkeley for that report. in a statement, the rochester fire chief called the allegations serious and has launched an internal investigation. >>> michelle is tracking some dangerous heat for the week ahead, coming up next. >>> and the researchers ki atang deep dive into why sharks are swimming closer to our beaches uh, go spicy or go home,

. >> mr. jones, did you know that 12 days ago, 12 days ago your attorneys messed up and sent me an entire digital copy of your entire cell phone with every text message you've sent for the past two years and when informed did not take any steps to identify it as privileged or protected in any way, and as of two days ago it fell free and clear into my possession and that is how i know you lied to me when you said you didn't have text messages about sandy hook. did you know that? >> i told you the truth. this is your perry mason moment. i gave my phone -- >> reporter: jones had testified under oath that he personally searched his phone for sandy hook related text messages but didn't find any. >> you know what perjury is, right? i just want to make sure you know before we go any further. you said that under oath. >> yes. no, i did not lie. >> reporter: lawyers say the messages reveal jones' businesses brought in roughly $800,000 in one day from sales. jones claims that figure wasn't the norm, and he cl

overnight, this next punitive phase becomes the real name of the game, and one thing's for sure, mr. jonesg to sleep easy tonight after that verdict. >> this is your perry mason moment. >> reporter: before the jury announced the initial $4 million in damages, jones claimed any penalty half of that would spell the end to infowars, his radio and internet platform. >> any compensation above $2 million will sink us and -- >> reporter: jones' company declared bankruptcy in the middle of the case. the judge admonished jones for claiming he's broke and for telling the jury about the bankruptcy filing. >> you may not tell this jury that you are bankrupt. that is also not true. you must tell the truth while you testify. this is not your show. >> reporter: reports say infowars' revenue reached up to $70 million last year alone. to successfully declare bankruptcy jones will have to prove in court that he has no money left. jones responded to yesterday's verdict on his website by admitting he made a mistake and asked for more money from his followers. >>> a shortage of teachers across the country this

the messages were sent in error to the family's lawyers by mr. jones legal team. mr. s, did you know 12 days ago your attorneys sent me an entire digital copy of your entire cell phone? the parents lawyer asked mr. jones if the text messages were significant because mr. jones had claimed he had searched his phone for texts about the sandy hook cases and found none. let's go to dawn in new mexico. caller: i would like to make a suggestion for programming on c-span. in the past you've had programs that deal with the oil industry in their production of oil, but most of the oil produced in mexico and west texas is produced through fracking. in fracking they use 4 million gallons of water for each well and on a yearly basis they use 150 billion gallons of water. what i would like to suggest is you have hydrolysis do a discussion on the use of water in fracking, and also the water they use in fracking cannot be reused. right now at the university in las cruces is they have been doing studies on how they can reuse that water. i think that would be a worthy product. the second